Re: Getting back into PyQt and not loving it.

2016-07-02 Thread Sibylle Koczian
Am 27.06.2016 um 22:14 schrieb codewiz...@gmail.com: On Sunday, June 26, 2016 at 5:45:18 PM UTC-4, Michael Torrie wrote: Qt's a fantastic toolkit, and the most mature of any of them, and the most portable, but man the bindings are not Pythonic at all. Enaml feels pretty Pythonic to me: https

Re: Getting back into PyQt and not loving it.

2016-06-27 Thread Michael Torrie
On 06/27/2016 02:14 PM, codewiz...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, June 26, 2016 at 5:45:18 PM UTC-4, Michael Torrie wrote: >> >> Qt's a fantastic toolkit, and the most mature of any of them, and the >> most portable, but man the bindings are not Pythonic at all. > > Enaml feels pretty Pythonic to m

Re: Getting back into PyQt and not loving it.

2016-06-27 Thread Ethan Furman
On 06/26/2016 07:12 PM, MRAB wrote: Is it a problem with Tk itself or with the Python wrapper? Would it be better if we made a more Pythonic version of Tkinter, e.g. making Frame.title a property? I would say it's the wrapper. I appreciate all the work being done on tkinter lately, but it's s

Re: Getting back into PyQt and not loving it.

2016-06-27 Thread codewizard
On Sunday, June 26, 2016 at 5:45:18 PM UTC-4, Michael Torrie wrote: > > Qt's a fantastic toolkit, and the most mature of any of them, and the > most portable, but man the bindings are not Pythonic at all. Enaml feels pretty Pythonic to me: https://github.com/nucleic/enaml -- https://mail.python

Re: Getting back into PyQt and not loving it.

2016-06-27 Thread llanitedave
On Sunday, June 26, 2016 at 11:16:01 PM UTC-7, John Ladasky wrote: > On Sunday, June 26, 2016 at 7:41:17 PM UTC-7, Michael Torrie wrote: > > If GTK+ had first-class support on Windows and Mac, including native > > themes and seamless UI integration (file and print dialogs), I'd say > > GTK+ would b

Re: Getting back into PyQt and not loving it.

2016-06-27 Thread Michael Torrie
On 06/27/2016 12:44 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 6:16:01 PM UTC+12, John Ladasky wrote: > >> Between the Py3 requirement and the need to work with all major OS's, I >> decided to learn PyQt and not GTK+. > > GTK+ is available for Python 3. > > No doubt it will wo

Re: Getting back into PyQt and not loving it.

2016-06-27 Thread Mark Summerfield
On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 3:12:34 AM UTC+1, MRAB wrote: [snip] > > Not sure that wxPython is really any different in that respect, and Tkinter > > doesn't feel Pythonic to me, either -- considering how it's Tk at heart. > > So what's the alternative? There really is no good Python-based GUI t

Re: Getting back into PyQt and not loving it.

2016-06-27 Thread lorenzo . gatti
PyGTK is obsolete and stopped at Python 2.7, while PyGObject for Windows is several versions behind (currently 3.18 vs 3.21) and it doesn't support Python 3.5. Game over for GTK+. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Getting back into PyQt and not loving it.

2016-06-26 Thread Lawrence D’Oliveiro
On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 6:16:01 PM UTC+12, John Ladasky wrote: > Between the Py3 requirement and the need to work with all major OS's, I > decided to learn PyQt and not GTK+. GTK+ is available for Python 3. No doubt it will work on Windows as well, once Microsoft gets its Linux compatibil

Re: Getting back into PyQt and not loving it.

2016-06-26 Thread John Ladasky
On Sunday, June 26, 2016 at 7:41:17 PM UTC-7, Michael Torrie wrote: > If GTK+ had first-class support on Windows and Mac, including native > themes and seamless UI integration (file and print dialogs), I'd say > GTK+ would be the only game in town for Python programmers. > Unfortunately, unless you

Re: Getting back into PyQt and not loving it.

2016-06-26 Thread Michael Torrie
On 06/26/2016 07:05 PM, llanitedave wrote: > Not sure that wxPython is really any different in that respect, and > Tkinter doesn't feel Pythonic to me, either -- considering how it's > Tk at heart. So what's the alternative? There really is no good > Python-based GUI tool, and that's a shame. Gu

Re: Getting back into PyQt and not loving it.

2016-06-26 Thread MRAB
On 2016-06-27 02:05, llanitedave wrote: On Sunday, June 26, 2016 at 2:45:18 PM UTC-7, Michael Torrie wrote: I'm starting to question the advice I gave not long ago to for new users to consider the Qt toolkit with Python. I just did a little project porting a simple graphical user interface from

Re: Getting back into PyQt and not loving it.

2016-06-26 Thread Rustom Mody
On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 6:35:31 AM UTC+5:30, llanitedave wrote: > So what's the alternative? There really is no good Python-based GUI tool, > and that's a shame. The last time Ranting Rick made a big rant about this (saying wxpython should replace tkinter in core CPython) everyone took note

Re: Getting back into PyQt and not loving it.

2016-06-26 Thread llanitedave
On Sunday, June 26, 2016 at 2:45:18 PM UTC-7, Michael Torrie wrote: > I'm starting to question the advice I gave not long ago to for new users > to consider the Qt toolkit with Python. > > I just did a little project porting a simple graphical user interface > from GTK+ to Qt (PyQt4 for now as tha

Getting back into PyQt and not loving it.

2016-06-26 Thread Michael Torrie
I'm starting to question the advice I gave not long ago to for new users to consider the Qt toolkit with Python. I just did a little project porting a simple graphical user interface from GTK+ to Qt (PyQt4 for now as that's what I have installed). For the most part it worked out pretty well. It'