Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-24 Thread bob gailer
I had offered to provide some off-line tutoring. My reaction is exactly what you are saying - he needs to learn the basics. The code he sent me (after much asking to see some code) was buggy, and a lot of it were the various suggestions we all made. I feel for indar. He is in over his head. I

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-24 Thread Piet van Oostrum
indar kumar writes: > On Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:21:42 PM UTC-7, indar kumar wrote: >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I want to show a code for review but afraid of plagiarism issues. >> Kindly, suggest how can I post it for review here without masking it >> visible for public > > Can I do the following

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-24 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:15:51 -0800, indar kumar wrote: > What if I want to search for a particular value inside the lists of all > keys except one that user inputs and also want to print that value. Then go right ahead and do so. You are learning Python, so this should be covered in your course.

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-23 Thread indar kumar
On Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:21:42 PM UTC-7, indar kumar wrote: > Hi, > > > > I want to show a code for review but afraid of plagiarism issues. Kindly, > suggest how can I post it for review here without masking it visible for > public Yes now I want to search for an ip that user has input

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-23 Thread Rustom Mody
On Friday, January 24, 2014 8:45:51 AM UTC+5:30, indar kumar wrote: > On Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:21:42 PM UTC-7, indar kumar wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > I want to show a code for review but afraid of plagiarism issues. Kindly, > > suggest how can I post it for review here

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-23 Thread indar kumar
On Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:21:42 PM UTC-7, indar kumar wrote: > Hi, > > > > I want to show a code for review but afraid of plagiarism issues. Kindly, > suggest how can I post it for review here without masking it visible for > public Thanks config_database={'PC2': ['02:02:02:02:02:02',

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-23 Thread indar kumar
On Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:21:42 PM UTC-7, indar kumar wrote: > Hi, > > > > I want to show a code for review but afraid of plagiarism issues. Kindly, > suggest how can I post it for review here without masking it visible for > public Can I do the following to just get the value as string

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-23 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 1/23/2014 1:34 PM, indar kumar wrote: On Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:21:42 PM UTC-7, indar kumar wrote: Hi, I want to show a code for review but afraid of plagiarism issues. Kindly, suggest how can I post it for review here without masking it visible for public Just the value e.g.01:01

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-23 Thread indar kumar
On Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:21:42 PM UTC-7, indar kumar wrote: > Hi, > > > > I want to show a code for review but afraid of plagiarism issues. Kindly, > suggest how can I post it for review here without masking it visible for > public Just the value e.g.01:01:01:01:01:01 not the list --

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-23 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 1/23/2014 1:15 PM, indar kumar wrote: On Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:21:42 PM UTC-7, indar kumar wrote: Hi, I want to show a code for review but afraid of plagiarism issues. Kindly, suggest how can I post it for review here without masking it visible for public hosts={'PC2':['02:02:02:

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-23 Thread indar kumar
On Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:21:42 PM UTC-7, indar kumar wrote: > Hi, > > > > I want to show a code for review but afraid of plagiarism issues. Kindly, > suggest how can I post it for review here without masking it visible for > public hosts={'PC2':['02:02:02:02:02:02', '192.168.0.2', '200

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-23 Thread indar kumar
On Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:21:42 PM UTC-7, indar kumar wrote: > Hi, > > > > I want to show a code for review but afraid of plagiarism issues. Kindly, > suggest how can I post it for review here without masking it visible for > public Thank You I have found this forum very helping...GOD

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-23 Thread Asaf Las
On Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:57:02 AM UTC+2, indar kumar wrote: > On Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:21:42 PM UTC-7, indar kumar wrote: > I just need to print first element of tuple not the whole in hierarchies do steps level by level, that will make things much easier: hosts={'PC2':['02:02:02:02

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-23 Thread indar kumar
On Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:21:42 PM UTC-7, indar kumar wrote: > Hi, > > > > I want to show a code for review but afraid of plagiarism issues. Kindly, > suggest how can I post it for review here without masking it visible for > public I just need to print first element of tuple not the wh

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-22 Thread indar kumar
On Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:21:42 PM UTC-7, indar kumar wrote: > Hi, > > > > I want to show a code for review but afraid of plagiarism issues. Kindly, > suggest how can I post it for review here without masking it visible for > public Thanks for kind help. I have following nested diction

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-22 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 00:36:17 -0800, indar kumar wrote: > So my question is if I am giving multiple inputs(a new device say for > example) in a loop and creating a database(dictionary) for each new > devices for example. I want subsequent devices to save their data(values > only not keys) to the da

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-22 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 1/22/14 12:09 PM, indar kumar wrote: On Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:21:42 PM UTC-7, indar kumar wrote: Hi, I want to show a code for review but afraid of plagiarism issues. Kindly, suggest how can I post it for review here without masking it visible for public Just one hint and I have

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-22 Thread indar kumar
On Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:21:42 PM UTC-7, indar kumar wrote: > Hi, > > > > I want to show a code for review but afraid of plagiarism issues. Kindly, > suggest how can I post it for review here without masking it visible for > public Just one hint and I have made the design for whole cod

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-22 Thread indar kumar
On Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:21:42 PM UTC-7, indar kumar wrote: > Hi, > > > > I want to show a code for review but afraid of plagiarism issues. Kindly, > suggest how can I post it for review here without masking it visible for > public I need to implement this with simple dictionarie. I kn

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-22 Thread indar kumar
On Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:21:42 PM UTC-7, indar kumar wrote: > Hi, > > > > I want to show a code for review but afraid of plagiarism issues. Kindly, > suggest how can I post it for review here without masking it visible for > public Any link related to such type of problems or logic wou

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-22 Thread Rustom Mody
On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 2:06:17 PM UTC+5:30, indar kumar wrote: > So my question is if I am giving multiple inputs(a new device say > for example) in a loop and creating a database(dictionary) for each > new devices for example. I want subsequent devices to save their > data(values only not

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-22 Thread indar kumar
On Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:21:42 PM UTC-7, indar kumar wrote: > Hi, > > > > I want to show a code for review but afraid of plagiarism issues. Kindly, > suggest how can I post it for review here without masking it visible for > public Description of each of the commands: • config ◦ Param

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-22 Thread indar kumar
On Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:21:42 PM UTC-7, indar kumar wrote: > Hi, > > > > I want to show a code for review but afraid of plagiarism issues. Kindly, > suggest how can I post it for review here without masking it visible for > public This is a gratuitous arp request http://wiki.wireshark

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-22 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2014-01-22, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Do you notice the assumption made? Let me highlight it for you: > >THE WORDS OF OTHERS > > The hidden assumption here is that *words are property*, that > they belong to whomever first publishes them. Having now > written those few words, nobody else is

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-22 Thread indar kumar
On Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:21:42 PM UTC-7, indar kumar wrote: > Hi, > > > > I want to show a code for review but afraid of plagiarism issues. Kindly, > suggest how can I post it for review here without masking it visible for > public Pleae give example also. I will be thankful. -- https

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-22 Thread indar kumar
So my question is if I am giving multiple inputs(a new device say for example) in a loop and creating a database(dictionary) for each new devices for example. I want subsequent devices to save their data(values only not keys) to the database of each of the already existing devices. How can I do

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-21 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Rustom Mody wrote: > I was working in a large sw-development company some years ago. > One day unexpectedly I found I could not download any more the FOSS sw > I regularly use. What happened?? > > Evidently a programmer had copied GPL code off the net, passed it off > as his own,

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-21 Thread Rustom Mody
On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 6:21:37 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:17:35 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > indar kumar writes: > >> Hint would have been enough but I was strictly discouraged. > > You asked for private help, specifically to subvert the rules against > >

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-21 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:17:35 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > indar kumar writes: > >> Hint would have been enough but I was strictly discouraged. > > You asked for private help, specifically to subvert the rules against > plagiarism you're subject to. > > So no, I don't believe this modification of

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-21 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 18:39:44 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > But sometimes different skills are being examined, and the student > should be exercising skills on their own without basing it directly on > the work of others. In these cases, penalties for plagiarism are > appropriate, would you agree? Ho

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-21 Thread Steven D'Aprano
Hi Indar, On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 23:55:59 -0800, indar kumar wrote: > If you allow me I can post a small part of that assignment, it just > requires the manipulation with dictionary which I am not getting. I am > not asking to write a code for me. But a small hint would get me out of > trouble. In

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-21 Thread Dan Sommers
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:32:13 +, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > ... When you set assignments the students will usually learn more if > they work in groups. However at some point you need to try and assess > how much they've individually learned. I find in practice that it's > easy to tell when a stude

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-21 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 12:47:41AM +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 09:08:28 -0500, Roy Smith wrote: > > > In article , > > Chris Angelico wrote: > > > >> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Dan Stromberg > >> wrote: > >> > I did a short time of teaching while I was in school.

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-20 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 09:08:28 -0500, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Chris Angelico wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Dan Stromberg >> wrote: >> > I did a short time of teaching while I was in school. If three >> > students all turned in the same assignment, they all got docked >>

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-20 Thread Terry Reedy
On 1/20/2014 9:08 AM, Roy Smith wrote: That's a little harsh. Working in groups, and sharing code, are important parts of how software gets developed today. Those collaborative work habits should indeed be taught. Until recently, teaching collaboration through group projects has had the pro

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-20 Thread Rustom Mody
On Monday, January 20, 2014 7:38:28 PM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote: > Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Dan Stromberg wrote: > > > I did a short time of teaching while I was in school. If three > > > students all turned in the same assignment, they all got docked > > > sig

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-20 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Dan Stromberg wrote: > > I did a short time of teaching while I was in school. If three > > students all turned in the same assignment, they all got docked > > significantly. There was no "who copied off of whom?", it was >

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-20 Thread Alister
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 23:55:59 -0800, indar kumar wrote: > Thanks all for help and positive comments. Actually, I tried to ask some > questions but I was discouraged to do so saying that I was working on a > project or some assignment. Truth be told I am stuck at one point and > since I don't have e

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-20 Thread bryan rasmussen
>When you take a course, you should be learning, not just passing. That >means that getting someone else to do your work for you is completely >wrong, so I won't help you. I have decided to become an MBA. On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 6:55 PM

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-20 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 6:55 PM, indar kumar wrote: > Actually, I tried to ask some questions but I was discouraged to do so saying > that I was working on a project or some assignment. Truth be told I am stuck > at one point and since I don't have experience with programming language, I > have

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-20 Thread Ben Finney
indar kumar writes: > Hint would have been enough but I was strictly discouraged. You asked for private help, specifically to subvert the rules against plagiarism you're subject to. So no, I don't believe this modification of your request to be sincere. You asked for help cheating, and you were

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-20 Thread Ben Finney
Chris Angelico writes: > If Fred writes something and Bill copies it without acknowledging > Fred's work, then Bill should be penalized. That much is clear. The situation is where a student is being examined for skills where it's appropriate to test the student's own skill with a reasonable leve

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-20 Thread indar kumar
Thanks all for help and positive comments. Actually, I tried to ask some questions but I was discouraged to do so saying that I was working on a project or some assignment. Truth be told I am stuck at one point and since I don't have experience with programming language, I have been working for

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-20 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > But sometimes different skills are being examined, and the student > should be exercising skills on their own without basing it directly on > the work of others. In these cases, penalties for plagiarism are > appropriate, would you agree? If Fr

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-19 Thread Ben Finney
Chris Angelico writes: > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Dan Stromberg wrote: > > I did a short time of teaching while I was in school. If three > > students all turned in the same assignment, they all got docked > > significantly. There was no "who copied off of whom?", it was > > "someone sha

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Dan Stromberg wrote: > I did a short time of teaching while I was in school. If three > students all turned in the same assignment, they all got docked > significantly. There was no "who copied off of whom?", it was > "someone shared when they shouldn't have." W

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-19 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 14:32:21 -0800, indar kumar wrote: > >> @Roy Smith >> >> Can you help me privately because its an assignment and have to submit >> plagiarism free > > Then don't plagiarise. > > > Plagiarism means YOU copy other people.

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-19 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-01-18, indar kumar wrote: > I want to show a code for review but afraid of plagiarism issues. > Kindly, suggest how can I post it for review here without masking it > visible for public http://www.python.org/community/jobs/ I'm sure once you've agreed on contract and payment terms with

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-18 Thread Devin Jeanpierre
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Plagiarism means YOU copy other people. You shouldn't get in trouble > because other people copy you. Normally, both the person copying and the person who gave away their work to be copied are punished. It simplifies figuring out who to p

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-18 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 14:32:21 -0800, indar kumar wrote: > @Roy Smith > > Can you help me privately because its an assignment and have to submit > plagiarism free Then don't plagiarise. Plagiarism means YOU copy other people. You shouldn't get in trouble because other people copy you. Talk to

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-18 Thread Ben Finney
indar kumar writes: > Can you help me privately because its an assignment and have to submit > plagiarism free Then the point of the assignment is defeated by seeking help here. Hopefully your instructors also read this forum and are now aware you are seeking to subvert the anti-plagiarism rule

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-18 Thread Ben Finney
indar kumar writes: > I want to show a code for review but afraid of plagiarism issues. Why? What solid basis do you have to fear someone plagiarising code that you want reviewed? There is already a vast amount of code licensed freely for anyone to use and derive from. What would make yours esp

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 9:32 AM, indar kumar wrote: > @Roy Smith > > Can you help me privately because its an assignment and have to submit > plagiarism free Are you sure the requirement precludes you posting your code? More likely, the rule is that you may not copy someone else's. When it's pos

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-18 Thread Roy Smith
In article , indar kumar wrote: > @Roy Smith > > Can you help me privately Sorry, no. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-18 Thread indar kumar
@Roy Smith Can you help me privately because its an assignment and have to submit plagiarism free -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-18 Thread Roy Smith
In article , indar kumar wrote: > Hi, > > I want to show a code for review but afraid of plagiarism issues. Kindly, > suggest how can I post it for review here without masking it visible for > public You can't. This is a public forum. One of the reasons people are willing to answer basic

Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-18 Thread indar kumar
Hi, I want to show a code for review but afraid of plagiarism issues. Kindly, suggest how can I post it for review here without masking it visible for public -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list