Re: PEPs should be included with the documentation download

2013-08-23 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2013-08-23, Chris Angelico wrote: > I'm aware of that. However, I'm also aware that many people > still read things online, even with a less-than-reliable > internet connection. Hence the question: How many people > actually do use the downloaded docs? Maybe it'd turn out to be > quite high, bu

Re: PEPs should be included with the documentation download

2013-08-23 Thread Ben Finney
Ned Deily writes: > In article <7wvc2xkjvz@benfinney.id.au>, > Ben Finney wrote: > > Chris Angelico writes: > > > Hence the question: How many people actually do use the downloaded > > > docs? Maybe it'd turn out to be quite high, but it's not an > > > unreasonable question. > > > > I thi

Re: PEPs should be included with the documentation download

2013-08-23 Thread Ned Deily
In article <7wvc2xkjvz@benfinney.id.au>, Ben Finney wrote: > Chris Angelico writes: > > Hence the question: How many people actually do use the downloaded > > docs? Maybe it'd turn out to be quite high, but it's not an > > unreasonable question. > > I think it's an unreasonable question. Wh

Re: PEPs should be included with the documentation download

2013-08-22 Thread Ben Finney
Chris Angelico writes: > Hence the question: How many people actually do use the downloaded > docs? Maybe it'd turn out to be quite high, but it's not an > unreasonable question. I think it's an unreasonable question. What would you accept as an answer? Who could possibly be autoritative at esti

Re: PEPs should be included with the documentation download

2013-08-22 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Ben Finney wrote: > Chris Angelico writes: > >> Also, how many people actually depend on the downloadable >> documentation, rather than simply reading things online? > > Many countries do not have infrastructure that allows reliable, fast, > low-latency internet

Re: PEPs should be included with the documentation download

2013-08-22 Thread Ben Finney
Chris Angelico writes: > Also, how many people actually depend on the downloadable > documentation, rather than simply reading things online? Many countries do not have infrastructure that allows reliable, fast, low-latency internet access 24-hours-a-day. Most countries's internet infrastructure

Re: PEPs should be included with the documentation download

2013-08-22 Thread Terry Reedy
On 8/22/2013 4:39 AM, Aseem Bansal wrote: I do depend on offline documentation. I have both Python2 and 3's documentation offline. A lot of people have 24-hour access to internet but a lot of people don't have. And while moving around it isn't always possible to have internet then offline docu

Re: PEPs should be included with the documentation download

2013-08-22 Thread Aseem Bansal
On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 11:25:44 PM UTC+5:30, rand...@fastmail.us wrote: > I think, though, that if there's any useful information that can be > obtained by reading accepted PEPs but not the documentation, or if > things are explained less clearly than in the PEPs, that's a bug in the > docum

Re: PEPs should be included with the documentation download

2013-08-22 Thread Aseem Bansal
I do depend on offline documentation. I have both Python2 and 3's documentation offline. A lot of people have 24-hour access to internet but a lot of people don't have. And while moving around it isn't always possible to have internet then offline documentation is really helpful. -- http://mail

Re: PEPs should be included with the documentation download

2013-08-21 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 22Aug2013 03:32, Chris Angelico wrote: | Also, how many people actually depend on the downloadable | documentation, rather than simply reading things online? I do. It is outstandingly faster, and works when one is offline; I always have a local copy of a 2.x and 3.x documentation set as deskto

Re: PEPs should be included with the documentation download

2013-08-21 Thread Terry Reedy
On 8/21/2013 1:32 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Aseem Bansal wrote: Currently the documentation download includes a lot of things but PEPs are not its part. I wanted to suggest that PEPs should be included in the download. They are very much relevant to Python.

Re: PEPs should be included with the documentation download

2013-08-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Jerry Hill wrote: > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:55 PM, wrote: >> I think, though, that if there's any useful information that can be >> obtained by reading accepted PEPs but not the documentation, or if >> things are explained less clearly than in the PEPs, that's

Re: PEPs should be included with the documentation download

2013-08-21 Thread random832
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013, at 14:15, Jerry Hill wrote: > Personally, the only PEPs I've used as reference material as PEP 8 > (the Python Style Guide), and PEP 249 (the Python Database API > Specification v2.0). If I recall correctly, one of the database > adapters I used basically said that they were

Re: PEPs should be included with the documentation download

2013-08-21 Thread Jerry Hill
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:55 PM, wrote: > I think, though, that if there's any useful information that can be > obtained by reading accepted PEPs but not the documentation, or if > things are explained less clearly than in the PEPs, that's a bug in the > documentation, and should be remedied by a

Re: PEPs should be included with the documentation download

2013-08-21 Thread random832
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013, at 13:32, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Aseem Bansal > wrote: > > Currently the documentation download includes a lot of things but PEPs are > > not its part. I wanted to suggest that PEPs should be included in the > > download. They are very much

Re: PEPs should be included with the documentation download

2013-08-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Aseem Bansal wrote: > Currently the documentation download includes a lot of things but PEPs are > not its part. I wanted to suggest that PEPs should be included in the > download. They are very much relevant to Python. The PEPs are kinda like the specs that Pyt

PEPs should be included with the documentation download

2013-08-20 Thread Aseem Bansal
Currently the documentation download includes a lot of things but PEPs are not its part. I wanted to suggest that PEPs should be included in the download. They are very much relevant to Python. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list