Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-15 Thread BartlebyScrivener
>> which allows soft word-wrap (no >> line breaks stored in the file) gvim 7.0 if you set wrap and linebreak :set wrap :set lbr The lines will softwrap only at whitespace and various punctuation marks. For the indentation issue, use autoindent. rd -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-15 Thread Patrick Thomson
Personally, I use the non-free but absolutely phenomenal TextMate (http://macromates.com/), but I've enjoyed my work with jEdit (http://www.jedit.org/) and, of course, (X)Emacs. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-15 Thread Ramon Diaz-Uriarte
On 9/15/06, Wildemar Wildenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ramon Diaz-Uriarte wrote: > > - I was referring to executing arbitrary sections of a Python file in > > a Python interpreter in an "integrated way". When I tried JEdit, I > > think that Jython was the way to go. (And I think this was al

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-15 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
Ramon Diaz-Uriarte wrote: > - I was referring to executing arbitrary sections of a Python file in > a Python interpreter in an "integrated way". When I tried JEdit, I > think that Jython was the way to go. (And I think this was also the > case for a while, at least to judge from D. Metrz's review >

Python for science (was: Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor)

2006-09-15 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
David J. Braden wrote: > I've come to sense, in the last (many) threads and topics brought up > that I have read in the last 3 weeks, that this NG attracts folks who > are very much into the web-app interface potential and usefulness of > Python, as you yourself seem to be (see following), and o

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-15 Thread Ramon Diaz-Uriarte
On 9/15/06, David J. Braden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: (...) > > jEdit is extensible though java, and with the jython plugin also through > > python. > > Thanks. That helps me get a sense of the landscape. As an emacs user, this is a clear plus for JEdit (and for vi

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-15 Thread Ramon Diaz-Uriarte
On 9/15/06, Wildemar Wildenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ramon Diaz-Uriarte wrote: > >> c) can run programs right from within > > > > But of course. And, contrary to some others (e.g., JEdit, which I > > think forces you to use Jython, so you are stuck with Python 2.1 for > > now) you use the

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-14 Thread David J. Braden
Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: >> Hi Stu und "Willie", >> <> > >> I don't yet know what jython is about, or for, but I'm up for trying > > jedit for python. > jython is an implementation of python in java (hence the name ;)). That > means it's a python interpreter inside a java virtual machine (gr

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-14 Thread stu
OKB (not okblacke) wrote: > What I'm interested in knowing is whether anyone has found any > editor other than TextPad and UltraEdit which allows soft word-wrap (no > line breaks stored in the file) which do NOT wrap the text to the left > edge of the screen but instead wrap it back only as far as

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-14 Thread Jorge Godoy
"OKB (not okblacke)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What I'm interested in knowing is whether anyone has found any > editor other than TextPad and UltraEdit which allows soft word-wrap (no > line breaks stored in the file) which do NOT wrap the text to the left > edge of the screen but ins

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-14 Thread OKB (not okblacke)
What I'm interested in knowing is whether anyone has found any editor other than TextPad and UltraEdit which allows soft word-wrap (no line breaks stored in the file) which do NOT wrap the text to the left edge of the screen but instead wrap it back only as far as the indentation level

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-14 Thread limodou
On 9/15/06, Roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jay wrote: > > I, too, am a hardcore fan of jEdit. It's nice to finally see some user > > support on this forum. :-) > > > The biggest problem I have with anything written in Java is the long > startup time. The editor may be great but the platform

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-14 Thread Ant
Roger wrote: ... > The biggest problem I have with anything written in Java is the long > startup time. The editor may be great but the platform is mediocre. The startup time is one of the main reasons I have started to use vim more than jEdit. That and the fact that I currently have to work on

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-14 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
Ramon Diaz-Uriarte wrote: >> c) can run programs right from within > > But of course. And, contrary to some others (e.g., JEdit, which I > think forces you to use Jython, so you are stuck with Python 2.1 for > now) you use the current python interpreter you have installed. Wrong. But so terribly

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-14 Thread Ramon Diaz-Uriarte
Sorry, I could not resist, since almost every editor under the sun has been suggested as the solution, but (X)Emacs only got a minor mention. On 7 Sep 2006 13:18:22 -0700, Omar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd love the perfect editor that would be: > > a) free Emacs does of course qualify here.

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-14 Thread Roger
Jay wrote: > I, too, am a hardcore fan of jEdit. It's nice to finally see some user > support on this forum. :-) The biggest problem I have with anything written in Java is the long startup time. The editor may be great but the platform is mediocre. I am a SciTE bigot. I have recently tried

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-14 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
Dick Moores wrote: >> to run a script.. you can 'dock' jython in the sides of the editor or >> bottom, and import from the buffer or load it.. or fire jython up from >> the plugin menu > > Doesn't sound easy. With UliPad (or IDLE, for that matter) just hit F5. Which you can do with jEdit just as

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-14 Thread Dick Moores
At 08:51 AM 9/14/2006, stu wrote: >Dick Moores wrote: > > I'm trying out jEdit and UliPad. I got UliPad going right away and > > I'm very pleased with it, but could I jump in here with a basic jEdit > > question? How do you run a script? > > > > And one more. On the menus, the font is clear and la

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-14 Thread stu
Dick Moores wrote: > I'm trying out jEdit and UliPad. I got UliPad going right away and > I'm very pleased with it, but could I jump in here with a basic jEdit > question? How do you run a script? > > And one more. On the menus, the font is clear and large, but the > equivalent key combinations ar

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-14 Thread Dick Moores
At 08:54 PM 9/13/2006, Jay wrote: >I, too, am a hardcore fan of jEdit. It's nice to finally see some user >support on this forum. :-) I'm trying out jEdit and UliPad. I got UliPad going right away and I'm very pleased with it, but could I jump in here with a basic jEdit question? How do you ru

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-14 Thread Franz Steinhaeusler
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 20:45:11 +0800, limodou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >These things UliPad also can do. And it also support html, javascript, >css, java, etc syntax highlight. UliPad also support Input Assistant, >even include custom calltips and auto-complete, and many features, you >can find

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-14 Thread limodou
On 9/14/06, Franz Steinhaeusler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7 Sep 2006 13:18:22 -0700, "Omar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >I'd love the perfect editor that would be: > > > >a) free > > DrPython and spe; both written in Python and wxPython using SciTe's > control scintilla) and SciTE. > > D

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-14 Thread Franz Steinhaeusler
On 7 Sep 2006 13:18:22 -0700, "Omar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'd love the perfect editor that would be: > >a) free DrPython and spe; both written in Python and wxPython using SciTe's control scintilla) and SciTE. DrPython on: http://sourceforge.net/projects/drpython/ (Projectpage) http://drp

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-14 Thread Ant
Jay wrote: > I, too, am a hardcore fan of jEdit. It's nice to finally see some user > support on this forum. :-) I quite often throw in jEdits name in these discussions. It's the most powerful and extensible editor I know of outside of the emacs/vi world (and far more accessible than those). -

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-14 Thread Steve Holden
Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: >>Hi Stu und "Willie", [...] > >>Which plugins give me a good start for scientific stuff? > > Er ... I don't know. What do you mean by 'scientific stuff'? You know, stitching body parts together from different corpses and trying to animate them with lightning, inven

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-14 Thread gnewsg
What about IDLE? I really apreciate it but a big broblem is that it doesn't support tabs: for every source you edit you have to open a new IDLE window. :-\ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-14 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
> Hi Stu und "Willie", > "Willie"? Thats new. ;) > I will be running it under (sigh) Windows. So? Apart from Microsoft being evil and spying on you all the time, I find much satisfaction in the fact that Windows Just Works(tm). Linux on the other hand Just Barely Works(tm). Hello flamewar :).

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-13 Thread Jay
I, too, am a hardcore fan of jEdit. It's nice to finally see some user support on this forum. :-) Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: > stu wrote: > > jedit > > > > http://www.jedit.org/ > > Finally! I usually try to stay out of these discussions; yet I'm always > disappointed at how few people seem t

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-13 Thread David J. Braden
stu wrote: > Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: >> Finally! I usually try to stay out of these discussions; yet I'm always >> disappointed at how few people seem to be using jEdit and how long it >> takes them to come out of their holes. > > well when people start reccomending things like textpad which

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-13 Thread stu
Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: > > Finally! I usually try to stay out of these discussions; yet I'm always > disappointed at how few people seem to be using jEdit and how long it > takes them to come out of their holes. well when people start reccomending things like textpad which is crap. textpad

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-13 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
stu wrote: > jedit > > http://www.jedit.org/ Finally! I usually try to stay out of these discussions; yet I'm always disappointed at how few people seem to be using jEdit and how long it takes them to come out of their holes. So let me enforce that: jEdit www.jedit.org wildemar -- http://ma

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-13 Thread stu
jedit http://www.jedit.org/ much better than textpad by a longshot. but whatever you choose... -stu -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-13 Thread Omar
thank you claudio for your comprehensive answer. I will work on it. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-12 Thread Claudio Grondi
Omar wrote: > thanks for all the responses... > > I'm liking the way ulipad and scite work > > I'd switch to ulipad entirely if I canget to recognize the python > interpreter in the preferences menu. I can't seem to figure that out. It is usually correctly set. Just start Preferences, go to Pyth

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-12 Thread Omar
thanks for all the responses... I'm liking the way ulipad and scite work I'd switch to ulipad entirely if I canget to recognize the python interpreter in the preferences menu. I can't seem to figure that out. Also, I'm highly interested in getting the snippets manager working. any ideas? --

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-11 Thread jussij
Omar wrote: > I'd love the perfect editor that would be: Zeus for Windows understands Python, Java Script, HTML an many other languages: http://www.zeusedit.com/features.html Note: Zeus is shareware (45 day trial). It will do Python syntax highlighting, code folding, class browsing, smart

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-11 Thread John Bokma
Jorgen Grahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10 Sep 2006 16:20:56 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> "urielka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> use Eclipse!!! >> >> Q: how can I do x with A >> A: use B!!! OMG LOLLZZ111!!!11eleven > > No, it was a perfectly reasonable answer. Q: Any t

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-11 Thread Jorgen Grahn
On 10 Sep 2006 16:20:56 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "urielka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> use Eclipse!!! > > Q: how can I do x with A > A: use B!!! OMG LOLLZZ111!!!11eleven No, it was a perfectly reasonable answer. (And I say that even though I (a) hate sloppy writing and (b)

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-11 Thread mystilleef
If you have those requirements installed, it does not need anything else. mystilleef wrote: > I recommend Scribes. > > http://scribes.sf.net > > Flash Demo: http://scribes.sf.net/snippets.htm > > GIF Demo: http://www.minds.may.ie/~dez/images/blog/scribes.html > > Omar wrote: > > I'd love the perfe

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-11 Thread Kent Johnson
Dick Moores wrote: > At 06:30 PM 9/10/2006, Kent Johnson wrote: >> Dick Moores wrote: >>> Also, why do you use TextPad instead of IDLE? >> You're kidding, right? > > No. Tell me, please. Macros? Comparing files? What else? OK...please, no one interpret this as IDLE bashing or attempt to show me

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-10 Thread Dick Moores
At 06:30 PM 9/10/2006, Kent Johnson wrote: >Dick Moores wrote: > > > I downloaded Python (7) from > > http://www.textpad.com/add-ons/synn2t.html and put the file > > PythonV2.4.syn in C:\Program Files\TextPad 4\system . > > > > However, no syntax highlighting is showing up. so I must have done > >

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-10 Thread Steve Holden
Dick Moores wrote: > At 01:10 PM 9/8/2006, Doug Stell wrote: > >>Try www.TextPad.com. I've used it for years and love it. It >>understands many programming language constructs and can be taught to >>understand python so that things show up in color. > > > Any tips on how to teach TextPad to unde

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-10 Thread Kent Johnson
Dick Moores wrote: > I downloaded Python (7) from > http://www.textpad.com/add-ons/synn2t.html and put the file > PythonV2.4.syn in C:\Program Files\TextPad 4\system . > > However, no syntax highlighting is showing up. so I must have done > something wrong. Do I have to do something other than

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-10 Thread Dick Moores
At 02:15 PM 9/10/2006, Kent Johnson wrote: >Dick Moores wrote: > > At 01:10 PM 9/8/2006, Doug Stell wrote: > >> Try www.TextPad.com. I've used it for years and love it. It > >> understands many programming language constructs and can be taught to > >> understand python so that things show up in col

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-10 Thread Kent Johnson
Dick Moores wrote: > At 01:10 PM 9/8/2006, Doug Stell wrote: >> Try www.TextPad.com. I've used it for years and love it. It >> understands many programming language constructs and can be taught to >> understand python so that things show up in color. > > Any tips on how to teach TextPad to underst

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-10 Thread John Bokma
"urielka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > use Eclipse!!! Q: how can I do x with A A: use B!!! OMG LOLLZZ111!!!11eleven -- John MexIT: http://johnbokma.com/mexit/ personal page: http://johnbokma.com/ Experienced programmer avai

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-10 Thread Morten Juhl Johansen
mystilleef wrote: > I recommend Scribes. > > http://scribes.sf.net Scribes looks good. Does it need any Gnome components except what is mentioned @ http://scribes.sourceforge.net/documentation.html#requirements ? Yours, Morten -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-10 Thread urielka
use Eclipse!!! it is not a editor but it is the best free IDE out there. for python use Pydev(pydev.sf.net) plugin:it got EVERYTHING:completteion,debuging(with thread support)you can`t work without a debugger for serious projects. for Web Develop use Aptana(aptana.com) another plugin for eclipse,in

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-09 Thread Dick Moores
At 01:10 PM 9/8/2006, Doug Stell wrote: >Try www.TextPad.com. I've used it for years and love it. It >understands many programming language constructs and can be taught to >understand python so that things show up in color. Any tips on how to teach TextPad to understand python? Thanks, Dick Moor

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-09 Thread Omar
I've been using scite the last few days, and have also been experimenting with ulipad. thanks, again -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-09 Thread Claudio Grondi
Omar wrote: > thanks for the suggestions, fellas > Would be kind of you to tell us which one you have decided to use and why? Claudio Grondi P.S. If you don't like any of already mentioned you can give SciTe a try. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-09 Thread mystilleef
I recommend Scribes. http://scribes.sf.net Flash Demo: http://scribes.sf.net/snippets.htm GIF Demo: http://www.minds.may.ie/~dez/images/blog/scribes.html Omar wrote: > I'd love the perfect editor that would be: > > a) free > > b) enable me to drag and drop code snippets from a sort of browser i

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-08 Thread Omar
thanks for the suggestions, fellas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-08 Thread Omar
thanks for the suggestions, fellas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-08 Thread Doug Stell
Try www.TextPad.com. I've used it for years and love it. It understands many programming language constructs and can be taught to understand python so that things show up in color. On 7 Sep 2006 13:18:22 -0700, "Omar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'd love the perfect editor that would be: > >a) fr

Re: Looking for the Perfect Editor

2006-09-07 Thread Claudio Grondi
Omar wrote: > I'd love the perfect editor that would be: > > a) free > > b) enable me to drag and drop code snippets from a sort of browser into > the code > > c) can run programs right from within > > d) can edit > - PYTHON > - Javascript > - HTML > - actionscript (sinc