Has anyone implementing something like what the subject line
indicates?
The idea:
To run functions that execute a series of system commands without
blocking the ui, *and* without adding state machine logic.
The syntax would be something like:
def work():
showstatus("building")
r = yield ru
On Jan 14, 2:57 pm, sturlamolden wrote:
> According to a Norwegian publication, Nokia will release Qt under LGPL
> as of version 4.5.
>
> If I had stocks in Riverbank Computing ltd., I would sell them now...
Isn't that a tad thankless and premature?
It may be that the "support" aspect needs to
On May 8, 8:11 pm, Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All these examples assume your regular expression will not span multiple
> lines, but this can easily be the case. How would you process the file
> with regular expressions that span multiple lines?
re.findall/ finditer, as I said earl
On May 6, 10:42 pm, Anton Slesarev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> flines = (line for line in f if pat.search(line))
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On May 6, 11:27 pm, hdante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> GPL can mix with other free software licenses, so people who write
> BSD code and do not wish to remain BSD clean are free to use GPL'd
> code. That's the important point.
No, it can't. It can only mix through aggregation, i.e. you can ship
On Apr 9, 2:25 pm, Mage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Before spending much time for investigating, I would like to ask you: is
> Pylons the framework I look for if I want to come back to Python and
> develop MVC web apps?
Why not play with Django and the Google App Engine that everyone is
raving a
I just noticed that pywin32 does not work with vista directly (tried
import win32clipboard, => ImportError). The problem is the installer
name; it's the usual
pywin32-210-win32-py2.5.exe
It needs to be renamed to:
pywin32-210.win32-setup-py2.5.exe
In order for vista to catch it as "installer".
On Apr 6, 8:10 pm, "Edward K Ream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - Completed ILeo: a bridge between IPython and Leo.
> See http://webpages.charter.net/edreamleo/IPythonBridge.html
Additional note: to use ILeo, you need a new IPython. Download the not-
yet-blessed release candidate (I don't fores
On Feb 23, 10:54 pm, Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are you part of Leo? This smells like a marketing scheme to me.
Yes, Edward is part of Leo and I am part of IPython. In fact, most of
my income comes from selling IPython T-shirts at the local flea market
and I therefore have to reso
Here is something cool that will rock your world (ok, excuse the
slight hyperbole):
Introduction
The purpose of ILeo, or leo-ipython bridge, is being a two-way
communication
channel between Leo and IPython. The level of integration is much
deeper than
conventional integration in IDEs
Hi all,
The IPython team is happy to release version 0.8.2, with lots of new
enhancements (especially for system shell use - it has never been a
better time
for switching to "pysh" or "ipython -p sh" as your system shell of
choice),
as well as many bug fixes.
We hope you all enjoy it, and please
Some of you might want to play with IPyKit, especially you need a
swiss-army-knife Python prompt on a (win32) machine where you don't
really want to install anything (python, pyreadline, ipython, PATH
settings...).
It's basically a py2exe'd "preconfigured" IPython.
http://ipython.scipy.org/moin/I
Something I forgot to emphasize in the announcement, knowing that not
everyone reads the release notes - if you are upgrading from a previous
version of IPython, you must either:
- Delete your ~/ipython (or ~/_ipython) directory OR
- Run %upgrade once IPython starts.
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Hi all,
The IPython team is happy to release version 0.7.3, with a lot of new
enhancements, as well as many bug fixes (including full Python 2.5
support).
We hope you all enjoy it, and please report any problems as usual.
WHAT is IPython?
1. An interactive shell superior to Py
Ville Vainio wrote:
> Something I forgot to emphasize in the announcement, knowing that not
> everyone reads the release notes - if you are upgrading from a previous
> version of IPython, you must either:
>
> - Delete your ~/ipython (or ~/_ipython) directory OR
> - Run %up
Ville Vainio wrote:
> Something I forgot to emphasize in the announcement, knowing that not
> everyone reads the release notes - if you are upgrading from a previous
> version of IPython, you must either:
>
> - Delete your ~/ipython (or ~/_ipython) directory OR
> - Run %up
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Yes, next version of IPython is closing in on final release around the
years end, with lots of new exiting features (full list TBD, but it
*does* include proper python 2.5 support if that's what you've been
waiting for).
Get the 0.7.3 beta 2 it at
http://projects.scipy.org/ipython/ipython/wiki/Re
This comes in a bit of a hurry (you only have time until next monday to
sign up), but here's the deal:
The next version of ipython (0.7.2, "out soon", pretty much done
already) will include an extension for browsing and manipulating
tabular data (e.g. file name, file size, permissions etc.) called
Duncan Booth wrote:
> Looking in the 'obvious' place in the Tutorial, section 5.1 'More on
> Lists' I found in the immediately following section 5.2 'The del
> statement':
I read the tutorial 6 years ago, and don't read it regularly. What's in
the tutorial is not really important, what can be eas
Ville Vainio wrote:
> Assigning to slices is much less important, and is something I always
> never do (and hence forget).
ALMOST never, of course.
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Raymond Hettinger wrote:
> * easier to figure-out, look-up, and remember than either s[:]=[] or
> del s[:]
Easier is an understatement - it's something you figure out
automatically. When I want to do something w/ an object, looking at its
methods (via code completion) is the very first thing.
>
John Salerno wrote:
> Thanks guys, your explanations are really helpful. I think what had me
> confused at first was my understanding of what L[:] does on either side
> of the assignment operator. On the left, it just chooses those elements
> and edits them in place; on the right, it makes a copy
Steven Bethard wrote:
> If you feel really strongly about this though, you might consider
> writing up a PEP. It's been contentious enough that there's not much
> chance of getting a change without one.
No strong feelings here, and I'm sure greater minds than me have
already hashed this over suf
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
> > I tried to clear a list today (which I do rather rarely, considering
> > that just doing l = [] works most of the time) and was shocked, SHOCKED
> > to notice that there is no clear() method. Dicts have it, sets have it,
> > why do lists have to be second class citizens?
>
I tried to clear a list today (which I do rather rarely, considering
that just doing l = [] works most of the time) and was shocked, SHOCKED
to notice that there is no clear() method. Dicts have it, sets have it,
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Sybren Stuvel wrote:
> Why forget it? I've written my own web framework
> (http://www.unrealtower.org/) and it works great! It was a good
Some reasons:
- Waste. When you write your own framework, you are helping yourself.
If you use an existing framework and possibly contribute patches to it,
yo
Bo Yang wrote:
> There are very good web framework for java and ruby ,
> Is there one for python ?
There are many good ones.
> I want to write a web framework for python based on
> mod_python as my course homework , could you give some
> advise ?
Implement yet another web framework? It needs to
Torsten Bronger wrote:
> Has Wax exceeded the critical mass so that one can be quite certain
> that it will still be maintained, say, next year? (Sincere question
> since I don't know.)
I was a bit worried about this myself, but after browsing the source I
have to say I'm not terribly so anymor
t; What line of work is not supported in eclipse?
C++ programming for Symbian OS. Editing the C++ code works, debugging
doesn't, at least yet.
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Timothy> wished whilst still having everything readily available.
Eclipse allows this as well. ctrl+m is maximize/unmaximize.
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could evolve gradually, and reach a useful stage (i.e. have several
handy tools) quickly.
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the
first place, given that everyone can identify the idiom
immediately. It's 4 keystrokes less.
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the interesting tidbits from the depths of
500-post threads where people can't be bothered to change the subject
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#x27;
Shane> I'm Christian and I think it's funny. ;-) Some background:
Shane> http://scriptures.lds.org/rev/13/16-18#16
Shane> http://www.greaterthings.com/Word-Number/666HolyBible.htm
Ah, it was *obvious* from the start that the placement of ASCII
letters was
this: "index" and "sex" both end with "ex", which
Greg> is short for "exception".
Or something about the use of index finger being an exception from the
conventional strategy...
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nd you won't have anything to remember:
Peter> 'foo bar baz'.find('spam')
Peter> 'spanish inquisition'.index('parrot')
But which one raises an exception, and which one returns -1?
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Christian> RPython, a sub-language of Python that is implicitly
Christian> defined by "simple and static enough to be compilable".
Could it be possible to tag some modules in application code as
RPython-compatible, making it possible to implement the speed critical
par
n python.
MyClass* c = new MyClass(12,13);
is equal to
c = MyClass(12,13)
There is no equivalent to
MyClass c(12,13);
because it's not needed.
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>>>>> "Ville" == Ville Vainio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ville> This is not about PyPy but it might help:
Ville> http://www.python.org/pycon/dc2004/papers/1/paper.pdf
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rations) to avoid dict
lookups in method dispatch.
This is not about PyPy but it might help:
http://www.python.org/pycon/dc2004/papers/1/paper.pdf
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>>>>> "brian" == brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
brian> to build expertise and confidence, etc. People are more
brian> important than programming language.
Or so you would think before writing sizeable software in C++.
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George> Maybe they know something we don't.
The information is generally reserved for 34DEG pythonistas. All will
be cleared for lower degree aspirants in due time.
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It's convincing, but I would still prefer to leave the decision of
pulling the trigger on the foot for the implementor of the block
function, with the recommendation that all exceptions are
propagated. What happened to "we are all adults here"?
I don't min
nly real reason for
choosing Ruby over Python blown away...
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ony> and invoke it as something like::
Tony> block locking(lock):
Tony> CODE
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console window has a limited number of
Brian> selectable fonts, it doesn't work terribly well.
Hmm, do you consider the fonts in a console window unreadable? I've
given a few presentations using ipython on win32 and it worked alright
- but I suppose the projector quality is
of) are connected "directly" to the internet (in the sense that
all ports are open). Blocking is reserved for the modem, just the way
it should be...
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and psp (python server pages)
for a more straightforward conversion:
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/python/2004/02/26/python_server_pages.html
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odeville, also written in Python.
Or bazaar-ng, also written in python.
Bruce> Codeville's said to be pretty usable.
Ditto, through the repo format has not been stabilized yet.
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nd debugger are the most obvious ones. Eclipse itself
is also quite a "feature".
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>>>>> "Kent" == Kent Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Kent> if frequency.has_key(word):
Kent> frequency[word] += 1
Kent> else:
Kent> frequency[word] = 1
This is a good place to use 'get' method of dict:
frequency[word]
>>>>> "Brian" == Brian Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Brian> Ville Vainio wrote:
>> Perhaps you are just being impatient?
>>
>> Also, make sure that Preferences/pydev/code completion has
>> "Autocomplete o
hing in your source
file that trips up pydev?
Whining at the pydev mailing list might work as well.
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#x27;ve used does it. This is
Brian> more like semi-automatic code completion.
It works like that for me.
I type:
import os
os.
And I get the list of completions.
Perhaps you are just being impatient?
Also, make sure that Preferences/pydev/code completion has
"Autocomplete on '.&
>>>>> "pydev" == Brian Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
pydev> * PyDev isn't yet mature enough to make it practical for me
What version? PyDev has increased in maturity quite a bit lately.
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re.UNICODEre.__name__ re.finditer re.subn
re.LOCALE re.VERBOSEre.compilere.match re.template
re.M re.X re.engine re.purge re.__class__
[~]|129> re.
ISTR the completion can be added to plain old python prompt as well,
through rlcompleter.
esign.
Emre> I wonder how these issues are implemented in Python are
Emre> there any documents or articles about it, which I can read
Emre> and get an idea.
It's built around string lookup.
obj.stuff() -> look up what object is associated with string 'stuff'
t; in a list or a generator with () or [].
Still, list comprehensions should be implemented in terms of genexps
to get rid of the LC variable that is visible outside the scope of the
LC.
Jeremy> should be relatively simple), it's not worth breaking that
Jeremy> code.
Wel
d library functions didn't raise
them, the feature would not be worth much.
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less punctuation to worry about,
no error handling needed (exceptions take care of it automatically).
I would also venture to guess that random (adult) Python programmers
would be of higher skill level as far as programming in general goes
(know more languages, have a "good taste"...).
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of getting
Ilpo> the regexps, but how and where to store the compiled data?
Ilpo> Is there a way to put it to the byte code file?
Do what you already did - dump the regexp cache to a separate file.
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uring
Leif> completeness. PHP isn't.
+1 QOTW.
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x27;t you use external validation on the created xml? Validating
it every time sounds like way too much like Javaic B&D to be fun
anymore. Pickle should serve you well, and would probably remove about
half of your code. "Do the simplest thing that could possibly work"
and all that.
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he regexps? I can't imagine you change more
than, say, 10 of the regexps a day (compiling of which is an
insignificant performance hit) and when you "ship" the script, you
will freeze the regexps anyway.
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s. One
Ilpo> example is the xmlproc parser in PyXML,
Read the source for sre.py, esp. _compile. The compiled regexps are
cached, so when you invoke e.g. re.match(), it doesn't recompile the
regexp.
So this point is moot, and perl's approach is excessive special
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mp; nope. It would be easy-ish to get Python working on a console
level on 9300/9500 if there was access to the source code...
There's also an open source implementation of Python for UIQ (UI
toolkit used by SonyEricsson)
See
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It would be interesting to see benchmarks comparing different
templating system. I suppose a web templating system like PSP (of
mod_python) would be optimized for speed.
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t Ouput.
Have you tried the 'subprocess' module to see whether it solves your
problems, new in 2.4?
That said, I've never had the problems you describe with normal popen*
calls either.
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MSH passes data between
beliavsky> the various commandlets as arbitrary objects.
They clearly read my rant from last summer
http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=du7brj2mpg9.fsf%40mozart.cc.tut.fi
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27;t need to be
"transferred" - just put up version control somewhere and we'll see
what happens :-).
In the meantime I would suggest win32 users to do as I do and use a
different keyboard layout. US layout is better for programming anyway
and you learn it in a day or two. Settings->
dinavian character (ÃÃ) on ipython
console, luckily I never have to do that :-).
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tually bump into a
problem where you need to be able to do bash scripting. There's the
'Unix romantic' movement that still thinks shell scripts are a good
idea, but this is my .02EUR to point out that not everyone agrees with
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nstead of " when
Claudio> trying to input quotation marks?
This has been reported previously - apparently it's a problem with
Gary's readline module (or however it was called ;-), and hacking it
solved the problem for someone. I suggest you search the ipython
mailing list
rev-expand to F4,
jjl> and it seems even better than 'proper' completion (for
jjl> reducing keystrokes, anyway).
But does not work when you don't know/can't recall what methods are
available for the object you are looking at.
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>>>>> "caneff" == ChinStrap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
caneff> Anyone want to send me a configuration setup with Python
caneff> in mind, and decent colors?
http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/ColorTheme
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>>>>> "Sunnan" == Sunnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Sunnan> Ville Vainio wrote:
Sunnan> Also, Guido recently urged people to explicitly write
Sunnan> recursions rather than to use reduce - which I thought was
Sunnan> completely in
arning unless you are an
emacs user already. Emacs also looks so horrible in Linux that I tend
to go for Kate when I'm at home.
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on list comprehensions and generator expressions. You'll see
the terse side of Python (and genexps look kinda poetic too ;-).
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what a piece of code does. It's a code that you wish you could train a
monkey to write for you while you go for lunch. Think C++ or Java.
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e for 'keytransform' feature apart from the uses that would be
better covered by hash/comparison hooks?
It would be lovely to have something like this in the stdlib (or
anywhere, for that matter). Think about the use cases for hashing via
by os.path.normcase, str.lower...
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>>>>> "Daniel" == Daniel Dittmar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Daniel> Ville Vainio wrote:
>> I need a dict (well, it would be optimal anyway) class that
>> stores the keys as strings without coercing the case to upper
>> or l
.keys()
['Hi','hoho']
Note that 'Hi' preserved the case. I imagine that 'Hi' and 'hi' would
need to share the same hash value in order for the lookup to be fast.
Anyone have a an implementation that I could use? Quick googling only
produced implem
t such operations
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e. I'd rather see a more modular and 'slimmer' Python, what with
the advent of Python for S60 and other embedded uses.
Perhaps what you need is 'from usefulstuff import *', with usefulstuff
having os, sys, 'itertools as it', &c.
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>>>>> "Ville" == Ville Vainio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ville> To me, nothing is more natural than "ab" + "cd" ==
Ville> "abcd". Also [1,2] + [3,4] == [1,2,3,4]. "Dot product" is
Ville> not really to
oncatenation (string
Antoon> concatenation included)
To me, nothing is more natural than "ab" + "cd" == "abcd". Also [1,2]
+ [3,4] == [1,2,3,4]. "Dot product" is not really too useful in real
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feel they should be.
(urgh, way too serious to be pythonic, but it's 5:14am here)
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ke an OS than any other home computer till then. And
Christos> man, wasn't 68k assembly a joy :)
Linus Torvalds also bought Sinclair Ql back in the day - I was
quite surprised to find out that it had a 32bit CPU (according to his
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a Java programmer, when confronted with a problem, should think "how
can I solve this using lists, dicts and tuples?" (and perhaps also my
new favourite, sets). Class-based solution should be chosen only after
seeing that the problem can't be trivially sol
>>>>> "Robin" == Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Robin> well that's nice, but I don't do blogs and certainly don't
You don't need to "do" much - just go to planetpython.org
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ose who were afraid the project is
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ols.html,
This (PyProtocols) seems to be the one with biggest momentum at the
time being, so if you can't be bothered to perform an independent and
balanced evaluation, go for PyProtocols :-).
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he real one would have the same problem. And who
Torsten> knows how C# looks like in 10 years.
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?PythonVsRuby
seems to suggest that Python has better Unicode support than Ruby.
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ame name for all those little functions to avoid
polluting the namespace. Choose 'L' if it gives you that cozy
lambda-ish feel.
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>>>>> "John" == John Machin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
John> You can get gnu Windows versions of awk sed and most other
John> suchlike goodies off the net ...
Yeah, google for 'unxutils'. Cygwin versions of these tools can be a
headache so
Damjan> if line.endswith('end'): printing=0
No, it's still line.startswith('end'), not endswith.
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the documentation I've seen regarding these features mentions that the
user probably doesn't need to know about them; this is especially true
for metaclasses.
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s of pyGTK as well.
People coming from VB background probably also appreciate the ability
to draw the UI in point&click style:
http://gazpacho.sicem.biz/
http://wxglade.sourceforge.net/
Unfortunately these seem to still be a tad rough around the edges...
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