Re: Christoph Gohlke and compiled packages

2023-04-12 Thread Mike Dewhirst
On 13/04/2023 12:00 pm, Eryk Sun wrote: On 4/12/23, Mike Dewhirst wrote: Collecting psycopg2==2.9.3 x86 and x64 wheels are available for Python 3.11 if you can use Psycopg 2 version 2.9.5 or 2.9.6 instead of 2.9.3: https://pypi.org/project/psycopg2/2.9.5/#files https://pypi.org/project/psycop

Re: Christoph Gohlke and compiled packages

2023-04-12 Thread Eryk Sun
On 4/12/23, Mike Dewhirst wrote: > > Collecting psycopg2==2.9.3 x86 and x64 wheels are available for Python 3.11 if you can use Psycopg 2 version 2.9.5 or 2.9.6 instead of 2.9.3: https://pypi.org/project/psycopg2/2.9.5/#files https://pypi.org/project/psycopg2/2.9.6/#files -- https://mail.python

Re: Christoph Gohlke and compiled packages

2023-04-12 Thread MRAB
On 2023-04-13 02:27, Mike Dewhirst wrote: On 12/04/2023 10:59 pm, Mike Dewhirst wrote: Sadly Windows is still in the dock. The jury is still out. Turns out the "without a hitch" was based on cached wheels. I'm going to start from scratch with new projects using Pythons 3.8, 3.10 and 3.11 and

Re: Christoph Gohlke and compiled packages

2023-04-12 Thread Mike Dewhirst
On 12/04/2023 10:59 pm, Mike Dewhirst wrote: Sadly Windows is still in the dock. The jury is still out. Turns out the "without a hitch" was based on cached wheels. I'm going to start from scratch with new projects using Pythons 3.8, 3.10 and 3.11 and report back. Report summary: pip install

Re: Christoph Gohlke and compiled packages

2023-04-12 Thread Thomas Passin
On 4/12/2023 8:59 AM, Mike Dewhirst wrote: Sadly Windows is still in the dock. The jury is still out. Turns out the "without a hitch" was based on cached wheels. I'm going to start from scratch with new projects using Pythons 3.8, 3.10 and 3.11 and report back. Sorry for the length to come,

Re: Christoph Gohlke and compiled packages

2023-04-12 Thread Mike Dewhirst
Sadly Windows is still in the dock. The jury is still out. Turns out the "without a hitch" was based on cached wheels. I'm going to start from scratch with new projects using Pythons 3.8, 3.10 and 3.11 and report back. Cheers Mike On 12/04/2023 6:13 pm, Mike Dewhirst wrote: Well thank you

Re: Christoph Gohlke and compiled packages

2023-04-12 Thread Mike Dewhirst
Well thank you Christoph Gohlke and thank you Ian Bicking and colleagues. I just used pip to nakedly install psycopg2 and Pillow without a hitch. My distrust of Windows has kept me going back to Christoff's well for years. Maybe it is time to assume innocence unless proven guilty ;-) Thanks

Re: Christoph Gohlke and compiled packages

2023-04-11 Thread Michael Torrie
On 4/11/23 11:48, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > You can hardly blame a lot of people for doing this. A seb search for > "download python" gives this as the first hit: > https://www.python.org/downloads/ Very true, but it points to the difference between how people install Python on Windows compared to L

Re: Christoph Gohlke and compiled packages

2023-04-11 Thread Mats Wichmann
On 4/11/23 11:48, Oscar Benjamin wrote: On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 14:55, Mats Wichmann wrote: On 4/11/23 06:03, Roel Schroeven wrote: Op 11/04/2023 om 12:58 schreef Chris Angelico: Python itself is fine, but a lot of third-party packages are hard to obtain. So if you need numpy, for instance,

Re: Christoph Gohlke and compiled packages

2023-04-11 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 14:55, Mats Wichmann wrote: > > On 4/11/23 06:03, Roel Schroeven wrote: > > Op 11/04/2023 om 12:58 schreef Chris Angelico: > > >> Python itself is fine, but a lot of third-party packages are hard to > >> obtain. So if you need numpy, for instance, or psycopg2, you might > >>

Re: Christoph Gohlke and compiled packages

2023-04-11 Thread Mats Wichmann
On 4/11/23 06:03, Roel Schroeven wrote: Op 11/04/2023 om 12:58 schreef Chris Angelico: Python itself is fine, but a lot of third-party packages are hard to obtain. So if you need numpy, for instance, or psycopg2, you might need to find an alternative source. These days I use pip to install pac

Re: Christoph Gohlke and compiled packages

2023-04-11 Thread Thomas Passin
On 4/11/2023 6:58 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 20:15, Jim Schwartz wrote: What’s the problem now? Is it with python on windows? I use python on windows so I’d like to know. Thanks Python itself is fine, but a lot of third-party packages are hard to obtain. So if you n

Re: Christoph Gohlke and compiled packages

2023-04-11 Thread Peter J. Holzer
On 2023-04-11 12:54:05 +0100, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > Certainly for the more widely used libraries like numpy installing > binaries with pip is not a problem these days on Windows or other > popular OS. I notice that psycopg2 *only* provides binaries for > Windows and not e.g. OSX or Linux For Lin

Re: Christoph Gohlke and compiled packages

2023-04-11 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 21:55, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > > Both numpy and psycopg2 have binary wheels for Windows that can be pip > installed from PyPI. Ah good. It's been a long time since I've needed to care about Windows, so I'm a bit out of the loop. That's good news. While not at all detracting

Re: Christoph Gohlke and compiled packages

2023-04-11 Thread Roel Schroeven
Op 11/04/2023 om 12:58 schreef Chris Angelico: On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 20:15, Jim Schwartz wrote: > > What’s the problem now? Is it with python on windows? I use python on windows so I’d like to know. Thanks > Python itself is fine, but a lot of third-party packages are hard to obtain. So if

Re: Christoph Gohlke and compiled packages

2023-04-11 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 12:01, Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 20:15, Jim Schwartz wrote: > > > > What’s the problem now? Is it with python on windows? I use python on > > windows so I’d like to know. Thanks > > > > Python itself is fine, but a lot of third-party packages are h

Re: Christoph Gohlke and compiled packages

2023-04-11 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 20:15, Jim Schwartz wrote: > > What’s the problem now? Is it with python on windows? I use python on > windows so I’d like to know. Thanks > Python itself is fine, but a lot of third-party packages are hard to obtain. So if you need numpy, for instance, or psycopg2, you

Re: Christoph Gohlke and compiled packages

2023-04-11 Thread Jim Schwartz
What’s the problem now? Is it with python on windows? I use python on windows so I’d like to know. Thanks Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 11, 2023, at 2:24 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 14:20, Mike Dewhirst wrote: >> >> It seems Christoph Gohlke has been cut adrift and

Re: Christoph Gohlke and compiled packages

2023-04-11 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 18:22, Mike Dewhirst wrote: > > On 11/04/2023 5:21 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> My personal view? Windows is *really really really* hard to support, >> and ONE PERSON did a stellar job of supporting the platform for an >> incredibly long job. > > > I have to agree - but wh

Re: Christoph Gohlke and compiled packages

2023-04-11 Thread Mike Dewhirst
On 11/04/2023 5:21 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 14:20, Mike Dewhirst wrote: It seems Christoph Gohlke has been cut adrift and his extremely valuable web page ... https://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/ ... turned into an archive getting staler by the day. What does th

Re: Christoph Gohlke and compiled packages

2023-04-11 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 14:20, Mike Dewhirst wrote: > > It seems Christoph Gohlke has been cut adrift and his extremely valuable > web page ... > > https://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/ > > ... turned into an archive getting staler by the day. > > What does the Python Software Foundation and