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2023-01-04 Thread Richard Damon
o detailed here about that difference between stdout and stderr > because in the wild (e.g. on StackOverflow) you often find "use logging > log levels" as a solution for that problem, which IMHO isn't one. > > Now the question: > From my research on the docs it seems

Re: No solution for "--verbose" (on stdout) output in Pythonds standard library?

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On 1/4/23, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: > > often seen "--verbose" switch in command line applications should > affect only the messages given to the users. This means messages on > "stdout". That is what this question is about. Is this additional context information such as help and definitions? If

Re: No solution for "--verbose" (on stdout) output in Pythonds standard library?

2023-01-04 Thread Weatherby,Gerard
ser.parse_args() logger = logging.getLogger(__name__) logger.setLevel(getattr(logging,args.loglevel)) From: Python-list on behalf of c.bu...@posteo.jp Date: Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 8:55 AM To: python-list@python.org Subject: No solution for "--verbose" (on stdout) output in Pythonds sta

Re: No solution for "--verbose" (on stdout) output in Pythonds standard library?

2023-01-04 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 at 00:54, wrote: > > Hello, > > first I have to say that in my current and fresh humble opinion the > often seen "--verbose" switch in command line applications should > affect only the messages given to the users. This means messages on > "stdout". That is what this question is

No solution for "--verbose" (on stdout) output in Pythonds standard library?

2023-01-04 Thread c.buhtz
This is not only my opinion but also part of the Python documentation: https://docs.python.org/3/howto/logging.html#when-to-use-logging I'm so detailed here about that difference between stdout and stderr because in the wild (e.g. on StackOverflow) you often find "use logging log levels&q

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Chris Angelico writes: > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 4:12 AM, Michael Torrie wrote: >> On 07/10/2017 11:05 AM, Paul Rubin wrote: >>> Michael Torrie writes: > can you get a newsreader to work with a https news service? No. A newsreader works with NNTP protocol. >>> >>> Traditionally NNTP o

Re: What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts?

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On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 4:12 AM, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 07/10/2017 11:05 AM, Paul Rubin wrote: >> Michael Torrie writes: can you get a newsreader to work with a https news service? >>> No. A newsreader works with NNTP protocol. >> >> Traditionally NNTP over SSL was done on port 563. So

Re: What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts?

2017-07-10 Thread Michael Torrie
On 07/10/2017 11:05 AM, Paul Rubin wrote: > Michael Torrie writes: >>> can you get a newsreader to work with a https news service? >> No. A newsreader works with NNTP protocol. > > Traditionally NNTP over SSL was done on port 563. Some feeds now also > provide it on 443 to get around client-sid

Re: What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts?

2017-07-10 Thread Paul Rubin
Michael Torrie writes: >> can you get a newsreader to work with a https news service? > No. A newsreader works with NNTP protocol. Traditionally NNTP over SSL was done on port 563. Some feeds now also provide it on 443 to get around client-side firewall hassles. -- https://mail.python.org/mail

Re: What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts?

2017-07-10 Thread pyotr filipivich
timetowal...@gmail.com on Sun, 9 Jul 2017 16:39:44 -0700 (PDT) typed in comp.lang.python the following: >I use https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.lang.python to look over >message posts. > >What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts? >Is is po

Re: What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts?

2017-07-10 Thread Jon Ribbens
On 2017-07-10, John Black wrote: > In article , > jon+use...@unequivocal.eu says... >> On 2017-07-10, John Black wrote: >> > While you're at it, throw these rules in and the group will appear very >> > clean and on topic. >> > >> > Subject contains "PEDOFILO" >> > Or >> > Subject contains "MAI"

Re: What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts?

2017-07-10 Thread John Black
In article , jon+use...@unequivocal.eu says... > > On 2017-07-10, John Black wrote: > > While you're at it, throw these rules in and the group will appear very > > clean and on topic. > > > > Subject contains "PEDOFILO" > > Or > > Subject contains "MAI" > > Or > > Subject contains "SEGRETO" > [

Re: What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts?

2017-07-10 Thread Michael Torrie
On 07/09/2017 09:29 PM, Chris Roy-Smith wrote: > can you get a newsreader to work with a https news service? No. A newsreader works with NNTP protocol. Some Usenet servers offer SSL support over port 443, but that's certainly not https. I've never heard of an https news service before. Unless yo

Re: What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts?

2017-07-10 Thread Jon Ribbens
On 2017-07-09, Michael Torrie wrote: > I'm sure Google could filter them if it chose. Behind the group, > though, is the Usenet newsgroup, which is unmoderated and decentralized, > and you can't filter there. ... unless the group were changed to be moderated, which it really ought to be, being a

Re: What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts?

2017-07-10 Thread Jon Ribbens
On 2017-07-10, John Black wrote: > While you're at it, throw these rules in and the group will appear very > clean and on topic. > > Subject contains "PEDOFILO" > Or > Subject contains "MAI" > Or > Subject contains "SEGRETO" [snip >100 lines of rules] Or just "subject does not contain any lower-

Re: What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts?

2017-07-10 Thread Larry Martell
On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 10:37 PM, wrote: > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 8:53:18 PM UTC-5, Steve D'Aprano wrote: >> On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 11:41 am, voteswithf...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 7:59:45 PM UTC-5, timetowalk wrote: >> >> >> I will need to read about filtering messages

Re: What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts?

2017-07-10 Thread Wanderer
gt; > over message posts. > > > > > > What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts? > > > Is is possible to have these posts filtered out? > > > > I'm sure Google could filter them if it chose. Behind the group, > > though,

Re: What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts?

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timetowal...@gmail.com writes: > What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts? > Is is possible to have these posts filtered out? As people have said, you can block them with a good news reader. But like you, I wonder why the heck they have camped out on this

Re: What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts?

2017-07-09 Thread Michael Torrie
On 07/09/2017 07:52 PM, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > This is also a mailing list where there is an administrator. > > The mailing list came first, and was mirrored to the Usenet group. Good point. So messages that get emailed to the mailing list are filtered before they get sent out to the Usenet grou

Re: What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts?

2017-07-09 Thread Chris Roy-Smith
> >> What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts? >> Is is possible to have these posts filtered out? > > Yes it very easy to filter these out with most usenet readers. Use one > that lets you setup rules for what gets automatically discarded. I

Re: What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts?

2017-07-09 Thread John Black
In article <477bde19-0653-4e41-a717-0efe90ac5...@googlegroups.com>, timetowal...@gmail.com says... > > I use https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.lang.python to look over > message posts. > > What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts

Re: What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts?

2017-07-09 Thread voteswithfeet
On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 8:53:18 PM UTC-5, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 11:41 am, voteswithf...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 7:59:45 PM UTC-5, timetowalk wrote: > > >> I will need to read about filtering messages locally. > >> Can the admin simply ban the use

Re: What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts?

2017-07-09 Thread Steve D'Aprano
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 11:41 am, voteswithf...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 7:59:45 PM UTC-5, timetowalk wrote: >> I will need to read about filtering messages locally. >> Can the admin simply ban the user? > > There is no admin, you idiot. This is Usenet! That's unnecessarily rud

Re: What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts?

2017-07-09 Thread voteswithfeet
gt; > over message posts. > > > > > > What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts? > > > Is is possible to have these posts filtered out? > > > > I'm sure Google could filter them if it chose. Behind the group, > > though,

Re: What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts?

2017-07-09 Thread Michael Torrie
On 07/09/2017 06:59 PM, timetowalk wrote: > I will need to read about filtering messages locally. > Can the admin simply ban the user? Usenet[1] doesn't have an admin. It's generally unmoderated and decentralized (no central server). Anyone can run a Usenet server and contribute messages to the g

Re: What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts?

2017-07-09 Thread timetowalk
On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 8:05:59 PM UTC-4, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 07/09/2017 05:39 PM, timetowal...@gmail.com wrote: > > I use https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.lang.python to look over > > message posts. > > > > What's with all of the Case Solut

Re: What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts?

2017-07-09 Thread Michael Torrie
On 07/09/2017 05:39 PM, timetowal...@gmail.com wrote: > I use https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.lang.python to look over > message posts. > > What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts? > Is is possible to have these posts filtered out? I

Re: What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts?

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> I use https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.lang.python to look over > message posts. > > What's with all of the Case Solution and Test Bank nonsense posts? > Is is possible to have these posts filtered out? You might be able to set up filters in Google Groups, but n

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Re: A Python solution for turning a web page into Pandas DataFrame table

2017-04-07 Thread Steve D'Aprano
On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 07:08 pm, David Shi wrote: > > > Is there a Python solution for turning a web page into Pandas DataFrame > table? Looking forward to hearing from you. What, *any* web page? Like this? http://www.math.ubc.ca/~cass/courses/m308-03b/projects-03b/skinner/

A Python solution for turning a web page into Pandas DataFrame table

2017-04-07 Thread David Shi via Python-list
Is there a Python solution for turning a web page into Pandas DataFrame table? Looking forward to hearing from you. Regards. David -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: You gotta love a 2-line python solution

2016-05-03 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 3 May 2016 01:56 pm, DFS wrote: > On 5/2/2016 11:27 PM, jf...@ms4.hinet.net wrote: >> DFS at 2016/5/3 9:12:24AM wrote: >>> try >>> >>> from urllib.request import urlretrieve >>> >>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21171718/urllib-urlretrieve-file-python-3-3 >>> >>> >>> I'm running pytho

Re: You gotta love a 2-line python solution

2016-05-03 Thread Stephen Hansen
On Mon, May 2, 2016, at 08:57 PM, jf...@ms4.hinet.net wrote: > Stephen Hansen at 2016/5/3 11:49:22AM wrote: > > On Mon, May 2, 2016, at 08:27 PM, jf...@ms4.hinet.net wrote: > > > But when I try to get this forum page, it does get a html file but can't > > > be viewed normally. > > > > What does th

Re: You gotta love a 2-line python solution

2016-05-02 Thread jfong
Stephen Hansen at 2016/5/3 11:49:22AM wrote: > On Mon, May 2, 2016, at 08:27 PM, jf...@ms4.hinet.net wrote: > > But when I try to get this forum page, it does get a html file but can't > > be viewed normally. > > What does that mean? > > -- > Stephen Hansen > m e @ i x o k a i . i o The page

Re: You gotta love a 2-line python solution

2016-05-02 Thread DFS
On 5/2/2016 11:27 PM, jf...@ms4.hinet.net wrote: DFS at 2016/5/3 9:12:24AM wrote: try from urllib.request import urlretrieve http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21171718/urllib-urlretrieve-file-python-3-3 I'm running python 2.7.11 (32-bit) Alright, it works...someway. I try to get a zip fi

Re: You gotta love a 2-line python solution

2016-05-02 Thread Stephen Hansen
On Mon, May 2, 2016, at 08:27 PM, jf...@ms4.hinet.net wrote: > But when I try to get this forum page, it does get a html file but can't > be viewed normally. What does that mean? -- Stephen Hansen m e @ i x o k a i . i o -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: You gotta love a 2-line python solution

2016-05-02 Thread jfong
DFS at 2016/5/3 9:12:24AM wrote: > try > > from urllib.request import urlretrieve > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21171718/urllib-urlretrieve-file-python-3-3 > > > I'm running python 2.7.11 (32-bit) Alright, it works...someway. I try to get a zip file. It works, the file can be unzippe

Re: You gotta love a 2-line python solution

2016-05-02 Thread DFS
On 5/2/2016 8:45 PM, jf...@ms4.hinet.net wrote: DFS at 2016/5/2 UTC+8 11:39:33AM wrote: To save a webpage to a file: - 1. import urllib 2. urllib.urlretrieve("http://econpy.pythonanywhere.com /ex/001.html","D:\file.html") -

Re: You gotta love a 2-line python solution

2016-05-02 Thread jfong
DFS at 2016/5/2 UTC+8 11:39:33AM wrote: > To save a webpage to a file: > - > 1. import urllib > 2. urllib.urlretrieve("http://econpy.pythonanywhere.com > /ex/001.html","D:\file.html") > - > > That's it! Why my system can

Re: You gotta love a 2-line python solution

2016-05-02 Thread Manolo Martínez
On 05/02/16 at 11:24am, Larry Martell wrote: > That reminds me of something I heard many years ago. > > Every non-trivial program can be simplified by at least one line of code. > Every non trivial program has at least one bug. > > Therefore every non-trivial program can be reduced to one line of

Re: You gotta love a 2-line python solution

2016-05-02 Thread Larry Martell
On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 11:15 AM, DFS wrote: > Of course. Taken to its extreme, I could eventually replace you with one > line of code :) That reminds me of something I heard many years ago. Every non-trivial program can be simplified by at least one line of code. Every non trivial program has a

Re: You gotta love a 2-line python solution

2016-05-02 Thread DFS
ose 10. Set fOut = Nothing 11. Set fso = Nothing 12. Set xmlHTTP = Nothing -- Technically, that VBS will run with just lines 3-9, but that's still 6 lines of code vs 2 for python. It seems Python provides a higher level solution compared with VBS.

Re: You gotta love a 2-line python solution

2016-05-02 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 2 May 2016 08:12 pm, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > For example, the urlretrieve() function above blocks. You can't use it > with the asyncio or select modules. The urlretrieve function is one of the oldest functions in the std library. It literally only exists because Guido was working on a co

Re: You gotta love a 2-line python solution

2016-05-02 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
BartC : > On 02/05/2016 04:39, DFS wrote: >> 2. urllib.urlretrieve("http://econpy.pythonanywhere.com >> /ex/001.html","D:\file.html") > [...] > > It seems Python provides a higher level solution compared with VBS. > Python presumably also has to

Re: You gotta love a 2-line python solution

2016-05-02 Thread BartC
ose 10. Set fOut = Nothing 11. Set fso = Nothing 12. Set xmlHTTP = Nothing -- Technically, that VBS will run with just lines 3-9, but that's still 6 lines of code vs 2 for python. It seems Python provides a higher level solution compared with VBS. Python presumably also has to do t

Re: You gotta love a 2-line python solution

2016-05-01 Thread Terry Reedy
On 5/2/2016 12:31 AM, Stephen Hansen wrote: On Sun, May 1, 2016, at 08:39 PM, DFS wrote: To save a webpage to a file: - 1. import urllib 2. urllib.urlretrieve("http://econpy.pythonanywhere.com /ex/001.html","D:\file.html")

Re: You gotta love a 2-line python solution

2016-05-01 Thread DFS
On 5/2/2016 1:37 AM, Stephen Hansen wrote: On Sun, May 1, 2016, at 10:23 PM, DFS wrote: Trying the rawstring thing (say it fast 3x): webpage = "http://econpy.pythonanywhere.com/ex/001.html"; webfile = "D:\\econpy001.html" urllib.urlretrieve(

Re: You gotta love a 2-line python solution

2016-05-01 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Monday 02 May 2016 15:21, Stephen Hansen wrote: > On Sun, May 1, 2016, at 10:08 PM, DFS wrote: >> On 5/2/2016 1:02 AM, Stephen Hansen wrote: >> >> I actually use "D:\\file.html" in my code. >> > >> > Or you can do that. But the whole point of raw strings is not having to >> > escape slashes :)

Re: You gotta love a 2-line python solution

2016-05-01 Thread Stephen Hansen
On Sun, May 1, 2016, at 10:23 PM, DFS wrote: > Trying the rawstring thing (say it fast 3x): > > webpage = "http://econpy.pythonanywhere.com/ex/001.html"; > > > webfile = "D:\\econpy001.html" > urllib.urlretrieve(webpage,webfile) WORKS > ---

Re: You gotta love a 2-line python solution

2016-05-01 Thread DFS
On 5/2/2016 1:02 AM, Stephen Hansen wrote: On Sun, May 1, 2016, at 09:51 PM, DFS wrote: On 5/2/2016 12:31 AM, Stephen Hansen wrote: On Sun, May 1, 2016, at 08:39 PM, DFS wrote: To save a webpage to a file: - 1. import urllib 2. urllib.urlretrieve("http://eco

Re: You gotta love a 2-line python solution

2016-05-01 Thread Stephen Hansen
On Sun, May 1, 2016, at 10:08 PM, DFS wrote: > On 5/2/2016 1:02 AM, Stephen Hansen wrote: > >> I actually use "D:\\file.html" in my code. > > > > Or you can do that. But the whole point of raw strings is not having to > > escape slashes :) > > > Nice. Where/how else is 'r' used? Raw strings are

Re: You gotta love a 2-line python solution

2016-05-01 Thread DFS
On 5/2/2016 1:02 AM, Stephen Hansen wrote: On Sun, May 1, 2016, at 09:51 PM, DFS wrote: On 5/2/2016 12:31 AM, Stephen Hansen wrote: On Sun, May 1, 2016, at 08:39 PM, DFS wrote: To save a webpage to a file: - 1. import urllib 2. urllib.urlretrieve("http://eco

Re: You gotta love a 2-line python solution

2016-05-01 Thread Stephen Hansen
On Sun, May 1, 2016, at 09:51 PM, DFS wrote: > On 5/2/2016 12:31 AM, Stephen Hansen wrote: > > On Sun, May 1, 2016, at 08:39 PM, DFS wrote: > >> To save a webpage to a file: > >> - > >> 1. import urllib > >> 2. urllib.urlretrieve("http://econpy.pythonanywhere.com

Re: You gotta love a 2-line python solution

2016-05-01 Thread DFS
On 5/2/2016 12:31 AM, Stephen Hansen wrote: On Sun, May 1, 2016, at 08:39 PM, DFS wrote: To save a webpage to a file: - 1. import urllib 2. urllib.urlretrieve("http://econpy.pythonanywhere.com /ex/001.html","D:\file.html")

Re: You gotta love a 2-line python solution

2016-05-01 Thread Stephen Hansen
On Sun, May 1, 2016, at 08:39 PM, DFS wrote: > To save a webpage to a file: > - > 1. import urllib > 2. urllib.urlretrieve("http://econpy.pythonanywhere.com > /ex/001.html","D:\file.html") > - Note, for paths on windows y

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