Re: python admin abuse complaint

2010-02-08 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:57:13 +0100, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: > having a single c.l.p clown is tolerable if it makes him happy. Why should we care about his happiness if it comes at the expense of the happiness of hundreds of other people? I mean, if he decided that his happiness was best satisf

Re: python admin abuse complaint

2010-02-08 Thread John Bokma
Daniel Fetchinson writes: > One more thing: Yeah, one more thing: since you are all for a better community why not reply without quoting the entire message? Just quote enough to provide some decent context. Xah is just a spammer. It amazes me how often people want to step in the role of Xah's

Re: python admin abuse complaint

2010-02-07 Thread Aahz
In article , Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: > >So guys, just ignore him if you don't like him. Mailers & news readers >have plenty of feature to make it happen. Unfortunately, unless you have a stable group of people with self-control, that doesn't work. Idiots like Xah will always get responses

Re: python admin abuse complaint

2010-02-07 Thread MRAB
Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: Steve Holden wrote: Shashwat Anand wrote: LOL pow(funny, sys.maxint) Yes, funny, but it overlooks the point that Xah is a nuisance to multiple communities, not just to ours, and quite often concurrently. I'm all in favor of tolerance, but I'd like to see s

Re: python admin abuse complaint

2010-02-07 Thread Jean-Michel Pichavant
Steve Holden wrote: Shashwat Anand wrote: LOL pow(funny, sys.maxint) Yes, funny, but it overlooks the point that Xah is a nuisance to multiple communities, not just to ours, and quite often concurrently. I'm all in favor of tolerance, but I'd like to see some evidence that rehabilitat

Re: python admin abuse complaint

2010-02-07 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 15:11:41 +0100 Daniel Fetchinson wrote: > I'd say let's designate a post Python Community Jester, or PCJ for > short, let's name Xah Lee the PCJ and make it clear that he can engage > in his activities on c.l.p and #python as he wishes without > retribution and fear, and nobody

Re: python admin abuse complaint

2010-02-07 Thread Daniel Fetchinson
>>> LOL >>> pow(funny, sys.maxint) >>> >> Yes, funny, but it overlooks the point that Xah is a nuisance to >> multiple communities, not just to ours, and quite often concurrently. > > I don't think we need to worry about other communities or every > internet related problem. The only thing we need

Re: python admin abuse complaint

2010-02-07 Thread Daniel Fetchinson
>> LOL >> pow(funny, sys.maxint) >> > Yes, funny, but it overlooks the point that Xah is a nuisance to > multiple communities, not just to ours, and quite often concurrently. I don't think we need to worry about other communities or every internet related problem. The only thing we need to make su

Re: python admin abuse complaint

2010-02-07 Thread Steve Holden
Shashwat Anand wrote: > LOL > pow(funny, sys.maxint) > Yes, funny, but it overlooks the point that Xah is a nuisance to multiple communities, not just to ours, and quite often concurrently. I'm all in favor of tolerance, but I'd like to see some evidence that rehabilitation is practical before th

Re: python admin abuse complaint

2010-02-07 Thread Daniel Fetchinson
> LOL assert funny > 1 > pow(funny, sys.maxint) >> >>> This is a short complaint on admin abuse on #python irc channel on >> >>> freenode.net. >> >> >> >> Let's see, you are complaining about getting banned from #python by >> >> CROSS-POSTING between c.l.py and comp.lang.lisp. From my POV, tha

Re: python admin abuse complaint

2010-02-07 Thread Shashwat Anand
LOL pow(funny, sys.maxint) On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: > >>> This is a short complaint on admin abuse on #python irc channel on > >>> freenode.net. > >> > >> Let's see, you are complaining about getting banned from #python by > >> CROSS-POSTING between c.l.py and com

Re: python admin abuse complaint

2010-02-07 Thread Daniel Fetchinson
>>> This is a short complaint on admin abuse on #python irc channel on >>> freenode.net. >> >> Let's see, you are complaining about getting banned from #python by >> CROSS-POSTING between c.l.py and comp.lang.lisp. From my POV, that's >> grounds for extending the IRC ban permanently. > > It certai

Re: python admin abuse complaint

2010-02-07 Thread Steve Holden
Aahz wrote: > In article > <0c535d15-967d-4909-a9bb-b59708181...@l24g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, > Xah Lee wrote: >> This is a short complaint on admin abuse on #python irc channel on >> freenode.net. > > Let's see, you are complaining about getting banned from #python by > CROSS-POSTING between

Re: python admin abuse complaint

2010-02-06 Thread Aahz
In article <0c535d15-967d-4909-a9bb-b59708181...@l24g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, Xah Lee wrote: > >This is a short complaint on admin abuse on #python irc channel on >freenode.net. Let's see, you are complaining about getting banned from #python by CROSS-POSTING between c.l.py and comp.lang.lisp.

Re: python admin abuse complaint

2010-02-06 Thread Ron Adam
Xah Lee wrote: For anyone reading this thread and interested in my opinions, i have written many essays related to this and netiquette. Many of which detail other similar incidences that i personally experienced, such as freenode's irc ban in #emacs channel. If you are interested, they can be

Re: python admin abuse complaint

2010-02-04 Thread Steve Holden
Stephen Thorne wrote: > On Feb 5, 9:02 am, Steve Holden wrote: >>> • The list of ban'd person's names, the reason for banning, and the >>> name of admin who ban'd them, should be public. (irc already provides >>> means for this that allows admins to annotate in the ban list.) In >>> particular, if

Re: python admin abuse complaint

2010-02-04 Thread Stephen Thorne
On Feb 5, 9:02 am, Steve Holden wrote: > > • The list of ban'd person's names, the reason for banning, and the > > name of admin who ban'd them, should be public. (irc already provides > > means for this that allows admins to annotate in the ban list.) In > > particular, if you are going to ban so

Re: python admin abuse complaint

2010-02-04 Thread Stephen Thorne
On Feb 5, 8:26 am, Xah Lee wrote: > I appreciate that you taking this more seriously than normal > newsgroups postings. In fact, for this complaint, the response you > made is all i asked for. > > I am taking this as seriously as all the articles you have posted to usenet. Stephen. -- http://m

Re: python admin abuse complaint

2010-02-04 Thread Steve Holden
Xah Lee wrote: > 2010-02-04 > > Hi Steve, > > thank you for the reply. > > I appreciate that you taking this more seriously than normal > newsgroups postings. In fact, for this complaint, the response you > made is all i asked for. > OK, in that case I won't trouble anyone else about it. > I h

Re: python admin abuse complaint

2010-02-04 Thread Xah Lee
2010-02-04 Hi Steve, thank you for the reply. I appreciate that you taking this more seriously than normal newsgroups postings. In fact, for this complaint, the response you made is all i asked for. I have a lot things to say about the various political struggle that one sees everyday in just a

Re: python admin abuse complaint

2010-02-03 Thread Stephen Thorne
On Feb 3, 6:40 am, Xah Lee wrote: > This is a short complaint on adminabuseon #pythonircchannel on > freenode.net. > > Here's a log: > > 2010-02-02 > > (12:11:57 PM) The topic for #pythonis: NO LOL |http://pound-python.org/ > | It's too early to usePython3.x | Pasting > 3 lines? > Pastebin:http:/

Re: python admin abuse complaint

2010-02-03 Thread John Bokma
Xah Lee writes: > (12:12:30 PM) You have been kicked by dash: (No.) Oh noes, someone is harrassing poor Xah the Usenet spammer. You have been and still are a major pain in the ass to a lot of Usenet users, and still surprised that you're not making friends. I mean, what did you want to do on IRC

Re: python admin abuse complaint

2010-02-02 Thread Steve Holden, Chairman, PSF
Xah Lee wrote: > This is a short complaint on admin abuse on #python irc channel on > freenode.net. > > Here's a log: > > 2010-02-02 > > (12:11:57 PM) The topic for #python is: NO LOL | http://pound-python.org/ > | It's too early to use Python 3.x | Pasting > 3 lines? Pastebin: > http://paste.po

Re: python admin abuse complaint

2010-02-02 Thread Jonathan Gardner
On Feb 2, 12:40 pm, Xah Lee wrote: > > (12:12:16 PM) xahlee: is hash={} and hash.clean() identical? > I think you mean hash.clear() instead of hash.clean() The answer is that "hash = {}" will create a new dict and assign it to "hash", while "hash.clear()" simply guts the dict that "hash" is poin