Re: [OT] Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-09 Thread Michael
Paul McGuire wrote: > "Claire McLister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > We've been working with Google Maps, and have created a web service to > map origins of emails to a group. As a trial, we've developed a map of > emails to this group at: > > http://www.zee

Re: [OT] Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-09 Thread Tom Anderson
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Claire McLister wrote: > We've been working with Google Maps, and have created a web service to map > origins of emails to a group. Top stuff! The misses are, if anything, more interesting than the hits! I, apparently, am in Norwich. I have been to Norwich a few times, and,

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-08 Thread Alan Kennedy
[Claire McLister] > I've made the script available on our downloads page at: > > http://www.zeesource.net/downloads/e2i [Alan Kennedy] >> I look forward to the map with updated precision :-) [Claire McLister] > Me too. Please let me know how we should modify the script. Having examined your sc

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Claire McLister
On Nov 7, 2005, at 3:26 PM, Alan Kennedy wrote: > Sure, please do make it available, or at least the geolocation > component > anyway. I'm sure you'll get lots of useful comments from the many > clever > and experienced folk who frequent this group. > I've made the script available on our downl

Re: [OT] Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Mike Meyer
Claire McLister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > An interesting perspective. Not to increase your sense of 'creepy', > but a lot of big corporations now have access to this kind of > information and more. You mean my creditors are going to be looking for me in San Francisco, even though I'm in Virgin

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Mike Meyer
Claire McLister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thanks, Alan. You are absolutely right, we are not using the > NNTP-Posting-Host header for obtaining the IP address. Yes, but what are you using? > The Python list is unique among the lists that we have handled so far, > in that it has a cross-postin

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Alan Kennedy
[Claire McLister] > Thanks, Alan. You are absolutely right, we are not using the > NNTP-Posting-Host header for obtaining the IP address. Aha, that would explain the lack of precision in many cases. A lot of posters in this list/group go through NNTP (either with an NNTP client or through NNTP-

Re: [OT] Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Neil Hodgson
Claire McLister: > We try to get a best guess estimate of the originating IP and its > location. If we cannot find that, we fall back on the earliest server > that has a location information. Clearly this marks quite a few email > origins in the wrong way. It doesn't do the collection of ALL gm

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Claire McLister
Thanks, Alan. You are absolutely right, we are not using the NNTP-Posting-Host header for obtaining the IP address. The Python list is unique among the lists that we have handled so far, in that it has a cross-posting mechanism with a net news. Hence, it seems we are getting many more wrong loc

Re: [OT] Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Claire McLister
On Nov 7, 2005, at 10:55 AM, Steve Holden wrote: > Mostly I wonder what the point is. For example, given my own somewhat > nomadic life I wondered what location has been used to map my own > contributions. Just for fun, really. We try to a best job of mapping the IP location closest to the origi

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Jorge Godoy
"George Sakkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Jorge Godoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > H... I don't see mine listed there: I'm in South America, Brasil. More > > specifically in Curitiba, ParanĂ¡, Brasil. :-) > > That's funny; I was looking for mine and I stumbled across yours at > Piscataw

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Alan Kennedy
[Alan Kennedy] >>So presumably "chcgil" indicates you're in Chicago, Illinois? [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yes, but why, then, is my name logged into Mountain View, CA? Presumably the creators of the map have chosen to use a mechanism other than NNTP-Posting-Host IP address to geolocate posters. Claire

Re: [OT] Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Claire McLister
On Nov 7, 2005, at 10:23 AM, Rocco Moretti wrote: > It's also a testament to the limited value of physically locating > people > by internet addresses - If you zoom in on the San Fransico bay area, > and > click on the southern most bubble (south of San Jose), you'll see the > entry for the Moun

Re: [OT] Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Claire McLister
On Nov 7, 2005, at 9:55 AM, Paul McGuire wrote: > I guess it's a great way to find where there might be Python jobs to be > found, or at least kindred souls (or dissident Python posters in > countries > where Internet activity is closely monitored...) Possibly. But there are so many in-accuracie

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread George Sakkis
"Jorge Godoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > H... I don't see mine listed there: I'm in South America, Brasil. More > specifically in Curitiba, ParanĂ¡, Brasil. :-) That's funny; I was looking for mine and I stumbled across yours at Piscataway, NJ, US. :-) George -- http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alan Kennedy wrote: > [Robert Kern] > >>Most of AOL's offices are in Dulles, VA. Google's headquarters are in > >>Mountain View, CA. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Aha, I post to the usenet through Google. Makes the map application > > all the more stupid, doesn't it? > > Actually, no, because Google G

Re: [OT] Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Jorge Godoy
Claire McLister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We've been working with Google Maps, and have created a web service to map > origins of emails to a group. As a trial, we've developed a map of emails to > this group at: > > http://www.zeesource.net/maps/map.do?group=668 > > This represents em

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Alan Kennedy
[Robert Kern] >>Most of AOL's offices are in Dulles, VA. Google's headquarters are in >>Mountain View, CA. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aha, I post to the usenet through Google. Makes the map application > all the more stupid, doesn't it? Actually, no, because Google Groups sets the NNTP-Posting-Host head

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Robert Kern wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > North of that bubble is a second massive list also labeled Mountain > > View > > 94043. I found my name on that list and I live in the Chicago area. > > Moutain View is, perhaps, where aol.com is located? These bubbles are > > showing the locatio

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Robert Kern
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > North of that bubble is a second massive list also labeled Mountain > View > 94043. I found my name on that list and I live in the Chicago area. > Moutain View is, perhaps, where aol.com is located? These bubbles are > showing the location of the server that's registered

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Rocco Moretti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Rocco Moretti wrote: > >>It's also a testament to the limited value of physically locating people >>by internet addresses - If you zoom in on the San Fransico bay area, and >>click on the southern most bubble (south of San Jose), you'll see the >>entry for the Mountain Vi

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rocco Moretti wrote: > Paul McGuire wrote: > > "Claire McLister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > We've been working with Google Maps, and have created a web service to > > map origins of emails to a group. As a trial, we've developed a map of > > emails to thi

Re: [OT] Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Steve Holden
Claire McLister wrote: > We've been working with Google Maps, and have created a web service to > map origins of emails to a group. As a trial, we've developed a map of > emails to this group at: > > http://www.zeesource.net/maps/map.do?group=668 > > This represents emails sent to the gro

Re: [OT] Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Rocco Moretti
Paul McGuire wrote: > "Claire McLister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > We've been working with Google Maps, and have created a web service to > map origins of emails to a group. As a trial, we've developed a map of > emails to this group at: > > http://www.zees

Re: [OT] Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Paul McGuire
"Claire McLister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] We've been working with Google Maps, and have created a web service to map origins of emails to a group. As a trial, we've developed a map of emails to this group at: http://www.zeesource.net/maps/map.do?group=668

[OT] Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Claire McLister
We've been working with Google Maps, and have created a web service to map origins of emails to a group. As a trial, we've developed a map of emails to this group at: http://www.zeesource.net/maps/map.do?group=668 This represents emails sent to the group since October 27. Would like to