Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-29 Thread James Stroud
bruce wrote: > but you know... > > one could simply hit the delete/skip button when you see a msg you don't > like!!! or email/spam filters... or you can spend more time complaining.. in > life, you gotta' learn to pick your battles... > > peace.. > Bruce: You may want to check your mail reade

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-29 Thread Terry Reedy
"Tagore Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > The only thing really wrong with Xah's post is that it was crossposted > to several groups. I think the content of repeatedly slandering people as criminals, because of technical disagreements, is even more abusive. t

RE: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-29 Thread bruce
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tagore Smith Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 9:43 PM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism) John Bokma wrote: > "Tagore Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Your emails to

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-29 Thread John Bokma
"Tagore Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: [ .. ] >> An excessive crosspost is hardly ever on topic. > > Now you are just being dishonest. In what way? > No- if it were you would no longer have internet access. Try me. -- John MexIT: http:

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-29 Thread Tagore Smith
John Bokma wrote: > "Tagore Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Try > > sending mail to abuse at (any of my) desmesne(s). You won't get a > > response- in fact, no-one will read your mail. > > Then you come close to being RFC ignorant IMO. Couldn't be bothered to > check it out. I don't care

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-28 Thread John Bokma
"Tagore Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Try > sending mail to abuse at (any of my) desmesne(s). You won't get a > response- in fact, no-one will read your mail. Then you come close to being RFC ignorant IMO. Couldn't be bothered to check it out. > I'm not sure that Xah's post was offtopic,

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-28 Thread Tagore Smith
John Bokma wrote: > "Tagore Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Your emails to his ISP > > are far more wasteful- you are using up very scarce resources > > dedicated to dealing with real abuse. > > According to his hosting provider dreamhost: > > I have warned this user that excessive offtopi

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-28 Thread James Stroud
Tagore Smith wrote: > I generally enjoy his posts. You should be happy then that they have all been archived on his website for quite some time. I'm thinking of cross-posting Soren Keirkegaards _Either/Or_. Its been archived for a while now and is full of nonsensical ramblings, but I feel the

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-28 Thread John Bokma
"Tagore Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Your emails to his ISP > are far more wasteful- you are using up very scarce resources > dedicated to dealing with real abuse. According to his hosting provider dreamhost: I have warned this user that excessive offtopic cross-posting is not allowed, a

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-28 Thread Tagore Smith
John Bokma wrote: > "Tagore Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It's much easier to use a killfile than to complain to an ISP, and I > > think that that should be the preferred response to messages you don't > > like. > > No, since even if you kill file Xah Lee, he keeps wasting resources of >

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-28 Thread Tagore Smith
Kaz Kylheku wrote: > Chris Uppal wrote: > > Tagore Smith wrote: > > > > > It's much easier to use a killfile than to complain to an ISP, and I > > > think that that should be the preferred response to messages you don't > > > like. > > > > I'm inclined to agree. The problem is not Xah Lee (whom I

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-28 Thread John Bokma
"Kaz Kylheku" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is the point of killfiling Xah Lee? Xah Lee does not enter into > random debates. My point. Xah Lee doesn't follow netiquette, which is nowadays with quite some ISPs a ToS violation. [ ... ] > If you truly don't like this stuff, maybe you shoul

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-28 Thread Kaz Kylheku
Chris Uppal wrote: > Tagore Smith wrote: > > > It's much easier to use a killfile than to complain to an ISP, and I > > think that that should be the preferred response to messages you don't > > like. > > I'm inclined to agree. The problem is not Xah Lee (whom I have killfiled), > but What is t

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-28 Thread John Bokma
"Tagore Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Chris Uppal wrote: > >> I'm inclined to agree. The problem is not Xah Lee (whom I have >> killfiled), but the people who insist on making my killfile useless >> by posting loads of follow-ups saying things amounting to "stop this >> insane gibberish

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-28 Thread John Bokma
"Chris Uppal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm inclined to agree. The problem is not Xah Lee (whom I have > killfiled), but the people who insist on making my killfile useless by > posting loads of follow-ups saying things amounting to "stop this > insane gibberish". Every bloody time. Yup, an

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-28 Thread John Bokma
"Tagore Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's much easier to use a killfile than to complain to an ISP, and I > think that that should be the preferred response to messages you don't > like. No, since even if you kill file Xah Lee, he keeps wasting resources of people who have dedicated equip

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-28 Thread Takehiko Abe
> > > > Wake up, people ! You are not the victims, you are the problem. Shut up, > > > > /please/. > > > > > > Cannot agree more! > > > > > > Wake up, people ! You are not the victims, you are the problem. Shut up, > > > /please/. > > > > Wholeheartedly agree! > > > > Wake up, people ! You

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-28 Thread Tagore Smith
Chris Uppal wrote: > I'm inclined to agree. The problem is not Xah Lee (whom I have killfiled), > but > the people who insist on making my killfile useless by posting loads of > follow-ups saying things amounting to "stop this insane gibberish". ... well, this is the problem with killfiles. So

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-28 Thread Chris Uppal
Tagore Smith wrote: > It's much easier to use a killfile than to complain to an ISP, and I > think that that should be the preferred response to messages you don't > like. I'm inclined to agree. The problem is not Xah Lee (whom I have killfiled), but the people who insist on making my killfile u

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-28 Thread Tagore Smith
John Bokma wrote: > Eli Gottlieb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Oh, God, not another one. > > Instead of cross posting more garbage, do as follows: > > Email a complaint to the email addresses you can look up yourself and > include the entire message of Xah: > > http://www.spamcop.net/sc?track=7

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-27 Thread John Bokma
"gene tani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > John Bokma wrote: >> Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I leave that up to Xah's ISP/USP and hosting provider to decide :-D > > he's solidified position as top troll of 2003-2006 Maybe because people rather post a reply instead of sending an

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-26 Thread gene tani
John Bokma wrote: > Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I leave that up to Xah's ISP/USP and hosting provider to decide :-D > he's solidified position as top troll of 2003-2006 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [Reported] (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-26 Thread John Bokma
Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and if he were a troll, he would respond to each and every shusher to > increase the flames. There are several ways to troll. He writes up a rant, and let others do the flaming. He probably saves up his energy for the next rant. Like someone else wrote:

Re: [Reported] (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-26 Thread Ken Tilton
John Bokma wrote: > Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [ reported ] > >>What might stop? > > > The excessive cross posting. > > >>I see one technical post every one or few weeks from >>Xah, followed by a dozen posts from self-appointed library-sushers >>such as Eli and library-shush

Re: [Reported] (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-26 Thread James Stroud
Ken Tilton wrote: > What might stop? Nauseating misuse of English. Annoying cross-posts. Newsgroup clutter. Shusher-Shusher-Shushers like me. -- James Stroud UCLA-DOE Institute for Genomics and Proteomics Box 951570 Los Angeles, CA 90095 http://www.jamesstroud.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/m

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-26 Thread John Bokma
Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 26 Apr 2006 12:29:33 -0700, "Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote, > quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said : > >>This is a public notice that what you are trying to do is getting close >>to harrassment from the law's perspective. > > and what you

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-26 Thread John Bokma
"Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear John Bokma, > > This is a public notice that what you are trying to do is getting > close to harrassment from the law's perspective. Which law? You have been harrassing severl groups for too long with your drivel and extremely badly written rants. I

Re: [Reported] (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-26 Thread John Bokma
Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [ reported ] > What might stop? The excessive cross posting. > I see one technical post every one or few weeks from > Xah, followed by a dozen posts from self-appointed library-sushers > such as Eli and library-shusher-shushers such as you and me, none of >

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-26 Thread Roedy Green
On 26 Apr 2006 12:29:33 -0700, "Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said : >This is a public notice that what you are trying to do is getting close >to harrassment from the law's perspective. and what you do Xah, is very close to spam, another form of haras

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-26 Thread Greg Menke
Mark Thomas writes: > Xah Lee wrote: > > Dear John Bokma, > > This is a public notice that what you are trying to do is getting close > > to harrassment from the law's perspective. > > Thanks. > >Xah > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ∑ http://xahlee.org/ > > John Bokma wrote: > >> Eli Gottlieb <

Re: [Reported] (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-26 Thread Ken Tilton
John Bokma wrote: > Eli Gottlieb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Oh, God, not another one. > > > Instead of cross posting more garbage, do as follows: > > Email a complaint to the email addresses you can look up yourself and > include the entire message of Xah: > > http://www.spamcop.net/

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-26 Thread Mark Thomas
Xah Lee wrote: > Dear John Bokma, > > This is a public notice that what you are trying to do is getting close > to harrassment from the law's perspective. > > Thanks. > >Xah >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ∑ http://xahlee.org/ > > > John Bokma wrote: >> Eli Gottlieb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>

Re: (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-26 Thread Xah Lee
Dear John Bokma, This is a public notice that what you are trying to do is getting close to harrassment from the law's perspective. Thanks. Xah [EMAIL PROTECTED] ∑ http://xahlee.org/ John Bokma wrote: > Eli Gottlieb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Oh, God, not another one. > > Instead

[Reported] (was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Criticism vs Constructive Criticism)

2006-04-26 Thread John Bokma
Eli Gottlieb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, God, not another one. Instead of cross posting more garbage, do as follows: Email a complaint to the email addresses you can look up yourself and include the entire message of Xah: http://www.spamcop.net/sc?track=72.231.179.135 posting hos