Re: [Fwd: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages] <-- Why Python

2005-02-21 Thread Mike Meyer
Ville Vainio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "Mike" == Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Mike> IPython's pysh seems a little clumsy for interactive use, as > Mike> it requires special characters to distinguish between > Mike> commands to be passed to the shell and commands

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages] <-- Why Python

2005-02-21 Thread Ville Vainio
> "Mike" == Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mike> I've actually done some work on using CORBA as a COM for Mike> Unix (or, as I think of it, an ARexx for Unix). After being Mike> exposed to Plan 9, I've decided that's a better Mike> solution. CORBA has the advantage that

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages] <-- Why Python

2005-02-21 Thread Ville Vainio
> "Mike" == Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mike> IPython's pysh seems a little clumsy for interactive use, as Mike> it requires special characters to distinguish between Mike> commands to be passed to the shell and commands to be passed Mike> to the scripting language.

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages] <-- Why Python

2005-02-20 Thread Mike Meyer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Boddie) writes: > Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... >> Arich Chanachai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > When the CLR is integrated, it will allow a wide array of problem >> > solving choices for uuu users. >> >> You've missed t

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages] <-- Why Python

2005-02-20 Thread Mike Meyer
Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mike Meyer wrote: >> Arich Chanachai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>>Mike Meyer wrote: >>> Whatever the intentions may be, the *act* is one of dictation. Since the point of the underlying OS is to increase the interconnections between applic

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages] <-- Why Python

2005-02-20 Thread Ville Vainio
> "Donn" == Donn Cave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Donn> I don't know what the Windows version is like, but for all Donn> the UNIX shell's weaknesses, it's very well suited to its Donn> role. The Plan 9 I don't know about that - I don't see anything in shell that couldn't be done

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages] <-- Why Python

2005-02-20 Thread Paul Boddie
Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > Arich Chanachai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > When the CLR is integrated, it will allow a wide array of problem > > solving choices for uuu users. > > You've missed the point. Allowing a wide array of problem solvin

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages] <-- Why Python

2005-02-19 Thread Donn Cave
Quoth Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [... re Python OS interface vs. language-generic model ] | *Allowing* other languages is one thing, but that shouldn't preclude having a | 'default' language. On other OS's, the default language is some form of shell | scripting (i.e. Unix shell scripts, o

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages] <-- Why Python

2005-02-19 Thread Nick Coghlan
Paul Rubin wrote: Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Compare out-of-the-box Python: a = 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 And out-of-the-box Lisp: (setq a (+ 1 2 3 4)) Which language has the lower barrier for entry? That should be a fairly important consideration for a language that is going to sit at the he

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages] <-- Why Python

2005-02-19 Thread Paul Rubin
Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Compare out-of-the-box Python: >a = 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 > > And out-of-the-box Lisp: >(setq a (+ 1 2 3 4)) > > Which language has the lower barrier for entry? That should be a > fairly important consideration for a language that is going to sit at > th

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages] <-- Why Python

2005-02-19 Thread Nick Coghlan
Mike Meyer wrote: Arich Chanachai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mike Meyer wrote: Whatever the intentions may be, the *act* is one of dictation. Since the point of the underlying OS is to increase the interconnections between applications (assuming I've found the correct web page and interpreted it

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages] <-- Why Python

2005-02-18 Thread Mike Meyer
Arich Chanachai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mike Meyer wrote: >>Whatever the intentions may be, the *act* is one of dictation. Since >>the point of the underlying OS is to increase the interconnections >>between applications (assuming I've found the correct web page and >>interpreted it correctl

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages] <-- Why Python

2005-02-17 Thread Ville Vainio
> "Arich" == Arich Chanachai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Arich> From: "Richard Taytor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Arich> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Arich> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:28 PM Arich> Subject: [Uuu-devel] languages >> First, thank you for Unununium. I first lear

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages] <-- Why Python

2005-02-17 Thread Arich Chanachai
Mike Meyer wrote: Arich Chanachai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mike Meyer wrote: Arich Chanachai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: These last two points kind of diverge from the point, no? What I mean is that we want to present the argument of why Python is the best choice as THE built-in

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages] <-- Why Python

2005-02-17 Thread Mike Meyer
Arich Chanachai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mike Meyer wrote: >>Arich Chanachai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>These last two points kind of diverge from the point, no? What I mean >>>is that we want to present the argument of why Python is the best >>>choice as THE built-in programming language

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages] <-- Why Python

2005-02-17 Thread Arich Chanachai
Mike Meyer wrote: Arich Chanachai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: These last two points kind of diverge from the point, no? What I mean is that we want to present the argument of why Python is the best choice as THE built-in programming language for the revolutionary uuu operating system. A ne

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages] <-- Why Python

2005-02-17 Thread Mike Meyer
Arich Chanachai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > These last two points kind of diverge from the point, no? What I mean > is that we want to present the argument of why Python is the best > choice as THE built-in programming language for the revolutionary uuu > operating system. A new operating syst

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages] <-- Why Python

2005-02-17 Thread pythonUser_07
I see your point. Consider points 2 and 3 a nice side effect. The language I favor actually ties into the environment I am working in: Python for rapid prototyping, java for larger projects where the eclipse IDE comes in very handy. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages] <-- Why Python

2005-02-17 Thread Arich Chanachai
pythonUser_07 wrote: Some quick thoughts. 1- Python is not new relatively speaking. Quite true, good point. 2)- Python is a natural language for learning basic scripting, but can carry you through to object oriented program. 3)- Knowing python, instantly gets you access to jython. I've found jy

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages] <-- Why Python

2005-02-17 Thread pythonUser_07
Some quick thoughts. 1- Python is not new relatively speaking. 2)- Python is a natural language for learning basic scripting, but can carry you through to object oriented program. 3)- Knowing python, instantly gets you access to jython. I've found jython incredibly helpful in learning java. F

[Fwd: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages] <-- Why Python

2005-02-17 Thread Arich Chanachai
I consider this to be a good question. I just started to learn Python and I like it. I don't know about Lisp however... The problem, IMHO, in creating a new language is that we are losing code reusability... we will be able to port python applications very easily... I don't have a clear idea on