Re: MTG: Introductions to PyQt and DataClasses

Actually, I have a sleep disorder that requires me to keep a constant sleep schedule. Thats why I asked. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2024, at 3:36 PM, dn via Python-list > wrote: > > On 17/03/24 23:40, Jim Schwartz wrote: >> Will it be recorded? > > Bett

Re: MTG: Introductions to PyQt and DataClasses

Will it be recorded? Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2024, at 1:47 AM, dn via Python-list > wrote: > > The Auckland Branch of NZPUG meets this Wednesday, 20 March at 1830 NZDT > (0530 UTC, midnight-ish Tue/Wed in American time-zones), for a virtual > meeting. > > Part 1: Learn the basic

Python misbehavior

could you please pass my message on to a better choice? Gratefully, Jim Haas Sent from my iPhone -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: fCONV_AUSRICHTG is not defined - Why?

Where do you define fCONV_AUSRICHTG? It must be initialized or defined somewhere. Did you leave out a statement from the python 2 version? Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2023, at 1:06 PM, Thomas Passin via Python-list > wrote: > > On 11/7/2023 12:47 PM, Egon Frerich via Python-list wrote:

RE: Writing to clipboard in Python 3.11

It doesn't work in python 3.12.0 -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Thomas Passin via Python-list Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 12:08 PM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Writing to clipboard in Python 3.11 On 11/5/2023 7:51 PM, Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote: >

Re: Question(s)

Does this link help? It seems to have a Linux package here. [1]Eclipse Packages | The Eclipse Foundation - home to a global community, the Eclipse IDE, Jakarta EE and [2]favicon.ico over 350 open source projects... eclipse.org Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2023

RE: Compiling python on windows with vs

Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2023 1:12 PM To: Python Cc: Thomas Schweikle Subject: Re: Compiling python on windows with vs Am Di., 13.Juni.2023 um 19:20:38 schrieb Jim Schwartz: > What version of visual studio are you using? Visual Studio 2022, aka 17.6.2. > What version of python? python 3.10.1

Re: Compiling python on windows with vs

What version of visual studio are you using? What version of python? I’ve had success with using the cython package in python and cl from visual studio, but I haven’t tried visual studio alone. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 13, 2023, at 11:59 AM, Thomas Schweikle via Python-list > wrote: >

RE: Learning tkinter

This works for me. Hope it helps. from tkinter import messagebox messagebox.showerror("Hi", f"Hello World") -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Rob Cliffe via Python-list Sent: Friday, May 12, 2023 3:55 AM To: Python Subject: Learning tkinter I am trying to learn tkint

Re: Help on ctypes.POINTER for Python array

I’m not sure this is the shortest method, but you could set up two python scripts to do the same thing and convert them to c using cython. I wouldn’t be able to read the c scripts, but maybe you could. Maybe someone else has a more direct answer. Sent from my iPhone > On May 11, 2023, at 10:

Re: Christoph Gohlke and compiled packages

What’s the problem now? Is it with python on windows? I use python on windows so I’d like to know. Thanks Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 11, 2023, at 2:24 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 14:20, Mike Dewhirst wrote: >> >> It seems Christoph Gohlke has been cut adrift and

RE: Windows installer from python source code without access to source code

Thanks everyone for the help. I got my app working with using cython to generate the c code, cl to compile, and visual studio to create the setup.exe and the msi installer. I appreciate the help. -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Jim Schwartz Sent: Friday, April 7, 2023

RE: Windows installer from python source code without access to source code

which files to include in the package and list them. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/62390978/minimal-set-of-files-required-to-distribute-an-embed-cython-compiled-code-and-ma -Original Message- From: Jim Schwartz Sent: Friday, April 7, 2023 5:33 AM To: 'Eryk Sun' Cc

RE: Windows installer from python source code without access to source code

From: Eryk Sun Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 8:06 PM To: Jim Schwartz Cc: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Windows installer from python source code without access to source code On 4/6/23, Jim Schwartz wrote: > Never mind. I found it on the web. I needed to point my PYTHONPATH &

RE: Windows installer from python source code without access to source code

Never mind. I found it on the web. I needed to point my PYTHONPATH to sitepackages: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56857449/importerror-after-cython-embed -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Jim Schwartz Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 2:50 PM To: 'Barry

Re: Windows installer from python source code without access to source code

Could someone please help Carlos?  I’m not sure how to answer his question  Sent from my iPhone On Apr 6, 2023, at 3:53 PM, Carlos Fulqueris wrote:  Hello Jim, How can I unsubscribe to this email list? I'm waiting for your response. Thanks C

RE: Windows installer from python source code without access to source code

are\aws_pc_backup\src\c>aws_pc_backup.exe -m:lb Traceback (most recent call last): File "src\\python\\aws_pc_backup_main.py", line 7, in init python.aws_pc_backup_main ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'requests' -Original Message- From: Barry Sent: Tuesday, April

RE: Windows installer from python source code without access to source code

Where can I download that cl program? I've used gcc before, but I hear that cl can use a setup.py program to run the compile and link and create a windows .msi installer. Is that true? -Original Message- From: Eryk Sun Sent: Friday, March 31, 2023 12:55 PM To: Jim Schwart

RE: [Python-Dev] Small lament...

Yea, it is funny. I commented on it. -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Eryk Sun Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2023 2:23 PM To: Skip Montanaro Cc: Python ; python-dev Dev Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] Small lament... On 4/1/23, Skip Montanaro wrote: > Just wanted to throw this

Re: Windows Gui Frontend

Are there any ide’s that will let me design the screen and convert it to python? I doubt it because it was mentioned that this is time consuming. Thanks for the responses everyone. I appreciate it. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 1, 2023, at 10:37 AM, Eryk Sun wrote: > > On 4/

Windows Gui Frontend

I have another question. I have an app written in python, but I want to add a windows GUI front end to it. Can this be done in python? What packages would allow me to do that? Thanks. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Windows installer from python source code without access to source code

doesn’t matter. I have to do a lot more work before I get to that point Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 31, 2023, at 6:52 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Sat, 1 Apr 2023 at 10:34, Jim Schwartz wrote: >> >> Yea. You’re right. I probably need a lawyer someday. Thanks. >&

Re: Windows installer from python source code without access to source code

Yea. You’re right. I probably need a lawyer someday. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 31, 2023, at 5:12 PM, Thomas Passin wrote: > > On 3/31/2023 5:16 PM, Jim Schwartz wrote: >> What license do I have to choose so people can't use my code? I don't know >>

RE: Windows installer from python source code without access to source code

out access to source code On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 at 23:01, Jim Schwartz wrote: > > I want a windows installer to install my application that's written in > python, but I don't want the end user to have access to my source code. > > > > Is that possible using python? I

Windows installer from python source code without access to source code

I want a windows installer to install my application that's written in python, but I don't want the end user to have access to my source code. Is that possible using python? I was using cx-freeze, but that has the source code available. So does pyinstaller. I think gcc does, too. Does

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Not receiving posts

done nothing to warrant removal. Can you please check and see what I need to do to start receiving emails once more. regards, Jim Byrnes -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How to read file content and send email on Debian Bullseye

On 2023-02-05, ^Bart wrote: >> xdg-email appears to be for interactive use (it opens the user's >> "preferred email composer"); I think sendmail would work much better >> from a script. > > Like what I said in another post I think I could use ssmtp than > xdg-email or sendmail... > >> Otherwise,

Re: How to read file content and send email on Debian Bullseye

On 2023-02-05, ^Bart wrote: >> For example, try to do whatever parts you know how to do and when some part >> fails or is missing, ask. > > You're right but first of all I wrote what I'd like to do and if Python > could be the best choice about it! :) I'd say you want a simple shell script wrapp

RE: Fwd: Installation hell

ending an email? Ask for a refund on your compsci degree. -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of DFS Sent: Monday, December 19, 2022 12:58 PM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Installation hell On 12/18/2022 6:50 AM, Jim Lewis wrote: > I'm an occasional us

Fwd: Installation hell

I'm an occasional user of Python and have a degree in computer science. Almost every freaking time I use Python, I go through PSH (Python Setup Hell). Sometimes a wrong version is installed. Sometimes it's a path issue. Or exe naming confusion: python, python3, phthon311, etc. Or library compatibil

Re: Apparent Issue with Administrator Privileges

Is PYTHONPATH a user defined environment variable or system defined environment variable? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 18, 2022, at 1:56 PM, Walsh, Ginny (US) wrote: > > Hello- > > I've been struggling with resolving environmental variables issues and I > believe it is linked to my compan

Re: Python scripts in .exe form

What method did you use to create the exe file from your python scripts? If it was pyinstaller, then it puts the compiled versions of these python scripts in a windows temp folder when you run them. You’ll be able to get the scripts from there. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 19, 2022, at 9:51

Re: Problem using cx_Freeze

This link covers how to use BDist_dmg. https://cx-freeze.readthedocs.io/en/latest/setup_script.html Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 15, 2022, at 12:11 PM, David at Booomer wrote: > > I’m trying to use cx_Freeze (https://pypi.org/project/cx-Freeze/) in a > python app but running into an error m

Re: [OT] Annoying message duplication, was Re: Unsubscribe/can't login

On 5/5/21 1:07 PM, Jan van den Broek wrote: On 2021-05-05, Jim Byrnes wrote: On 5/5/21 9:39 AM, Peter Otten wrote: On 05/05/2021 16:10, Ethan Furman wrote: I see your messages twice (occasionally with other posters as well). I have no idea how to fix it.?? :( OK, I'll try another o

Re: [OT] Annoying message duplication, was Re: Unsubscribe/can't login

ppear once or twice? In theory it should go to the newsgroup only which would mirror it to the list. FWIW, none of the messages in this this thread are dupes for me and I can't remember the last time I saw a dupe from you. Regards, Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: pandas/jupyther notebook?

On 4/9/21 3:29 AM, Thomas Jollans wrote: On 07/04/2021 23:32, Jim Byrnes wrote: linux mint 20 python 3.8 jupyter 1.0.0 jedi 0.18.0 I am teaching myself pandas/jupyter notebooks. The problem I am having is tab autocomplete seems to be working erratically. Googling shows that most people

Re: pandas/jupyther notebook?

On 4/7/21 4:32 PM, Jim Byrnes wrote: linux mint 20 python 3.8 jupyter 1.0.0 jedi 0.18.0 I am teaching myself pandas/jupyter notebooks. The problem I am having is tab autocomplete seems to be working erratically. Googling shows that most people solve autocomplete problems by putting  import

pandas/jupyther notebook?

ender'].ast it will not complete astype. I wonder if someone can tell me why this is happening and maybe how to fix it. Thanks, Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: A rule for your twitlist/mailing list

-- Grant I think that should now be news.gmane.io, at least that's how I get comp.python. I think gmane.org shut down. Regards, Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Does this dataframe look correct?

On 6/29/20 2:16 AM, Peter Otten wrote: Jim wrote: linux mint 19.3, python 3.6 I wrote a program to download stock info from yahoo using yfinance. I have been running it unchanged for the past 3 months, today it gave an error. When looping through a list of stocks the error is random, never

Re: Does this dataframe look correct?

On 6/28/20 8:53 PM, MRAB wrote: On 2020-06-28 23:11, Jim wrote: linux mint 19.3, python 3.6 I wrote a program to download stock info from yahoo using yfinance. I have been running it unchanged for the past 3 months, today it gave an error. When looping through a list of stocks the error is

Does this dataframe look correct?

A couple of people reported a work around using try/except. It worked for some people and not others. It didn't work for me. I'd appreciate any advice you could give. Thanks, Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Trouble with version 3.8

I had been using python 3.6 on two computers with windows 7 and windows 10.  We bought a windows 10 machine and I installed python 3.8 on it.  Many of my python apps failed with an error similar to this:  File "C:\Python38\lib\os.py", line 818, in fsdecode    filename = fspath(filename)  # Do

Re: why no camelCase in PEP 8?

On 5/19/20 3:49 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:38 AM Jim wrote: On 5/19/20 1:24 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 4:03 AM Schachner, Joseph wrote: And, because '_' looks sort of like a space, the individual words are more easil

Re: why no camelCase in PEP 8?

Me: "Well, I guess that's the point then, isn't it." ChrisA Couldn't resist: Why not Chris_A :) Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

0x80070643 python download error

I am trying to download python on my laptop and this error came up. How do I fix this error appearing and download python 3.8.2? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

What is the correct interpreter

Where is the correct interpreter? I have installed python several times Pycharm all ways selects C:\ProgramFiles\JetBrains\PyCharm Community Edition 2019.3.3\bin\pycharm64.exe But when I run a simple code it objects to the interpreter??? Sent from Mail

3.7.4 (latest) install changes python to py and removes pip support

all, but I did not lose access to pip and pipenv. Any help would be appreciated for restoring my python 3.7 install. Thank you for any help you can provide. Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

RE: 3.7.4 (latest) install changes python to py and removes pip support

tempted to upgrade to pip 19.2.3, but it actually installed it successfully. Pipenv upgraded with no issue. Python is back! Thank you. Jim From: Jim Elphick Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 11:03 AM To: python-list@python.org Subject: 3.7.4 (latest) install changes python to py and removes pip

Re: ConfigParser: use newline in INI file

On Thursday, March 7, 2019 at 10:38:03 AM UTC-6, jim.wo...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 9:57:24 AM UTC-5, Thorsten Kampe wrote: > > Hi, > > > > ConfigParser escapes `\n` in ini values as `\\n`. Is there a way to > > signal to ConfigParser that there is a line break? > > > >

Re: ConfigParser: use newline in INI file

On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 9:57:24 AM UTC-5, Thorsten Kampe wrote: > Hi, > > ConfigParser escapes `\n` in ini values as `\\n`. Is there a way to > signal to ConfigParser that there is a line break? > > Thorsten And now we know! I think they should have named Python 3 something else -- htt

Re: ConfigParser: use newline in INI file

ather keep it one line per value > >>> but it solves the problem. > >> > >> If you want to have \n mean a newline in your config file, you can > >> do the conversion after you read the value: > >> > >> >>> "a\\nb".decode(&q

Re: ConfigParser: use newline in INI file

the value: > > >>> "a\\nb".decode("string-escape") > 'a\nb' > > --Ned. Wow! Thanks so much Ned. I've been looking for the solution to this issue for several days and had nearly given up. Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python3 packages installation

install a package called 'python3-pip'. At least that's what I had to do on Ubuntu. Regards, Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Looking for a Scrapy cheatsheet

On 09/14/2018 08:15 AM, Jim wrote: On 09/14/2018 01:27 AM, Danyelle Davis wrote: The one that sans provides seems pretty decent. Did you not like it? What is sans? Do you have a url. Thanks,  Jim Nevermind. I googled scrapy sans and I think we are talking about two different programs with

Re: Looking for a Scrapy cheatsheet

On 09/14/2018 01:27 AM, Danyelle Davis wrote: The one that sans provides seems pretty decent. Did you not like it? What is sans? Do you have a url. Thanks, Jim On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 4:05 PM Jim wrote: I'm in the process of learning Scrapy. I've read through the docs and a

Looking for a Scrapy cheatsheet

able. So does anyone know of a cheatsheet I can download. Thanks, Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On 07/16/18 11:31, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 10:27:18 -0700, Jim Lee wrote: Had you actually read my words with *intent* rather than *reaction*, you would notice that I suggested the *option* of turning off Unicode. Yes, I know what you wrote, and I read it with i

Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On 07/16/18 10:40, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 16/07/18 18:27, Jim Lee wrote: Obviously, the most vocal representatives of the Python community are too sensitive about their language to enable rational discussion. Please moderators ban this person as he's going down the same line as bart

Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

make it *harder* to use Unicode.  Once again - reaction rather than reading. Obviously, the most vocal representatives of the Python community are too sensitive about their language to enable rational discussion. -Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

ypass Unicode handling easily *when it's not needed*. -Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

On 07/15/18 17:17, MRAB wrote: On 2018-07-16 00:10, Jim Lee wrote: On 07/15/18 16:04, Chris Angelico wrote: You claimed that Unicode was insignificant to many programs. I'm trying to say that a Unicode text string is a vital part of any program that works with text, which is pretty

Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

On 07/15/18 17:18, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sun, 15 Jul 2018 16:08:15 -0700, Jim Lee wrote: Python3 is intrinsically tied to Unicode for string handling. Therefore, the Python programmer is forced to deal with it (in all but trivial cases), rather than given a choice.  So I don't

Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

ne I18N issue - therefore Python *does* have builtin (and unavoidable) I18N features. -Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Users banned

h him. -Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

- his own. As I also said, Unicode (which is the best solution we have at the moment for global interchange) is necessary when we *do* need to deal with text on a broader scale. -Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

On 07/15/18 16:13, Chris Angelico wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 9:08 AM, Jim Lee wrote: On 07/15/18 14:50, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: Jim Lee : Yes, and for *that*, language matters; but, for a vast array of programming tasks that *don't* involve global communications, it's an adde

Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

never heard of programming BEFORE Unicode existed? How ever did we get along?  It must have been a hallucination... -Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

On 07/15/18 14:50, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: Jim Lee : Yes, and for *that*, language matters;  but, for a vast array of programming tasks that *don't* involve global communications, it's an added level of complexity with zero benefit.  It would be *nice* to be able to turn support

Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

On 07/15/18 15:07, Chris Angelico wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 7:57 AM, Jim Lee wrote: On 07/15/18 14:53, Chris Angelico wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 7:02 AM, Jim Lee wrote: On 07/15/18 13:30, Chris Angelico wrote: It doesn't matter what Twitch is, except for the fact that

Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

On 07/15/18 14:53, Chris Angelico wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 7:02 AM, Jim Lee wrote: On 07/15/18 13:30, Chris Angelico wrote: It doesn't matter what Twitch is, except for the fact that it is a platform for HUMANS to communicate with HUMANS. Ultimately, that is what matters. Pic

Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

able to simply ignore the feature(s). -Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

- I don't even know what it is. This should drive home my point that, for many tasks, I18N or, more specifically, Unicode is an unnecessary complication. If my program doesn't give a whit about web protocols or emoji, then how some Twitch title displays itself is irrelevant. -Jim

Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

at it's an unnecessary complication for a great deal of programming tasks.  For a great deal more, it's absolutely necessary.  That why I said a "smart" language would make it easy to turn on and off. -Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

oo confusing. But a if c else b, look, the order is reversed. This is much more natural! And not strange punctuation, English words. Python is executable pseudocode!" Christian +1000 !! -Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

RE: Guido van Rossum resigns as Python leader

servers in IBM i (yes AIX and Linux run there too) adds a significant number of shops that might adopt Python. That means Python is growing on its own. The legacy is written already, it will just get better. -- Jim Oberholtzer Agile Technology Architects -Original Message- From:

Re: Feasibility of console based (non-Gui) Tkinter app which can accept keypresses?

<->view) Frontend-backend w/Tk, console, Qt: Four conceptual modules (three frontends, one backend) One abstraction layer (frontend<->backend) -Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: testing code

import is indeed executed by the python interpreter. I'm not familiar with the "%run" prefix in your command - some sort of windows-ism? -Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: about main()

On 07/06/18 12:57, Terry Reedy wrote: On 7/5/2018 9:40 PM, Jim Lee wrote: On 07/05/18 18:25, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Thu, 05 Jul 2018 11:27:09 -0700, Jim Lee wrote: Take a village of people.  They live mostly on wild berries. Because of course a community of people living on one

Re: about main()

On 07/06/18 11:25, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2018-07-06, Jim Lee wrote: Pedantics again. Didn't even get the point before tearing apart the *analogy* rather than the *point itself*. Jim Lee, this is the Internet. Intenet, this is Jim Lee. :) You have an inaccurate anthropomo

Re: about main()

On 07/05/18 18:25, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Thu, 05 Jul 2018 11:27:09 -0700, Jim Lee wrote: Take a village of people.  They live mostly on wild berries. Because of course a community of people living on one food is so realistic. Even the Eskimos and Inuit, living in some of the har

Re: about main()

sure they even know where their programs are spending the majority of their execution time. Yup.  Like any other skill, part of mastery is knowing *when* to use it as well as *how*. -Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: about main()

On 07/05/18 14:15, MRAB wrote: On 2018-07-05 21:43, Jim Lee wrote: On 07/05/18 12:58, Chris Angelico wrote: On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 4:27 AM, Jim Lee wrote: On 07/05/18 10:47, Calvin Spealman wrote: You say "pitfall", but I say "allow developers to focus on higher-lev

Re: about main()

On 07/05/18 12:58, Chris Angelico wrote: On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 4:27 AM, Jim Lee wrote: On 07/05/18 10:47, Calvin Spealman wrote: You say "pitfall", but I say "allow developers to focus on higher-level problems and enable developers to specialize among tasks so every s

Re: about main()

t vanishes.  Now, the entire village is clueless when it comes to identifying the poisonous berries. -Jim -Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: about main()

On 07/05/18 10:15, Calvin Spealman wrote: On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Jim Lee <mailto:jle...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 07/05/18 05:14, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer mailto:arj.pyt...@gmail.com>>: * Create as many funct

Re: about main()

. Marko Sadly, this *is* the current mindset. "Don't bother optimizing, the compiler does it better than you can." Tell me, who writes the compilers?  When we die off, nobody will have a clue how to do it... -Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PEP 526 - var annotations and the spirit of python

On 07/03/18 22:03, Ben Finney wrote: Jim Lee writes: I claimed that Steven was using three different numbers to refer to the time it takes to master a subject: 10,000 hours an indefinite number 2 years Yes. He did so in the context of showing that *there is no precise number* that

Re: PEP 526 - var annotations and the spirit of python

On 07/03/18 21:35, Ben Finney wrote: Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer writes: apart from programming, other questions go like this : […] *cut at this point* Ooh, I like that last step! How do we make that happen on demand? You could start by not adding to the noise... :) -- https://mail.python.

Re: PEP 526 - var annotations and the spirit of python

On 07/03/18 21:25, Ben Finney wrote: Jim Lee writes: On 07/03/18 19:58, Ben Finney via Python-list wrote: Jim Lee writes: If you were to say John had 2 apples, Jane had 4 apples, and Joe had an indefinite number of apples, how many numbers are we talking about? Three numbers. And

Re: PEP 526 - var annotations and the spirit of python

On 07/03/18 19:58, Ben Finney via Python-list wrote: Jim Lee writes: If you were to say John had 2 apples, Jane had 4 apples, and Joe had an indefinite number of apples, how many numbers are we talking about? Three numbers. And “indefinite” is not one of those numbers. So, no, that doesn&#

Re: PEP 526 - var annotations and the spirit of python

Jane had 4 apples, and Joe had an indefinite number of apples, how many numbers are we talking about? That's rhetorical by the way.  The other person is obviously focusing on pedantics in order to obfuscate the original (weak) argument. -Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PEP 526 - var annotations and the spirit of python

dantically telling you off for imprecision in numbers even though I knew full well that no greater precision was possible or desirable, but how 'bout you drop it and leave me with the last word, hmmm?" Sigh.  I tried to give you a graceful way to end the pedantics. Now, I will gracefully

Re: Getting posts to sort chronologically in tree view

ere some way to have my conversations appear in both sites? Thanks, Tamara For what it's worth, I don't get my own posts via email either, and I have that explicitly enabled in my subscription settings. -Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PEP 526 - var annotations and the spirit of python

ow being farmed out overseas as black box bids.  After I retired, my team was sent to China to "train" a new group (read brain dump), and was then summarily disbanded. -Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PEP 526 - var annotations and the spirit of python

act number of hours *is* foolish - but nobody was doing that.  I was simply pointing out that you used three vastly different numbers in almost the same breath to describe how long it takes a person to master something. I think we both get the idea - let's back out of this rabbit

Re: PEP 526 - var annotations and the spirit of python

the general craft of programming, not a specific language. Since 10,000 hours is about 5 years in a 9-5 setting, I'd say that's about right. As I'm sure you've experienced, picking up a second language after mastering the general craft of programming takes far less time.

Re: PEP 526 - var annotations and the spirit of python

7;ve already hit a wall performance-wise.  Physics only allows so many electrons to flow through a nm-sized pipe.  Now, the "solution" is to keep adding more cores. But that doesn't help if an application doesn't lend itself to a multi-threaded design.  So, software efficie

Re: PEP 526 - var annotations and the spirit of python

ltiple paradigms. However, the hiring process today is based on tick boxes in an automated search form.  Qualified individuals don't even come up on the radar because the criteria for qualification has changed. -Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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