Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-04 Thread Paul Boddie
Fuzzyman wrote: > On May 4, 11:28 pm, Paul Boddie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Despite the permissive licences - it'd be hard to slap a > > bad EULA on IronPython now - the whole thing demonstrates Microsoft's > > disdain for open standards as usual, > > How do you work that out? It seems like a

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-04 Thread Fuzzyman
On May 4, 11:28 pm, Paul Boddie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Luis M. González wrote: > > > Indeed, the subject is absolutely on-topic. > > If can't talk about a so called "Dynamic Languages Runtime" in a > > pyhton mailing list, I wonder what it takes to be considered on-topic. > > Frankly, this on

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-04 Thread Paul Boddie
Luis M. González wrote: > > Indeed, the subject is absolutely on-topic. > If can't talk about a so called "Dynamic Languages Runtime" in a > pyhton mailing list, I wonder what it takes to be considered on-topic. > Frankly, this on-topic/off-topic fascism I see in this list is pissing > me off a lit

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-04 Thread Luis M . González
On May 4, 6:12 pm, Fuzzyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On May 4, 5:27 pm, Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On May 2, 5:19 pm, sturlamolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On May 3, 2:15 am, Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Kindly refrain from creating any more o

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-04 Thread Fuzzyman
On May 4, 10:39 pm, Steven Howe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fuzzyman wrote: [snip ...] > > >> You are childishly beckoning Usenet etiquette to be gone so that you > >> may do whatever you wish. But I trust that you will not, out of spite > >> for being rebuked, turn a few small mistakes into a per

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-04 Thread Steven Howe
Fuzzyman wrote: > On May 4, 5:27 pm, Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On May 2, 5:19 pm, sturlamolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> On May 3, 2:15 am, Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Kindly refrain from creating any more off-topic, cross-posted threa

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-04 Thread Fuzzyman
On May 4, 5:27 pm, Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On May 2, 5:19 pm, sturlamolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On May 3, 2:15 am, Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Kindly refrain from creating any more off-topic, cross-posted threads. > > > Thanks. > > > The only off-topi

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-04 Thread Tony Nelson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On May 2, 5:19 pm, sturlamolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On May 3, 2:15 am, Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Kindly refrain from creating any more off-topic, cross-posted threads. > > > Thanks. > > > >

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-04 Thread Kaz Kylheku
On May 2, 5:19 pm, sturlamolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On May 3, 2:15 am, Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Kindly refrain from creating any more off-topic, cross-posted threads. > > Thanks. > > The only off-topic posting in this thread is your own (and now this > one). You are ma

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-03 Thread Duncan Booth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) wrote: > Duncan Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> means in pure Python code the string has python methods, but in >> Python using the CLR it gains the CLR methods. Presumably in Ruby >> code it looks like a Ruby string and so on, but (and this is what's >> ne

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-03 Thread Alex Martelli
Duncan Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > means in pure Python code the string has python methods, but in Python > using the CLR it gains the CLR methods. Presumably in Ruby code it looks > like a Ruby string and so on, but (and this is what's new) it is the same > object, not a bunch of language

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-03 Thread Jean-Paul Calderone
On 3 May 2007 12:13:49 GMT, Duncan Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >sturlamolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I am curious to know how it performs in comparison to CPython and an >> efficient compiled Lisp like CMUCL. Speed is a major problem with >> CPython but not with .NET or CMUCL, so it wi

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-03 Thread Duncan Booth
sturlamolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am curious to know how it performs in comparison to CPython and an > efficient compiled Lisp like CMUCL. Speed is a major problem with > CPython but not with .NET or CMUCL, so it will be interesting to see > how the DLR performs in comparison. It would b

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-03 Thread antoanjamison
On May 2, 8:22 pm, sturlamolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday Microsoft announced a new runtime for dynamic languages, > which they call "DLR". It sits on top of the conventional .NET runtime > (CLR) and provides services for dynamically typed languages like > Python or Lisp (thus the cro

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-03 Thread Duncan Booth
Pascal Costanza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That still doesn't explain what DLR actually does. You can implement > these languages on top of the JVM as well. You could implement them on > any Turing-complete language, for that matter. The interesting question > how well integrated such an impl

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-03 Thread Edi Weitz
On Thu, 3 May 2007 09:20:22 +0200, Stefan Scholl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You are not allowed to publish .NET benchmarks. :-) I'm pretty sure that only applied to their beta releases. -- Lisp is not dead, it just smells funny. Real email: (replace (subseq "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 5) "edi") --

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-03 Thread Stefan Scholl
In comp.lang.lisp sturlamolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am curious to know how it performs in comparison to CPython and an > efficient compiled Lisp like CMUCL. Speed is a major problem with You are not allowed to publish .NET benchmarks. :-) -- Web (en): http://www.no-spoon.de/ -*- Web (

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-02 Thread Pascal Costanza
Fuzzyman wrote: > On May 2, 8:20 pm, Pascal Costanza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> sturlamolden wrote: >>> On Monday Microsoft announced a new runtime for dynamic languages, >>> which they call "DLR". It sits on top of the conventional .NET runtime >>> (CLR) and provides services for dynamically t

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-02 Thread Alex Martelli
Kevin Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Isn't python cross platform? Sure -- why is that relevant? Alex -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-02 Thread Ken Tilton
sturlamolden wrote: > On May 3, 2:15 am, Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Kindly refrain from creating any more off-topic, cross-posted threads. >>Thanks. > > > The only off-topic posting in this thread is your own (and now this > one). > Begone. FWIW, I took Kaz's remark to be m

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-02 Thread Kevin Haynes
Isn't python cross platform? On Thursday 3 May 2007, Kaz Kylheku wrote: > On May 2, 11:22 am, sturlamolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Monday Microsoft announced a new runtime for dynamic languages, > > Kindly refrain from creating any more off-topic, cross-posted threads. > Thanks. -- htt

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-02 Thread sturlamolden
On May 3, 2:15 am, Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kindly refrain from creating any more off-topic, cross-posted threads. > Thanks. The only off-topic posting in this thread is your own (and now this one). Begone. S.M. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-02 Thread Kaz Kylheku
On May 2, 11:22 am, sturlamolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday Microsoft announced a new runtime for dynamic languages, Kindly refrain from creating any more off-topic, cross-posted threads. Thanks. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-02 Thread Fuzzyman
On May 2, 8:20 pm, Pascal Costanza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sturlamolden wrote: > > On Monday Microsoft announced a new runtime for dynamic languages, > > which they call "DLR". It sits on top of the conventional .NET runtime > > (CLR) and provides services for dynamically typed languages like

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-02 Thread Ken Tilton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On May 2, 1:22 pm, sturlamolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>On Monday Microsoft announced a new runtime for dynamic languages, >>which they call "DLR". It sits on top of the conventional .NET runtime >>(CLR) and provides services for dynamically typed languages lik

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-02 Thread Michel Claveau
Re! During we post messages, then blog of Jim Hugunin is updated: http://blogs.msdn.com/hugunin/ -- @-salutations Michel Claveau -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-02 Thread Michel Claveau
Hi! DLR is include in SilverLight. See my message of yesterday. For instant, DLR is for IronPython & JScript. Others languages are only promised. You can install SilverLight 1.1, and make your tests. -- @-salutations Michel Claveau -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-02 Thread kyosohma
On May 2, 1:22 pm, sturlamolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday Microsoft announced a new runtime for dynamic languages, > which they call "DLR". It sits on top of the conventional .NET runtime > (CLR) and provides services for dynamically typed languages like > Python or Lisp (thus the cro

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-02 Thread Pascal Costanza
sturlamolden wrote: > On Monday Microsoft announced a new runtime for dynamic languages, > which they call "DLR". It sits on top of the conventional .NET runtime > (CLR) and provides services for dynamically typed languages like > Python or Lisp (thus the cross-posting). Apparently is is distribut