"Michael Sparks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> That said, if you do describe it that way, it'd be more accurate to
> describe
> the python binary as a compiler/runtime rather than interpreter since
> it'd
> be more accurate.
If Java calls its runtime bytecode in
Terry Reedy wrote:
[...]
> I am being picky because various people have claimed that Python suffers
> in popularity because it is known as an 'interpreted language'. So maybe
> advocates should be more careful than we have been to not reinforce the
> misunderstanding.
I sometimes wonder if it mig
"Roy Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Dieter Vanderelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 1 - How does the speed of execution of Perl compares to that of Python?
> To a first-order approximation, Perl and Python run at the same speed.
'Speed of execution' is a fe
Dieter Vanderelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1 - How does the speed of execution of Perl compares to that of Python?
To a first-order approximation, Perl and Python run at the same speed.
They are both interpreted languages with roughly the same kind of control
flow and data structures. The
* Dieter Vanderelst (2005-09-06 18:03 +0100)
> I'm currently comparing Python versus Perl to use in a project that
> involved a lot of text processing. I'm trying to determine what the most
> efficient language would be for our purposes. I have to admit that,
> although
On Wednesday 07 September 2005 04:47 am, Michael Sparks wrote:
> Dieter Vanderelst wrote:
> > I'm currently comparing Python versus Perl to use in a project that
> > involved a lot of text processing. I'm trying to determine what the
> > most efficient language would
Dieter Vanderelst wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I'm currently comparing Python versus Perl to use in a project that
> involved a lot of text processing. I'm trying to determine what the
> most efficient language would be for our purposes. I have to admit
> that, although I
Hi!
> [...]
> 1 - How does the speed of execution of Perl compares to that of Python?
This might not answer your question, but I found "The Computer Language
Shootout Benchmarks" quite interesting (and fun). Python to Perl
comparison can be found at
http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/benchmark.p
I don't have any benchmark/performance data available, so I'll pass on
those questions, but I'll take a stab at the third (being reasonably
fluent in both languages).
On Sep 6, 2005, at 12:03 PM, Dieter Vanderelst wrote:
> 3 - In my opinion Python is very well suited for text processing. Does
>
Dear all,
I'm currently comparing Python versus Perl to use in a project that
involved a lot of text processing. I'm trying to determine what the most
efficient language would be for our purposes. I have to admit that,
although I'm very familiar with Python, I'm complete Pe
"Mauro Cicognini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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>
> Alex Martelli wrote:
>
>> URK -- _my_ feeling is that we have entirely *too many* options
>> for stuff like web application frameworks, GUI toolkits, XML
>> processing,
> ...
>>
>>
>> Alex
>
> I entirely second that.
>
Alex Martelli wrote:
> URK -- _my_ feeling is that we have entirely *too many* options for
> stuff like web application frameworks, GUI toolkits, XML processing,
...
>
>
> Alex
I entirely second that.
More, I'd heartily welcome an authoritative word on which to focus on
for each category... I h
Joe, thanks
Yes, I am on the P4D mailing list :) What you didn't say was that the
"python for delphi" extensions are *awesome*. full two-way communication,
and you get it all by drag&dropping a little component widget onto your
form in the IDE. Amazing.
However...
Dll's can be used by thi
Caleb Hattingh wrote:
As you might imagine, I think about this constantly. However, there
are many other issues that make it complicated, such as having to work
in a team where the average guy knows pascal well (we're just a bunch
of chemical engineers), but has never even heard of python. Plus,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've read some posts on Perl versus Python and studied a bit of my
> Python book.
>
> I'm a software engineer, familiar with C++ objected oriented
> development, but have been using Perl because it is great for pattern
> matching, text processing, and automated testing.
Hi Adam
Thanks for your comments.
> I think the expression you seek is "comparing virtue among whores."
Sure, that's what I was saying, but not quite in as colourfil a manner
:)
> >
> > The problem domains in which I do most of my work (chemical process
> > modelling and simulation) really do
If you give it a good go, you will be amazed at how the text processing
is so much better than Perl's. The same with the object orientation
(what oop in Perl?? none... at least none worth mentioning :-) It's
been said before by many Python users... Python allows newbies to
program and wizards to be
On Tue, 2005-02-08 at 22:44, Caleb Hattingh wrote:
> Hi m
>
> Speed is a contentious issue here. Point is, if you really need raw
> speed, why stop only at Perl and Python? There are plenty of statically
> compiled languages that will produce native binaries.
>
> The relative difference in
You really will have to convince people here that execution speed is a
real issue for your programming task (in order to continue this
discussion). Otherwise the debate will go south real quick.
Keep well
Caleb
On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 12:17:05 -0600, m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Courageous wrote:
Irmen de Jong wrote:
m wrote:
Why do you care?
Have you read http://www.python.org/moin/PythonSpeed ?
--Irmen
i had not read it. thanks for pointing it out!
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http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Hi m
Speed is a contentious issue here. Point is, if you really need raw
speed, why stop only at Perl and Python? There are plenty of statically
compiled languages that will produce native binaries.
The relative difference in speed between Perl and Python, whatever it is,
is completely was
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
> m" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
If Python is better than Perl, I'm curious how really significant
those advantages are ?
>>
>> speedwise, i think perl is faster than python and python performed the
>> slowest as shown in
>> http://www.flat222.org/mac/bench/
>
> if
m wrote:
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
if you use Python mostly to write empty loops, your programming license
should be revoked. the benchmark author seems to have realized that, as
can be seen from the "it's dead" paragraph at the top of the page, which
makes me wonder why you posted this link...
i wa
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
if you use Python mostly to write empty loops, your programming license
should be revoked. the benchmark author seems to have realized that, as
can be seen from the "it's dead" paragraph at the top of the page, which
makes me wonder why you posted this link...
i was trying t
m" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>If Python is better than Perl, I'm curious how really significant
>>>those advantages are ?
>
> speedwise, i think perl is faster than python and python performed the
> slowest as shown in
> http://www.flat222.org/mac/bench/
if you use Python mostly to write emp
Courageous wrote:
If Python is better than Perl, I'm curious how really significant
those advantages are ?
speedwise, i think perl is faster than python and python performed the
slowest as shown in http://www.flat222.org/mac/bench/
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
His survey of programming languages in "The Art of Unix Programming",
available at
http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/taoup/html/languageschapter.html , is
interesting (and biased). Raymond evaluates C, C++, Shell, Perl, Tcl,
Python, Java, and Emacs Lisp.
One part of this
"Alex Martelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> snacktime <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> The one drawback coming from the perl world is that you don't have as
>> many options when it comes stuff like application frameworks, and some
>
> URK -- _my_ feeling is that w
snacktime <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The one drawback coming from the perl world is that you don't have as
> many options when it comes stuff like application frameworks, and some
URK -- _my_ feeling is that we have entirely *too many* options for
stuff like web application frameworks, GUI tool
"EP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There are very very few cases where anyone is going to require
> you to use Python
Conversely, it pays to understand when you are likely to be permitted to
use it (or any new technology), and when you are likely to be forbidden.
Companies are generally the most
[EMAIL PROTECTED] asked
> 3. Perl is installed on our system and a lot of other systems.
> You don't have to make sys admins go out of there way to make it
> available. It's usualy allready there. I also did a search of job
> postings on a popular website. 108 jobs where listed that require
> know
I just recently picked up Python after using perl almost exclusively
for the last 8 years, and the above mentioned article by Eric Raymond
echos my feelings almost exactly.
The one drawback coming from the perl world is that you don't have as
many options when it comes stuff like application frame
Jorgen Grahn wrote:
> > I've read that many people prefer Python and that it is better
than
> > Perl. However, I want to ask a few other questions.
>
> I could go on and on, but this essay by Eric Raymond says it better:
>
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3882
His survey of programming la
Hi Surfunbear
I don't know about the stuff regarding jobs, resumes, etc, but I will tell
you the same thing I tell everyone I meet regarding python:
Set aside a morning, and work through the python tutorial that comes with
the documentation. People like me are going to tell you this and that,
On 6 Feb 2005 05:19:09 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> I'm a software engineer, familiar with C++ objected oriented
> development, but have been using Perl because it is great for pattern
> matching, text processing, and automated testing. Our company is really
> fixated
> If Python is better than Perl, I'm curious how really significant
>those advantages are ?
The main advantage is Python's cleanliness. In Perl, there are so
many different ways of writing a thing, that to be adept in perl,
you have to know them all, otherwise you won't be able to read another
p
Reinhold Birkenfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> > Perl also has excellent pattern matching compared to
> > sed, not sure about how Python measures up,
> > but this seems to make perl ideally suited to text processing.
>
> Python has regular expressions much like Perl. The only difference
Reinhold Birkenfeld wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've read some posts on Perl versus Python and studied a bit of my
Python book.
I'm a software engineer, familiar with C++ objected oriented
development, but have been using Perl because it is great for pattern
matching, text processing, and autom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've read some posts on Perl versus Python and studied a bit of my
> Python book.
>
> I'm a software engineer, familiar with C++ objected oriented
> development, but have been using Perl because it is great for pattern
> matching, text processing, and automated testin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said the following on 2/6/2005 8:19 AM:
I've read some posts on Perl versus Python and studied a bit of my
Python book.
I'm a software engineer, familiar with C++ objected oriented
development, but have been using Perl because it is great for pattern
matching, text processing, a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've read some posts on Perl versus Python and studied a bit of my
> Python book.
>
> I'm a software engineer, familiar with C++ objected oriented
> development, but have been using Perl because it is great for pattern
> matching, text processing, and automated testing
I've read some posts on Perl versus Python and studied a bit of my
Python book.
I'm a software engineer, familiar with C++ objected oriented
development, but have been using Perl because it is great for pattern
matching, text processing, and automated testing. Our company is really
fixated on r
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