[OT] Copyright statements and why they can be useful (was: Everything you did not want to know about Unicode in Python 3)

2014-05-13 Thread Ben Finney
Steven D'Aprano writes: > On Tue, 13 May 2014 14:42:51 +, alister wrote: > > > You do not need any statements at all, copyright is automaticly > > assigned to anything you create (at least that is the case in UK > > Law) although proving the creation date m

Re: What license/copyright text to include and where to include it when selling a commercial Python based application?

2010-04-16 Thread Martin v. Loewis
> 1. What Python license text/copyright text should I place in our > printed user manual? > > 2. What Python license text/copyright text should I include in > our online documentation? > > 3. What Python license text/copyright text should I include in > product's li

Re: What license/copyright text to include and where to include it when selling a commercial Python based application?

2010-04-14 Thread python
Thank you Robert! Regards, Malcolm - Original message - From: "Robert Kern" To: python-list@python.org Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:20:54 -0500 Subject: Re: What license/copyright text to include and where to include it when selling a commercial Python based application? On 201

Re: What license/copyright text to include and where to include it when selling a commercial Python based application?

2010-04-12 Thread Robert Kern
On 2010-04-12 17:02 PM, Malcolm Greene wrote: Looking for advice on what Python license and copyright text to include and where to include it when selling a commercial (Windows based) Python based application. The requirement is fairly broad; there are a number of things you could do to

What license/copyright text to include and where to include it when selling a commercial Python based application?

2010-04-12 Thread Malcolm Greene
Looking for advice on what Python license and copyright text to include and where to include it when selling a commercial (Windows based) Python based application. By license text and copyrights I am refering to the text on this page: PYTHON SOFTWARE FOUNDATION LICENSE VERSION 2 http

Re: Character encoding & the copyright symbol

2009-08-13 Thread Ben Finney
Dave Angel writes: > But I wanted to comment on the (c) remark. If you're in the US, > that's the wrong abbreviation for copyright. The only recognized > abbreviation is (copr). More reading on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Copyright_Convention> h

Re: Character encoding & the copyright symbol

2009-08-06 Thread Dave Angel
7; in position 1650: character maps to The file is defined as ASCII and the copyright symbol shows up just fine in Notepad++. However, Python will not print this symbol. How can I get this to work? And no, I won't replace it with "(c)". Thanks! I see others have alerted you to

Re: Character encoding & the copyright symbol

2009-08-06 Thread Benjamin Kaplan
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Robert Dailey wrote: > On Aug 6, 11:31 am, "Richard Brodie" wrote: >> "Robert Dailey" wrote in message >> >> news:29ab0981-b95d-4435-91bd-a7a520419...@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... >> >> > UnicodeEncodeError: 'charmap' codec can't encode character '\xa9' in >> >

Re: Character encoding & the copyright symbol

2009-08-06 Thread Philip Semanchuk
inux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. py> file Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in NameError: name 'file' is not defined Whooops, didn't know about that change from 2.x to 3.x. Thanks. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Character encoding & the copyright symbol

2009-08-06 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> As a side note, you should probably use something other than "file" for > the parameter name in GetFileContentsAsString() since file() is a Python > function. Python 3.1.1a0 (py3k:74094, Jul 19 2009, 13:39:42) [GCC 4.3.3] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright

Re: Character encoding & the copyright symbol

2009-08-06 Thread Nobody
' codec can't encode character '\xa9' in > position 1650: character maps to > > The file is defined as ASCII and the copyright symbol shows up just > fine in Notepad++. However, Python will not print this symbol. How can > I get this to work? And no, I won't re

Re: Character encoding & the copyright symbol

2009-08-06 Thread Richard Brodie
"Robert Dailey" wrote in message news:f64f9830-c416-41b1-a510-c1e486271...@g19g2000vbi.googlegroups.com... > As you can see, I am trying to load the file with encoding 'cp1252' > which, according to the python 3.1 docs, translates to windows-1252. I > also tried 'latin_1', which translates to I

Re: Character encoding & the copyright symbol

2009-08-06 Thread Philip Semanchuk
On Aug 6, 2009, at 12:41 PM, Robert Dailey wrote: On Aug 6, 11:31 am, "Richard Brodie" wrote: "Robert Dailey" wrote in message news:29ab0981-b95d-4435-91bd-a7a520419...@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com ... UnicodeEncodeError: 'charmap' codec can't encode character '\xa9' in position 1650: c

Re: Character encoding & the copyright symbol

2009-08-06 Thread Albert Hopkins
r: 'charmap' codec can't encode character '\xa9' in > position 1650: character maps to > > The file is defined as ASCII and the copyright symbol shows up just > fine in Notepad++. However, Python will not print this symbol. How can > I get this to work? And

Re: Character encoding & the copyright symbol

2009-08-06 Thread Robert Dailey
On Aug 6, 11:31 am, "Richard Brodie" wrote: > "Robert Dailey" wrote in message > > news:29ab0981-b95d-4435-91bd-a7a520419...@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... > > > UnicodeEncodeError: 'charmap' codec can't encode character '\xa9' in > > position 1650: character maps to > > > The file is defined a

Re: Character encoding & the copyright symbol

2009-08-06 Thread Richard Brodie
"Robert Dailey" wrote in message news:29ab0981-b95d-4435-91bd-a7a520419...@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... > UnicodeEncodeError: 'charmap' codec can't encode character '\xa9' in > position 1650: character maps to > > The file is defined as ASCII. That's the problem: ASCII is a seven bit code.

Re: Character encoding & the copyright symbol

2009-08-06 Thread Philip Semanchuk
ncode character '\xa9' in position 1650: character maps to The file is defined as ASCII and the copyright symbol shows up just fine in Notepad++. However, Python will not print this symbol. How can I get this to work? And no, I won't replace it with "(c)". Thanks! If

Character encoding & the copyright symbol

2009-08-06 Thread Robert Dailey
50: character maps to The file is defined as ASCII and the copyright symbol shows up just fine in Notepad++. However, Python will not print this symbol. How can I get this to work? And no, I won't replace it with "(c)". Thanks! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Code anntotations (copyright, autor, etc) in your code

2009-03-28 Thread Nick Craig-Wood
- > # Name:About.py > # Purpose: > # > # Author: > # > # Created: 2009 > # Copyright: (c) 2009 > # Licence: GPL > > #- > > others put something

Re: Code anntotations (copyright, autor, etc) in your code

2009-03-26 Thread Ben Finney
Tim Daneliuk writes: > mattia wrote: > > Hi all, which are the usual comments that you put at the beginning > > of your code to explain e.g. the author, the usage, the license > > etc? I use a single-line copyright statement for each distinct holder, and a brief grant of li

Re: Code anntotations (copyright, autor, etc) in your code

2009-03-26 Thread andrew cooke
mattia wrote: > Hi all, which are the usual comments that you put at the beginning of your code to explain e.g. the author, the usage, the license etc? the GPL has guidelines at http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-howto.html andrew -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pytho

Re: Code anntotations (copyright, autor, etc) in your code

2009-03-26 Thread Tim Daneliuk
--- > # Name:About.py > # Purpose: > # > # Author: > # > # Created: 2009 > # Copyright: (c) 2009 > # Licence: GPL > #- > > others put something like > > __author_

Code anntotations (copyright, autor, etc) in your code

2009-03-26 Thread mattia
uthor: # # Created: 2009 # Copyright: (c) 2009 # Licence: GPL #- others put something like __author__ = "Name Surname" __year__ = 2009 What do you use? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

More copyright briefs

2009-03-16 Thread Scott David Daniels
On Groklaw, there is the motion filed by Harvard's Charles Nelson argues that "statutory damages for noncommercial defendants under copyright law are unconstitutional, unreasonable, and way out of proportion to any alleged injury to the plaintiffs." http://www.groklaw.net/ar

Re: Copyright issues for an application developed using django, python and mySQL

2008-07-04 Thread Nagu
Thank you for your explanations. On Jul 3, 6:27 pm, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nagu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I made a small recommendation engine for our company using python, > > django, and mySQL. My supervisor and the senior management are >

Re: Copyright issues for an application developed using django, python and mySQL

2008-07-03 Thread Ben Finney
Nagu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I made a small recommendation engine for our company using python, > django, and mySQL. My supervisor and the senior management are > worried about the copyright and licensing issues. It's good that they're raising these concerns and

Re: Copyright issues for an application developed using django, python and mySQL

2008-07-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Jul 3, 8:33 pm, Nagu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... > How do I go about addressing the copyright and licensing issues? (I do > not know if licensing is the right word here). > > Please advice. > > Thank you, > Nagu I suggest you take the advice of random i

Copyright issues for an application developed using django, python and mySQL

2008-07-03 Thread Nagu
Hi, I made a small recommendation engine for our company using python, django, and mySQL. My supervisor and the senior management are worried about the copyright and licensing issues. They want to find out the details on how to go about start using it, like quoting python/django/ mySQL

Re: *** Massive Copyright Violation by the US Government ***

2008-06-11 Thread Ben
On Jun 11, 3:06 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Printing dollar is a copyright violation > > > I recently heard that the USA government or the unfederal reserve is > printing dollars. Is this a copyright violation ? > >

*** Massive Copyright Violation by the US Government ***

2008-06-11 Thread lemnitzer
Printing dollar is a copyright violation I recently heard that the USA government or the unfederal reserve is printing dollars. Is this a copyright violation ? Is this also a theft ? Is there a scheme to print dollars in such a way to

Writing a Python manual for Poser 7. Advice required re copyright/license

2007-07-13 Thread PhilC
Hi Folks, I'm attempting to write a comprehensive manual explaining how to write Python scripts for the Poser 7 application. All the example scripts, explanatory paragraphs and screen shots will naturally be all my own work. My difficulty is in knowing how I may present the large amount of tabulat

Proper licensing and copyright attribution for extracted Python code

2007-06-14 Thread Douglas Alan
Hi. I extracted getpath.c out of Python and modified it to make a generally useful facility for C and C++ programming. These comments are at the top of my .c file, and I would like to know if they pass muster for meeting licensing, copyright, and aesthetics requirements: // -*- Mode: C; fill

Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by Mr. AndySingleton

2006-10-07 Thread Steve Holden
Hendrik van Rooyen wrote: > "Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 8<--- > >>... - I don't wanna get >>into the details of my underwear :P >> >>Diez > > > Why not? - what are you hiding? > :) We *especially* don't want to get into the detail

Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by Mr. AndySingleton

2006-10-07 Thread Hendrik van Rooyen
"Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 8<--- > ... - I don't wanna get > into the details of my underwear :P > > Diez Why not? - what are you hiding? - Hendrik -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by Mr. Andy Singleton

2006-10-06 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
k with cute little skulls > > imprinted. > > I did find Andy's claim that he expected contributors to sing a > copyright transfer agreement somewhat unreasonable. It would > depend on the tune though, I guess. Such agreements seem to be nothing special within Software Busine

Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by Mr. Andy Singleton

2006-10-06 Thread Paul McGuire
"Erik Max Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Steve Holden wrote: > >> I have to say I find the colour of your socks *much* more interesting. > > Especially what with the skulls and all. > Yeah, where'd you get those socks? (Halloweens a-comin') :) -- Paul

Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by Mr. Andy Singleton

2006-10-06 Thread Lawrence Oluyede
Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and once more: this topic _is_ appropriate for a python / ruby / java > crosspost. > > really very important (if you don't look to much at the subject but the > message contents). I really don't understand why your public announcement should be in topi

Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by Mr. Andy Singleton

2006-10-06 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
eep black with cute little skulls >> imprinted. > > I did find Andy's claim that he expected contributors to sing a > copyright transfer agreement somewhat unreasonable. It would > depend on the tune though, I guess. There are lots of people out there how require such things

Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by Mr. Andy Singleton

2006-10-06 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
hanumizzle schrieb: > On 10/6/06, Diez B. Roggisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> This is on the same level of interest to the communities of python, ruby >> & java as the color of my socks this morning - a deep black with cute >> little skulls imprinted. > > Where did you get these? You can bu

Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by Mr. Andy Singleton

2006-10-06 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: > This is on the same level of interest to the communities of python, ruby > & java as the color of my socks this morning - a deep black with cute > little skulls imprinted. are they perhaps red or green? and look something like the skulls on this: http://www.rust

Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by Mr. Andy Singleton

2006-10-06 Thread Erik Max Francis
Steve Holden wrote: > I have to say I find the colour of your socks *much* more interesting. Especially what with the skulls and all. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM, Y!M erikmaxfrancis Can I lay with you

Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by Mr. Andy Singleton

2006-10-06 Thread hanumizzle
On 10/6/06, Diez B. Roggisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is on the same level of interest to the communities of python, ruby > & java as the color of my socks this morning - a deep black with cute > little skulls imprinted. Where did you get these? -- Theerasak -- http://mail.python.org/m

Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by Mr. Andy Singleton

2006-10-06 Thread Richard Brodie
I did find Andy's claim that he expected contributors to sing a copyright transfer agreement somewhat unreasonable. It would depend on the tune though, I guess. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by Mr. Andy Singleton

2006-10-06 Thread Steve Holden
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: [...] > >>really very important (if you don't look to much at the subject but the >>message contents). > > > All that I have seen were some accusations + a few ridiculously small > subversion entries that showed default parameters changed and the like. > > This is on th

Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by Mr. Andy Singleton

2006-10-06 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
>> No, you should have found a forum where you know that the topic is >> appropriate -- even if that restricts it to your own website. > > ??? my website is not a forum (and I'm currently reducing it to the > minimum necessary information.) You obviously lack the skill to comprehend that a forum

Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by Mr. Andy Singleton

2006-10-06 Thread Steve Holden
you already have your >>website. Mailing lists and other discussion forums have conventions >>about "topic" for a good reason. > > > of course. > > >>>http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/Host >>>http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/License >>

Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by Mr. Andy Singleton

2006-10-05 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
iscussion forums have conventions > about "topic" for a good reason. of course. > > http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/Host > > http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/License > > http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/Copyright > > > > I should have posted them immedi

Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by Mr. Andy Singleton

2006-10-05 Thread Ben Finney
opic" for a good reason. > http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/Host > http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/License > http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/Copyright > > I should have posted them immediately. No, you should have found a forum where you know that the topic is appropri

Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by Mr. Andy Singleton

2006-10-05 Thread Erik Max Francis
Ilias Lazaridis wrote: > please relax and do not speak for all current and future readers > (archives). He may not be speaking for all of them, but he's speaking for the vast majority. You are a consummate pest. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jos

Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by Mr. Andy Singleton

2006-10-05 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
it it is difficult to detect that this post is in-topic. But it is. And the crosspost is valid, too. The key for it's validity is within those two topics (to which the original post connects): http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/Host http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/License http://case.lazaridis

Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by Mr. Andy Singleton

2006-10-05 Thread Paul McGuire
"Ilias Lazaridis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > . > -- http://lazaridis.com WHAT IS THIS CRAP DOING ON THIS NEWSGROUP???!!! IT IS UNWANTED AND UNWELCOME!!! If you want to make some sort of public notice of your aggrievement with Assembla, Breakout, Mr. Si

Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by Mr. Andy Singleton

2006-10-05 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
: Andy Singleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> followup to: c.l.ruby >> >> Despite several notifications, Mr. Andy Singleton of Assembla Inc. >> continues to keep my contributions within the breakout project, >> without payment of the related invoices, violating this w

Copyright lawyer advises "be careful" using Python?

2006-09-26 Thread johnzenger
I was scanning the 9/13/2006 issue of the "Electronic Commerce & Law Report," which is a newsletter for lawyers published by BNA. They have an article headlined "Game Developers Making Tomorrow's Hits Face Host of Copyright Issues Along the Way," and the article is

Re: Copyright lawyer advises "be careful" using Python?

2006-09-26 Thread Duncan Booth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is the PSF that much different from any other open source license? Only in not having a copyleft and therefore being potentially usable by companies wishing to develop closed software. Generally such companies wouldn't even consider using GPL'd software so they don't

Re: Copyright [was Re: Python Obfuscation]

2005-11-14 Thread garabik-news-2005-05
Erik Max Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > >> Depends on the country's laws and the exact agreement. > > Work for hire is part of the Berne convention. > According to recent (2003) Slovak copyright law, ONLY the individual aut

Re: Copyright [was Re: Python Obfuscation]

2005-11-13 Thread David T
first post to this thread earlier today. It follows at the end of this post. On Nov 13, 2005, at 7:28 PM, Alex Martelli wrote: > David T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >> Tom Edison moved to California so _he_ could skirt copyright laws of > > I'm not aware of any m

Re: Copyright [was Re: Python Obfuscation]

2005-11-13 Thread Alex Martelli
David T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > Tom Edison moved to California so _he_ could skirt copyright laws of I'm not aware of any move to California for either the better-known Thomas Alva Edison, or his lesser-known and less successful son of the same name. Could you clari

Re: Copyright

2005-11-13 Thread Robert Kern
sewhere. > > It's got as much right to be here as the copyright crap. And I'm > trying to keep it to the minimum required to refute the political crap > I'm answering. Off-topic responses are just as off-topic as the off-topic posts they are responding to. Take 'em off-

Re: Copyright [was Re: Python Obfuscation]

2005-11-13 Thread Erik Max Francis
Steven D'Aprano wrote: > That is *not* generally true, although it is true in certain industries, > such as newspapers. It is true in many industries, including the software industry. My point was that the creator of a work and the copyright holder and not necessarily one and the s

Re: Copyright [was Re: Python Obfuscation]

2005-11-13 Thread Erik Max Francis
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > Depends on the country's laws and the exact agreement. Work for hire is part of the Berne convention. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis Life is painting a picture, n

Re: Copyright [was Re: Python Obfuscation]

2005-11-13 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 13:16:43 -0800, Erik Max Francis wrote: > David T wrote: > >> Individuals, and perhaps groups of individuals are the creators of >> works. > > When someone pays you to create a work, then they own the copyright, not > you. It's cal

Re: Copyright

2005-11-13 Thread Mike Meyer
Erik Max Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mike Meyer wrote: >> Further, recent evidence is that this is no longer true in that >> country, assuming it ever was. > Oh, please. Take the political crap elsewhere. It's got as much right to be here as the copyright

Re: Copyright [was Re: Python Obfuscation]

2005-11-13 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Erik Max Francis a écrit : > David T wrote: > >> Individuals, and perhaps groups of individuals are the creators of >> works. > > > When someone pays you to create a work, then they own the copyright, Depends on the country's laws and the exact agreement. --

Re: Copyright

2005-11-13 Thread Mike Meyer
e running the country did so for the people. >>Copyright by itself does not pay >>the rent, put food on the table or put people through college. It's >>strong enough to be do that *if* the public values what you create >>enough and *if* you work hard enough at marketin

Re: Copyright [was Re: Python obfuscation]

2005-11-13 Thread Erik Max Francis
Mike Meyer wrote: > Further, recent evidence is that this is no longer true in that > country, assuming it ever was. Oh, please. Take the political crap elsewhere. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfranci

Re: Copyright [was Re: Python Obfuscation]

2005-11-13 Thread Erik Max Francis
David T wrote: > Individuals, and perhaps groups of individuals are the creators of > works. When someone pays you to create a work, then they own the copyright, not you. It's called work for hire. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone

Re: Copyright [was Re: Python obfuscation]

2005-11-13 Thread The Eternal Squire
e US, which explicitly has "We The People" in our Constitution, but to all other countries who model on republican systems: Japan, Germany, France, South Korea, Taiwan, and more. >Further, recent evidence is that this is no longer true in that >country, assuming it ever was. Wow, how

Re: Copyright [was Re: Python obfuscation]

2005-11-12 Thread Mike Meyer
"The Eternal Squire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>Copyright is a gift granted by the government, not the natural state of >>the world. When kings and emperors and presidents give commercial and >>economic gifts, like monopolies, they rarely are for the benefit of

Re: Copyright [was Re: Python obfuscation]

2005-11-12 Thread The Eternal Squire
>Perhaps there is no way to make a living from writing novels without >copyright. There is no way to make a living from playing solitaire either >-- should the government pass a law giving a legal monopoly on playing red >queen on a black king to my granny, so that everyone playing th

[OT] Copyright [was Re: Python obfuscation]

2005-11-12 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 23:22:45 -0800, The Eternal Squire wrote: > Without copyright, how could one possibly earn a living writing a > novel? I don't know. How did William Shakespeare make a living from writing plays and sonnets and poems? How did Sir Walter Scott make a living f