Antoon Pardon wrote:
> On 2007-04-26, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
>
>> Warning: this is an explicit test to see whether you can sit on your
>> hands and refrain from replying. It's hard to find a thread where you
>> don't make the last comment on every branch you get involved i
On 2007-04-26, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Antoon Pardon wrote:
>> On 2007-04-25, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...]
>>> Most people reading a tutorial are aware that they are being given the
>>> knowledge they need to put the subject matter to immediate use, and th
Michael Hoffman wrote:
> Neil Cerutti wrote:
>>> On Apr 23, 1:38 pm, Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
tutorial:
The best way to remember how slices work is
>>> ...
+---+---+---+---+---+
| H | e | l |
Neil Cerutti wrote:
>> On Apr 23, 1:38 pm, Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
>>> tutorial:
>>>
>>> The best way to remember how slices work is
>> ...
>>> +---+---+---+---+---+
>>> | H | e | l | p | A |
>>> +---+---+---+---+-
On 2007-04-25, Ant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 23, 1:38 pm, Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
>> tutorial:
>>
>> The best way to remember how slices work is
> ...
>> +---+---+---+---+---+
>> | H | e | l | p | A |
>> +
Antoon Pardon wrote:
> On 2007-04-25, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
>>>
>> Most people reading a tutorial are aware that they are being given the
>> knowledge they need to put the subject matter to immediate use, and that
>> there may well be refinements that are glossed over or c
On 2007-04-25, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Antoon Pardon wrote:
>> On 2007-04-25, Ant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Apr 23, 1:38 pm, Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
tutorial:
The best way to rem
On Apr 23, 1:38 pm, Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
> tutorial:
>
> The best way to remember how slices work is
...
> +---+---+---+---+---+
> | H | e | l | p | A |
> +---+---+---+---+---+
> 0 1 2 3 4 5
> -5 -4
On 2007-04-25, Hamilton, William <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's how everything I've ever learned has been taught. Start
> with a simple explanation that may not be completely accurate
> but is functional, then fill in the details later when there is
> a context to put them in. The tutorial c
Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Wording to that effect makes it more clear that it is a crutch
>> that can be usefull now but that it should be discarded later.
>>
> Most people reading a tutorial are aware that they are being given the
> knowledge they need to put the subject matter
Antoon Pardon wrote:
> On 2007-04-25, Ant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Apr 23, 1:38 pm, Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
>>> tutorial:
>>>
>>> The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the indices as
>> ...
>>>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:python-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Antoon
Pardon
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 7:40 AM
> To: python-list@python.org
> Subject: Re: Tutorial creates confusion about slices
>
> On 2007-04-24, Michael B
On 2007-04-25, Ant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 23, 1:38 pm, Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
>> tutorial:
>>
>> The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the indices as
> ...
>> +---+---+---+---+---+
>> |
On Apr 23, 1:38 pm, Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
> tutorial:
>
> The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the indices as
...
> +---+---+---+---+---+
> | H | e | l | p | A |
> +---+---+---+---+---+
> 0 1
Antoon Pardon wrote:
> On 2007-04-24, Michael Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Really only one person has argued that the docs do not need to be
>> changed. The other two people seemed to think you were asking for help
>> rather than discussing how to revise the docs. Understandable, sinc
Hi Antoon,
> The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the indices as
...
> +---+---+---+---+---+
> | H | e | l | p | A |
> +---+---+---+---+---+
> 0 1 2 3 4 5
> -5 -4 -3 -2 -1
>
> This is all very well with a simple slice like:
>
> "HelpA"[2:4]=> "lp
On 2007-04-24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Antoon Pardon wrote:
>> On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Apr 24, 2007, at 6:35 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>> >
>> >> People don't read tutorials in a strictly linear fashion. They can
>> >> continue
On 2007-04-24, Michael Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Really only one person has argued that the docs do not need to be
> changed. The other two people seemed to think you were asking for help
> rather than discussing how to revise the docs. Understandable, since
> that's why most people
Antoon Pardon wrote:
> On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Apr 24, 2007, at 6:35 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> >
> >> People don't read tutorials in a strictly linear fashion. They can
> >> continue to later subjects and then come back here to see how things
> >> tie
[Michael Hoffman]
>> Personally, I do not think of slices in the way this tutorial suggests,
>> but I think taking it out without replacement would not help. If you
>> want to add a more accurate replacement, I think that would be better
>> received than just saying that the section should be re
On 2007-04-24, Michael Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
>>> Submit a patch if you want it changed. I'm sure your valuable
>>> insights will greatly improve the quality of the python documentation.
>>
>> Fat chance, if they reason like you.
>
> I don't think that Micha
Antoon Pardon wrote:
>> Submit a patch if you want it changed. I'm sure your valuable
>> insights will greatly improve the quality of the python documentation.
>
> Fat chance, if they reason like you.
I don't think that Michael Bentley is the documents maintainer. Are you
trying to pick a fi
On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Apr 24, 2007, at 6:35 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
>> People don't read tutorials in a strictly linear fashion. They can
>> continue to later subjects and then come back here to see how things
>> tie together. So the fact that it is onl
On Apr 24, 2007, at 6:35 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Apr 24, 2007, at 4:47 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>>
>>> On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Apr 24, 2007, at 1:39 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Apr 24, 2007, at 4:47 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
>> On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Apr 24, 2007, at 1:39 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>>>
I suspect that if you give this explanation to someone an
On Apr 24, 2007, at 4:47 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Apr 24, 2007, at 1:39 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>>
>>> I suspect that if you give this explanation to someone and explain
>>> that there is also a step parameter, chances are he w
On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Apr 24, 2007, at 1:39 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
>> I suspect that if you give this explanation to someone and explain
>> that there is also a step parameter, chances are he will answer
>> correctly if you ask him, what he thinks the
On Apr 24, 2007, at 1:39 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> On 2007-04-23, Michael Bentley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Apr 23, 2007, at 7:38 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>>
>>> The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
>>> tutorial:
>>>
>>> The best way to remember how slices work is
On 2007-04-23, Hamilton, William <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:python-
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Antoon
> Pardon
>> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 7:38 AM
>> To: python-list@python.org
>> Subject: Tutorial creates confusion about
On 2007-04-23, Michael Bentley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Apr 23, 2007, at 7:38 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
>> The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
>> tutorial:
>>
>> The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the indices as
>> pointing between characters, wi
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:python-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Antoon
Pardon
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 7:38 AM
> To: python-list@python.org
> Subject: Tutorial creates confusion about slices
>
> The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
On Apr 23, 2007, at 7:38 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
> tutorial:
>
> The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the indices as
> pointing between characters, with the left edge of the first character
> numbered 0. Then the righ
On 2007-04-23, Rob Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Antoon Pardon wrote:
>> The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
>> tutorial:
>>
>> The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the indices as
>> pointing between characters, with the left edge of the first charact
Antoon Pardon wrote:
> The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
> tutorial:
>
> The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the indices as
> pointing between characters, with the left edge of the first character
> numbered 0. Then the right edge of the last character o
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