Re: GUI: I am also looking for a nudge into the best (GUI) direction.

On 1/11/20 5:43 pm, Michael Torrie wrote: In C# world, WinForms is often used, but it's not "native" win32 widgets. Widgets are implemented in managed code (according to Wikipedia) that draw themselves using the theming dll so they look native, or at least look somewhat consistent with regards t

Re: GUI: I am also looking for a nudge into the best (GUI) direction.

On 10/31/20 5:42 PM, Greg Ewing wrote: > On 1/11/20 9:44 am, Barry Scott wrote: > >> It does not appear to me that use native widgets is important for a tool kit. > > It's not strictly necessary. However, recreating the exact appearance > and behaviour of native widgets is a lot of work, and diff

Re: GUI: I am also looking for a nudge into the best (GUI) direction.

On 1/11/20 9:44 am, Barry Scott wrote: It does not appear to me that use native widgets is important for a tool kit. It's not strictly necessary. However, recreating the exact appearance and behaviour of native widgets is a lot of work, and difficult to do well -- most toolkits that attempt th

Re: GUI: I am also looking for a nudge into the best (GUI) direction.

> On 31 Oct 2020, at 16:37, Igor Korot wrote: > > Hi, Barry, > > On Sat, Oct 31, 2020, 3:39 AM Barry Scott > wrote: > > > > On 29 Oct 2020, at 15:54, flaskee via Python-list > > wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > I've been reading

Re: GUI: I am also looking for a nudge into the best (GUI) direction.

Hi, Barry, On Sat, Oct 31, 2020, 3:39 AM Barry Scott wrote: > > > > On 29 Oct 2020, at 15:54, flaskee via Python-list < > python-list@python.org> wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > I've been reading the GUI toolkit posts. > > > > If anyone can give me a push in the right python direction on > > my ne

Re: GUI: I am also looking for a nudge into the best (GUI) direction.

On Saturday, 31 October 2020 at 08:36:48 UTC, Barry Scott wrote: > > On 29 Oct 2020, at 15:54, flaskee via Python-list > > wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > I've been reading the GUI toolkit posts. > > > > snip > > > Barry Suggest you look at Glade and pure Python3 Works well on Linux (Fedora

Re: GUI: I am also looking for a nudge into the best (GUI) direction.

On Saturday, 31 October 2020 at 08:36:48 UTC, Barry Scott wrote: > > On 29 Oct 2020, at 15:54, flaskee via Python-list > > wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > I've been reading the GUI toolkit posts. > > > > If anyone can give me a push in the right python direction on > > my needs, I'd be grate

Re: GUI: I am also looking for a nudge into the best (GUI) direction.

> On 29 Oct 2020, at 15:54, flaskee via Python-list > wrote: > > Hello! > > I've been reading the GUI toolkit posts. > > If anyone can give me a push in the right python direction on > my needs, I'd be grateful. > > This is for business applications, not games. > (but if a game toolkit fit

Re: GUI: I am also looking for a nudge into the best (GUI) direction.

I was actually working on a summarized list for my question. I thought that I'd produce an up-to-date list of GUI toolkits, with everyone's responses; plus what I've cobbled together from comparisons on other sites. Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursd

Re: GUI: I am also looking for a nudge into the best (GUI) direction.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 4:48 PM Ethan Furman wrote: > On 10/29/20 11:30 AM, Igor Korot wrote: > > > If you have any further questions you can contact me directly. > > Please do not. By keeping the discussion on the list many people can > participate and learn. > This list isn't terribly overnois

Re: GUI: I am also looking for a nudge into the best (GUI) direction.

Hi, Ethan, On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 6:51 PM Ethan Furman wrote: > > On 10/29/20 11:30 AM, Igor Korot wrote: > > > If you have any further questions you can contact me directly. > > Please do not. By keeping the discussion on the list many people can > participate and learn. If the OP has furthe

Re: GUI: I am also looking for a nudge into the best (GUI) direction.

On 10/29/20 11:30 AM, Igor Korot wrote: If you have any further questions you can contact me directly. Please do not. By keeping the discussion on the list many people can participate and learn. -- ~Ethan~ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: GUI: I am also looking for a nudge into the best (GUI) direction.

> The Python toolkits that I've looked at feel mostly grid-oriented > or zone-oriented (you can put the button on the left, or middle, > or right, etc). I don't think it is easily possible in a cross-platform environment. But even if your software is one platform only how will you handle DPI chan

Re: GUI: I am also looking for a nudge into the best (GUI) direction.

Hi, On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 11:33 AM flaskee via Python-list wrote: > > Hello! > > I've been reading the GUI toolkit posts. > > If anyone can give me a push in the right python direction on > my needs, I'd be grateful. > > This is for business applications, not games. > (but if a game toolkit fit

Re: GUI: I am also looking for a nudge into the best (GUI) direction.

On 29.10.2020 16:54, flaskee via Python-list wrote: Thank you for your help in advance! Maybe, you should outline what you actually want to accomplish on each platform group (desktop / mobile). Regards, Dietmar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: GUI: I am also looking for a nudge into the best (GUI) direction.

Hi, On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 1:05 PM Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > > On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 15:54:33 +, flaskee via Python-list > declaimed the following: > > > > >What I'd like: > > > >* To target MacOS, Windows, Linux, Android using native widgets (this drops > >out Kivy). > > > That's g

Re: GUI (tkinter) popularity and job prospects for

On 23.10.2020 18:52, John Pote wrote: I've used tkinter and wxPython occasionally in the past for 1 off test tasks (and interest). What's the advantage of Qt? Qt does support mobile and touch oriented user interfaces. Also, it does support GUI programs on microcontrollers now on bare-metal.

Re: GUI (tkinter) popularity and job prospects for

Il giorno venerdì 23 ottobre 2020 alle 18:55:53 UTC+2 john... ha scritto: > On 23/10/2020 05:47, Grant Edwards wrote: > > > >> I think that commercial desktop applications with a python > >> compatible GUI would likely use QT or a Python binding thereof. > > Agreed. If you want to improve you "

Re: GUI (tkinter) popularity and job prospects for

> On 23 Oct 2020, at 17:52, John Pote wrote: > > > On 23/10/2020 05:47, Grant Edwards wrote: >> >>> I think that commercial desktop applications with a python >>> compatible GUI would likely use QT or a Python binding thereof. >> Agreed. If you want to improve you "hirability" for GUI applic

Re: GUI (tkinter) popularity and job prospects for

On 10/23/2020 12:52 PM, John Pote wrote: On 23/10/2020 05:47, Grant Edwards wrote: I think that commercial desktop applications with a python compatible GUI would likely use QT or a Python binding thereof. Agreed. If you want to improve you "hirability" for GUI application development, I wou

Re: GUI (tkinter) popularity and job prospects for

On 2020-10-23, John Pote wrote: > On 23/10/2020 05:47, Grant Edwards wrote: >> >>> I think that commercial desktop applications with a python >>> compatible GUI would likely use QT or a Python binding thereof. >> Agreed. If you want to improve you "hirability" for GUI application >> development, I

Re: GUI (tkinter) popularity and job prospects for

Am 22.10.20 um 23:52 schrieb Paul Rubin: Michael Torrie writes: I doubt you'll find any jobs connected a particular Python GUI toolkit. It would be really nice if there was a way to straightforwardly run Tkinter applications on Android. You'd install a single .apk and that would let you run

Re: GUI (tkinter) popularity and job prospects for

On 23/10/2020 05:47, Grant Edwards wrote: I think that commercial desktop applications with a python compatible GUI would likely use QT or a Python binding thereof. Agreed. If you want to improve you "hirability" for GUI application development, I would probably put Qt first. Then gobject o

Re: GUI (tkinter) popularity and job prospects for

On 2020-10-22, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 10/22/2020 2:58 PM, Lammie Jonson wrote: > >> I looked at tkinter which seems to have quite a few examples out >> there, but when I searched indeed.com for tkinter and wxpython it >> appeared that there was hardly any job listings mentioning >> those. Why is

Re: GUI (tkinter) popularity and job prospects for

On 2020-10-22, Michael Torrie wrote: > I doubt you'll find any jobs connected a particular Python GUI toolkit. > Except maybe at Red Hat. A couple years ago my employer was looking for (and hired) a Python wx application developer. > Most likely you'll find Python used in web app development, b

Re: GUI (tkinter) popularity and job prospects for

Lammie Jonson於 2020年10月23日星期五 UTC+8上午5時20分45秒寫道： > Thanks, > > Yes, I have some sense about how to do job interviews and market myself > which is always an ongoing process. > > I also just have an interest in different technologies that I may want to > investigate as I can get bored with cert

Re: GUI (tkinter) popularity and job prospects for

On 10/22/2020 2:58 PM, Lammie Jonson wrote: I looked at tkinter which seems to have quite a few examples out there, but when I searched indeed.com for tkinter and wxpython it appeared that there was hardly any job listings mentioning those. Why is that ? I think that commercial desktop appli

Re: GUI (tkinter) popularity and job prospects for

On 2020-10-22 at 12:50:43 -0700, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Thu, 22 Oct 2020, Lammie Jonson wrote: > > I looked at tkinter which seems to have quite a few examples out > > there, but when I searched indeed.com for tkinter and wxpython it > > appeared that there was hardly any job listings mentioni

Re: GUI (tkinter) popularity and job prospects for

Thanks, Yes, I have some sense about how to do job interviews and market myself which is always an ongoing process. I also just have an interest in different technologies that I may want to investigate as I can get bored with certain things a little at times. If some technology seems a lit

Re: GUI (tkinter) popularity and job prospects for

On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 8:39 AM Michael Torrie wrote: > > I was going to look at something like tensorflow perhaps, though I am > > not sure if machine learning is that easy to pickup or not > > Not sure anything difficult and worthwhile, even if it is popular and in > demand, is something you can

Re: GUI (tkinter) popularity and job prospects for

On 10/22/20 12:58 PM, Lammie Jonson wrote: > > I have been a rails developer as well as JS/react. I had wanted to > look at python a bit due to it's popularity. > > I looked at tkinter which seems to have quite a few examples out > there, but when I searched indeed.com for tkinter and wxpython it

Re: GUI (tkinter) popularity and job prospects for

Hi Lammie, On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 10:03 PM Lammie Jonson wrote: > > I looked at tkinter which seems to have quite a few examples out there, > but when I searched indeed.com for tkinter and wxpython it appeared that > there was hardly any job listings mentioning those. Why is that ? > My guess

Re: GUI (tkinter) popularity and job prospects for

On Thu, 22 Oct 2020, Lammie Jonson wrote: I looked at tkinter which seems to have quite a few examples out there, but when I searched indeed.com for tkinter and wxpython it appeared that there was hardly any job listings mentioning those. Why is that ? It's a bit of a demotivating factor to get

Re: GUI, Python2.7- how to build a loop with a button + textbox

On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 19:51:01 -0700 (PDT), alon.naj...@gmail.com wrote: > hi, > > on python 2.7 how do I build a loop with a button + textbox? > > for example: > > I want the user to enter is name and then press "ok" button, I want > his name to be printed 5 times. Tested on Python 3.5.3: import b

Re: GUI, Python2.7- how to build a loop with a button + textbox

On 12/09/18 04:51, alon.naj...@gmail.com wrote: hi, on python 2.7 Please use Python 3. how do I build a loop with a button + textbox? There are many GUI libraries. Tkinter is part of the standard library and appears to be well-documented. https://docs.python.org/3/library/tkinter.html A

Re: GUI user input to function

Am Donnerstag, 28. Dezember 2017 14:00:14 UTC+1 schrieb Chris Angelico: > On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 11:06 PM, Nico Vogeli wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 28. Dezember 2017 12:59:24 UTC+1 schrieb Chris Angelico: > >> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 8:38 PM, Nico Vogeli wrote: > >> > Withs test, this return a corr

Re: GUI user input to function

On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 11:06 PM, Nico Vogeli wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 28. Dezember 2017 12:59:24 UTC+1 schrieb Chris Angelico: >> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 8:38 PM, Nico Vogeli wrote: >> > Withs test, this return a correct value for the two x functions: >> > >> > from sympy import symbols >> > >> >

Re: GUI user input to function

Am Donnerstag, 28. Dezember 2017 12:59:24 UTC+1 schrieb Chris Angelico: > On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 8:38 PM, Nico Vogeli wrote: > > Withs test, this return a correct value for the two x functions: > > > > from sympy import symbols > > > > x = symbols('x') > > f1 = eval(input('function 1 ')) > > f2 =

Re: GUI user input to function

On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 8:38 PM, Nico Vogeli wrote: > Withs test, this return a correct value for the two x functions: > > from sympy import symbols > > x = symbols('x') > f1 = eval(input('function 1 ')) > f2 = eval(input('function 2 ')) > What are you typing as input? It's hard to grok your code

Re: GUI Designer[s]

On 06/26/2017 05:11 AM, Igor Korot wrote: > Take a look at OpenGL and its wx implementation. Or PyQt5 with its integrated OpenGL support. Alternatively, there's QtQuick and its own OpenGL scene management system. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: GUI Designer[s]

Hi, On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 12:29 AM, Ben Finney wrote: > Edward Montague writes: > >> I'd like to eventually have 3D graphics within an application > > For that requirement, your application will need to make use of a > library for presenting and interacting with 3D objects. > > To my knowled

Re: GUI Designer[s]

Edward Montague writes: > I'd like to eventually have 3D graphics within an application For that requirement, your application will need to make use of a library for presenting and interacting with 3D objects. To my knowledge there is no such thing in the standard library, so you'll need to b

Re: GUI

hany.amin.mishr...@gmail.com wrote: > hay , i am new in the coding world,i would like to understand how a python > program is communicating with GUI, for example, if i have a code that > require the user to enter a value ,then this code will do some > calculations and return a value to the user, h

Re: GUI toolkit(s) status

On 11/26/2014 02:40 AM, Dave Cook wrote: > On 2014-11-22, Michael Torrie wrote: > >> I can't speak for wxWidgets, but when I last looked at it years ago it >> fairly reeked of MFC-style GUI programming with event tables instead of >> a nice, flexible signal/callback interface. Has this changed?

Re: GUI toolkit(s) status

I've done a fair bit of Python GUI programming, so here's my 2c. Tkinter is small, fast, and v. frustrating to use (but maybe the latter is just me). It looks good on Windows (from 8.5), ugly on Linux, and OK on Mac (but you have to do a fair bit of if MAC do this else do that. The next three w

Re: GUI toolkit(s) status

On 2014-11-22, Michael Torrie wrote: > I can't speak for wxWidgets, but when I last looked at it years ago it > fairly reeked of MFC-style GUI programming with event tables instead of > a nice, flexible signal/callback interface. Has this changed? In Python? I've been using wxpython for 6 or 7

Re: GUI toolkit(s) status

On Nov 21, 2014 10:09 PM, "Michael Torrie" wrote: > I can't speak for wxWidgets, but when I last looked at it years ago it > fairly reeked of MFC-style GUI programming with event tables instead of > a nice, flexible signal/callback interface. Has this changed? I recall the C++ implementation use

Re: GUI toolkit(s) status

Am 22.11.14 19:33, schrieb wxjmfa...@gmail.com: As you are rewriting unicode, a small suggestion/request. Assume that one processes a part of the Bible in polytonic Greek, one has to create a ton of temporary (locale) letters, <°)))o>< αὐτὸν τὸν ἰχθύα ὁ Χριστιανὸς ἔγραψε τρόλλοι -- h

Re: GUI toolkit(s) status

On 11/22/14, 3:59 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: TeXLive (since 2014, if I'm not wrong) has a GUI installer and package manager, I recognized a "tcl/tk/tkinter-like" - Perl tool and contrary to Python it works. That's Perl-Tk, which, as I said, is still around, but only runs on Windows and X11

Re: GUI toolkit(s) status

On 11/20/2014 02:17 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > But I agree about the issues with tkinter. So, let's see. Shall we > wait for Tcl/Tk Unicode support? Recommend people switch to PyGTK? To > PyQt? To wxPython? To something else? Personally, I'm quite happy with > GTK2 (though that's with Pike, not Py

Re: GUI toolkit(s) status

On 11/20/14, 11:34 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: A possible solution for Tk is to replace the non-C Tcl parts of TK with Python (or the CPython API functions as needed for speed). I have no idea how horrendous a project creating Py/Tk would be. It would be very horrendous. See Perl/Tk as the example.

Re: GUI toolkit(s) status

On 11/20/14, 4:04 AM, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: Apple is a moving target, they pulled the rug from under Tk's feet twice over the past 10 years. Nobody knows if Tk will continue to exist on the mac if Cocoa is withdrawn some day and replaced by a new and completely different windowing framework

Re: GUI toolkit(s) status

Am 21.11.14 05:49, schrieb Paul Rubin: Terry Reedy writes: Tcl/Tk currently use UCS-2, which only handles BMP chars. Alternatives to support astral chars: [other encodings] This is not entirely true: Tcl supports "lazy" typing, i.e. values (Tcl_Obj) are cast upon request into various Tcl_Obj

Re: GUI toolkit(s) status

Terry Reedy writes: > Tcl/Tk currently use UCS-2, which only handles BMP chars. Alternatives > to support astral chars: [other encodings] I haven't looked into the issue but from Christian's post it sounded like the BMP limitation was deeper inside Tcl/TK and would take more serious work to fix.

Re: GUI toolkit(s) status

On 11/20/2014 4:04 AM, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: Tcl nor Tk support Unicode outside the BMP. Full Unicode support is a big todo item on the wishlist for Tcl 9, for Tk nobody really knows. We are lacking manpower and people with specialized knowledge. Tcl/Tk currently use UCS-2, which only ha

Re: GUI toolkit(s) status

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: > Am 20.11.14 09:40, schrieb Chris Angelico: >> >> Ignore jmf. > > > He is trolling, but in this point he is right, unfortunately: neither Tcl > nor Tk support Unicode outside the BMP. Full Unicode support is a big todo > item on the wis

Re: GUI toolkit(s) status

Am 20.11.14 09:40, schrieb Chris Angelico: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: wxjmfa...@gmail.com writes: Today, there are simply no more valid and working GUI toolkit running "out of the box". Tkinter still works for me. What's the problem? Ignore jmf. He is trolling, b

Re: GUI toolkit(s) status

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: > wxjmfa...@gmail.com writes: >> Today, there are simply no more valid and working >> GUI toolkit running "out of the box". > > Tkinter still works for me. What's the problem? Ignore jmf. Most of us didn't even see his post, for one reason or an

Re: GUI toolkit(s) status

wxjmfa...@gmail.com writes: > Today, there are simply no more valid and working > GUI toolkit running "out of the box". Tkinter still works for me. What's the problem? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 4:25 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Jai wrote: >> GUI:-want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed. >> >> There are lots of book here so I am confuse which book i should refer so >> that i don't waste time . please answ

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On 23/12/2013 19:14, Chris Angelico wrote: On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 6:05 AM, wrote: Memory? Let me laugh! Is it a crime to hijack an already-hijacked thread? ChrisA Yes, especially when written with our favourite bug ridden pile of garbage. Perhaps we should write up something for the P

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 6:05 AM, wrote: > Memory? Let me laugh! > Is it a crime to hijack an already-hijacked thread? ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

Le lundi 23 décembre 2013 18:59:41 UTC+1, Wolfgang Keller a écrit : > > > On an actual operating system, the attitude of the developers (do > > > > they actually care or just don't give a darn) is *the* critical > > > > issue for end-user productivity. If a developer makes a statement > > > > su

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

> > On an actual operating system, the attitude of the developers (do > > they actually care or just don't give a darn) is *the* critical > > issue for end-user productivity. If a developer makes a statement > > such as of "just get a faster computer" or "just get more RAM", > > then (s)he probably

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

Den 2013-12-20 skrev Mark Lawrence : > On 20/12/2013 17:52, Martin Schöön wrote: >> >> Coming from many years of SUN Solaris experience I may be a bit >> spoiled when it comes to robustness :-) >> > > You never had the pleasure of working on VMS then? :) > Only very, very little and I have no clear

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

Le vendredi 20 décembre 2013 18:52:44 UTC+1, Martin Schöön a écrit : > This thread hasn't been close to Python for while now and should > > be shut down. But, it is actually kind of interesting since you > > debate possible mechanisms behind the behaviour of my Windows box > > at work: "Not re

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On 20/12/2013 17:52, Martin Schöön wrote: Coming from many years of SUN Solaris experience I may be a bit spoiled when it comes to robustness :-) You never had the pleasure of working on VMS then? :) -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

This thread hasn't been close to Python for while now and should be shut down. But, it is actually kind of interesting since you debate possible mechanisms behind the behaviour of my Windows box at work: "Not responding" is happening to me daily for any application including Microsoft's own Offic

Re: Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Dave Angel wrote: > On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 16:32:37 +0100, Wolfgang Keller > wrote: >> >> With Windows it *is* "normal". An experienced software developer >> once even explained the reason to me. When a single process on > > Windows >> >> does I/O, then the system es

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 16:32:37 +0100, Wolfgang Keller wrote: With Windows it *is* "normal". An experienced software developer once even explained the reason to me. When a single process on Windows does I/O, then the system essentially falls back to "single tasking". Or (non-)"cooperative mult

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > With Windows it *is* "normal". An experienced software developer > once even explained the reason to me. When a single process on Windows > does I/O, then the system essentially falls back to "single tasking". > Or (non-)"cooperative multit

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

> > With Windows systems, I waste something like 90% of my work time > > waiting for that system to stop "Not Responding". > > > > And no, it's not a matter of hardware. > > Something is wrong then. You bet. > Windows has its issues, and it does slow down over time as cruft in > the system accu

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On 12/19/13 10:10 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: All Java GUI frameworks I know of are ridiculous garbage. Not only that Java per se is obscenely fat (and unresponsive), but the GUI frameworks leak like bottomless barrels and the look and feel is so hideous that I would say from personal experience

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

> > All Java GUI frameworks I know of are ridiculous garbage. > > > > Not only that Java per se is obscenely fat (and unresponsive), but > > the GUI frameworks leak like bottomless barrels and the look and > > feel is so hideous that I would say from personal experience with > > numerous Java appl

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On 19/12/2013 09:10, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Le jeudi 19 décembre 2013 09:25:14 UTC+1, Mark Lawrence a écrit : On 19/12/2013 08:10, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Same experience with PyQt4. Py 3.2 : PyQt4.QtCore.PYQT_VERSION_STR -> 4.8.6 Py 3.3 : PyQt4.QtCore.PYQT_VERSION_STR -

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

Le jeudi 19 décembre 2013 09:25:14 UTC+1, Mark Lawrence a écrit : > On 19/12/2013 08:10, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > > Same experience with PyQt4. > > > > > > Py 3.2 : PyQt4.QtCore.PYQT_VERSION_STR -> 4.8.6 > > > Py 3.3 : PyQt4.QtCore.PYQT_VERSION_STR -> 4.10 > > > > > > jmf >

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On 19/12/2013 08:10, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Same experience with PyQt4. Py 3.2 : PyQt4.QtCore.PYQT_VERSION_STR -> 4.8.6 Py 3.3 : PyQt4.QtCore.PYQT_VERSION_STR -> 4.10 jmf Your point being? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

Le mardi 17 décembre 2013 20:00:14 UTC+1, wxjm...@gmail.com a écrit : > Le mardi 17 décembre 2013 19:06:35 UTC+1, Michael Torrie a écrit : > > > On 12/17/2013 08:00 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > > > > > > >> Python is sooo slow when it waits for the human. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On 18/12/2013 09:24, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: [once again snip all the double spaced crap from google groups] Installation of PySide 1.2.1 for Py32, Py33 -> same effect. win32, shiboken, Visual Studio, Qt: ??? jmf The point of this is? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our languag

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

Le mardi 17 décembre 2013 20:00:14 UTC+1, wxjm...@gmail.com a écrit : > Le mardi 17 décembre 2013 19:06:35 UTC+1, Michael Torrie a écrit : > > > On 12/17/2013 08:00 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > > > > > > >> Python is sooo slow when it waits for the human. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

Le mardi 17 décembre 2013 19:06:35 UTC+1, Michael Torrie a écrit : > On 12/17/2013 08:00 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > > >> Python is sooo slow when it waits for the human. > > > > > > With Windows systems, I waste something like 90% of my work time waiting > > > for that system to stop "No

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On 17/12/2013 19:00, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Le mardi 17 décembre 2013 19:06:35 UTC+1, Michael Torrie a écrit : On 12/17/2013 08:00 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: Python is sooo slow when it waits for the human. With Windows systems, I waste something like 90% of my work time waiting

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On 12/17/2013 08:00 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: >> Please check JYTHON and those ready-for-novice GUI tools in java. > > All Java GUI frameworks I know of are ridiculous garbage. > > Not only that Java per se is obscenely fat (and unresponsive), but the > GUI frameworks leak like bottomless barrel

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On 12/17/2013 10:07 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: On an actual operating system, the attitude of the developers (do they actually care or just don't give a darn) is *the* critical issue for end-user productivity. If a developer makes a statement such as of "just get a faster computer" or "just get

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On 12/17/2013 08:00 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: >> Python is sooo slow when it waits for the human. > > With Windows systems, I waste something like 90% of my work time waiting > for that system to stop "Not Responding". > > And no, it's not a matter of hardware. Something is wrong then. Win

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Wolfgang Keller > wrote: > > And besides, again, a commercially licensed PyQt itself isn't *that* > > expensive. > > > The cost of a commercial PyQt license for a single developer is £350 > > (GBP). You may pay in either US Dollars, Euros or GBP. I didn't write

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

> Please check JYTHON and those ready-for-novice GUI tools in java. All Java GUI frameworks I know of are ridiculous garbage. Not only that Java per se is obscenely fat (and unresponsive), but the GUI frameworks leak like bottomless barrels and the look and feel is so hideous that I would say fro

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

> The other thing, specially if you would make a customer project, I > don't know how to pack the app written in python in an installer. If you want your application to be actually user-friendly, you make it available as an installer-less zip archive. It works with Python applications, no matter w

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

> For example Firefox implements its entire GUI in > Javascript using XML GUI definitions. Which has made Firefox essentially unusable because it will fall into koma ("Not Responding") for minutes upon almost each and every mouseclick. Unfortunately I don't know any significantly better alternativ

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

> Python is sooo slow when it waits for the human. With Windows systems, I waste something like 90% of my work time waiting for that system to stop "Not Responding". And no, it's not a matter of hardware. Sincerely, Wolfgang -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On 17/12/2013 14:43, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Addendum. I should say, I had also a lot of fun in writing my own "styling engine". Because when one has to deal with a language, which does not recognize its own keywords... 1and 444 444 tokenize.py could have been a solution, but it's rea

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

Addendum. I should say, I had also a lot of fun in writing my own "styling engine". Because when one has to deal with a language, which does not recognize its own keywords... >>> 1and 444 444 >>> tokenize.py could have been a solution, but it's really too slow. jmf -- https://mail.python.org/

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

Le mardi 17 décembre 2013 14:03:03 UTC+1, Robert Kern a écrit : > On 2013-12-17 11:13, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > > On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:39:06 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: > > > > > >> Personally I am convinced that wxPython can't handle unicode for the > > >> simple reason that it doesn't yet

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On 17/12/2013 11:13, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:39:06 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: Personally I am convinced that wxPython can't handle unicode for the simple reason that it doesn't yet support Python 3 and we all know that Python 2 and unicode don't mix. I don't think this

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: > Am 16.12.13 23:40, schrieb Chris Angelico: >> But my rule of thumb with bash scripts is: If it exceeds a page or >> two in length, it's probably time it got rewritten in an application >> language. When a program is the size of gitk (>

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On 2013-12-17 11:13, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:39:06 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: Personally I am convinced that wxPython can't handle unicode for the simple reason that it doesn't yet support Python 3 and we all know that Python 2 and unicode don't mix. I don't think this

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

Le mardi 17 décembre 2013 10:29:28 UTC+1, Steven D'Aprano a écrit : > On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 23:58:15 -0800, wxjmfauth wrote: > > > > > From all the toolkits, wxPython is probably the most interesting. I used > > > all versions from 2.0 (?) up to 2.8. Then it has been decided to go > > > unicode.

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:39:06 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: > Personally I am convinced that wxPython can't handle unicode for the > simple reason that it doesn't yet support Python 3 and we all know that > Python 2 and unicode don't mix. I don't think this is right. The Unicode support in Python 2

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On 17/12/2013 09:18, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Le mardi 17 décembre 2013 09:33:24 UTC+1, Mark Lawrence a écrit : On 17/12/2013 07:58, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: From all the toolkits, wxPython is probably the most interesting. I used all versions from 2.0 (?) up to 2.8. Then it has be

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On 17/12/2013 09:29, Steven D'Aprano wrote: Even if it is true that wxPython cannot handle Unicode text, you haven't shown it here. Personally I am convinced that wxPython can't handle unicode for the simple reason that it doesn't yet support Python 3 and we all know that Python 2 and unico

  1   2   3   4   5   >