Chris said :
"It does look cool on paper. "
Sure, I'll buy that Bjarne designed something intellectually pretty that just
doesn't flow very well in practice. Most of his C++ worked very well both in
theory and practice, so I can forgive him one nerdy overreach, if that's what
it was.
Python i
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Peter Cacioppi
wrote:
> In general, I liked all the C++ additions a lot. I really liked the STL. But
> I don't know what Bjarne was thinking with the streams.
It does look cool on paper. You can "see" the flow of data.
Everything's type-safe - unlike C's scanf fa
Chris said :
" I almost exclusively use C-style formatted strings, even sometimes going to
the extent of using fopen() just so I can use fprintf() rather than fstream.
Also, I often create a class something like this: "
Ditto all that, to include the special class I cooked up to handle printf
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Peter Cacioppi wrote:
> I always thought printf was sort of crappy.
>
> I thought the C++ << business even worse.
Oh, you'll get no argument from me about the std::*stream types! When
I write C++ code, I almost exclusively use C-style formatted strings,
even someti
Mark said :
"so I can get an extremely large pair of pliers with which I can extract my
tongue from my cheek :) "
OK fair enough, and my post was in the same spirit.
Chris said :
"Maybe, but it's supported by so many languages that it is of value. "
Sure, I suppose someone should make a modul
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> I wondered if the idea of deprecating printf style formatting might also
> come up again. It was discussed in some depth here
> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2012-February/116789.html
I don't see any reason for it to go. Anyon
On 01/11/2013 09:17, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
I'm heading into town in maybe an hour. I'll stop here
http://www.toolbankexpress.com/shop/castle/ so I can get an extremely large
pair of pliers with which I can extract my tongue from my cheek :)
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> I'm heading into town in maybe an hour. I'll stop here
> http://www.toolbankexpress.com/shop/castle/ so I can get an extremely large
> pair of pliers with which I can extract my tongue from my cheek :)
I think you may have a bit of trouble.
On 01/11/2013 07:11, Peter Cacioppi wrote:
Mark said :
"Do I have to raise a PEP to get this stupid language changed so that it
dynamically recognises what I want it to do and acts accordingly?"
The printf syntax in C isn't any wonderful thing, and there is no obligation to
provide some Python
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Peter Cacioppi wrote:
> The printf syntax in C isn't any wonderful thing, and there is no obligation
> to provide some Python version of it.
Maybe, but it's supported by so many languages that it is of value.
Though Python's use of the % operator does lead to edge
Mark said :
"Do I have to raise a PEP to get this stupid language changed so that it
dynamically recognises what I want it to do and acts accordingly?"
The printf syntax in C isn't any wonderful thing, and there is no obligation to
provide some Python version of it.
I have to say, there were
On 10/31/2013 08:56 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 01/11/2013 02:41, Michael Torrie wrote:
>> On 10/31/2013 07:45 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>>> Quite often I type this
>>>
>>> print('Total of accounts %.2f', total)
>>>
>>> when I meant to type this
>>>
>>> print('Total of accounts %.2f' % total)
>>>
On 01/11/2013 02:41, Michael Torrie wrote:
On 10/31/2013 07:45 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
Quite often I type this
print('Total of accounts %.2f', total)
when I meant to type this
print('Total of accounts %.2f' % total)
Do I have to raise a PEP to get this stupid language changed so that it
dyn
On 10/31/2013 07:45 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> Quite often I type this
>
> print('Total of accounts %.2f', total)
>
> when I meant to type this
>
> print('Total of accounts %.2f' % total)
>
> Do I have to raise a PEP to get this stupid language changed so that it
> dynamically recognises what
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> Quite often I type this
>
> print('Total of accounts %.2f', total)
>
> when I meant to type this
>
> print('Total of accounts %.2f' % total)
>
> Do I have to raise a PEP to get this stupid language changed so that it
> dynamically recognises
On 01/11/2013 01:45, Mark Lawrence wrote:
Quite often I type this
print('Total of accounts %.2f', total)
when I meant to type this
print('Total of accounts %.2f' % total)
Do I have to raise a PEP to get this stupid language changed so that it
dynamically recognises what I want it to do and ac
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> orig_print = print
> def print(fmt, *args, **kwargs):
> orig_print(fmt%args, **kwargs)
PS. To be courteous to subsequent developers, you might want to
instead leave print as it is, and create your own printf:
def printf(fmt, *args, **k
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