On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 3:38 AM, Jason P. wrote:
> Despite the impression that surely I gave, I'm quite familiar with
> programming and general bug hunting rules. The problem is that I'm
> inexperienced with Python and the subtle details of multiple threads ;)
>
Heh, it doesn't hurt to remind p
El miércoles, 15 de julio de 2015, 14:12:08 (UTC+2), Chris Angelico escribió:
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Jason P. wrote:
> > I can't understand very well what's happening. It seems that the main
> > thread gets blocked listening to the web server. My intent was to spawn
> > another proc
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 03:25 am, Rick Johnson wrote:
> On Sunday, July 19, 2015 at 4:18:31 AM UTC-5, Laura Creighton wrote:
>> And, despite Norway not being part of the EU, Scandinavia
>> is still in Europe.
>
> This is a bit off topic: But i don't consider Scandinavia to
> be a part of the EU.
La
In a message of Sun, 19 Jul 2015 10:25:35 -0700, Rick Johnson writes:
>On Sunday, July 19, 2015 at 4:18:31 AM UTC-5, Laura Creighton wrote:
>> And, despite Norway not being part of the EU, Scandinavia
>> is still in Europe.
>
>This is a bit off topic: But i don't consider Scandinavia to
>be a part
On 2015-07-19 18:25, Rick Johnson wrote:
On Sunday, July 19, 2015 at 4:18:31 AM UTC-5, Laura Creighton wrote:
And, despite Norway not being part of the EU, Scandinavia
is still in Europe.
This is a bit off topic: But i don't consider Scandinavia to
be a part of the EU. Not anymore than i would
On Sunday, July 19, 2015 at 4:18:31 AM UTC-5, Laura Creighton wrote:
> And, despite Norway not being part of the EU, Scandinavia
> is still in Europe.
This is a bit off topic: But i don't consider Scandinavia to
be a part of the EU. Not anymore than i would consider
America to be a part of the EU
In a message of Sat, 18 Jul 2015 16:18:57 -0700, Rick Johnson writes:
>I'll have to admit you make a good point here. Although the
>argument is diminished by observing that Ruby is far more
>popular in Asia than Python. Python seems to be mainly a
>Scandinavian, European, and American toy. For the
On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 5:46:01 PM UTC-5, Terry Reedy wrote:
> But these relative numbers are, as near as I can tell,
> restricted to the english-speaking world, perhaps extended
> to the latin-1 based world. Anyone who wants unicode
> identifiers must use Python 3 (or a translated Python like
On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 3:39:02 PM UTC-5, Laura Creighton wrote:
> I think kivy is doing a very nice job of python-on-the-mobile.
> Have you looked? Please do not rant at me, just tell me what you
> think.
Hello Laura,
I'm not sure if you're replying to me (as there is no quoted
context) but
On 7/17/2015 3:45 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
Now my question for you or anyone else: If the vast majority of Python
programmers are focused on 2.7,
I consider myself in this group.
why are volunteers to help fix 2.7 bugs so scarce?
perhaps the bugs that are show stoppers are providing the impe
On 7/17/2015 12:15 AM, Rick Johnson wrote:
On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 9:44:56 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
[...] My take from all this is that overall, Python 3
take-up is probably > around 10% of all Python users,
All that rambling just to agree with me? My educated guess
is a minimum
On 17/07/2015 21:38, Laura Creighton wrote:
I think kivy is doing a very nice job of python-on-the-mobile.
Have you looked? Please do not rant at me, just tell me what you
think.
Laura
At least rr occasionally comes out with something useful, usually WRT
tkinter. He's in the bottom divisio
I think kivy is doing a very nice job of python-on-the-mobile.
Have you looked? Please do not rant at me, just tell me what you
think.
Laura
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On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 1:38:52 AM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> 75% or 90% is not a "vast majority". Vast majority implies more than 99%.
>
> But regardless of the precise meaning of "vast", if you want to dismiss one
> in four people (25%) or one in ten (10%) as inconsequential, then you'v
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> Jessie's default should be 2.7, at least. Wheezy shipped 2.7, too;
>> it's only Squeeze (now out of support) that didn't ship any 2.7.x
>> Python. Are you sure you can't at least upgrade to 2.7?
>
> I'm not sure, I'm not actively involved
- Original Message -
> From: "Steven D'Aprano"
> 75% or 90% is not a "vast majority". Vast majority implies more than
> 99%.
You could not be more wrong.
More than 99% is a stupendous majority, while within 95 to 99% is a tremendous
majority.
>From the official "Majority rating" 2015 ed
On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 01:01 pm, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>> My take from all this is that overall, Python 3 take-up is probably
>> around 10% of all Python users...
>
> Really? That low? Wow.
Well, that's based on a guess that for every P
On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 02:15 pm, Rick Johnson wrote:
> On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 9:44:56 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> [...] My take from all this is that overall, Python 3
>> take-up is probably > around 10% of all Python users,
>
> All that rambling just to agree with me? My educated gue
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 9:44:56 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> [...] My take from all this is that overall, Python 3
>> take-up is probably > around 10% of all Python users,
>
> All that rambling just to agree with me? My educated g
On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 9:44:56 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> [...] My take from all this is that overall, Python 3
> take-up is probably > around 10% of all Python users,
All that rambling just to agree with me? My educated guess
is a minimum of 75% still using Python2.x. But i'll take
On 07/15/2015 08:11 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Larry Hudson via Python-list
wrote:
On 07/15/2015 05:11 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
[snip]
In addition to using print(), in some places I like using input() instead,
as in:
input('x={}, y={} --> '.format(x,
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> My take from all this is that overall, Python 3 take-up is probably around
> 10% of all Python users...
Really? That low? Wow. I guess 90% could count as Rick's declared
"vast majority", although that term does imply more like 99%.
> Fur
It amuses me that this discussion started because the OP stated explicitly
that he uses Python 3, and Rick gave an answer for Python 2. Rather than
accept his mistake, Rick's defence is that practically nobody uses Python
3. (Presumably he means "apart from the guy who actually asked the
question".
On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 6:24:21 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
Any attempt to translate downloads into *REAL* usage
statistics is doomed to be unreliable. Chris, you're smarter
than this!
(1) for instance: Python2.x coders have been around long
enough that they don't need to download as mu
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Emile van Sebille wrote:
> On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 3:11:56 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> Where's the latest survey results? I think the numbers don't agree
>> with you any more.
>
>
> Not that there's a source for that info, but a quick survey of yahoo
On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 3:11:56 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
Where's the latest survey results? I think the numbers don't agree
with you any more.
Not that there's a source for that info, but a quick survey of yahoo
results certainly continues to show more v2 activity.
--anytime--
On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 3:11:56 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
> Where's the latest survey results? I think the numbers don't agree
> with you any more.
What? You think the handful of regulars on this list in any
way shape or form somehow represents the multitude of *REAL*
python programmer
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 6:03 AM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> but a vast majority of the Python community is currently
> using, and will for many years continue using, Python<3.0.
Where's the latest survey results? I think the numbers don't agree
with you any more.
ChrisA
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On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 10:45:12 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
> A GUI is another form of console.
And a blindingly obvious association is another form of
patronizing! What's next, are you going to tell us that a
Volvo is a street-legal Scandinavian version of an armored
personal carrier
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 10:11:43 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> That's a neat trick, as long as you actually do have a console.
>
> Well if you don't have a console, another option is to use the
> dialogs of the "batteries included
On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 10:11:43 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
> That's a neat trick, as long as you actually do have a console.
Well if you don't have a console, another option is to use the
dialogs of the "batteries included GUI" named Tkinter.
from tkMessageBox import showinfo # Syn
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Larry Hudson via Python-list
wrote:
> On 07/15/2015 05:11 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Jason P. wrote:
>>>
>>> I can't understand very well what's happening. It seems that the main
>>> thread gets blocked listening to the web se
On 07/15/2015 05:11 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Jason P. wrote:
I can't understand very well what's happening. It seems that the main thread
gets blocked listening to the web server. My intent was to spawn another
process for the server independent of the test.
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Jason P. wrote:
> I can't understand very well what's happening. It seems that the main thread
> gets blocked listening to the web server. My intent was to spawn another
> process for the server independent of the test. Obviously I'm doing something
> wrong. I'v
Hi all!
I'm working in a little Python exercise with testing since the beginning. So
far I'm with my first end to end test (not even finished yet) trying to:
1) Launch a development web server linked to a demo app that just returns
'Hello World!'
2) Make a GET request successfully
I can't un
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