On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 1:22:09 PM UTC-4, DFS wrote:
> Have:
> p1 = ['Now', 'the', 'for', 'good']
> p2 = ['is', 'time', 'all', 'men']
>
> want
> [('Now','is','the','time'), ('for','all','good','men')]
>
> This works:
>
> p = []
> for i in xrange(0,len(p1),2):
> p.insert(i,(p1[i],p2[i
On Monday, September 2, 2013 1:10:34 AM UTC-7, Paul Rubin wrote:
> "Russ P." writes:
>
> > I just stumbled across this video and found it interesting:
>
> > http://vimeo.com/72870631
>
> > My apologies if it has been posted here already.
>
>
>
I just stumbled across this video and found it interesting:
http://vimeo.com/72870631
My apologies if it has been posted here already.
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>All you need is the iterator version of map(). In Python 3, that's the
>normal map(); in Python 2, use this:
from itertools import imap
all(imap(lambda x: bool(x), xrange(10**9)))
>False
>It's roughly instant, like you would expect.
>ChrisA
This probably isn't the way to post a reply
I was mucking around, trying to code a prime sieve in one line. I don't know
about filters and bit shifting and stuff like that but I thought I could do it
with builtins, albeit a very long one line. This is the part of my stupid trick
in question that got me wondering about a key parameter for
I couldn't read every post here so don't know if this has been suggested, or if
there is perhaps a better suggestion which I haven't read in this thread, but
in as far as I've read I feel the need to recommend:
learnpythonthehardway.org
Knowing a little JavaScript and even allot of HTML doesn't
input() is a function which returns a string. You can assign this return value
to a variable. That's what variables are for.
option = input()
Now you can use the variable named option in place of all those calls to
input().
i.e:
...instead of..
if input() == 'parry':
# etc
...do this...
Just try this in the interpreter and see.
for key, value in sorted(months.items(), key=lambda x:x[1]):
print "%s %s" % (value, key)
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for key, value in sorted(months.items(), key=lambda x:x[1]):
print("""'\t%s'\n""" % (value, key))
Explanation:
- - - - - -
dict.items is a method associated with dicts just like dict.keys or
dict.values, and returns a list of (key, value) pairs.
sorted and some other builtin functions have
On Thursday, June 6, 2013 2:29:02 AM UTC-7, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 12:29:44 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Steven D'Aprano
>
> > wrote:
>
> >> On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 14:59:31
On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:29:44 PM UTC-7, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Steven D'Aprano
>
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 14:59:31 -0700, Russ P. wrote:
>
> >> As for Python, my experience with it is that, as
>
> >
On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 4:18:13 PM UTC-7, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 06/05/2013 12:11 AM, Russ P. wrote:
>
> > But then, what would you expect of a language that allows you to
>
> > write
>
> >
>
> > x = 1
>
> > x = "Hello"
>
On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 9:59:07 AM UTC-7, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Russ P. wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 1:59:01 AM UTC-7, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>
> >> I want to launch this rocket with an expensive satellite on top. I know
>
On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 1:59:01 AM UTC-7, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 05/06/2013 07:11, Russ P. wrote:
>
>
>
> > But then, what would you expect of a language that allows you to write
>
> >
>
> > x = 1
>
> > x = "Hello"
>
&
On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 12:15:57 AM UTC-7, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Russ P. wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:44:11 AM UTC-7, Rick Johnson wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> Yes, but the problem is not "my approach", rather
On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:44:11 AM UTC-7, Rick Johnson wrote:
> Yes, but the problem is not "my approach", rather the lack
>
> of proper language design (my apologizes to the "anointed
>
> one". ;-)
If you don't like implicit conversion to Boolean, then maybe you should be
using another langu
One possibility is to form the string as usual, split on the "e", format each
part separately, then rejoin with an "e".
On Tuesday, March 5, 2013 12:09:10 PM UTC-8, fa...@squashclub.org wrote:
> Instead of:
>
>
>
> 1.8e-04
>
>
>
> I need:
>
>
>
> 1.8e-004
>
>
>
> So two zeros before t
On May 3, 4:59 pm, someone wrote:
> On 05/04/2012 12:58 AM, Russ P. wrote:
>
> > Yeah, I realized that I should rephrase my previous statement to
> > something like this:
>
> > For any *empirical* engineering or scientific work, I'd say that a
> > c
ather than empirical. Still, a condition number of 1e6 would bother
me, but maybe that's just me.
--Russ P.
On May 3, 3:21 pm, someone wrote:
> On 05/03/2012 07:55 PM, Russ P. wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 3, 10:30 am, someone wrote:
> >> On 05/02/2012 11:45 PM, Russ P. wro
On May 3, 10:30 am, someone wrote:
> On 05/02/2012 11:45 PM, Russ P. wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 2, 1:29 pm, someone wrote:
>
> >>> If your data starts off with only 1 or 2 digits of accuracy, as in your
> >>> example, then the result is meaningless -
On May 2, 1:29 pm, someone wrote:
> > If your data starts off with only 1 or 2 digits of accuracy, as in your
> > example, then the result is meaningless -- the accuracy will be 2-2
> > digits, or 0 -- *no* digits in the answer can be trusted to be accurate.
>
> I just solved a FEM eigenvalue pro
On May 1, 11:03 pm, someone wrote:
> On 05/02/2012 01:38 AM, Russ P. wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 1, 4:05 pm, Paul Rubin wrote:
> >> someone writes:
> >>> Actually I know some... I just didn't think so much about, before
&
On May 1, 4:05 pm, Paul Rubin wrote:
> someone writes:
> > Actually I know some... I just didn't think so much about, before
> > writing the question this as I should, I know theres also something
> > like singular value decomposition that I think can help solve
> > otherwise illposed problems,
>
On May 1, 11:52 am, someone wrote:
> On 04/30/2012 03:35 AM, Nasser M. Abbasi wrote:
>
> > On 04/29/2012 07:59 PM, someone wrote:
> > I do not use python much myself, but a quick google showed that pyhton
> > scipy has API for linalg, so use, which is from the documentation, the
> > following code
On Apr 29, 5:17 pm, someone wrote:
> On 04/30/2012 12:39 AM, Kiuhnm wrote:
>
> >> So Matlab at least warns about "Matrix is close to singular or badly
> >> scaled", which python (and I guess most other languages) does not...
>
> > A is not just close to singular: it's singular!
>
> Ok. When do you
On Mar 6, 7:25 pm, rusi wrote:
> On Mar 6, 6:11 am, Xah Lee wrote:
>
> > some additional info i thought is relevant.
>
> > are int, float, long, double, side-effects of computer engineering?
>
> It is a bit naive for computer scientists to club integers and reals
> as mathematicians do given that
On Mar 5, 10:34 pm, Xah Lee wrote:
> On Mar 5, 9:26 pm, Tim Roberts wrote:
>
> > Xah Lee wrote:
>
> > >some additional info i thought is relevant.
>
> > >are int, float, long, double, side-effects of computer engineering?
>
> > Of course they are. Such concepts violate the purity of a computer
On Aug 28, 8:16 pm, Chris Rebert wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Russ P. wrote:
> > On Aug 28, 7:51 pm, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Russ P. wrote:
> >> > On Aug 28, 6:52 pm, MRAB wrote:
> >> >> You could
On Aug 28, 8:16 pm, Chris Rebert wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Russ P. wrote:
> > On Aug 28, 7:51 pm, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Russ P. wrote:
> >> > On Aug 28, 6:52 pm, MRAB wrote:
> >> >> You could
On Aug 28, 7:51 pm, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Russ P. wrote:
> > On Aug 28, 6:52 pm, MRAB wrote:
> >> You could look at the return value of os.system, which may tell you the
> >> exit status of the process.
>
> > Thanks for t
On Aug 28, 6:52 pm, MRAB wrote:
> On 29/08/2011 02:15, Russ P. wrote:> I have a Python (2.6.x) script on Linux
> that loops through many
> > directories and does processing for each. That processing includes
> > several "os.system" calls for each directory (s
and keeps running. If I hit Control-C repeatedly, I
eventually get "lucky" and kill the top-level script. Is there a
simple way to ensure that the first Control-C will kill the whole darn
thing, i.e, the top-level script? Thanks.
--Russ P.
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oint is that there are algorithms that are inherently
recursive and for which there is no natural iterative algorithm.
--
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"Pascal J. Bourguignon" writes:
> t...@sevak.isi.edu (Thomas A. Russ) writes:
> >
> > This will only work if there is a backpointer to the parent.
>
> No, you don't need backpointers; some cases have been mentionned in the
> other answer, but in gen
Hans Georg Schaathun writes:
> ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.lang.python.]
> On 17 May 2011 23:42:20 -0700, Thomas A. Russ
>wrote:
> : Tree walks are the canonical example of what can't be done in an
> : iterative fashion without the addition of an ex
the iterative code. To
my mind that isn't really an iterative algorithm anymore if it ends up
simulating the call stack.
Tree walks are the canonical example of what can't be done in an
iterative fashion without the addition of an explicitly managed stack
--
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"BartC" writes:
> "Thomas A. Russ" wrote in message
> news:ymi1v7vgyp8@blackcat.isi.edu...
> > torb...@diku.dk (Torben ZÆgidius Mogensen) writes:
> >
> >> Trigonometric functions do take arguments of particular units: radians
> >> or
nless. Interestingly, that also allows one to treat
percent (%) as a dimensionless unit with a conversion factor of 1/100.
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RG writes:
>
> More power to you. What are you doing here on cll then?
This thread is massively cross-posted.
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0mi
even when the internal representation is in SI units (m/s, s, m).
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=150168>
and my extension to it as part of the Loom system:
<http://www.isi.edu/isd/LOOM/documentation/loom4.0-release-notes.html#Units>
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On Aug 23, 7:46 pm, alex23 wrote:
> "Russ P." wrote:
> > However, I've switched from Python to
> > Scala, so I really don't care.
>
> Really? Your endless whining in this thread would seem to indicate
> otherwise.
Yes, I guess I care some, but not muc
On Aug 22, 12:47 am, Chris Rebert wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Russ P. wrote:
> > On Aug 21, 1:33 am, Steven D'Aprano > cybersource.com.au> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:01:42 -0700, Russ P. wrote:
> >> > Most programmers probably neve
On Aug 21, 1:33 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:01:42 -0700, Russ P. wrote:
> > Most programmers probably never use vectors and matrices, so they don't
> > care about the inconsistency with standard mathematical notation.
>
> Perhaps you should
On Aug 20, 11:19 am, geremy condra wrote:
> Not sure what you read, but for me (mostly number theory, numerical
> analysis, and abstract algebra) zero-based indexing is quite common.
My background is in aerospace control engineering. I am certainly not
familiar with the literature in pure mathem
On Aug 20, 1:23 am, Martin Braun wrote:
> I find this thread extremely interesting, but what surprised me that
> everyone seems to agree that mathematics is 1-based, but we Pythoneers
> should stick to zero-based. I disagree. To make sure I'm not going
> crazy, I took the top five books lying on
On Aug 19, 12:13 pm, Steven D'Aprano While businesses are conservative in which languages they choose,
> language designers are not conservative in the design features they come
> up with. That there has been a gradual (although as yet incomplete)
> convergence towards zero-based indexing in langu
Yes, apparently Basic uses one-based indexing too.
As for Ada, apparently, the programmer needs to explicitly define the
index range for every array. Weird. But I get the impression that one-
based indexing is used much more than zero-based indexing.
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On Aug 19, 11:42 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:03:53 -0700, Russ P. wrote:
> > For those who insist that zero-based indexing is a good idea, why you
> > suppose mathematical vector/matrix notation has never used that
> > convention? I have studi
I just checked, and Mathematica uses one-based indexing. Apparently
they want their notation to look mathematical.
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On Aug 19, 11:04 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 19:15:54 -0700, Russ P. wrote:
> > The convention of starting with zero may have had some slight
> > performance advantage in the early days of computing, but the huge
> > potential for error that it
On Aug 19, 9:07 am, "J.B. Brown" wrote:
> 2010/8/9 MRAB :
>
> > Default User wrote:
>
> >> Not to prolong a good "food fight", but IIRC, many years ago in QBasic,
> >> one could choose
>
> >> OPTION BASE 0
>
> >> or
>
> >> OPTION BASE 1
>
> When I wrote my own C++ 2-D matrix class, I wrote a membe
On Aug 18, 7:58 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 14:47:08 -0700, Russ P. wrote:
> > Is the top team in the league the number 1 team -- or the number 0 team?
> > I have yet to hear anyone call the best team the number 0 team!
>
> Why is the top team the
On Aug 18, 2:01 pm, AK wrote:
> On 08/17/2010 10:15 PM, Russ P. wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 7, 5:54 am, "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" wrote:
>
> >> Would said beginner also be surprised that a newborn baby is zero years
> >> old or would it be more natural
On Aug 7, 5:54 am, "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" wrote:
> Would said beginner also be surprised that a newborn baby is zero years
> old or would it be more natural to call them a one year old? Zero
> based counting is perfectly natural.
You're confusing continuous and discrete variables. Time is a
continu
On Mar 30, 10:08 am, John Nagle wrote:
> Chris Rebert wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 8:40 AM, gentlestone wrote:
> >> Hi, how can I write the popular C/JAVA syntax in Python?
>
> >> Java example:
> >> return (a==b) ? 'Yes' : 'No'
>
> >> My first idea is:
> >> return ('No','Yes')[bool(a=
According to Wikipedia, this is called the Whitesmith style:
for(i = 99; i > 0; ++i)
{
printf("%d slabs of spam in my mail!\n", i);
printf("%d slabs of spam,\n", i);
printf("Send one to abuse and Just Hit Delete,\n");
printf("%d slabs of spam in my mail!\n\n", i + 1);
On Nov 17, 7:28 am, Jonathan Saxton wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:27:31 +0100, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> >> Congratulations, you just reinvented one of the most infamous source of
> >> bugs in C, C++, Java, PHP, javascript and quite a few other languages.
> >> Believe it or not, but not allow
On Nov 12, 12:06 pm, "Russ P." wrote:
> I have a Python program that runs too slow for some inputs. I would
> like to speed it up without rewriting any code. Psyco seemed like
> exactly what I need, until I saw that it only works on a 32-bit
> architecture. I work in an env
On Nov 14, 10:15 am, "Diez B. Roggisch" wrote:
> Russ P. schrieb:
>
> > I have a Python program that runs too slow for some inputs. I would
> > like to speed it up without rewriting any code. Psyco seemed like
> > exactly what I need, until I saw that it only wor
On Nov 12, 12:06 pm, "Russ P." wrote:
> I have a Python program that runs too slow for some inputs. I would
> like to speed it up without rewriting any code. Psyco seemed like
> exactly what I need, until I saw that it only works on a 32-bit
> architecture. I work in an env
I have a Python program that runs too slow for some inputs. I would
like to speed it up without rewriting any code. Psyco seemed like
exactly what I need, until I saw that it only works on a 32-bit
architecture. I work in an environment of Sun Ultras that are all 64-
bit. However, the Psyco docs sa
On Oct 10, 1:15 pm, kj wrote:
> I'm coaching a group of biologists on basic Python scripting. One
> of my charges mentioned that he had come across the advice never
> to use loops beginning with "while True". Of course, that's one
> way to start an infinite loop, but this seems hardly a sufficie
what might be interfering with the idle
config.
Thanks
Russ
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I need to speed up some Python code, and I discovered Psyco. However,
the Psyco web page has not been updated since December 2007. Before I
go to the trouble of installing it, does anyone know if it is still
good for Python 2.6.1? Thanks.
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I am running 2.5.2 on Red Hat 5. I am getting many printouts of
reference counts, such as
[10263 refs]
I do not recall ever seeing this until recently. Why am I getting
this? Thanks.
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On Feb 4, 5:35 am, Luis Zarrabeitia wrote:
> Quoting "Russ P." :
>
> > Imagine you own a company, and you decide to lease an office building.
> > Would you expect the office doors to have locks on them? Oh, you
> > would? Why? You mean you don't "tr
On Feb 3, 7:49 pm, "Rhodri James" wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:13:32 -, Russ P. wrote:
> > On Feb 3, 4:05 pm, "Rhodri James" wrote:
> >> I'm very much of the second opinion; it was Russ who did the sudden
> >> volte
> >> fa
On Feb 3, 4:14 pm, "Rhodri James" wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:37:57 -, Russ P. wrote:
> > On Feb 2, 7:48 pm, "Rhodri James" wrote:
> >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 02:16:01 -, Russ P.
> >> wrote:
> >> > Here we go again. If you hav
oticed which of the parties is shifting their ground.
> I'm very much of the second opinion; it was Russ who did the sudden volte
> face and declared that it was trivial to circumvent.
Whoa! Hold on a minute here. Your failure to understand a simple idea
does not constitute a "sudde
On Feb 3, 12:45 am, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> Another extreme position is that enforced data hiding is useless, that
> there is *never* any need for it *at all*, and therefore Python doesn't
> need it, there's no reason except stupid PHB's belief in cargo-cult
> coding why Python couldn't be used
On Feb 2, 9:09 pm, a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) wrote:
> You favor bleeding eyes?
If I am going to bleed anywhere, I'd actually prefer it be somewhere
other than the eyes. Well, maybe not the gonads either. That's a tough
call. In any case, I use xemacs, and I've always liked color
highlighting. N
On Feb 2, 7:48 pm, "Rhodri James" wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 02:16:01 -, Russ P. wrote:
> > Here we go again. If you have access to the source code (as you nearly
> > always do with Python code), then "breaking the language-enforced data
> > hiding"
On Feb 2, 4:35 pm, "Rhodri James" wrote:
> This really, really, *really* isn't a tangent. It's the heart of
> the matter. You are advocating a change that doesn't fit with
> Python's "consenting adults" approach to programming. It's trivial
> to enforce hiding using static checking tools if yo
On Feb 2, 2:46 pm, Tim Rowe wrote:
> 2009/2/2 Russ P. :
>
> > Are we supposed
> > to believe that the designers of C++, Java, Ada, and Scala are all
> > idiots?
>
> No, we're supposed to believe that the designers of C++, Java, Ada,
> and Scala are all desi
On Feb 2, 9:02 am, thmpsn@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 2, 2:55 am, Stephen Hansen wrote:
>
> > > This is proven
> > > by your statement above, whereby you are driving a user away,
> > > simply because the language, in one small aspect, does not
> > > give him what he wants, and the tenor of this
On Jan 28, 1:32Â pm, Xah Lee wrote:
> Function Application is not Currying
>
> Xah Lee, 2009-01-28
>
> In Jon Harrop's book Ocaml for Scientist
> athttp://www.ffconsultancy.com/products/ocaml_for_scientists/chapter1.html
>
> It says:
>
> Â Â Currying
>
> Â Â A curried function is a function w
On Jan 27, 11:40 am, Luis Zarrabeitia wrote:
> I think you still fail to see that what we are objecting is not that the
> original writer can "optionally" use the enforced data hiding (which, as
> someone pointed out before me, can be done with tools like pylint). The
> objection is about the _us
On Jan 26, 6:09 am, Steve Holden wrote:
> Quite. Python is a language "for consenting adults". It has perceived
> deficiencies for certain software engineering environments. Can we drop
> the subject now? This horse was flogged to death long ago, and it's
> pointless and cruel to keep on beating
On Jan 26, 1:07 am, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> No. I can change the *team's* code. Please *read*. "team's ownership",
> ok ? Or do I have to spell it out loud ? TEAM'S OWNERSHIP. Uh. You get
> the message, now ?
Team ownership doesn't necessarily mean that you can just change code
at will. In
On Jan 25, 7:56 pm, Mark Wooding wrote:
> "Russ P." writes:
>
> [snip stuff I don't disagree with]
>
> > That makes renaming and refactoring riskier in general in Python than
> > in statically typed languages with enforced access restrictions. More
> &
On Jan 25, 5:31 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> It seems to me that Russ' latest objection to _private names is not
> specific to _private names. The same problem:
>
> "You will get no warning at all. You will just be inadvertently
> creating a new "private"
On Jan 25, 10:04 am, Mark Wooding wrote:
> > But what if I want an automatic check to verify that I am using it as
> > the author intended? Is that unreasonable?
>
> You mean that you can't /tell/ whether you typed mumble._seekrit?
> You're very strange. It's kind of hard to do by accident.
But
On Jan 25, 10:04 am, Mark Wooding wrote:
> "Russ P." writes:
> > Calling a one-word change a "fork" is quite a stretch, I'd say.
>
> I wouldn't. I've forked a project P if I've made a different version of
> it which isn't goin
On Jan 24, 9:54 pm, Luis Zarrabeitia wrote:
> Quoting "Russ P." :
>
> > Once again, if you have the source code for the library (and the right
> > to modify it), how does the "power" lie with the library implementer
> > rather than you the user?
>
&
On Jan 24, 5:09 pm, Luis Zarrabeitia wrote:
> I didn't say "at all". Those were your words, not mine.
> I said that it makes no sense that the power lies on _you_ instead of on _my
> team_. And, when I said that, I recall we were talking about the python
> language, not C.
Once again, if you hav
On Jan 24, 4:17 pm, Luis Zarrabeitia wrote:
> Quoting "Russ P." :
>
> > On Jan 23, 6:36 pm, Luis Zarrabeitia wrote:
>
> > > > Makes *no* sense? There's *no* good reason *at all* for the original
> > > > author to hide or protect internals?
On Jan 24, 4:03 pm, Robert Kern wrote:
> On 2009-01-23 22:25, Aahz wrote:
>
> > In article,
> > Linuxguy123 wrote:
> >> I just started using python last week and I'm addicted.
>
> > Welcome! Just be aware that excessive Perl-bashing is considered
> > somewhat tasteless on this newsgroup, but the
On Jan 23, 6:58 pm, Linuxguy123 wrote:
> I will never write another Perl or Bash script again.
I still use bash for orchestrating the execution of a series of other
scripts and/or programs (including python programs). I know you can do
that in python, but I find bash simpler to use for that purp
On Jan 23, 6:36 pm, Luis Zarrabeitia wrote:
> > Makes *no* sense? There's *no* good reason *at all* for the original
> > author to hide or protect internals?
>
> My bad, sorry.
> It makes sense... if the original author is an egotist who believes he must
> control how I use that library.
If the
On Jan 23, 6:21 am, Steve Holden wrote:
> I have to say that I thought the example was somewhat bogus. Any
> development team that is even slightly concerned about the possibility
> of logic bombs in the code will try to mitigate that possibility by the
> use of code inspections.
Of course they
On Jan 23, 4:57 am, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> Russ P. a écrit :
> > As I said before, if you have the source code you can always change
> > private attributes to public in a pinch if the language enforces
> > encapsulation.
>
> And then have to maintain a fork.
On Jan 23, 4:30 am, Mark Wooding wrote:
> Suppose that you write a Python library module and release it. I find
> that it's /almost/ the right thing for some program of mine, but it
> doesn't quite work properly unless I hack about like so... perfect! I'm
> a happy bunny; you've gained a user (
On Jan 22, 9:22 pm, "Russ P." wrote:
> code. You can play around with the internals all you want in your own
> little world, but as when you are working with a team, you need to
> adhere to the interfaces they define (if any).
The word "as" should not be there:
On Jan 23, 1:54 am, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano a écrit :
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:10:05 +, Mark Wooding wrote:
>
> >> Steven D'Aprano writes:
>
> >>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:12:31 +0100, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano a écrit :
> > But if you ha
On Jan 21, 4:04 am, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> Russ P. a écrit :
> (snip)
>
> > Your mistake for being a moron. But it seems to happen regularly,
> > doesn't it. How much more of my time are you going to waste, loser?
>
> Calling people names is certainly
On Jan 22, 6:30 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:10:05 +, Mark Wooding wrote:
> > Steven D'Aprano writes:
>
> >> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:12:31 +0100, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> >>> Steven D'Aprano a écrit :
> But if you have free access to attributes, then *everything
On Jan 21, 9:34 am, Luis Zarrabeitia wrote:
> But you keep failing to explay why do you need it to be _part of the standard_
> library (or whatever).
Technically, it doesn't need to be. But if someone proposes using
particular language for a major safety-critical project, the critical
features r
On Jan 20, 11:16 pm, alex23 wrote:
> I think this is the main issue we disagree on. I'm happier for Python
> to remain lightweight where such features can be easily added on
> demand through external libraries. I see no reason why a library
> couldn't be as "well-engineered" a solution as an exte
On Jan 20, 11:03 pm, James Mills wrote:
> Then -don't- use python. Use some other boring
> language. (!...@#$!@#)
>
> --JamesMills
You're emailing me again. Please don't do that. It's bad enough to get
death threats in a newsgroup -- I don't need them in my inbox too.
Thanks.
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