"Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "P.L.Hayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> I agree. I have already written to Dreamhost and I hope more people >> will do so. I have found some of what has been posted here quite >> astonishing and the actions of certain people to be reprehensible: by >> far the most serious violation of netiquette I see here is this >> thoroughly wrong-headed campaign to try to censor Xah by appealing to >> his service provider. > > No one that I know of is trying to censor Xah. It's the form his postings > take that cause problems, not the content. >
Having read through the threads in question, I cannot agree on either point. If form alone had been the problem, Xah's sporadic cross-posting to a handful of related newsgroups would presumably be the sole cause for complaint and yet that hardly seems to me to justify complaining to his ISP or to Google, let alone to his _web_hosting company. But that is not what has happened anyway: complainers have referred to Xah's posts as being off-topic - in some cases, "drivel" and "rants" - an opinion not shared by many more than half those who have posted to the threads. Fair enough - one is entitled to one's opinion - but it would be a mischaracterisation of what the complainers have actually written in their posts and have claimed to have written in their complaints to Dreamhost to say that form alone has been the issue. If you believe that what Xah has done was such a serious breach of netiquette and caused such serious problems that the appropriate course of action was to demand that his ISP and even his website host deny him access to the Internet, then having done so would not, strictly speaking, have been an attempt to censor Xah. But to maintain such a premise is, as others have opined, rather eccentric and overblown and if those who have written complaints about Xah to his ISP or to his website host have not deliberately meant to censor him, that is beside the point and no good reason to support their actions. I find it rather difficult anyway to believe that there is no deliberate attempt at censorship in the light of threads such as this one: http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.lang.perl.misc/browse_frm/thread/8fec378b74263f25/29458dc7da626a27?lnk=st&q=Bokma+Xah+Lee&rnum=3#29458dc7da626a27 "I rather account kill by ISP :-D." >> In my opinion it is that, not anything Xah has >> done, which comes any where near deserving any sort of termination of >> access to the Internet. > > Bringing facts to their attention? If Dreamhost has given him notice of > termination, it's for violating their policies, not because people have told > them "I don't like him". Exactly. Such underhand and manipulative behaviour is what makes this whole business so distasteful and why I find the actions of those who have tried to remedy perceived 'problems' in this way quite despicable. >> Since Xah's website is hosted by Dreamhost, >> the unwarranted censorship will be compounded by an act of gratuitous >> vandalism, potentially depriving people of useful resources: > > He's free to find another ISP and *not* violate their rules. Oh! Well that's okay then. Paul. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
