Re: Python programming language vulnerabilities

2017-09-11 Thread Stephen Michell
CORRECTION. My sincere apologies to anyone that tried the link that I posted. The actual link is www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg23 follow the link to documents, or go directly there via www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg23/docs/documents.html I was informed that there are some broken links to documen

Re: Python programming language vulnerabilities

2017-09-10 Thread Skip Montanaro
These links work: * http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG23/docs/ISO-IECJTC1-SC22-WG23_N0702-tr24772-4-draft-python-before-mtg-48-2017-03-10.pdf * http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG23/docs/ISO-IECJTC1-SC22-WG23_N0702-tr24772-4-draft-python-before-mtg-48-2017-03-10.docx Skip On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 4

Re: Python programming language vulnerabilities

2017-09-10 Thread Skip Montanaro
That link's not working for me, even after changing the double slash to a single slash. Skip On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Stephen Michell wrote: > My apologies. I maintain that website. > > There should have been no broken links. I will fix that. > > The previous version of TR 24772 had anne

Re: Python programming language vulnerabilities

2017-09-10 Thread Stephen Michell
My apologies. I maintain that website. There should have been no broken links. I will fix that. The previous version of TR 24772 had annexes for language-specific material. We have split those out, so the main document (Tr 24772-1) only has language independent material. The last Python documen

Re: Python programming language vulnerabilities

2017-09-10 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
08.09.17 20:34, Stephen Michell пише: I chair ISO/IEC/JTC1/SC22/WG23 Programming Language Vulnerabilities. We publish an international technical report, ISO IEC TR 24772 Guide to avoiding programming language vulnerabilities through language selection use. Annex D in this document addresses vu

Re: Python programming classes for children

2015-07-01 Thread Great Avenger Singh
On Thursday, 2 July 2015 07:20:03 UTC+5:30, Great Avenger Singh wrote: > On Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:33:06 UTC+5:30, beli...@aol.com wrote: > > > Are there other groups offering Python courses for pre-college students? > > Some months ago I took one course from Edx, They provide very good mat

Re: Python programming classes for children

2015-07-01 Thread Great Avenger Singh
On Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:33:06 UTC+5:30, beli...@aol.com wrote: > Are there other groups offering Python courses for pre-college students? Some months ago I took one course from Edx, They provide very good material and every each topic assignment is given, You can try following: https://

Re: Python programming classes for children

2015-07-01 Thread John Ladasky
On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 6:03:06 AM UTC-7, beli...@aol.com wrote: > My 11yo son is taking the online class "Intermediate Programming with Python" > http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/school/course/catalog/python2 offered by > the Art of Problem Solving company (AoPS). Classes meet for 1.5 ho

Re: Python programming classes for children

2015-07-01 Thread Tim Golden
On 01/07/2015 14:02, beliavsky--- via Python-list wrote: My 11yo son is taking the online class "Intermediate Programming with Python" http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/school/course/catalog/python2 offered by the Art of Problem Solving company (AoPS). Classes meet for 1.5 hours a week for 12 we

Re: Python programming

2014-08-27 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 27/08/2014 16:09, MRAB wrote: On 2014-08-27 15:36, Neil D. Cerutti wrote: On 8/27/2014 9:40 AM, Jake wrote: Jake I disagree! True. Too confusing. Should be Bruce. How about Dolores after the first word of the Hardy book that was never published? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not w

Re: Python programming

2014-08-27 Thread mm0fmf
On 27/08/2014 16:41, Grant Edwards wrote: Well, it's spelled "Jake", but it's pronounced "throat warbler mangrove" You're a very silly man and I'm not going to interview you. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python programming

2014-08-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-08-27, MRAB wrote: > On 2014-08-27 15:36, Neil D. Cerutti wrote: >> On 8/27/2014 9:40 AM, Jake wrote: >>> Jake >> >> I disagree! >> > True. Too confusing. Should be Bruce. Well, it's spelled "Jake", but it's pronounced "throat warbler mangrove" -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edw

Re: Python programming

2014-08-27 Thread MRAB
On 2014-08-27 15:36, Neil D. Cerutti wrote: On 8/27/2014 9:40 AM, Jake wrote: Jake I disagree! True. Too confusing. Should be Bruce. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python programming

2014-08-27 Thread Neil D. Cerutti
On 8/27/2014 9:40 AM, Jake wrote: Jake I disagree! -- Neil Cerutti -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python programming

2014-03-08 Thread John Ladasky
On Friday, March 7, 2014 4:38:54 PM UTC-8, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Fri, 7 Mar 2014 10:03:35 -0800 (PST), John Ladasky > declaimed the following: > >> More than once, I have queried Google with the phrase "Why isn't FORTRAN >> dead yet?" For some reason, it lives on. I can't say that I u

Re: Python programming

2014-03-07 Thread William Ray Wing
On Mar 7, 2014, at 1:03 PM, John Ladasky wrote: > > As for FORTRAN? This week, I actually downloaded an application which > required a FORTRAN compiler. This is the only FORTRAN application I've ever > needed. It's not old code, the first revision came out about 10 years ago. > More than

Re: Python programming

2014-03-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 March 2014 12:29:38 Grant Edwards did opine: > On 2014-03-07, William Ray Wing wrote: > > On Mar 6, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Roy Smith wrote: > >>> I spotted a device on the table of the company calibration office... > >>> > >>> As I recall, it was a 100A capable resistor... 0.10 OHM. > >

Re: Python programming

2014-03-07 Thread John Ladasky
On Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:30:39 AM UTC-8, larry@gmail.com wrote: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:56 PM, William Ray Wing wrote: > > > OK, and how many of you remember the original version of the > > tongue-in-cheek essay "Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal" from the back > > page of Dat

Re: Python programming

2014-03-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-03-07, William Ray Wing wrote: > On Mar 6, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Roy Smith wrote: >>> I spotted a device on the table of the company calibration office... >>> >>> As I recall, it was a 100A capable resistor... 0.10 OHM. >>> >>> No idea what it was meant for; big binding posts at one end, a

Re: Python programming

2014-03-07 Thread Larry Hudson
I spotted a device on the table of the company calibration office... As I recall, it was a 100A capable resistor... 0.10 OHM. No idea what it was meant for; big binding posts at one end, and a slab of sheet steel in a "W" shape (smooth curves, not sharp bends). Exter

Re: Python programming

2014-03-06 Thread William Ray Wing
On Mar 6, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > >> On 06 Mar 2014 02:51:54 GMT, alb...@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der >> Horst) declaimed the following: >> >>> In article , >>> Roy Smith wrote: In article , Grant Edwards wrote: >

Re: Python programming

2014-03-06 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On 06 Mar 2014 02:51:54 GMT, alb...@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der > Horst) declaimed the following: > > >In article , > >Roy Smith wrote: > >>In article , > >> Grant Edwards wrote: > >> > >>> On 2014-02-13, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > >>> > >>> >

Re: Python programming

2014-03-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-03-06, Tim Chase wrote: > On 2014-03-06 06:17, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 20:19:56 -0800, Beowulf wrote: >> >> > Once you master one language it is easy to understand other. >> >> Depends on the languages. Learning Forth doesn't make it easier to >> learn Perl. Learn

Re: Python programming

2014-03-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-03-06, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Dan Sommers wrote: > >> On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 20:19:56 -0800, Beowulf wrote: >> >> > Once you master one language it is easy to understand other ... >> >> Once you master one language, the next one is hard. After that, they >> get easier. > > And

Re: Python programming

2014-03-06 Thread Tim Chase
On 2014-03-06 06:17, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 20:19:56 -0800, Beowulf wrote: > > > Once you master one language it is easy to understand other. > > Depends on the languages. Learning Forth doesn't make it easier to > learn Perl. Learning Pascal doesn't make Smalltalk easier.

Re: Python programming

2014-03-05 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 20:19:56 -0800, Beowulf wrote: > Once you master one language it is easy to understand other. Depends on the languages. Learning Forth doesn't make it easier to learn Perl. Learning Pascal doesn't make Smalltalk easier. -- Steven -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listi

Re: Python programming

2014-03-05 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Dan Sommers wrote: > On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 20:19:56 -0800, Beowulf wrote: > > > Once you master one language it is easy to understand other ... > > Once you master one language, the next one is hard. After that, they > get easier. And then you get to PHP. -- https://mail.python.o

Re: Python programming

2014-03-05 Thread Dan Sommers
On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 20:19:56 -0800, Beowulf wrote: > Once you master one language it is easy to understand other ... Once you master one language, the next one is hard. After that, they get easier. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python programming

2014-03-05 Thread Beowulf
Once you master one language it is easy to understand other. I mastered C in my younger years, writing signal handlers and thread on Solaris and AIX. It it not the syntax, that comes easy, it is building the correct algorithm that matters. The best way to learn is make some thing useful that y

Re: Python programming

2014-03-05 Thread 88888 Dihedral
On Thursday, February 13, 2014 11:30:27 PM UTC+8, Neil Cerutti wrote: > On 2014-02-12, Tim Delaney wrote: > > > OK - it's degenerated into one of these threads - I'm going to > > > participate. > > > > Me, too! > > > > I wrote lots of programs, strictly for fun, on every personal > > comp

Re: Python programming

2014-03-05 Thread Albert van der Horst
In article , Roy Smith wrote: >In article , > Grant Edwards wrote: > >> On 2014-02-13, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: >> >> >An S-100 wire-wrap board. >> >> Yup, been there done that! > >Never did S-100, but I did do a custom Unibus card (wirewrap). > >You know you're working with a Real Computer

Re: Python programming

2014-02-14 Thread ngangsia akumbo
wow wow Thanks for the contutions Thanks guys, many more are welcome -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python programming

2014-02-13 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2014-02-12, Tim Delaney wrote: > OK - it's degenerated into one of these threads - I'm going to > participate. Me, too! I wrote lots of programs, strictly for fun, on every personal computer I got my hands on. Toward the end of the 80's personal computer's stopped coming equipped with program

Re: Python programming

2014-02-13 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-02-13, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Roy Smith wrote: >> You know you're working with a Real Computer (tm) when the +5V power >> supply can deliver as much current as an arc welder. > > That'd run a reasonable number of devices. That depends. Back in the d

Re: Python programming

2014-02-13 Thread Larry Martell
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:56 PM, William Ray Wing wrote: > OK, and how many of you remember the original version of the tongue-in-cheek > essay "Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal" from the back page of Datamation? I do remember it. http://www.webcitation.org/659yh1oSh -- https://mail.python.o

Re: Python programming

2014-02-12 Thread Dan Sommers
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 22:56:56 -0500, William Ray Wing wrote: > OK, and how many of you remember the original version of the > tongue-in-cheek essay "Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal" from the > back page of Datamation? And the April issue of Compubyte (or something like that) with a cover showing

Re: Python programming

2014-02-12 Thread William Ray Wing
On Feb 12, 2014, at 10:04 PM, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Grant Edwards wrote: > >> On 2014-02-13, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: >> >>> An S-100 wire-wrap board. >> >> Yup, been there done that! > > Never did S-100, but I did do a custom Unibus card (wirewrap). > > You know you're wor

Re: Python programming

2014-02-12 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Roy Smith wrote: > You know you're working with a Real Computer (tm) when the +5V power > supply can deliver as much current as an arc welder. That'd run a reasonable number of devices. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python programming

2014-02-12 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2014-02-13, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > > > An S-100 wire-wrap board. > > Yup, been there done that! Never did S-100, but I did do a custom Unibus card (wirewrap). You know you're working with a Real Computer (tm) when the +5V power supply can deli

Re: Python programming

2014-02-12 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-02-13, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > An S-100 wire-wrap board. Yup, been there done that! I had a second-hand, off-the-shelf S-100 Z80 CPU board, a second-hand S-100 memory board with 4KB of DRAM (eight 4Kx1 chips) and 2KB of ROM (eight 256x8 Intel 1702A EPROMS), a home made backplac

Re: Python programming

2014-02-12 Thread Tim Delaney
On 13 February 2014 08:02, Tim Delaney wrote: > I received a copy of "The Beginners Computer Handbook: Understanding & > programming the micro" (Judy Tatchell and Bill Bennet, edited by Lisa Watts > - ISBN 0860206947) > I should have noted that the examples were all BASIC (with details for how t

Re: Python programming

2014-02-12 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Tim Delaney wrote: > I received a copy of "The Beginners Computer Handbook: Understanding & > programming the micro" (Judy Tatchell and Bill Bennet, edited by Lisa Watts > - ISBN 0860206947) for Christmas of 1985 (I think - I would have been 11 > years old). As you

Re: Python programming

2014-02-12 Thread Tim Delaney
On 13 February 2014 00:55, Larry Martell wrote: > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 7:21 PM, ngangsia akumbo > wrote: > > Please i have a silly question to ask. > > > > How long did it take you to learn how to write programs? > > My entire life. > > I started in 1975 when I was 16 - taught myself BASIC an

Re: Python programming

2014-02-12 Thread Larry Martell
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Larry Martell wrote: > >> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 7:21 PM, ngangsia akumbo wrote: >> > Please i have a silly question to ask. >> > >> > How long did it take you to learn how to write programs? >> >> My entire life. >> >> I start

Re: Python programming

2014-02-12 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Larry Martell wrote: > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 7:21 PM, ngangsia akumbo wrote: > > Please i have a silly question to ask. > > > > How long did it take you to learn how to write programs? > > My entire life. > > I started in 1975 when I was 16 - taught myself BASIC and wrote a ver

Re: Python programming

2014-02-12 Thread Larry Martell
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 7:21 PM, ngangsia akumbo wrote: > Please i have a silly question to ask. > > How long did it take you to learn how to write programs? My entire life. I started in 1975 when I was 16 - taught myself BASIC and wrote a very crude downhill skiing game. I had dial in access to

Re: Python programming

2014-02-12 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 12/02/2014 04:14, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 11 February 2014 23:13:33 Roy Smith did opine: In article , ngangsia akumbo wrote: Please i have a silly question to ask. How long did it take you to learn how to write programs? I've been working on it for 40 years. I'll let you know

Re: Python programming

2014-02-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 11 February 2014 23:13:33 Roy Smith did opine: > In article , > > ngangsia akumbo wrote: > > Please i have a silly question to ask. > > > > How long did it take you to learn how to write programs? > > I've been working on it for 40 years. I'll let you know when I get > there. I s

Re: Python programming

2014-02-12 Thread Ben Abramowitz
I started learning python 3.3 for 13 days (including today) ago, using this book, with no programming experience: http://openbookproject.net/thinkcs/python/english3e/index.html the fact that the author uses the python turtle to teach readers object orientated programming, has been ALL the differen

Re: Python programming

2014-02-11 Thread Ben Finney
ngangsia akumbo writes: > Please i have a silly question to ask. > > How long did it take you to learn how to write programs? Please clarify what you mean by “how to write programs”. I could write programs perhaps ten minutes after beginning to learn; but learning how to write programs *well* is

Re: Python programming

2014-02-11 Thread Asdrúbal Iván Suárez
2014-02-11 20:24 GMT-04:30 Mark Lawrence : > > > > > To become a master thinker take a degree in philosophy. > > On the other hand to master tkinter search for a tutorial that you can > follow. Or if you're feeling brave help out with tkinter or IDLE issues on > the bug tracker at bugs.python.org

Re: Python programming

2014-02-11 Thread Asdrúbal Iván Suárez
Hello! Well, I got the knowledge at college, it took me a year to know the basics (But I guess it can take less if you work hard on it). I began with C, then C++ and right now I'm with Python (I use PHP too). That said, there are some interesting resources out there that you can use to learn. Codea

Re: Python programming

2014-02-11 Thread Alan Meyer
On 2/11/2014 7:21 PM, ngangsia akumbo wrote: > Please i have a silly question to ask. > > How long did it take you to learn how to write programs? > > What is the best way i can master thinker? > I know the syntax but using it to write a program is a problem Here's one way to learn: Start with

Re: Python programming

2014-02-11 Thread Roy Smith
In article , ngangsia akumbo wrote: > Please i have a silly question to ask. > > How long did it take you to learn how to write programs? I've been working on it for 40 years. I'll let you know when I get there. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python programming

2014-02-11 Thread Rustom Mody
On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 5:51:29 AM UTC+5:30, ngangsia akumbo wrote: > Please i have a silly question to ask. > > > How long did it take you to learn how to write programs? > > > What is the best way i can master thinker? > > I know the syntax but using it to write a program is a proble

Re: Python programming

2014-02-11 Thread ngangsia akumbo
On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:11:39 AM UTC+1, Dave Angel wrote: > ngangsia akumbo Wrote in message: python GUI Tkinter -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python programming

2014-02-11 Thread Larry Martell
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: > Dave Angel wrote: > >>> What is the best way i can master thinker? >> >> Never heard of it. Is it a computer language? >> > Socrates himself is particularly missed A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's pissed. -- https://mail.pytho

Re: Python programming

2014-02-11 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Dave Angel wrote: > I did some of my best work before I learned that some of those > problems were impossible. Sounds like something from the invention of Post-It Notes. I can't find an authoritative source, but it's all over the internet, attributed to Spencer

Re: Python programming

2014-02-11 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:21 AM, ngangsia akumbo wrote: > Please i have a silly question to ask. > > How long did it take you to learn how to write programs? Well, let's see. I started programming a quarter of a century ago, and I'm a lot less than a quarter of the way to knowing everything abou

Re: Python programming

2014-02-11 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 12/02/2014 00:21, ngangsia akumbo wrote: Please i have a silly question to ask. How long did it take you to learn how to write programs? What is the best way i can master thinker? I know the syntax but using it to write a program is a problem You *NEVER* stop learning. To become a master

Re: python programming help

2013-12-09 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 4:10 PM, wrote: >> Windows-only is hardly the norm. There's at least as much software >> that's Mac-only or Linux-only as Windows-only. > > As much Mac-only software as Windows-only? Possibly, but I doubt > it although I acknowledge things are moving in that direction. > A

Re: python programming help

2013-12-09 Thread rurpy
On 12/08/2013 10:20 PM, rusi wrote: > On Monday, December 9, 2013 10:37:38 AM UTC+5:30, ru...@yahoo.com wrote: >[...] >> However it does not change the fact that people here have responded >> in rather extreme way to GG posts including calling GG users "twits" >> and claiming GG posts damage their

Re: python programming help

2013-12-09 Thread rurpy
On 12/09/2013 01:15 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:10 PM, wrote: >> We all use buggy software every day. *Every* piece of non-trival >> software is buggy -- you already know that. So you are saying >> that bugs that annoy *you* are ones that *others* should change >> their

Re: python programming help

2013-12-09 Thread rurpy
On 12/09/2013 12:57 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:07 PM, wrote: >> However it does not change the fact that people here have responded >> in rather extreme way to GG posts including calling GG users "twits" >> and claiming GG posts damage their eyesight, as well as repeated

Re: python programming help

2013-12-09 Thread Christopher Welborn
On 08/12/2013 18:14, rafaella...@gmail.com wrote: sorry but i'm new to python ;p 1. it has to be in a form of a function called people and 2. how this code takes in an age and returns the names? "it has to be in the form of a function called people", that made me laugh. Too bad he got an ans

Re: python programming help

2013-12-09 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 09/12/2013 05:07, ru...@yahoo.com wrote: On 12/08/2013 05:27 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 09/12/2013 00:08, ru...@yahoo.com wrote: On 12/08/2013 12:17 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 6:06 AM, wrote:>[...] [...] To the OP, please ignore the above, it's sheer, unadulterated

Re: python programming help

2013-12-09 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:10 PM, wrote: > We all use buggy software every day. *Every* piece of non-trival > software is buggy -- you already know that. So you are saying > that bugs that annoy *you* are ones that *others* should change > their practice to join your boycott to fix. The ones tha

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:07 PM, wrote: > However it does not change the fact that people here have responded > in rather extreme way to GG posts including calling GG users "twits" > and claiming GG posts damage their eyesight, as well as repeatedly > denying the obvious fact that GG is much easie

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread rusi
On Monday, December 9, 2013 10:37:38 AM UTC+5:30, ru...@yahoo.com wrote: > On 12/08/2013 05:27 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > > On 09/12/2013 00:08, wrote: > >> On 12/08/2013 12:17 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > >>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 6:06 AM, rafaell wrote: > >[...] > > To the OP, please ignore the

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread Joel Goldstick
"why can't we all just get along?" Rodney King, RIP -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread rurpy
On 12/08/2013 08:05 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:08 AM, wrote: >> I suspect many >> of them are motivated by political dislike of Google as >> a corporation, or want to stay with the 1990's technology >> they invested time in learning and don't want see change. > > Neith

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread rurpy
On 12/08/2013 05:27 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 09/12/2013 00:08, ru...@yahoo.com wrote: >> On 12/08/2013 12:17 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 6:06 AM, wrote:>[...] >[...] > To the OP, please ignore the above, it's sheer, unadulterated rubbish. > Nobody has ever been bull

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:08 AM, wrote: > I suspect many > of them are motivated by political dislike of Google as > a corporation, or want to stay with the 1990's technology > they invested time in learning and don't want see change. Neither. I don't at all hate Google (I quite like the company

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread YBM
Le 08.12.2013 19:32, rafaella...@gmail.com a écrit : On Sunday, December 8, 2013 6:27:34 PM UTC, bob gailer wrote: On 12/8/2013 12:59 PM, rafaella...@gmail.com wrote: i have a dictionary with names and ages for each name. I want to write a function that takes in an age and returns the names o

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread YBM
Le 08.12.2013 20:06, rafaella...@gmail.com a écrit : i get it, thanks a lot i wrote a different one and it works def people(age): people=[name for name in dic if dic[name]==age] print(people) No it doesn't. You are printing things not returning something. and combine_list is the mos

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread YBM
Le 09.12.2013 01:00, Gregory Ewing a écrit : rafaella...@gmail.com wrote: def people(age): people=lambda age: [name for name in dic if dic[name]==age] but i don't get the lambda age part. Just to explain: YBM has tried to sabotage you by posting a solution that uses a couple of advanced

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 09/12/2013 00:08, ru...@yahoo.com wrote: On 12/08/2013 12:17 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 6:06 AM, wrote:>[...] Also, your posts are acquiring the slimy stain of Google Groups, which makes them rather distasteful. All your replies are getting double-spaced, among other p

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread rurpy
On 12/08/2013 12:17 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 6:06 AM, wrote:>[...] > Also, your posts are acquiring the slimy stain of Google Groups, which > makes them rather distasteful. All your replies are getting > double-spaced, among other problems. Please consider switching to a

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread Gregory Ewing
rafaella...@gmail.com wrote: def people(age): people=lambda age: [name for name in dic if dic[name]==age] but i don't get the lambda age part. Just to explain: YBM has tried to sabotage you by posting a solution that uses a couple of advanced Python features (lambda and list comprehension

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread Terry Reedy
On 12/8/2013 2:06 PM, rafaella...@gmail.com wrote: Even when you do get what lambda means and how use it, name = lambda args: expression which is a carryover from other languages, is inferior to def name(args): return expression because the function object resulting from lambda does not have

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread John Ladasky
On Sunday, December 8, 2013 10:32:31 AM UTC-8, rafae...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] > def people(age): > people=lambda age: [name for name in dic if dic[name]==age] > > people(20) [snip] > this is the code i have so far(with the help of the first post ;p). i > understand how a function and a d

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 08/12/2013 19:06, rafaella...@gmail.com wrote: i get it, thanks a lot i wrote a different one and it works def people(age): people=[name for name in dic if dic[name]==age] print(people) people(20) i have one last question it asks me to test my program function by running these li

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 6:06 AM, wrote: > but when i wrote these lines it returns me an error > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/Users/rafaellasavva/Desktop/people.py", line 19, in > print 'Dan' in people(18) and 'Cathy' in people(18) > TypeError: argument of type 'NoneType' is n

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread rafaellasav
On Sunday, December 8, 2013 6:52:12 PM UTC, Benjamin Kaplan wrote: > On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 10:32 AM, wrote: > > > > > > On Sunday, December 8, 2013 6:27:34 PM UTC, bob gailer wrote: > > > > On 12/8/2013 12:59 PM, rafaella...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > i have a dictionary with names a

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread Benjamin Kaplan
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 10:32 AM, wrote: > > On Sunday, December 8, 2013 6:27:34 PM UTC, bob gailer wrote: > > On 12/8/2013 12:59 PM, rafaella...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > i have a dictionary with names and ages for each name. I want to write a > > > function that takes in an age and returns the

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread rafaellasav
On Sunday, December 8, 2013 6:32:31 PM UTC, rafae...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, December 8, 2013 6:27:34 PM UTC, bob gailer wrote: > > > On 12/8/2013 12:59 PM, rafaella...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > i have a dictionary with names and ages for each name. I want to write a > > > function

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread rafaellasav
On Sunday, December 8, 2013 6:27:34 PM UTC, bob gailer wrote: > On 12/8/2013 12:59 PM, rafaella...@gmail.com wrote: > > > i have a dictionary with names and ages for each name. I want to write a > > function that takes in an age and returns the names of all the people who > > are that age. > >

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 08/12/2013 18:14, rafaella...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, December 8, 2013 6:07:47 PM UTC, YBM wrote: Le 08.12.2013 18:59, rafaella...@gmail.com a �crit : i have a dictionary with names and ages for each name. I want to write a function that takes in an age and returns the names of

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread Gary Herron
On 12/08/2013 09:59 AM, rafaella...@gmail.com wrote: i have a dictionary with names and ages for each name. I want to write a function that takes in an age and returns the names of all the people who are that age. please help This looks like homework for a beginning programming class. Correct

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread bob gailer
On 12/8/2013 12:59 PM, rafaella...@gmail.com wrote: i have a dictionary with names and ages for each name. I want to write a function that takes in an age and returns the names of all the people who are that age. please help Welcome to the python list. Thanks for posting a question. If you we

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread Roy Smith
In article <264c1144-5d04-4ad0-aa32-f4e6770d2...@googlegroups.com>, rafaella...@gmail.com wrote: > i have a dictionary with names and ages for each name. I want to write a > function that takes in an age and returns the names of all the people who are > that age. > please help Homework problem

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread YBM
Le 08.12.2013 19:14, rafaella...@gmail.com a écrit : On Sunday, December 8, 2013 6:07:47 PM UTC, YBM wrote: Le 08.12.2013 18:59, rafaella...@gmail.com a �crit : i have a dictionary with names and ages for each name. I want to write a function that takes in an age and returns the names

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread rafaellasav
On Sunday, December 8, 2013 6:07:47 PM UTC, YBM wrote: > Le 08.12.2013 18:59, rafaella...@gmail.com a �crit : > > > i have a dictionary with names and ages for each name. > > > I want to write a function that takes in an age and returns > > > the names of all the people who are that age. > >

Re: python programming help

2013-12-08 Thread YBM
Le 08.12.2013 18:59, rafaella...@gmail.com a écrit : i have a dictionary with names and ages for each name. I want to write a function that takes in an age and returns the names of all the people who are that age. please help ageDict = { 'john':42, 'jane':36, 'paul':42 } peopleWithAge = lambda

Re: Python Programming - 28 hours training in New York for $3999

2013-01-28 Thread Dave Angel
On 01/26/2013 06:57 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Juhani Karlsson wrote: Or take this course for free and buy 500 lunches. Your choice. You spend $8 on lunch? Wow, that's taking TANSTAAFL a long way... ChrisA MYCROFTXXX I remember when lunches at IBM were nev

Re: Python Programming - 28 hours training in New York for $3999

2013-01-26 Thread Juhani Karlsson
Hah yeah! 8e is normal price here in Finland. : ) On 27 January 2013 01:57, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Juhani Karlsson > wrote: > > Or take this course for free and buy 500 lunches. > > Your choice. > > You spend $8 on lunch? Wow, that's taking TANSTAAFL a long way

Re: Python Programming - 28 hours training in New York for $3999

2013-01-26 Thread Chris Angelico
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Re: Python Programming - 28 hours training in New York for $3999

2013-01-26 Thread Juhani Karlsson
https://www.edx.org/courses/MITx/6.00x/2013_Spring/about Or take this course for free and buy 500 lunches. Your choice. On 26 January 2013 18:12, wrote: > Python Programming - 28 hours training in New York for $3999 > > > Course Outline: http://www.nobleprog.us/python-programming/training-cours

Re: Python programming philosophy

2013-01-05 Thread Sourabh Mhaisekar
The main philosophy behind python (according to me) is rapid application development. The python gives you convinent and powerful tool to develop sophisticated application rapidly. You can find more details on http://www.python.org/about/success/ http://www.python.org/about/success/#rapid-appl

Re: Python programming philosophy

2013-01-05 Thread 88888 Dihedral
chaouche yacine於 2013年1月6日星期日UTC+8上午6時34分38秒寫道: > The compiler reads your source code and parses it into parse trees. This is > first step. It then takes the parse trees and transform them into abstract > syntax trees, which are like a DOM tree in an HTML file, and then transform > that AST into

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