Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 05 March 2013 06:54:14 Mark Lawrence did opine: > On 05/03/2013 02:54, Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Steven D'Aprano > > > > wrote: > >> It's easy for him to > >> deal with it, all he has to do is get a goat to eat the garden waste > >> I toss over the fenc

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-05 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 05/03/2013 02:54, Chris Angelico wrote: On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: It's easy for him to deal with it, all he has to do is get a goat to eat the garden waste I toss over the fence, and his problem is solved. Sounds like someone got Steven's goat. *dives for cove

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-05 Thread James Griffin
[- Tue 5.Mar'13 at 2:42:07 + Steven D'Aprano :-] > On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 11:09:10 -0500, David Robinow wrote: > > > But here's what I don't understand. Why does somebody who posts as > > much as Steven (and thanks for that. Getting cussed at occasionally is a > > cheap pric

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 04 March 2013 23:00:31 Chris Angelico did opine: > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Steven D'Aprano > > wrote: > > It's easy for him to > > deal with it, all he has to do is get a goat to eat the garden waste I > > toss over the fence, and his problem is solved. > > Sounds like someone

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-04 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > It's easy for him to > deal with it, all he has to do is get a goat to eat the garden waste I > toss over the fence, and his problem is solved. Sounds like someone got Steven's goat. *dives for cover* ChrisA -- http://mail.python.org/mai

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-04 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 11:09:10 -0500, David Robinow wrote: > But here's what I don't understand. Why does somebody who posts as > much as Steven (and thanks for that. Getting cussed at occasionally is a > cheap price for all the free advice) not set up a simple mail filter > which trashes all mail

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-04 Thread Dave Angel
On 03/04/2013 11:15 AM, David Robinow wrote: Crap. I just forgot to do what I just said I would do and didn't go through my "inconvenient" sequence. Sorry, Steven. It was unintentional. FWIW, you don't have to bother moving the python-list address to a To: field. Just remove the personal add

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-04 Thread David Robinow
Crap. I just forgot to do what I just said I would do and didn't go through my "inconvenient" sequence. Sorry, Steven. It was unintentional. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-04 Thread David Robinow
Ignoring my own posting ban, since I've clearly been misunderstood .. On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 21:11:04 -0500, David Robinow wrote: > >> Do you consider it rude that you choose to use a newsreader, thus >> inconveniencing those of us who use th

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-03 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 23:00:13 -0500, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: > On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: >> How the flying fuck does my choice of where and how *I* read this forum >> inconvenience YOU? >> >> Talk about an overactive sense of entitlement. The world does not >> revol

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-03 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 03:21:37 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 21:11:04 -0500, David Robinow wrote: >> Do you consider it rude that you choose to use a newsreader, thus >> inconveniencing those of us who use the mailing list, as God intended. > > How the flying fuck does my ch

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread Devin Jeanpierre
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > How the flying fuck does my choice of where and how *I* read this forum > inconvenience YOU? > > Talk about an overactive sense of entitlement. The world does not revolve > around you and I do not arrange my day to suit your preferences. I

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 2:18 PM, David Robinow wrote: > On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:06 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> But your mail has only what you receive. You have to hunt down a >> separate archive of what was posted before you joined the thread. >> Advantage goes to news, but a slight one, and i

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread David Robinow
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:06 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 2:01 PM, David Robinow wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Roy Smith wrote: >>> There's a number of advantages to news vs. mail. The biggest is that >>> news spools generally keep a long history around, so it'

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 21:11:04 -0500, David Robinow wrote: > On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: >> On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 09:53:47 -0500, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Chris Angelico >>> wrote: Yes, but reply-all sends a copy to the poster a

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 19:42:50 -0500, Roy Smith wrote: > In article <513298fa$0$30001$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>, > Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >> On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 09:53:47 -0500, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: >> >> > On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Chris Angelico >> > wrote: >> >> Yes, but

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 2:01 PM, David Robinow wrote: > On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Roy Smith wrote: >> There's a number of advantages to news vs. mail. The biggest is that >> news spools generally keep a long history around, so it's easy to go >> back and review a long thread. > That can't

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread David Robinow
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > David Robinow wrote: > >> On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Steven D'Aprano >> wrote: >> > On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 09:53:47 -0500, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: >> > >> >> On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >>> Yes, bu

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread Roy Smith
In article , David Robinow wrote: > On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: > > On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 09:53:47 -0500, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: > > > >> On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > >>> Yes, but reply-all sends a copy to the poster as well as the list. W

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread David Robinow
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 09:53:47 -0500, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: > >> On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> Yes, but reply-all sends a copy to the poster as well as the list. What >>> I want is reply-list, acknowledging the l

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread Roy Smith
In article <513298fa$0$30001$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 09:53:47 -0500, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> Yes, but reply-all sends a copy to the poster as well as the list. What > >> I

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 09:53:47 -0500, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: > On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> Yes, but reply-all sends a copy to the poster as well as the list. What >> I want is reply-list, acknowledging the list headers... and Gmail >> simply doesn't have that. > > I'v

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2013-03-02 Thread Ethan Furman
On 03/02/2013 12:06 AM, James Griffin wrote: [- Sat 2.Mar'13 at 17:54:57 +1100 Chris Angelico :-] I also want to be able to change my mind as to whether it's reply-all/reply-list/reply-sender after typing up a reply. Guess it's time I grabbed Tbird to find out if it can do that

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread Tim Golden
On 02/03/2013 14:53, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: Yes, but reply-all sends a copy to the poster as well as the list. What I want is reply-list, acknowledging the list headers... and Gmail simply doesn't have that. I've been replying to the post

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread Devin Jeanpierre
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > Yes, but reply-all sends a copy to the poster as well as the list. > What I want is reply-list, acknowledging the list headers... and Gmail > simply doesn't have that. I've been replying to the poster and the list for ages. Is it bad netique

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread James Griffin
[- Sat 2.Mar'13 at 17:54:57 +1100 Chris Angelico :-] > On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Devin Jeanpierre > wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > >>> No offence Chris, but you're the only person I know who *regularly* > >>> replies to the wrong list

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-01 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> No offence Chris, but you're the only person I know who *regularly* >>> replies to the wrong list. Does your mail client not have a "Reply to >>> List" command, or "Reply All"? If

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-01 Thread Devin Jeanpierre
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> No offence Chris, but you're the only person I know who *regularly* >> replies to the wrong list. Does your mail client not have a "Reply to >> List" command, or "Reply All"? If so, then you should use it rather than >> manually typing the

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-01 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 04:07:19 +1100, Chris Angelico replied to a thread of > Python-ideas: > >> You're asking for a facility whereby variables magically get pulled from >> the caller's scope. > > As interesting as that is, I think you sent i

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-01 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 04:07:19 +1100, Chris Angelico replied to a thread of Python-ideas: > You're asking for a facility whereby variables magically get pulled from > the caller's scope. As interesting as that is, I think you sent it to the wrong list :) Again. O_o No offence Chris, but you're

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-01 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 3:55 AM, 김용빈 wrote: > why we bother with '{variable}'.format(variable=variable) ? > can we just '{variable}.format()' ? > > if variable is exist, then assign it. > if variable is not exist, then raise error > > I am not language expert. so sorry if this is not a good idea, o