Hi,
This may be a stretch but I came across this blog while searching for a
SW Packaging Engineer. Do you know anyone in the Boston, MA area who
may be interested in this position? The company is a start up with a
lot of funding and this is an opportunity to define the environment and
grow wi
John Nagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> John J. Lee wrote:
> > John Nagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Traditionally, in the open source world, one does something about it,
> > or shuts up after having made one's point, say, ten or twenty times
>
> In ret
John J. Lee wrote:
> John Nagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Traditionally, in the open source world, one does something about it,
> or shuts up after having made one's point, say, ten or twenty times
In retail, there's an assumption that for every customer w
John J. Lee wrote:
> John Nagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > The distutils setup.py script checks for ncurses bits
>>
>>No, it just plows on after compiler errors.
> Red Hat has traditionally been painful with Python.
...
> Also there's the traditional o
John Nagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
> This kind of nonsense is why hosting companies don't want to support Python.
There seems a more obvious reason...
> Perl and PHP may be dumb, but they just work. Java has a company behind it.
> Python just isn't ready. Which is embarassing, ten
John Nagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
> Perl, PHP, C, C++, and Java don't have this particular
> problem. Python stands alone, out in the cold.
[...]
I guess different people's experiences differ. I remember trying to
install Java on a FreeBSD server a few years back. I recall no sin
John Nagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > The distutils setup.py script checks for ncurses bits
>
> No, it just plows on after compiler errors.
>
> > As another person pointed out, you're conflating Python proper with a
> > specific Linux distribution's packaging
MonkeeSage wrote:
>
> The configure script checks for libraries and headers that are
> required for a base build, and (according to the options passed to
> configure, or using the defaults) optional components. There is NO WAY
> for it to know which PACKAGES, on any of the 500 linux distributions,
John Nagle wrote:
> I've been installing Python and its supporting packages on
> a dedicated server with Fedora Core 6 for about a day now.
> This is a standard dedicated rackmount server in a colocation
> facility, controlled via Plesk control panel, and turned over
> to me with Fedora Core 6 in a
On Mar 4, 12:03 pm, John Nagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Exactly. As I've pointed out before, Python doesn't play well with
> others. The Python developers pass the buck to the Linux packager, the
> Linux packager passes the buck to the Python developers, and thus
> the user experience suc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The distutils setup.py script checks for ncurses bits
No, it just plows on after compiler errors.
> As another person pointed out, you're conflating Python proper with a
> specific Linux distribution's packaging techniques.
Exactly. As I've pointed out befor
John> If a Python build needs all that, something in ./configure should
John> be checking for each of those. After all, that's what ./configure
John> is supposed to be for. It looks like a Python install will plow
John> ahead without ncurses-devel, and install a dud version.
As
Patrick Useldinger wrote:
> http://www.serpentine.com/blog/2006/12/22/how-to-build-safe-clean-python-25-rpms-for-fedora-core-6/
I've read that. It's very funny. "Now you’ll need to go into the SOURCES
directory and frob a single file..."
It does have something very useful in it - Python
"Troy Melhase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> You're trying to install a package without using the package
> management tools provided by your system, you haven't read the docs
> (or at least all of them), you show a general lack of understanding of
> the different responsibilities in the free/open
http://www.serpentine.com/blog/2006/12/22/how-to-build-safe-clean-python-25-rpms-for-fedora-core-6/
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> So what's going on? We've run into a conflict between an assumption of Python
> and of the Plesk control panel. Plesk doesn't let the user create files
> in their own home directory. This installer assumes it can. Oops.
> (Plesk sets up a very locked down environment, which is a good
I've been installing Python and its supporting packages on
a dedicated server with Fedora Core 6 for about a day now.
This is a standard dedicated rackmount server in a colocation
facility, controlled via Plesk control panel, and turned over
to me with Fedora Core 6 in an empty state. This is t
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