On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 14:07:37 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 3/31/2018 11:58 AM, Etienne Robillard wrote:
>
>> Do you really think people in Somalia can afford theses things like in
>> the US?
>
> No, many cannot afford $600 Caddilac-style phones to take 10 megapixel
> pictures and watch UTube vi
On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 10:58:51 -0400, Etienne Robillard wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was just wondering, could the fact that the Python community is
> willing to discontinue using and developing Python 2 softwares, does
> that mean we are stopping to support standard computers and laptops as
> well?
That se
Grant Edwards wrote:
> Etienne Robillard wrote:
>
> > Do you understand that a modern mobile device typically
> > require a Internet subscription and an additional
> > subscription for the smart phone?
>
> Huh? What is "an internet subscription"? Why would you
> need two of them if all you have
On 3/31/2018 11:58 AM, Etienne Robillard wrote:
Do you really think people in Somalia can afford theses things like in
the US?
No, many cannot afford $600 Caddilac-style phones to take 10 megapixel
pictures and watch UTube videos. Instead they buy $100 VWBug-style
phones that let them get c
On 2018-03-31, Etienne Robillard wrote:
> Are you trolling? Do you understand that a modern mobile device
> typically require a Internet subscription and an additional subscription
> for the smart phone?
Huh? What is "an internet subscription"?
Why would you need two of them if all you have
On Mar 31, 2018 09:58, "Etienne Robillard" wrote:
Le 2018-03-31 à 11:40, Michael Torrie a écrit :
> On 03/31/2018 08:58 AM, Etienne Robillard wrote:
>
>> I was just wondering, could the fact that the Python community is
>> willing to discontinue using and developing Python 2 softwares, does
>>
På Sat, 31 Mar 2018 11:58:39 -0400
Etienne Robillard skrev:
> Are you trolling? Do you understand that a modern mobile device
> typically require a Internet subscription and an additional subscription
> for the smart phone?
I think the question is why you equate python3 with the need for inte
On 31/03/2018 16:58, Etienne Robillard wrote:
Le 2018-03-31 à 11:40, Michael Torrie a écrit :
On 03/31/2018 08:58 AM, Etienne Robillard wrote:
I was just wondering, could the fact that the Python community is
willing to discontinue using and developing Python 2 softwares, does
that mean we
On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:58 AM, Etienne Robillard wrote:
>
>
> Le 2018-03-31 à 11:40, Michael Torrie a écrit :
>>
>> On 03/31/2018 08:58 AM, Etienne Robillard wrote:
>>>
>>> I was just wondering, could the fact that the Python community is
>>> willing to discontinue using and developing Python 2 s
Le 2018-03-31 à 11:40, Michael Torrie a écrit :
On 03/31/2018 08:58 AM, Etienne Robillard wrote:
I was just wondering, could the fact that the Python community is
willing to discontinue using and developing Python 2 softwares, does
that mean we are stopping to support standard computers and
On 03/31/2018 08:58 AM, Etienne Robillard wrote:
> I was just wondering, could the fact that the Python community is
> willing to discontinue using and developing Python 2 softwares, does
> that mean we are stopping to support standard computers and laptops
> as well?
I've tried several times bu
Hi,
I was just wondering, could the fact that the Python community is
willing to discontinue using and developing Python 2 softwares, does
that mean we are stopping to support standard computers and laptops as well?
Furthermore, does it bother you to develop code primarly oriented
towards mo
On Saturday 31 March 2018 10:16:13 Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:29 AM, Rick Johnson
>
> wrote:
> > On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 8:59:16 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >> Wanna provide some competing information showing that other
> >> languages are more used?
> >
> > Chris, her
On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:29 AM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 8:59:16 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> Wanna provide some competing information showing that other
>> languages are more used?
>
> Chris, here is how debate works:
>
> PersonA asserts X.
>
> PersonB dem
On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 11:29 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> Under no circumstance is PersonB required to prove PersonA'a
> assertions. The onerous is on PersonA.
Assertion: Rick doesn't know what "onerous" means.
Under no circumstance is Rick required to prove me right. But he
obliged anyway. Very k
On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 8:59:16 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
[...]
> You can pooh-pooh any statistic.
Yeah, except the ones supported by actual _facts_.
> So far, though, you have provided NO statistics of your
> own, just your own gut feeling.
Uh huh. And what do you call drawing naiv
On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 12:39:48 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Paul Rubin :
>> All the scripts that say #!/usr/bin/python at the top will still use
>> python2.
>
> Which is how it should be till the end of times.
Don't be silly -- they should use Python 1, of course, as nature
intended. In 20 year
On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 12:32:31 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Paul Rubin :
>
>> Marko Rauhamaa writes:
>>> Yes, RHEL, CentOS and OracleLinux still only support Python2. It may
>>> be another year before Python3 becomes available on them.
>>
>> Debian's default Python is also Python2. I don't say i
Paul Rubin :
> All the scripts that say #!/usr/bin/python at the top will still use
> python2.
Which is how it should be till the end of times.
Unfortunately, ArchLinux decided otherwise, which has caused quite a bit
of grief in the office, where a coworker uses it.
We thought we could get aroun
Paul Rubin :
> Marko Rauhamaa writes:
>> Yes, RHEL, CentOS and OracleLinux still only support Python2. It may
>> be another year before Python3 becomes available on them.
>
> Debian's default Python is also Python2. I don't say it *only*
> supports python2 since you can optionally install python3
On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 20:51:22 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:43 PM, Ian Kelly
> wrote:
>> You really think that 90% of the active users are trolls? And yet the
>> subreddit remains usable despite that allegedly terrible
>> signal-to-noise ratio.
>
> I'm now laughing at the im
On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:43 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
>> You really think that 90% of the active users are trolls? And yet the
>> subreddit remains usable despite that allegedly terrible
>> signal-to-noise ratio.
>
> I'm now laughing at the image of
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:43 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> You really think that 90% of the active users are trolls? And yet the
> subreddit remains usable despite that allegedly terrible
> signal-to-noise ratio.
I'm now laughing at the image of a large community of trolls sitting
around trolling each o
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 7:10 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 7:44:40 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> [...]
>> Reddit's /ruby subreddit: 40,571 subscribers.
>>
>> Reddit's /python subreddit: 230,858 subscribers.
>
> Those numbers mean nothing unless you can prove all two-
On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 7:44:40 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> [...]
>> Reddit's /ruby subreddit: 40,571 subscribers.
>>
>> Reddit's /python subreddit: 230,858 subscribers.
>
> Those numbers mean nothing unless you can prove all two-
On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 7:44:40 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
[...]
> Reddit's /ruby subreddit: 40,571 subscribers.
>
> Reddit's /python subreddit: 230,858 subscribers.
Those numbers mean nothing unless you can prove all two-
hundred-thirty-odd thousand of them to be active, non-
tolling,
On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 16:18:57 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote:
> My suspicion is that not only are the overall numbers of Python
> programmers on the decline
Python's popularity went up from #5 to #4 between March 2017 and 2018 on
TIOBE: https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
But of course Rick knows this
On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 00:42:31 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Paul Rubin :
>> Terry Reedy writes:
>>> 2017 25% 2.x, 75% 3.x
>>> This is a bigger jump than I anticipated.
>>
>> It's interesting and surprising. I still have not encountered anyone
>> using Python 3 in real life. The main Linux distros
On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 11:45:10 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote:
> https://www.jetbrains.com/research/python-developers-survey-2017/ “Which
> version of Python do you use the most?”
> 2014 80% 2.x, 20% 3.x
> 2016 60% 2.x, 40% 3.x
> 2017 25% 2.x, 75% 3.x
>
> This is a bigger jump than I anticipated.
Thank
On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 10:45:35 AM UTC-5, Terry Reedy wrote:
> https://www.jetbrains.com/research/python-developers-survey-2017/
> “Which version of Python do you use the most?”
> 2014 80% 2.x, 20% 3.x
> 2016 60% 2.x, 40% 3.x
> 2017 25% 2.x, 75% 3.x
>
> This is a bigger jump than I anticipat
Paul Rubin :
> Terry Reedy writes:
>> 2017 25% 2.x, 75% 3.x
>> This is a bigger jump than I anticipated.
>
> It's interesting and surprising. I still have not encountered anyone
> using Python 3 in real life. The main Linux distros still use Python 2
> by default, afaik. I figured Python 3 adoptio
On 30 March 2018 at 16:45, Terry Reedy wrote:
> https://www.jetbrains.com/research/python-developers-survey-2017/
> “Which version of Python do you use the most?”
> 2014 80% 2.x, 20% 3.x
> 2016 60% 2.x, 40% 3.x
> 2017 25% 2.x, 75% 3.x
>
> This is a bigger jump than I anticipated.
Nice!
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“Which version of Python do you use the most?”
2014 80% 2.x, 20% 3.x
2016 60% 2.x, 40% 3.x
2017 25% 2.x, 75% 3.x
This is a bigger jump than I anticipated.
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