Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-06-05 Thread Dražen Gemić
Ilias Lazaridis wrote: > Xah Lee wrote: >> for whatever advice or action i can solicit. Meanwhile, if you do know >> a web hosting company that can take some 80 G of bandwidth/month for >> less than $25 a month, please let me know! (i do hope if someone here >> runs a hosting business and can host

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-06-05 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Xah Lee wrote: > Thanks to the great many people who has written to my ISP in support of [...] > As to dreamhost my webhosting company canceling my account, i will try > to reason with them, and see what is the final outcome. They have the > legal right to kick me because in the contract that allo

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-31 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On 31 May 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Most languages stay blindly in their own community, oblivious to the > nature or facts of computing languages outside of their world. If > there are more relevant cross-posting, then this problem can be > lessened. (cross-posted to c.l.perl.misc and c.l.

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-31 Thread Mumia W.
Xah Lee wrote: > Thanks to the great many people who has written to my ISP in support of > me. I'm sorry to say, it looks like they will be killing my account > anyhow. [...] I'm sorry to see you go for now Xah, but I'll be doubly happy to see your return :) Dreamhost isn't the only hosting compa

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-31 Thread Xah Lee
Thanks to the great many people who has written to my ISP in support of me. I'm sorry to say, it looks like they will be killing my account anyhow. I have exchanged a couple letters with the guy at my web host and he is not changing the decision. Of this thread, i think 2/3 or 3/4 supported my vie

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-31 Thread Ten
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 10:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Your first question should be: Is it alright that Xah harasses 5 > >newsgroups? Or maybe work on your spelling, harass is with one r, but > >maybe you didn't read the subject, which wouldn't amaze me, since you > >sound like you should be sp

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-30 Thread John Bokma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't get the MySpace OMG reference, but rest assured John, you are > still my favorite > newsnet nazi. I know you have been feeling pretty insecure about this > Xah fellow, but Funny that someone diagnosing insecurity needs to refer to Nazi's in an attempt to promot

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-30 Thread John Bokma
Max M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Your first question should be: Is it alright that Xah harasses 5 >> newsgroups? Or maybe work on your spelling, harass is with one r, but >> maybe you didn't read the subject, which wouldn't amaze me, since yo

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-30 Thread Mumia W.
David Squire wrote: > Max M wrote: >> John Bokma wrote: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> Your first question should be: Is it alright that Xah harasses 5 >>> newsgroups? Or maybe work on your spelling, harass is with one r, but >>> maybe you didn't read the subject, which wouldn't amaze me, si

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-30 Thread Mumia W.
Max M wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Your first question should be: Is it alright that Xah harasses 5 >> newsgroups? Or maybe work on your spelling, harass is with one r, but >> maybe you didn't read the subject, which wouldn't amaze me, since you >> sound like you

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-30 Thread ilitzroth
>Your first question should be: Is it alright that Xah harasses 5 >newsgroups? Or maybe work on your spelling, harass is with one r, but >maybe you didn't read the subject, which wouldn't amaze me, since you >sound like you should be spending time on MySpace OMG!. Dear John, Should I ask myself th

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-30 Thread David Squire
Max M wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Your first question should be: Is it alright that Xah harasses 5 >> newsgroups? Or maybe work on your spelling, harass is with one r, but >> maybe you didn't read the subject, which wouldn't amaze me, since you >> sound like you

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-30 Thread Max M
John Bokma wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Your first question should be: Is it alright that Xah harasses 5 > newsgroups? Or maybe work on your spelling, harass is with one r, but > maybe you didn't read the subject, which wouldn't amaze me, since you > sound like you should be spending tim

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-29 Thread John Bokma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>"There is so much noise we can't hear each other, but I will defend >>to the death a chance to get heard for whatever you might have to say >>that's intelligent (while not necessarily from your own mouth)". > > You write a much cooler quote! > >>Besides, it is not clea

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-29 Thread Pisin Bootvong
Boris Borcic wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > We seem to have strayed a long way from Voltaire's > > "I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your > > right to say it.", > > but that was of course the age of enlightenment. > > Obviously this wisdom is getting stale an

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-29 Thread ilitzroth
>"There is so much noise we can't hear each other, but I will defend >to the death a chance to get heard for whatever you might have to say that's >intelligent (while not necessarily from your own mouth)". You write a much cooler quote! >Besides, it is not clear that Voltaire really said that. N

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-29 Thread Boris Borcic
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > We seem to have strayed a long way from Voltaire's > "I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your > right to say it.", > but that was of course the age of enlightenment. Obviously this wisdom is getting stale and should be updated to something l

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-27 Thread Dražen Gemić
I can't see the way how Xah Lee could be on topic in comp.lang.java.programmer. He is not a programmer, and does not write about neither programming nor Java. He should stick to philosophy and advocacy groups. DG -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-26 Thread P.L.Hayes
"Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "P.L.Hayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> I agree. I have already written to Dreamhost and I hope more people >> will do so. I have found some of what has been posted here quite >> astonishing and the actions of

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-26 Thread Steve Holden
John Bokma wrote: > Eli Gottlieb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Who reads blogs? They're well known for housing crackpots far worse >>than Xah, and I estimate he doesn't want to associate himself with that >>sort. > > > Yup, he seems to be quite happy as a Usenet Kook > An area in which y

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-26 Thread Mike Schilling
"P.L.Hayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I agree. I have already written to Dreamhost and I hope more people > will do so. I have found some of what has been posted here quite > astonishing and the actions of certain people to be reprehensible: by > far the most

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-26 Thread P.L.Hayes
"Mumia W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mitch wrote: >> John Bokma wrote: >> [...] >>> You're mistaken. All you need to do is report it. After some time >>> Xah will either walk in line with the rest of the world, or has >>> found somewhere else to yell. As long as it's not my back garden >>> and

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-26 Thread Frank Goenninger DG1SBG
John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Felts) wrote: > >> Count me among the clueless, then. I just wrote to DreamHost and asked >> that they reverse their decision to terminate his account. > > I am sure that DreamHost has quite a nice /dev/null for clueless idiots > li

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-26 Thread Mumia W.
Robert Sedlacek wrote: > In comp.lang.perl.misc Mitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > >> All that I snipped is your opinion, which is yours to do with as you >> please. "I like it just the way it is." is *MY* opinion, so please >> don't try to change it. I think I know my opinion best. > > Wrong.

RE: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-26 Thread Sander Steffann
From: John Bokma > dreamhost has made a decission, a right one IMO. And now you > ask people to harass them more? > > You really are just a pathetic little shit now aren't you? > Not even the balls nor the guts to fix the issue that you are. Using language like this clearly shows who has a commu

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-26 Thread Chris Uppal
Fred Gilham wrote: > BTW, one time I tried a little social engineering to get rid of an > irrelevant cross-posted thread. I replied to the messages in the > thread (an irrelevant political thread posted in rec.audio.tubes) with > (somewhat) inflammatory replies but deleted my newsgroup from the >

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-26 Thread Robert Sedlacek
In comp.lang.perl.misc Mitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > All that I snipped is your opinion, which is yours to do with as you > please. "I like it just the way it is." is *MY* opinion, so please > don't try to change it. I think I know my opinion best. Wrong. You don't like it how it is. Beca

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-26 Thread Robin Becker
Steve Holden wrote: .. > I too wrote to XL's hosting company pointing out that while he might be > an irritant he wasn't particularly abusive. Bokma, on the other hand, > can be. I don't like either of them much, but at least Xah Lee insults > everyone while Bokma appears to resort to ad hom

OT: Navarth (was Re: John Bokma harassment)

2006-05-25 Thread John Bokma
"Geoffrey Summerhayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> "Geoffrey Summerhayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> After you kill Navarth, will it be nothing but gruff and deedle >>> with a little wobbly to fill in the chi

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-25 Thread Dražen Gemić
Kay Schluehr wrote: > Sounds like me. In rare moments I believe that I'm not alone on usenet > but there are other people as well. I wanted to go to the doctor > because I believed I had a multiple personality but than I discovered > that the doctor was me too. That's bad, because all of you must

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-25 Thread Geoffrey Summerhayes
"John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Geoffrey Summerhayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> After you kill Navarth, will it be nothing but gruff and deedle >> with a little wobbly to fill in the chinks? > > Comparing Navarth with Xah is a huge insult to Jack V

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-25 Thread Fred Gilham
Dale King <"DaleWKing [at]gmail [dot] com"> writes: > Therefore you do not have the "right" to do what you want with > Usenet. You have a responsibility to use Usenet in a way that benefits > the group as a whole (e.g. asking interesting questions that educate > others). ...or at least, in a way

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-25 Thread Steve Holden
Robert Boyd wrote: > On 24 May 2006 08:29:57 -0700, Rune Strand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>I can just declare my support. Reading Mr. Bokmas comments below [*] >>certainly makes my suport stronger. >> > > > I sent an email in support of Xah, which I wouldn't have bothered to > do had I no

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-25 Thread Dale King
Xah Lee wrote: > I'm sorry to trouble everyone. But as you might know, due to my > controversial writings and style, recently John Bokma lobbied people to > complaint to my web hosting provider. After exchanging a few emails, my > web hosting provider sent me a 30-day account cancellation notice la

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-25 Thread John Bokma
"Geoffrey Summerhayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After you kill Navarth, will it be nothing but gruff and deedle > with a little wobbly to fill in the chinks? Comparing Navarth with Xah is a huge insult to Jack Vance. You should be ashamed of yourself for even thinking about it, let alone wri

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-25 Thread Geoffrey Summerhayes
"John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dra¾en Gemiæ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> There is a person on USENET, particularly in hr. hierarchy that >> posts under three different accounts. Sometimes he argues with >> himself, and sometimes event supports himsel

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-25 Thread John Bokma
Dra¾en Gemiæ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is a person on USENET, particularly in hr. hierarchy that > posts under three different accounts. Sometimes he argues with > himself, and sometimes event supports himself :-) > > Maybe we have the similar case here. Wouldn't amaze me if some of the

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-25 Thread Kay Schluehr
Dražen Gemic wrote: > Larry Elmore wrote: > > No shit. Lately it seems that for every "spam" post of Xah's, there's > > at three or more by John *to all the same newsgroups* bitching about > > Xah's use of bandwidth. Pot, meet kettle. I'm killfiling Xah for being > > a useless twit and killfili

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-25 Thread Dražen Gemić
Larry Elmore wrote: > No shit. Lately it seems that for every "spam" post of Xah's, there's > at three or more by John *to all the same newsgroups* bitching about > Xah's use of bandwidth. Pot, meet kettle. I'm killfiling Xah for being > a useless twit and killfiling John for being a prick about

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-25 Thread Iain Chalmers
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tim X <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I also seem to remember a page on his website from a couple of years > back in which he admits enjoying trolling and starting flame wars - > but I can't find it now, so maybe I'm mistaken. http://web.archive.org/web/200502041726

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-25 Thread bugbear
Mitch wrote: > Sure, each server has terms and conditions that apply, doesn't mean you > should be able to ban people from speaking just because you don't like > what they say. You are a silly person. BugBear -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-25 Thread Tim X
Mitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > John Bokma wrote: >> Mitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> John Bokma wrote: >>> [...] You're mistaken. All you need to do is report it. After some time Xah will either walk in line with the rest of the world, or has found somewhere else to yel

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread James
> We seem to have strayed a long way from Voltaire's > "I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your > right to say it." Not at all. My problem with Xah Lee is that he is abusing the Usenet as a personal BLOG. He has a web site to post these articles and he can certainly p

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread David Steuber
I'm loath to crosspost this but I don't know which (if any) news group Xah actually reads. I also don't want to make just a private response to Xah's email to a public post. Anyway, the TOS of dreamhost.com is here: http://www.dreamhost.com/tos.html Two important sections I'll quote: INTER

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread marc spitzer
On 2006-05-25, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Felts) wrote: > >> Count me among the clueless, then. I just wrote to DreamHost and asked >> that they reverse their decision to terminate his account. > > I am sure that DreamHost has quite a nice /dev/null for clueless

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Ben Bullock
"Ken Tilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Ben Bullock wrote: >> "Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> If you believe this lobbying to my webhosting provider is unjust, >>> please write to my web hosting provider [EMAIL

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread John Bokma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Felts) wrote: > Count me among the clueless, then. I just wrote to DreamHost and asked > that they reverse their decision to terminate his account. I am sure that DreamHost has quite a nice /dev/null for clueless idiots like you and your sock puppets :-D. -- John

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Bob Felts
John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Ant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have no particular affinity for Xah's views, but what does get up my > > nose is usenet Nazism. > > That's because you're clueless. Count me among the clueless, then. I just wrote to DreamHost and asked that they

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Peter Decker
On 24 May 2006 15:54:56 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And ain't it cool that reporting Xah's abuse might stop both? C'mon - admit it! you hafta be a Republican with a hardon for Bush! -- # p.d. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread usenet
Xah Lee wrote: > I do not like to post off-topic messages Oh REALLY? That's strange, because I don't recall ever seeing an on-topic message (a Perl message in a Perl newsgroup) from Xah. Every one of the many Xah post I've ever seen (including the "Philosopher" message that this thread morphed i

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Peter Decker
On 24 May 2006 15:26:12 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Ant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have no particular affinity for Xah's views, but what does get up my > > nose is usenet Nazism. > > That's because you're clueless. Sounds like your one of those Bush ass-lickers who think

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Larry Elmore
Bill Atkins wrote: > John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>Ben Bullock wrote: >>> "Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >If you believe this lobbying to my webhosting provider is unjust, >

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread George Sakkis
Geoffrey Summerhayes wrote: > "Bill Atkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > [snip] > > > >> -- > >> John MexIT: http://johnbokma.com/mexit/ > >>personal page:

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Geoffrey Summerhayes
"Bill Atkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [snip] > >> -- >> John MexIT: http://johnbokma.com/mexit/ >>personal page: http://johnbokma.com/ >> Exper

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread olsongt
> > > > > > Time for a game! > > > > Both johnbokma.com and castleamber.com are hosted by seagull.net. Here > > is a link to their TOS: > > > > http://www.seagull.net/tos.html > > > > Who can come up with the most violations that John is committing on > > this thread? I count 4. > > > Let's not d

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Mumia W.
Mitch wrote: > John Bokma wrote: > [...] >> You're mistaken. All you need to do is report it. After some time Xah >> will either walk in line with the rest of the world, or has found >> somewhere else to yell. As long as it's not my back garden and not >> around 4AM, I am ok with it. >> > > Wal

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Mumia W.
SamFeltus wrote: > I was considering opening an account with Dreamhost. Can't say I agree > with all of Xah's writings, but they often raise important points. > Dreamhost is a company I will never spend money with. Usenet is full > of narrow minded group thinking that needs to be questioned. >

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Mumia W.
Xah Lee wrote: > I'm sorry to trouble everyone. But as you might know, due to my > controversial writings and style, recently John Bokma lobbied people to > complaint to my web hosting provider. After exchanging a few emails, my > web hosting provider sent me a 30-day account cancellation notice la

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread D H
Kay Schluehr wrote: > To make a witty comment: > Xah is the star, who undresses his mind. > But good and sensitive people don't like liking to > contribute in those nasty battles and believe their time is deserved to > something less wastefull. > I mildly disagree with attitude and tend to > t

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Mitch
John Bokma wrote: > fup to poster > > Mitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> John Bokma wrote: > > [...] > >>> Funny how people who always think they can "change Usenet" have no >>> clue about what Usenet is and how it works in the first place. >> Who said anything about changing it? I like it

RE: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth
! ! -Original Message- From: John Bokma And ain't it cool that reporting Xah's abuse might stop both? -- John Bokma Freelance software developer & Experienced Perl programmer: http://castleamber.com/ CRAP!

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Kay Schluehr
bradb wrote: > > C'mon, John Bokma (and everyone else dumb enough to crosspost their > > shushing to every group on the crosspost list -- why do they do that? So > > Xah will hear them six times? No, they want everyone to see how witty > > they are when they tell Xah off. Now /that/ is spam) is th

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread John Bokma
fup to poster Mitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: [...] >> Funny how people who always think they can "change Usenet" have no >> clue about what Usenet is and how it works in the first place. > > Who said anything about changing it? I like it just the way it is. You don't.

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Bill Atkins
John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If Xah posts to just one group, on topic, the problem is gone. But Xah > is spamvertizing his website, and hence posts to 5 groups (since I guess > that's a limit GG sets, not Xah), so he doesn't care that a post on > whitespace in Python ends up in a group

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Mitch
John Bokma wrote: > Mitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> John Bokma wrote: >> [...] >>> You're mistaken. All you need to do is report it. After some time Xah >>> will either walk in line with the rest of the world, or has found >>> somewhere else to yell. As long as it's not my back garden and no

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Ant
Getting eloquent isn't he? ;-) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread John Bokma
fup-to poster "Ant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >> That's because you're clueless. > > Well argued. No really. Not quite sure what you base the allegations > on of course. Like I said, clueless. > John, you're well out of order getting this guy into problems with his > ISP.

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Eli Gottlieb
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > John Bokma wrote: > >>"Ant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>I have no particular affinity for Xah's views, but what does get up my >>>nose is usenet Nazism. >> >>That's because you're clueless. >> >>-- >>John MexIT: http://johnbokma.com/

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread George Sakkis
Robert Boyd wrote: > On 24 May 2006 08:29:57 -0700, Rune Strand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I can just declare my support. Reading Mr. Bokmas comments below [*] > > certainly makes my suport stronger. > > > > I sent an email in support of Xah, which I wouldn't have bothered to > do had I

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread John Bokma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Both johnbokma.com and castleamber.com are hosted by seagull.net. Here > is a link to their TOS: > > http://www.seagull.net/tos.html > > Who can come up with the most violations that John is committing on > this thread? I count 4. Be my guest: hostmaster at seagull

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread John Bokma
Bill Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Life is short, John Bokma. There are more important things in the > world than tattling on Xah to his host. Maybe you can start > experiencing them Maybe check out my site first before you make another silly remark. Typically that (almost?) everybody de

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Ant
John Bokma wrote: > That's because you're clueless. Well argued. No really. Not quite sure what you base the allegations on of course. John, you're well out of order getting this guy into problems with his ISP. Ken Tilton has it spot on - if everyone who wasn't interested in what he had to say ig

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Stormcoder
Five is not excessive when they are on topic and they are on topic. If you don't like his posts ignore them, killfile them, whatever. I took the time to write his ISP a supporting email because it is important to keep unpopular speech, even more than popular speech, free. Censoring usenet serves no

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Robert Boyd
On 24 May 2006 08:29:57 -0700, Rune Strand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can just declare my support. Reading Mr. Bokmas comments below [*] > certainly makes my suport stronger. > I sent an email in support of Xah, which I wouldn't have bothered to do had I not read the rapid-fire posts from B

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Timo Stamm
John Bokma schrieb: > Timo Stamm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Tim N. van der Leeuw schrieb: > [...] >>> but since I've stopped following threads originated by him >> That's all you need to do if you are not interested in his posts. > > You're mistaken. All you need to do is report it. Why the

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread olsongt
John Bokma wrote: > "Ant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have no particular affinity for Xah's views, but what does get up my > > nose is usenet Nazism. > > That's because you're clueless. > > -- > John MexIT: http://johnbokma.com/mexit/ >

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Rune Strand
Xah Lee wrote: > I'm sorry to trouble everyone. But as you might know, due to my > controversial writings and style, recently John Bokma lobbied people to > complaint to my web hosting provider. After exchanging a few emails, my > web hosting provider sent me a 30-day account cancellation notice l

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Bill Atkins
John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Ben Bullock wrote: >>> "Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> If you believe this lobbying to my webhosting provider is unjust, please write to my web hosting prov

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread John Bokma
Mitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: > [...] >> You're mistaken. All you need to do is report it. After some time Xah >> will either walk in line with the rest of the world, or has found >> somewhere else to yell. As long as it's not my back garden and not >> around 4AM, I am ok wi

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread John Bokma
"Ant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have no particular affinity for Xah's views, but what does get up my > nose is usenet Nazism. That's because you're clueless. -- John MexIT: http://johnbokma.com/mexit/ personal page: http://john

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Bill Atkins
Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > C'mon, John Bokma (and everyone else dumb enough to crosspost their > shushing to every group on the crosspost list -- why do they do that? > So Xah will hear them six times? No, they want everyone to see how > witty they are when they tell Xah off. Now /th

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Mitch
John Bokma wrote: [...] > You're mistaken. All you need to do is report it. After some time Xah will > either walk in line with the rest of the world, or has found somewhere > else to yell. As long as it's not my back garden and not around 4AM, I am > ok with it. > Walk in line with the rest o

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread John Bokma
Eli Gottlieb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who reads blogs? They're well known for housing crackpots far worse > than Xah, and I estimate he doesn't want to associate himself with that > sort. Yup, he seems to be quite happy as a Usenet Kook -- John Bokma Freelance software developer

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread John Bokma
Timo Stamm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tim N. van der Leeuw schrieb: >> Perhaps he's not crossing boundaries of free speech, but he's >> repeatedly crossing boundaries on usenet nettiquette, even though >> repeatedly he's being asked not to do so. > > And repeatedly, others have encouraged him

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread John Bokma
Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ben Bullock wrote: >> "Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> If you believe this lobbying to my webhosting provider is unjust, >>> please write to my web hosting provider [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> Why don't you j

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread John Bokma
"Dag Sunde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i melding > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> I'm sorry to trouble everyone. But as you might know, due to my >> controversial writings and style, recently John Bokma lobbied people to >> complaint to my web hosting provider. Af

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread John Bokma
fup to poster "Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm sorry to trouble everyone. But as you might know, due to my > controversial writings and style, You're mistaken. Not that I or many other people with some brains had expected anything else. The problem is that you crosspost to 5 groups (5

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Claudio Grondi
Tim N. van der Leeuw wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>I agree there are limits to you right to free speech, but I believe Xah >>Lee is not crossing >>any boundaries. If he starts taking over newspapers and TV stations be >>sure to notify me, >>I might revise my position. >>Immanuel > > > Pe

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread bradb
> C'mon, John Bokma (and everyone else dumb enough to crosspost their > shushing to every group on the crosspost list -- why do they do that? So > Xah will hear them six times? No, they want everyone to see how witty > they are when they tell Xah off. Now /that/ is spam) is the problem. > > kenny

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Mitch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Xah Lee schreef: > [...] >> >> If you believe this lobbying to my webhosting provider is unjust, >> please write to my web hosting provider [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Your help is appreciated. Thank you. >> >>Xah >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ∑ http://xahlee.org/ > > We

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Ken Tilton
Ben Bullock wrote: > "Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> If you believe this lobbying to my webhosting provider is unjust, >> please write to my web hosting provider [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Why don't you just change your provider? It would take less ti

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Ken Tilton
Tim N. van der Leeuw wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>I agree there are limits to you right to free speech, but I believe Xah >>Lee is not crossing >>any boundaries. If he starts taking over newspapers and TV stations be >>sure to notify me, >>I might revise my position. >>Immanuel > > >

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Eli Gottlieb
Tim N. van der Leeuw wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>I agree there are limits to you right to free speech, but I believe Xah >>Lee is not crossing >>any boundaries. If he starts taking over newspapers and TV stations be >>sure to notify me, >>I might revise my position. >>Immanuel > > > Pe

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread George Sakkis
Alan wrote: > With apologies to Voltaire: > If Xah Lee did not exist, it would be necessary for John Bokma to > invent him. > > Xah and Bokma are both idiots, they truly deserve each other. The > sooner you killfile these two clowns, the happier you'll be. Well said, I couldn't put it better. -

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread SamFeltus
I was considering opening an account with Dreamhost. Can't say I agree with all of Xah's writings, but they often raise important points. Dreamhost is a company I will never spend money with. Usenet is full of narrow minded group thinking that needs to be questioned. -- http://mail.python.org/m

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread olsongt
Tim N. van der Leeuw wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I agree there are limits to you right to free speech, but I believe Xah > > Lee is not crossing > > any boundaries. If he starts taking over newspapers and TV stations be > > sure to notify me, > > I might revise my position. > > Immanuel

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Ben Bullock
"Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you believe this lobbying to my webhosting provider is unjust, > please write to my web hosting provider [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why don't you just change your provider? It would take less time than this. -- http://mail.pytho

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Timo Stamm
Tim N. van der Leeuw schrieb: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I agree there are limits to you right to free speech, but I believe Xah >> Lee is not crossing >> any boundaries. If he starts taking over newspapers and TV stations be >> sure to notify me, >> I might revise my position. >> Immanuel > >

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Tim N. van der Leeuw
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I agree there are limits to you right to free speech, but I believe Xah > Lee is not crossing > any boundaries. If he starts taking over newspapers and TV stations be > sure to notify me, > I might revise my position. > Immanuel Perhaps he's not crossing boundaries of f

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Alex Hunsley
Xah Lee wrote: > I'm sorry to trouble everyone. But as you might know, due to my > controversial writings and style, recently John Bokma lobbied people to > complaint to my web hosting provider. After exchanging a few emails, my > web hosting provider sent me a 30-day account cancellation notice la

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