Hi,
On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 11:37 AM Mohammed nour Koujan
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Please don't post screenshots - copy and paste the errors from your machine...
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Keith Thompson wrote at 2023-1-6 17:02 -0800:
>September Skeen writes:
>> I was wondering if I could be in your group
>
>This is an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup.
In fact, there are several access channels, Usenet newsgroup is
one of them.
Another channel is the python-list mailing list.
You can
September Skeen writes:
> I was wondering if I could be in your group
This is an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup. It doesn't have members, just
people who post to it. If you want to discuss Python, just post. (Take
a look around first to get an idea how how thinks work.)
If you see a response fr
Thanks, I'll check it out.
On Sat, May 15, 2021, 1:54 AM Mats Wichmann wrote:
> On 5/14/21 2:55 AM, Payal Singh wrote:
> >
>
> it's easier if you put that in the message body, not the subject line.
>
> if you're getting the repair/modify/uninstall dialog, it means you're
> running the installer
On 5/14/21 2:55 AM, Payal Singh wrote:
it's easier if you put that in the message body, not the subject line.
if you're getting the repair/modify/uninstall dialog, it means you're
running the installer again (that's its job, if already installed, to
somehow modify the installation). Don't
Damla Pehlivan writes:
> Dear Python Team,
[...]
> I am writing this mail quite emotionally. I asked a new "friend" for help,
> but he laughed. He said it was because I am a girl and this is why I could
> not do it. I want to prove to him and the whole world that I can do it. I
> have a lesson n
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 18:57:04 +0300, Damla Pehlivan wrote:
[snip]
> . . . I downloaded the python program, and I
> also downloaded Pycharm to use it. To be fair, I do not know what I am
> doing, but I made some progress last night and I was happy about it. Today
> when I came back from university
Hi,
Are you trying to run your program, PyCharm, or the python console?
Thank you.
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 12:01 PM Damla Pehlivan wrote:
>
> Dear Python Team,
> First, I would like to introduce myself. My name is Damla Pehlivan, and I
> live in Ankara/Turkey. I am a university student at Ankar
Hi,
On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 9:02 PM Sayth Renshaw wrote:
>
> On Saturday, 6 April 2019 08:21:51 UTC+11, maak khan wrote:
> > i need your help guys .. plz
Are you trying to create a teaching software?
Thank you.
>
> With?
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On Saturday, 6 April 2019 08:21:51 UTC+11, maak khan wrote:
> i need your help guys .. plz
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Of course I forgot the static page generator program read (or listen)
direct text of the link at the code follows
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/amirouche/xp-maji/master/maji.py
xp is for experience :smallsmile:
I am a recovering lisp dev, so all my new programs are small. If you want a
pure P
Le mar. 24 juil. 2018 à 22:10, Daniel Perry a
écrit :
> Hi there everyone, my name is Daniel Perry
Hello!
> and I'm a totally blind new Python user.
Ok!
> I've only just recently started picking up python and playing with it and
> I intend on building some unique audio computer games for
Hi Daniel,
I'm unsure how well your support tools will work with quoted emails. I'm
going to place my answer below your text according to the convention on
this list.
On 24/07/2018 21:09, Daniel Perry wrote:
Hi there everyone, my name is Daniel Perry and I'm a totally blind
new Python user.
On 24/07/18 21:09, Daniel Perry wrote:
Also, When I opened up the first message that I had gotten from this list, I
got a prompt that popped up asking if I wanted to make windows live mail my
default news client and I answered no. From that point on, I've been getting an
error message and the
On 6/12/2017 2:18 PM, jlada...@itu.edu wrote:
On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 10:40:25 AM UTC-7, Forsaken uttax wrote:
hello!!
I was trying to install Tensorflow on my laptop with Gpu support
so I Installed python the one in the screenshot below, and I put in pip
Tensorflow Install comma
On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 10:40:25 AM UTC-7, Forsaken uttax wrote:
> hello!!
>I was trying to install Tensorflow on my laptop with Gpu support
> so I Installed python the one in the screenshot below, and I put in pip
> Tensorflow Install command and it says syntax error so i try to u
Hello,
you can refactor your code a little bit and learn more about exceptions:
def get_numbers():
first = None
second = None
while True:
try:
if first is None:
first = int(input('Enter your first number: '))
if second is None:
On 08/06/17 00:56, CB wrote:
Hi everyone,
I am taking a python class and I'm stuck in an exercise.
what am i doing wrong? Can anyone try to run it? Thanks so much!
It helps if you describe what is going wrong. Not just us, either;
"Teddy Bear Debugging", explaining to a colleague (or indeed
On Thu, 8 Jun 2017 09:56 am, CB wrote:
> Can anyone try to run it?
Yes, you can.
Doctor to patient: "So, what seems to be the problem?"
Patient: "You're the doctor, you tell me."
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“Cheer up,” they said, “things could be worse.” So I cheered up, and sure
enough, things got worse.
On 2017-06-08 00:56, CB wrote:
Hi everyone,
I am taking a python class and I'm stuck in an exercise.
what am i doing wrong? Can anyone try to run it? Thanks so much!
#Description:Input validation and while loops.
import random
def main(): #main function need in all programs for automated test
On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:53:45 -0500, Larry Martell wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:49 AM, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 02:28 pm, rubengoods...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> > I am having trouble installing the Python software.
>>
>> Make sure your computer is turned on. I can't t
On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 09:53 am, Larry Martell wrote:
> Many years ago (c. 1985) I was at a job interview and the interviewer
> asked me what the first thing I would do when I am presented with a new
> problem that I had to code up. I gave all sorts of answers like 'do a top
> down analysis of the pr
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:49 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 02:28 pm, rubengoods...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > I am having trouble installing the Python software.
>
> Make sure your computer is turned on. I can't tell you how many times I've
> tried to install Python, and I type com
On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 02:28 pm, rubengoods...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I am having trouble installing the Python software.
Make sure your computer is turned on. I can't tell you how many times I've
tried to install Python, and I type commands and click icons and nothing
happens. It's really frustrating w
On 11/03/2016 03:28, rubengoodson3--- via Python-list wrote:
I am having trouble installing the Python software.
Sent from Windows Mail
This type of question has been asked and answered repeatedly over the
last few months so I suggest that you search the archives for your
precise problem.
Check your PATH environment variable.
On 16/01/16 04:41 PM, Hmood Js wrote:
cmd won't recognize python at all I've checked several times , and I don't
understand what's wrong
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Environment variables pointing to c:\python..?
(needs to point to actual installation directory)
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."
On 2016-01-16 11:41 PM, Hmood Js wrote:
cmd won't recognize python at all I've checked s
This is likely due to the fact that python.exe is not in PATH. Try
reinstalling Python with this option or adding it yourself.
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Hi,
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Hmood Js wrote:
> cmd won't recognize python at all I've checked several times , and I don't
> understand what's wrong
What does this mean exactly?
Can you give an example?
Thank you.
>
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On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Seung Kim wrote:
> See message below.
>
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Seung Kim wrote:
>
>> I would like to have Python 3.5.1 MSI installer files for both 32-bit and
>> 64-bit so that I can deploy the software on managed computers on campus.
>>
>> When I ran
See message below.
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Seung Kim wrote:
> I would like to have Python 3.5.1 MSI installer files for both 32-bit and
> 64-bit so that I can deploy the software on managed computers on campus.
>
> When I ran the silent install command line on python-3.5.1.exe, the
> re
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:10 AM, moon khondkar wrote:
> Hello I have problem with python installation.I downloaded python 3.5 but I
> cannot use it on my computer.I can not open the idle. I get something like
> saying "users\local settings\Application
> data\programs\python\python35-32\pythonw
> Hello I have problem with python installation.I downloaded python 3.5 but
> I cannot use it on my computer.I can not open the idle. I get something like
> saying
> "users\local settings\Application data\programs\python\python35-32\pythonw.exe
> is not valid win32 application. Thanks that will be
On 19/09/2015 18:31, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 16:10:55 +0100, moon khondkar
declaimed the following:
Hello I have problem with python installation.I downloaded python 3.5 but I cannot
use it on my computer.I can not open the idle. I get something like saying
"users\local
Dennis Lee Bieber writes:
> While Windows likes to stuff things in directories with spaces in them,
> I find third-party applications (especially those that are created for
> multiple OSes) work better when installed in directories that have no
> spaces...
Hey, don't put this on being creat
On 9/17/2015 8:10 AM, moon khondkar wrote:
Hello I have problem with python installation.I downloaded python 3.5 but I cannot
use it on my computer.I can not open the idle. I get something like saying
"users\local settings\Application data\programs\python\python35-32\pythonw.exe
is not valid w
On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 10:37:04 AM UTC+5:30, Phuong Phan wrote:
> Hi Python community,
Hi Phuong Phan
> I am new to Python and currently taking one online course of computer science
> and programming using Python. I really like Python because it is simple and
> clarity but powerful t
On May 31, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Anders Johansen wrote:
> Den søndag den 31. maj 2015 kl. 16.22.10 UTC+2 skrev Cem Karan:
>> On May 31, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Anders Johansen wrote:
>>
>>> Hi my name is Anders I am from Denmark, and I am new to programming and
>>> python.
>>>
>>> Currently, I am doi
Den søndag den 31. maj 2015 kl. 16.22.10 UTC+2 skrev Cem Karan:
> On May 31, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Anders Johansen wrote:
>
> > Hi my name is Anders I am from Denmark, and I am new to programming and
> > python.
> >
> > Currently, I am doing the codecademy.com python course, but sometime I feel
>
On May 31, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Anders Johansen wrote:
> Hi my name is Anders I am from Denmark, and I am new to programming and
> python.
>
> Currently, I am doing the codecademy.com python course, but sometime I feel
> that the course advances to fast and I lack repeating (practicing) some of
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 5:36:02 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> One thing that I really like doing with my Python students (full
>> disclosure: I'm a mentor with www.thinkful.com and am thus at times
>> paid to help people learn
On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 5:36:02 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> One thing that I really like doing with my Python students (full
> disclosure: I'm a mentor with www.thinkful.com and am thus at times
> paid to help people learn Python) is some form of screen-sharing, so I
> can watch hi
On 1/24/2015 7:12 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 1/24/2015 6:53 PM, Christopher J. Pisz wrote:
I am trying to help a buddy out. I am a C++ on Windows guy. This buddy
of mine is learning Python at work on a Mac. I figured I could
contribute with non language specific questions and such.
When learning
On 1/24/2015 6:53 PM, Christopher J. Pisz wrote:
I am trying to help a buddy out. I am a C++ on Windows guy. This buddy
of mine is learning Python at work on a Mac. I figured I could
contribute with non language specific questions and such.
When learning any new language, I said, the first step
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Christopher J. Pisz
wrote:
> So my buddy creates opens the IDE they gave at the workplace, creates a new
> project, adds a demo.py file, writes one line : print "Hello World", hits
> Run in the IDE and indeed the display is shown at the bottom when it
> executes.
Chris Angelico :
> On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> I believe passwords themselves are the wrong solution. I believe in a
>> physical, government-issue object capable of challenge-response. It
>> can then be beefed up with extra measures depending on the need.
>
> I can't
Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Michael Ströder :
>
>> Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>>> I believe in a
>>> physical, government-issue object
>>
>> Did you forget the smiley? Or where were you during the last 1,5 years?
>
> You can juggle the issues all you want. In the end, there's
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 2:48 AM, Michael Ströder wrote:
>> For instance, someone could join my wifi
>> network - all they need is the WPA2 PSK, which is well known around
>> the place - and use/abuse our internet connection; but they couldn't
>> access my PostgreSQL databases, because the firewall
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Michael Torrie :
>
>> Most password policies are the wrong solution.
>
> I believe passwords themselves are the wrong solution. I believe in a
> physical, government-issue object capable of challenge-response. It can
> then be beefed up with
Michael Ströder :
> Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> I believe in a
>> physical, government-issue object
>
> Did you forget the smiley? Or where were you during the last 1,5 years?
You can juggle the issues all you want. In the end, there's no escaping
the governments' underw
Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 12:35 AM, Michael Ströder
> wrote:
>> Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> Want security?
>>> Push the encryption and authentication down to a lower layer, and save
>>> yourself the trouble.
>>
>> Yes. And now for the next level: How to prevent unauthorized ma
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 12:35 AM, Michael Ströder wrote:
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>> Want security?
>> Push the encryption and authentication down to a lower layer, and save
>> yourself the trouble.
>
> Yes. And now for the next level: How to prevent unauthorized machines to
> connect to your netwo
Chris Angelico wrote:
> Want security?
> Push the encryption and authentication down to a lower layer, and save
> yourself the trouble.
Yes. And now for the next level: How to prevent unauthorized machines to
connect to your network…
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Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> I believe in a
> physical, government-issue object
Did you forget the smiley? Or where were you during the last 1,5 years?
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Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Mark Lawrence wrote:
>
>> Bah humbug, this has reminded me of doing secure work whereby each
>> individual had two passwords, both of which had to be changed every
>> thirty days, and rules were enforced so you couldn't just increment the
>> number at the end of a word or
Michael Torrie wrote:
> Like many of you I use a password manager these days. It's pretty
> slick. But really it shows the absurdity of the situation. Instead of
> passwords we should all just use private/public keypairs and store the
> private keys in a digital wallet. Forget this password gar
In article <54bb2c5f$0$12977$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>,
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> You know that two-factor authentication doesn't offer any real security
> against Man In The Middle attacks?
The fact that TFA doesn't solve all problems doesn't change the fact
that it solves some of th
Michael Torrie :
> Most password policies are the wrong solution.
I believe passwords themselves are the wrong solution. I believe in a
physical, government-issue object capable of challenge-response. It can
then be beefed up with extra measures depending on the need.
Marko
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On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Michael Torrie wrote:
> Like many of you I use a password manager these days. It's pretty
> slick. But really it shows the absurdity of the situation. Instead of
> passwords we should all just use private/public keypairs and store the
> private keys in a digital
On 01/17/2015 05:04 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> Related to that is another reason I've heard: if your password is
> figured out by some means other than hash theft [1], there's a maximum
> of N days to make use of it. But let's face it, if someone gets hold
> of one of your accounts, it won't take
>
>
> Password maximum age is the wrong solution to a few problems, and is
> itself a problem. Don't do it.
>
> Bruce Schneier (mostly) agrees with you:
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/11/changing_passwo.html.
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On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> (I am very cynical about most of the "security features" the banks are
> pushing for, since in my opinion they are more about giving the banks
> plausible deniablity so they can push responsibility for security breaches
> onto the customer.
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Tim Chase
wrote:
> You think that's bad, one million Google Authenticator 2-factor
> verification codes were leaked:
>
> https://twitter.com/paulmutton/status/509991378647277568
>
> Those hackers are a wily bunch. ;-)
http://torrent-city.net/download/Li/List-of-A
On 2015-01-17 22:18, Roy Smith wrote:
> Tell me about it. I have an E-Trade ATM card. When I first got
> it, I set it up with a 6 digit PIN. I was shocked to discover some
> time later that it actually only looks at the first 4 digits. And,
> no, I'm not talking *characters*, I'm talking *digit
Roy Smith wrote:
> In article <54bb1c83$0$12979$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>,
> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
>> Even that doesn't protect you, because your security is controlled by
>> websites and banks etc. with stupid security policies. E.g. I am forced
>> to deal with one bank that uses
In article <54bb1c83$0$12979$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>,
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Even that doesn't protect you, because your security is controlled by
> websites and banks etc. with stupid security policies. E.g. I am forced to
> deal with one bank that uses a cryptographic key to sign
Albert van der Horst wrote:
> In article , wrote:
>>Michael Torrie wrote:
>>> On 01/17/2015 07:51 AM, Albert van der Horst wrote:
>>> > In article ,
>>> > Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> But sure. If you want to cut out complication, dispense with user
>>> >> accounts altogether an
On 01/17/2015 11:47 AM, Michael Ströder wrote:
>> sudo makes administrators careless, lazy and it is not simple at all.
>
> Admins must have separate accounts with separate credentials for
> administrative work and must be careful when using an administrative account.
Right. This is not a bad id
Sorry for necro.
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
>> Just to be clear, writing to sys.stdout works fine in Idle.
> import sys; sys.stdout.write('hello ')
>> hello #2.7
>>
>> In 3.4, the number of chars? bytes? is r
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> The merely poor reason given by the more thoughtful sys admins is, if the
> password hashes get stolen, the hacker has a maximum of N days (and
> possibly less) to crack the hashes and recover the passwords before they
> get changed. That'
Mark Lawrence wrote:
> Bah humbug, this has reminded me of doing secure work whereby each
> individual had two passwords, both of which had to be changed every
> thirty days, and rules were enforced so you couldn't just increment the
> number at the end of a word or similar.
I hate and despise sy
alb...@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) wrote:
> In article , wrote:
>> Michael Torrie wrote:
>>> On 01/17/2015 07:51 AM, Albert van der Horst wrote:
In article ,
Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> But sure. If you want to cut out complication, dispense with user
>
On 17/01/2015 16:47, c...@isbd.net wrote:
Michael Torrie wrote:
On 01/17/2015 07:51 AM, Albert van der Horst wrote:
In article ,
Chris Angelico wrote:
But sure. If you want to cut out complication, dispense with user
accounts altogether and run everything as root. That's WAY simpler!
I
In article , wrote:
>Michael Torrie wrote:
>> On 01/17/2015 07:51 AM, Albert van der Horst wrote:
>> > In article ,
>> > Chris Angelico wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> But sure. If you want to cut out complication, dispense with user
>> >> accounts altogether and run everything as root. That's WAY si
Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 01/17/2015 07:51 AM, Albert van der Horst wrote:
> > In article ,
> > Chris Angelico wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> But sure. If you want to cut out complication, dispense with user
> >> accounts altogether and run everything as root. That's WAY simpler!
> >
> > I didn't excep
On 01/17/2015 07:51 AM, Albert van der Horst wrote:
> In article ,
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>>
>> But sure. If you want to cut out complication, dispense with user
>> accounts altogether and run everything as root. That's WAY simpler!
>
> I didn't except this strawman argument from you.
> Of c
Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 1:51 AM, Albert van der Horst
> wrote:
> > In article ,
> > Chris Angelico wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>But sure. If you want to cut out complication, dispense with user
> >>accounts altogether and run everything as root. That's WAY simpler!
> >
> > I did
In article ,
Chris Angelico wrote:
>On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Steve Hayes wrote:
>> On 08 Jan 2015 12:43:33 GMT, alb...@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst)
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I don't trust sudo because it is too complicated.
>>>(To the point that I removed it from my machine.)
>>>I do
>
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 1:51 AM, Albert van der Horst
wrote:
> In article ,
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>>
>>But sure. If you want to cut out complication, dispense with user
>>accounts altogether and run everything as root. That's WAY simpler!
>
> I didn't except this strawman argument from you.
In article ,
Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>But sure. If you want to cut out complication, dispense with user
>accounts altogether and run everything as root. That's WAY simpler!
I didn't except this strawman argument from you.
Of course you need a distinction between doing system things as
root, and
On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 3:47:27 AM UTC-8, mubarak idris wrote:
> Please how can I make an .exe executable app out of my python script easily
http://www.py2exe.org/
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On 2015-01-08, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 01/08/2015 10:02 AM, Steve Hayes wrote:
>> On 08 Jan 2015 12:43:33 GMT, alb...@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst)
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't trust sudo because it is too complicated. (To the point that
>>> I removed it from my machine.) I do
>>
>> H
On 01/08/2015 10:02 AM, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On 08 Jan 2015 12:43:33 GMT, alb...@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst)
> wrote:
>
>> I don't trust sudo because it is too complicated.
>> (To the point that I removed it from my machine.)
>> I do
>
> How do you do that?
>
> I avoided Ubuntu bec
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On 08 Jan 2015 12:43:33 GMT, alb...@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst)
> wrote:
>
>>I don't trust sudo because it is too complicated.
>>(To the point that I removed it from my machine.)
>>I do
>
> How do you do that?
>
> I avoided Ubuntu
On 08 Jan 2015 12:43:33 GMT, alb...@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst)
wrote:
>I don't trust sudo because it is too complicated.
>(To the point that I removed it from my machine.)
>I do
How do you do that?
I avoided Ubuntu because it had sudo, and then discovered that Fedora had it
as wel
On Thu, 08 Jan 2015 16:31:22 +0200, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> alister :
>
>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2015 16:06:16 +0200, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>>> An administrator doesn't need the users' passwords for anything but
>>> should be assumed to know them.
>>
>> The administrator may be able to change them but h
alister :
> On Thu, 08 Jan 2015 16:06:16 +0200, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> An administrator doesn't need the users' passwords for anything but
>> should be assumed to know them.
>
> The administrator may be able to change them but he should NEVER know
> them (or need to)!
When you are under an adm
On Thu, 08 Jan 2015 16:06:16 +0200, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Chris Angelico :
>
>> With sudo, you get MUCH finer control. I can grant some user the power
>> to run "sudo eject sr0", but no other commands. I can permit someone to
>> execute any of a large number of commands, all individually logged
Chris Angelico wrote:
> With sudo, you get MUCH finer control.
But it's very hard, almost impossible, to really implement fine-grained
control with sudo. Too many programs provide shell exits.
Well, it's off-topic here.
How about taking this to news:comp.security.unix ?
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Chris Angelico :
> With sudo, you get MUCH finer control. I can grant some user the power
> to run "sudo eject sr0", but no other commands. I can permit someone
> to execute any of a large number of commands, all individually logged.
I can't remember ever having a need for that. I sometimes use s
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Chris Angelico wrote:
>On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Albert van der Horst
> wrote:
>> I don't trust sudo because it is too complicated.
>> (To the point that I removed it from my machine.)
>> I do
>> su
>> ..
>> #
>> su nobody
>>
>> Who needs sudo?
>
>With sudo, you get MUCH finer
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Albert van der Horst
wrote:
> I don't trust sudo because it is too complicated.
> (To the point that I removed it from my machine.)
> I do
> su
> ..
> #
> su nobody
>
> Who needs sudo?
With sudo, you get MUCH finer control. I can grant some user the power
to run "
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Chris Angelico wrote:
>On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
>> Just to be clear, writing to sys.stdout works fine in Idle.
> import sys; sys.stdout.write('hello ')
>> hello #2.7
>>
>> In 3.4, the number of chars? bytes? is returned and written also.
>>
>> Whether
On Fri, 26 Dec 2014 15:13:25 +1100, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Deep in the brain, well underneath the level of modern languages and
> consciousness, there is a deeper "machine language" of the brain. If you
> can write instructions in this machine language, you can control
> people's brains. Back
alex23 wrote:
> On 24/12/2014 2:20 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> And even _with_ all the technical jibber-jabber, none of it explained
>> or justified the whole "writing a virus to infect the brain through
>> the optic nerve" thing which might just have well been magick and
>> witches.
>
> While I
On 24/12/2014 9:50 PM, alister wrote:
what feels like 3 or 4 chapters in & it is still trying to set the scene,
an exercise in stylish writing with very little content so far.
even early scifi written for magazines on a per word basis were not this
excessive (because if they were they would proba
On 24/12/2014 2:20 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
And even _with_ all the technical jibber-jabber, none of it explained
or justified the whole "writing a virus to infect the brain through
the optic nerve" thing which might just have well been magick and
witches.
While I love SNOW CRASH, I do think it
On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 16:20:10 +, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2014-12-23, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>> Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 12:15 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
If I really didn't trust something, I'd go to AWS and spin up one of
their free-tier micro instances and
Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2014-12-23, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>> Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 12:15 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
If I really didn't trust something, I'd go to AWS and spin up one of
their free-tier micro instances and run it there :-)
>>>
>>> How do yo
Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:50:22 PM UTC+5:30, Grant Edwards wrote:
>>
>> And even _with_ all the technical jibber-jabber, none of it explained
>> or justified the whole "writing a virus to infect the brain through
>> the optic nerve" thing which might just have well been
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