Re: Swaying A Coder Away From Python

2006-05-07 Thread BJörn Lindqvist
On 5/4/06, Tim Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (and why do you > > seem to think that this matters, btw ?) > > I actually think it is complete twaddle, for the same reasons as you. I think this article has something to do with this article: http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html Maybe

Re: Swaying A Coder Away From Python

2006-05-06 Thread Ten
On Thursday 04 May 2006 12:57, Tim Williams wrote: > > (and why do you > > seem to think that this matters, btw ?) > > I actually think it is complete twaddle For my part, I have to agree with you on this one. In terms of any subjective to-and-fro'ing regarding the languages themselves I did s

Re: Swaying A Coder Away From Python

2006-05-05 Thread A.M. Kuchling
On Thu, 4 May 2006 13:08:52 +0200, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > who's this, and why does he think that sampling some random comments by > some random bloggers should mean anything to anyone ? (and why do you > seem to think that this matters, btw ?) Michal Wallace, the orig

Re: Swaying A Coder Away From Python

2006-05-04 Thread Terry Reedy
"Tim Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > idea how large its user-base is. As I said, the email was forwarded > to someone who thought I would be interested. Well, it got Fredrik to post the link to a really nice intro to Django, which I had not seen before

Re: Swaying A Coder Away From Python

2006-05-04 Thread Russ Salsbury
Adam Jones: """ User error, evidently. Sometimes the interface is more intelligent than its user, and every time this happens the interface is the one that gets the bad rap. """ Well that certainly explains my problems with Eclipse. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Swaying A Coder Away From Python

2006-05-04 Thread Stormcoder
I usually refer to it as "VILE!". As in what Vile thing do I have before me. Emacs all the way baby! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Swaying A Coder Away From Python

2006-05-04 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Rony Steelandt wrote: > What s wrong with VI ??? :) it's spelled "vim". -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Swaying A Coder Away From Python

2006-05-04 Thread Adam Jones
Rony Steelandt wrote: > > "One problem is that python tools suck," he wrote. Wallace compared the > various IDEs and other developer tools available to Microsoft's freely > available Visual Studio Express and called them "toys." > > > > What s wrong with VI ??? :) User error, evidently. Someti

Re: Swaying A Coder Away From Python

2006-05-04 Thread Rony Steelandt
"One problem is that python tools suck," he wrote. Wallace compared the various IDEs and other developer tools available to Microsoft's freely available Visual Studio Express and called them "toys." What s wrong with VI ??? :) R_ >> On 4 May 2006 05:24:40 -0700, BartlebyScrivener <[EMAIL P

Re: Swaying A Coder Away From Python

2006-05-04 Thread Sion Arrowsmith
>On 4 May 2006 05:24:40 -0700, BartlebyScrivener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm picking this up via clp on Google Groups. I can't tell what Mr. >> Lundh is referring to. The first line of his post is: "Tim Williams >> wrote" but there's nothing that comes before. Similarly, I'm reading this via

Re: Swaying A Coder Away From Python

2006-05-04 Thread Tim Williams
On 4 May 2006 05:24:40 -0700, BartlebyScrivener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm picking this up via clp on Google Groups. I can't tell what Mr. > Lundh is referring to. The first line of his post is: "Tim Williams > wrote" but there's nothing that comes before. I had seen the article on > Django o

Re: Swaying A Coder Away From Python

2006-05-04 Thread bruno at modulix
BartlebyScrivener wrote: > I'm picking this up via clp on Google Groups. I can't tell what Mr. > Lundh is referring to. The first line of his post is: "Tim Williams > wrote" but there's nothing that comes before. I had seen the article on > Django on Digg I think, but what is article Tim Williams i

Re: Swaying A Coder Away From Python

2006-05-04 Thread Tim Williams
On 04/05/06, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > nope, but if we were to post to the list every time some random blogger says > something about Python, we wouldn't have room for much other stuff. > It wasn't from a random blogger, it was from an email newsletter for this site: http://www.

Re: Swaying A Coder Away From Python

2006-05-04 Thread BartlebyScrivener
I'm picking this up via clp on Google Groups. I can't tell what Mr. Lundh is referring to. The first line of his post is: "Tim Williams wrote" but there's nothing that comes before. I had seen the article on Django on Digg I think, but what is article Tim Williams is referring to? Thanks, rick -

Re: Swaying A Coder Away From Python

2006-05-04 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Tim Williams wrote: > It was forwarded to me by someone who knows I use Python, and I > thought it might be of interest to a balanced list, especially as it > shows an external perspective of Python. Are we not allowed to post > negative things about Python anymore /.../ nope, but if we were

Re: Swaying A Coder Away From Python

2006-05-04 Thread Tim Williams
> (and why do you > seem to think that this matters, btw ?) I actually think it is complete twaddle, for the same reasons as you. It was forwarded to me by someone who knows I use Python, and I thought it might be of interest to a balanced list, especially as it shows an external perspectiv

Re: Swaying A Coder Away From Python

2006-05-04 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Tim Williams wrote: > By David A. Utter who's this, and why does he think that sampling some random comments by some random bloggers should mean anything to anyone ? (and why do you seem to think that this matters, btw ?) (and yes, I recognize the names of some of the bloggers he quotes. they'

Fw: Swaying A Coder Away From Python

2006-05-04 Thread Tim Williams
- Original Message - From: DevWebProUK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 10:14 PM Subject: Swaying A Coder Away From Python Swaying A Coder Away From Python By David A. Utter One programmer blogged about the powerful attraction he is feeling to C# programming, and