Personally I use winpython: https://winpython.github.io/
That have all the scientific packages already available.
It can run without being installed and uses spyder as an IDE (for small
projects it's ok).
And, I can import pygame (even though I have not tested if everything works)
in python 3.11
On 12/20/2022 8:11 AM, Eryk Sun wrote:
[snipped]
I know we're not here to bash Windows, but... drive letters
really need to just die already.
I don't foresee drive-letter names getting phased out of Windows. And
Windows itself is unlikely to get phased out as long as Microsoft
continues to profi
On 12/19/22, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 09:12, Thomas Passin wrote:
>
>> @echo off
>> setlocal
>> : Find effective drive for this file.
>> set ed=%~d0
>> path %ed%\python37\Scripts;%ed%\python37;%PATH%
For reference, in case not everyone on the list knows what "%~d0"
means, t
n lxml build for experimenting with 3.12
alphas, and that's an absolute bear to build for WIndows - I've never
cracked it)
That is dreadful news! Windows as a dev platform is dead without it.
That is serious.
Back on topic - Installation hell
I use Windows for historic rea
On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 10:01, Thomas Passin wrote:
>
> On 12/19/2022 5:16 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 09:12, Thomas Passin wrote:
> >> FWIW, I once set up a Python installation so that it could run from a
> >> USB stick (Windows only). My launcher was a batch file that c
On 2022-12-19, Chris Angelico wrote:
> So much easier to do on a Unix-like system, where you don't need to
> concern yourself with "effective drive" and can simply use relative
> paths. I know we're not here to bash Windows, but... drive letters
> really need to just die already.
They needed to
On 12/19/2022 5:16 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 09:12, Thomas Passin wrote:
FWIW, I once set up a Python installation so that it could run from a
USB stick (Windows only). My launcher was a batch file that contained
the following:
@echo off
setlocal
: Find effective drive
On 12/19/22 14:47, Eryk Sun wrote:
If you search a bit deeper, you'll find a site with unofficial Windows
builds of many packages, including pygame for Python 3.11:
https://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/#pygame
Semi-OT: that's been a superb resource, but apparently it's no longer
maintain
On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 09:12, Thomas Passin wrote:
> FWIW, I once set up a Python installation so that it could run from a
> USB stick (Windows only). My launcher was a batch file that contained
> the following:
>
> @echo off
> setlocal
> : Find effective drive for this file.
> set ed=%~d0
> path
On 12/19/2022 4:54 PM, Thomas Passin wrote:
On 12/19/2022 3:34 PM, j wrote:
I was unclear. I use the full path to the folder with the unzipped
python-embedded. I shouldn't have said 'set'.
I have complained on here before about broken installs but got
indifference. An installer should install
On 12/19/2022 3:34 PM, j wrote:
I was unclear. I use the full path to the folder with the unzipped
python-embedded. I shouldn't have said 'set'.
I have complained on here before about broken installs but got
indifference. An installer should install stuff correctly (leaving a
working environm
On 12/18/22, Jim Lewis wrote:
>
> Sometimes it's a path issue.
For whatever reason, Python installations on Windows lack versioned
executable names (except for the Microsoft Store distribution). Thus
adding multiple installations to PATH doesn't help unless "python.exe"
is manually linked or copi
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On 12/19/22 13:34, j via Python-list wrote:
I was unclear. I use the full path to the folder with the unzipped
python-embedded. I shouldn't have said 'set'.
I have complained on here before about broken installs but got
indifference. An installer should install stuff correctly (leaving a
work
I was unclear. I use the full path to the folder with the unzipped
python-embedded. I shouldn't have said 'set'.
I have complained on here before about broken installs but got
indifference. An installer should install stuff correctly (leaving a
working environment). If it won't then give clear
ending an email?
Ask for a refund on your compsci degree.
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On 12/18/2022 6:50 AM, Jim Lewis wrote:
> I'm an occasional us
On 12/18/2022 6:50 AM, Jim Lewis wrote:
I'm an occasional user of Python and have a degree in computer science.
Almost every freaking time I use Python, I go through PSH (Python Setup
Hell). Sometimes a wrong version is installed. Sometimes it's a path issue.
Or exe naming confusion: python, pyth
On 2022-12-20 04:15:07 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 03:56, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> > It is however, quite noticable that almost everyone who asks a question
> > about their Python installation on this list is using Windows. I don't
> > think this is just because there are
On 12/19/2022 12:28 PM, j via Python-list wrote:
I agree. Wasted too much time on last few installs.
It got to the point I downloaded python-embedded, unzipped it and set
the path manually for my work (needed it as part of a compiler).
I don't set those paths. If you have several different v
I agree. Wasted too much time on last few installs.
It got to the point I downloaded python-embedded, unzipped it and set
the path manually for my work (needed it as part of a compiler).
It ain't good enough. And I like python.
jan
On 18/12/2022 11:50, Jim Lewis wrote:
I'm an occasional use
On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 04:14, Thomas Passin wrote:
>
> On 12/19/2022 11:36 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 03:05, Thomas Passin wrote:
> >>
> >> That's not been my experience. Windows installers for Python have
> >> worked well for me over many generations of Python releases
On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 03:56, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
>
> It is however, quite noticable that almost everyone who asks a question
> about their Python installation on this list is using Windows. I don't
> think this is just because there are more Windows users than Linux or
> Mac Users.
Yes. I thi
On 12/19/2022 11:36 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 03:05, Thomas Passin wrote:
That's not been my experience. Windows installers for Python have
worked well for me over many generations of Python releases. It's Linux
where I've found difficulties. For example, if your dist
On 2022-12-19 10:55:52 -0500, Thomas Passin wrote:
> On 12/19/2022 9:59 AM, Weatherby,Gerard wrote:
> > Personally, I don’t use Windows and avoid it like the plague.
> > Python is easy to install on Linux and Mac.
>
> That's not been my experience. Windows installers for Python have worked
> well
On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 03:05, Thomas Passin wrote:
>
> That's not been my experience. Windows installers for Python have
> worked well for me over many generations of Python releases. It's Linux
> where I've found difficulties. For example, if your distro's Python
> install didn't include tkint
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/python/overview-of-python-tools-for-visual-studio?view=vs-2022
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I'm an occasional user of Python and have a degree in computer science.
Almost every freaking
On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 at 06:10, Mats Wichmann wrote:
> Why? Python is a command-line tool to process a language, Similar to
> many other languages - Go, for example. Or a C/C++ compiler. *Or* you
> can choose to use someone's wrapping of that process inside an
> Integrated Development Environment.
On 12/18/22 04:50, Jim Lewis wrote:
I'm an occasional user of Python and have a degree in computer science.
Almost every freaking time I use Python, I go through PSH (Python Setup
Hell). Sometimes a wrong version is installed. Sometimes it's a path issue.
Or exe naming confusion: python, python3,
I'm an occasional user of Python and have a degree in computer science.
Almost every freaking time I use Python, I go through PSH (Python Setup
Hell). Sometimes a wrong version is installed. Sometimes it's a path issue.
Or exe naming confusion: python, python3, phthon311, etc. Or library
compatibil
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