On 5/4/2016 11:37 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 5 May 2016 12:09 am, DFS wrote:
On 5/3/2016 11:28 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Languages with two distinct lettercases, like English, are called
bicameral.
[...]
Linguist much?
Possibly even a cunning one.
I see you as more of a Col
On Thu, 5 May 2016 12:09 am, DFS wrote:
> On 5/3/2016 11:28 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> Languages with two distinct lettercases, like English, are called
>> bicameral.
[...]
> Linguist much?
Possibly even a cunning one.
Somebody-had-to-say-it-ly y'rs,
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On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 12:09 AM, DFS wrote:
> On 5/3/2016 11:28 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> [ lengthy piece about text, Unicode, and letter case ]
>
> Linguist much?
As an English-only speaker who writes code that needs to be used
around the world, you end up accruing tidbits of language and te
On 5/3/2016 11:28 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Wed, 4 May 2016 12:49 am, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
DFS writes:
On 5/3/2016 9:13 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
It doesn't invert, the way numeric negation does.
What do you mean by 'case inverted'?
It looks like it swaps the case correctly betw
On Wednesday 04 May 2016 18:34, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
>> Ceterum censeo, the only suggested use for .swapcase I've ever heard of
>> is encryption.
>
> Yep, all the smart terrorists these days are using a
> combination of swapcase and rot13. Totally bamboozles
> the FBI.
Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
Ceterum censeo, the only suggested use for .swapcase I've ever heard of
is encryption.
Yep, all the smart terrorists these days are using a
combination of swapcase and rot13. Totally bamboozles
the FBI.
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On Wed, 4 May 2016 12:49 am, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
> DFS writes:
>
>> On 5/3/2016 9:13 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>>> It doesn't invert, the way numeric negation does.
>>
>> What do you mean by 'case inverted'?
>>
>> It looks like it swaps the case correctly between upper and lower.
>
> The
On Wed, 4 May 2016 12:42 am, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
> Ceterum censeo, the only suggested use for .swapcase I've ever heard of
> is encryption.
iF YOU'RE PROGRAMMING AN EDITOR, sWAP cASE IS REALLY USEFUL FOR THOSE LITTLE
capslock ACCIDENTS THAT PLAGUE TYPISTS.
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On 5/3/2016 11:42 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
Interesting. FWIW, Å and Å definitely look different with the terminal
and font I'm using (urxvt with
-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-18-120-*-*-*-90-iso10646-*)
In the fixed pitch font used by Thunderbird (Courier?), Angstrom Å has
the circle touchin
On 2016-05-03, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
>> Does that mean:
>>
>> lower(Å) != å ?
>>
>> and
>>
>> upper(å) != Å ?
>
> It means "\N{ANGSTROM SIGN}" != "Å", yet both lower to "å", which then
> uppers back to "Å" (U+00c5).
>
> The Ångström sign (U+212b) looks like this: Å. Indistinguishable from Å
>
DFS writes:
> On 5/3/2016 10:49 AM, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
>> DFS writes:
>>
>>> On 5/3/2016 9:13 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
It doesn't invert, the way numeric negation does.
>>>
>>> What do you mean by 'case inverted'?
>>>
>>> It looks like it swaps the case correctly between upper and l
On 5/3/2016 10:49 AM, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
DFS writes:
On 5/3/2016 9:13 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
It doesn't invert, the way numeric negation does.
What do you mean by 'case inverted'?
It looks like it swaps the case correctly between upper and lower.
There's letters that do not com
DFS writes:
> On 5/3/2016 9:13 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> It doesn't invert, the way numeric negation does.
>
> What do you mean by 'case inverted'?
>
> It looks like it swaps the case correctly between upper and lower.
There's letters that do not come in exact pairs of upper and lower case,
s
Chris Angelico writes:
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 9:25 PM, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
>> Chris Angelico writes:
>>
>>> This assumes, of course, that there is a function swapcase which can
>>> return a string with case inverted. I'm not sure such a function
>>> exists.
>>
>>str.swapcase("foO")
>>
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 11:19 PM, DFS wrote:
> What do you mean by 'case inverted'?
>
> It looks like it swaps the case correctly between upper and lower.
I gave two examples in my previous post. Did you read them? You
trimmed them from the quote.
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On 5/3/2016 9:13 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 11:01 PM, DFS wrote:
On 5/3/2016 8:00 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 9:25 PM, Jussi Piitulainen
wrote:
Chris Angelico writes:
This assumes, of course, that there is a function swapcase which can
return a
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 11:01 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 5/3/2016 8:00 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 9:25 PM, Jussi Piitulainen
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Chris Angelico writes:
>>>
This assumes, of course, that there is a function swapcase which can
return a string with case in
On 5/3/2016 8:00 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 9:25 PM, Jussi Piitulainen
wrote:
Chris Angelico writes:
This assumes, of course, that there is a function swapcase which can
return a string with case inverted. I'm not sure such a function
exists.
str.swapcase("foO")
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 9:25 PM, Jussi Piitulainen
wrote:
> Chris Angelico writes:
>
>> This assumes, of course, that there is a function swapcase which can
>> return a string with case inverted. I'm not sure such a function
>> exists.
>
>str.swapcase("foO")
>'FOo'
I suppose for this discu
Chris Angelico writes:
> This assumes, of course, that there is a function swapcase which can
> return a string with case inverted. I'm not sure such a function
> exists.
str.swapcase("foO")
'FOo'
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On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 8:00 PM, wrote:
>
> What you should have been expecting is a symmetry. Say you have a string G.
> islower(G) will return a certain result. Now take every letter in G and swap
> the case, and call that string g. isupper(g) will always return the same
> result is islow
On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 6:55:56 PM UTC-7, Christopher Reimer wrote:
> On 4/29/2016 6:29 PM, Stephen Hansen wrote:
> > If isupper/islower were perfect opposites of each-other, there'd be no
> > need for both. But since characters can be upper, lower, or *neither*,
> > you run into this situat
On 4/30/2016 10:11 AM, Stephen Hansen wrote:
You're thinking of the whole "string", but you're operating on
single-character substrings, and when " ".islower() is run, its false.
Because the two-pronged test, a) if all cased characters are lowercase
and b) there is at least one cased character.
On Sat, Apr 30, 2016, at 09:48 AM, Christopher Reimer wrote:
> On 4/29/2016 11:43 PM, Stephen Hansen wrote:
> > The official documentation is accurate.
>
> That may be true on a technical level. But the identically worded text
> in the documentation implies otherwise.
That's the thing -- no it
On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 2:48 AM, Christopher Reimer
wrote:
> On 4/29/2016 11:43 PM, Stephen Hansen wrote:
>>
>> The official documentation is accurate.
>
>
> That may be true on a technical level. But the identically worded text in
> the documentation implies otherwise. Maybe I'm nitpicking this. E
On 4/29/2016 11:43 PM, Stephen Hansen wrote:
The official documentation is accurate.
That may be true on a technical level. But the identically worded text
in the documentation implies otherwise. Maybe I'm nitpicking this. Even
if I submitted a bug to request a clearer explanation in the
doc
On Fri, Apr 29, 2016, at 06:55 PM, Christopher Reimer wrote:
> On 4/29/2016 6:29 PM, Stephen Hansen wrote:
> > If isupper/islower were perfect opposites of each-other, there'd be no
> > need for both. But since characters can be upper, lower, or *neither*,
> > you run into this situation.
>
> Ba
Christopher Reimer wrote:
str.islower(): "Return true if all cased characters [4] in the string
are lowercase and there is at least one cased character, false otherwise."
str.isupper(): "Return true if all cased characters [4] in the string
are uppercase and there is at least one cased charac
On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Christopher Reimer
wrote:
> On 4/29/2016 6:29 PM, Stephen Hansen wrote:
>>
>> If isupper/islower were perfect opposites of each-other, there'd be no
>> need for both. But since characters can be upper, lower, or *neither*, you
>> run into this situation.
>
>
> Bas
On 4/29/2016 6:29 PM, Stephen Hansen wrote:
If isupper/islower were perfect opposites of each-other, there'd be no
need for both. But since characters can be upper, lower, or *neither*,
you run into this situation.
Based upon the official documentation, I was expecting perfect opposites.
str.
On Fri, Apr 29, 2016, at 06:17 PM, Christopher Reimer wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I was playing around with a piece of code to remove lowercase letters
> and leave behind uppercase letters from a string when I got unexpected
> results.
>
> string = 'Whiskey Tango Foxtrot'
>
> list(filter
Greetings,
I was playing around with a piece of code to remove lowercase letters
and leave behind uppercase letters from a string when I got unexpected
results.
string = 'Whiskey Tango Foxtrot'
list(filter((lambda x: not x.islower()), string))
['W', ' ', 'T', ' ', 'F']
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