On 5/18/25 15:16, Larry Martell wrote:
https://youtu.be/pqBqdNIPrbo?si=P2ukSXnDj3qy3HBJ
Get ready Guido:
"I'd like to thank the Academy ..."
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On 4/24/23 11:32, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2023-04-24, Grant Edwards wrote:
The other big advantage of an ncurses program is that since curses
support is in the std library, a curses app is simpler to
distribute. Right now, the application is a single .py file you
just copy to the destination
On 4/24/23 09:14, Stefan Ram wrote:
Grant Edwards writes:
The other big advantage of an ncurses program is that since curses
support is in the std library, a curses app is simpler to distribute.
IIRC curses is not in the standard library /on Windows/. I miss
a platform independent (well
On 9/5/22 21:22, Meredith Montgomery wrote:
I never read a book on Python. I'm looking for a good one now. I just
searched the web for names such as Charles Petzold, but it looks like he
never wrote a book on Python. I also searched for Peter Seibel, but he
also never did. I also tried to sea
On 10/10/20 2:35 PM, Marco Sulla wrote:
> He should also calculate the carbon dioxide emitted by brains that
> works in C++ only. I omit other sources.
>
yes, methane is an alleged greenhouse gas as well
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On 8/19/20 3:29 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
> On 8/19/20 12:40 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>> On 8/19/20 2:00 PM, Karen Shaeffer wrote:
>
>>> Considering all your posts on this thread, it is reasonable to infer you
>>> have some ideological motivations.
>>
>>
On 8/19/20 1:10 PM, J. Pic wrote:
> Tim, don't you also think that statements should be backed by
> evidence, even more if they are particularly accusatory ?
>
> We'll be lucky if S&W's editor doesn't sue the PSF for slandering for
> publishing that S&W "upholds white supremacy".
>
As a general
On 8/19/20 2:00 PM, Karen Shaeffer wrote:
> Where you conclude with: "Methinks there is an ideological skunk in the
> parlor …”
>
> Considering all your posts on this thread, it is reasonable to infer you have
> some ideological motivations.
My motivation was to demonstrate that if people of yo
On 8/18/20 12:18 PM, gia wrote:
> That's why I picked Math, it is also universally accepted, it's very
> strict, and it leaves the reader to decide its color based on themselves
> (it's not white btw :)
Sorry, but when it comes to the demands of the woke, you are not
immune. Reported widely ear
On 8/19/20 8:35 AM, Alexandre Brault wrote:
> I've not seen anyone objecting to the idea of removing the reference to
> Strunk and White in favour of the underlying message of "be understandable by
> others who may read your comments" (there were at most a few philosophical
> "what is understand
On 8/18/20 6:34 PM, rmli...@riseup.net wrote:
> I would kindly recommend that folks just educate themselves on what
Speaking of being educated ... Could you please do an exposition
for all us ignorant types on the books that really animate
your worldview:
The_Origin of the Family, Private P
On 8/18/20 6:34 PM, rmli...@riseup.net wrote:
> I would kindly recommend that folks just educate themselves on what
I would also like to help you become educated. Be sure to check
out these literary treasures - they are the foundation of the
worldview you are espousing:
The_Origin of the Famil
On 8/18/20 12:28 PM, justin walters wrote:
> I apologize for being ageist earlier as well. That was out of line.
I am likely older than you and there is no reason to apologise.
Only the profoundly undeveloped psyche takes every opportunity to
find offense when none is intended. It is the sign of
On 8/17/20 1:26 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> For context, see this commit:
>
> https://github.com/python/peps/commit/0c6427dcec1e98ca0bd46a876a7219ee4a9347f4
>
> The commit message is highly politically charged and is now a
> permanent part of the Python commit history. The Python Steering
> Counc
I have a weird problem I could use a bit of help with ...
I have successfully installed 3.8.5 using pew/pythonz on a BSD FreeBSD system.
But when I attempt to install it on a Linux system I get the traceback below.
In this case, pew/pythonz were installed locally in my own account using system
nat
On 12/24/19 6:37 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
> And you all are aware that this kind of string concatenation
> happens in C and C++, too, aren't you?
>
> main.c
>
> #include
> int main( void ){ puts( "a" "b" ); }
>
> transcript
>
> ab
Noting that it has been a long time since I looked at the
On 12/23/19 8:35 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 12:56 PM DL Neil via Python-list
> wrote:
>> However, your point involves the fact that whereas:
>>
>> 1 + 2 # 3 is *clearly* addition, and
>> "a" + "b" # "ab" is *clearly* concatenation
>>
>> "a" "b" # al
On 12/23/19 7:52 PM, DL Neil wrote:
>
> WebRef: https://docs.python.org/3/reference/lexical_analysis.html
Yep, that explains it, but it still feels non-regular to me. From a pointy
headed academic
POV, I'd like to see behavior consistent across types. Again ... what do I know?
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If I do this:
foo = [ "bar", "baz" "slop", "crud" ]
Python silently accepts that and makes the middle term "bazslop".
BUT, if I do this:
foo = [ "bar", "baz" 1, "crud" ]
or this:
foo = [ "bar", 2 1, "crud" ]
The interpreter throws a syntax error.
This is more of an intellectual
On 12/10/19 12:37 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 5:01 AM Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>>
>> On 12/10/19 10:36 AM, Peter Pearson wrote:
>>> Just to be sure: you *are* aware that the "Birthday Paradox" says
>>> that if you pick your 10-di
On 12/10/19 10:36 AM, Peter Pearson wrote:
> Just to be sure: you *are* aware that the "Birthday Paradox" says
> that if you pick your 10-digit strings truly randomly, you'll probably
> get a collision by the time of your 10**5th string . . . right?
I did not consider this, but the point is taken.
On 12/9/19 8:54 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Dec 2019 18:52:11 -0600, Tim Daneliuk
> declaimed the following:
>
>>
>> - Each of these services needs to produce a string of ten digits guaranteed
>> to be unique
>> on a per service instance basis A
On 12/9/19 8:50 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Tim Daneliuk writes:
>> - Imagine an environment in which there may be multiple instances of a given
>> microservice written in Python.
>
> Decide the maximum number of microservice instances, say 1000. Chop up
> the 10 digit ra
I ran across a kind of fun problem today that I wanted to run past you Gentle
Geniuses (tm):
- Imagine an environment in which there may be multiple instances of a given
microservice written in Python.
- Each of these services needs to produce a string of ten digits guaranteed to
be unique
On 7/20/19 4:28 PM, Brian Oney wrote:
> Why not make a compromise? What would be a potential pitfall of the
> following spitbang?
>
> #!python
Not sure this really changes the discussion.
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On 7/21/19 8:47 AM, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> That's fine. Unlike Tim I don't claim that anybody who disagrees with me
> must be a newbie.
Peter, that's ad hominem and unfair. I never said anything close to that.
What I said is that if someone were to spend an extended period of time
in devops and
On 7/20/19 6:04 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> If you require a specific outcoming, set a specific environment. It is under
> your control. Control it.
Exactly right. I have just had the REALLY irritating experience of trying to
bootstrap a
location insensitive version of linuxbrew that mostly wo
On 7/20/19 6:04 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> Are you aware of every systemwide command that happens to be
> implemented in Python, such that you won't execute any of them while
> you have the venv active?
No, but this has never been a problem because the newer versions of
python tend to be pretty g
On 7/20/19 5:47 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> On 7/20/19 5:14 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> Using env for everything is a terrible idea and one that
>> will basically make virtual environments useless.
>
> Not if you manage them properly.
>
> Everyone's mileage is di
On 7/20/19 5:14 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> Using env for everything is a terrible idea and one that
> will basically make virtual environments useless.
Not if you manage them properly.
Everyone's mileage is different, but when I enter a venv, I ensure everything I
do
there is packaged to work t
On 7/20/19 2:56 PM, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> On 2019-07-20 14:11:44 -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>> So, no, do NOT encode the hard location - ever. Always use env to
>> discover the one that the user has specified. The only exception is
>> /bin/sh which - for a variety of r
On 7/20/19 1:20 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 4:13 AM Michael Speer wrote:
>>
>> You may want to use `#!/usr/bin/env python3` instead.
>>
>> There is a concept in python called the virtual environment. This used to
>> be done with a tool called virtualenv in python2, and is n
On 7/17/19 4:24 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> Agreed. There are a number of other languages where splitting on an
> empty delimiter simply fractures the string into characters (I checked
> Pike, JavaScript, Tcl, and Ruby), and it's a practical and useful
> feature. +1.
Not only that, it makes the la
On 2/26/19 3:54 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Consider this function:
>
> def fun():
> f = open("lock")
> flock.flock(f, fcntl.LOCK_EX)
> do_stuff()
> sys.exit(0)
>
> Question: can a compliant Python implementation close f (and,
> consequently, release the file l
On 10/28/2018 02:08 PM, Akkana Peck wrote:
> Tim Daneliuk writes:
>> However, the highlighted text must be copied explicitly:
>>
>> Highlight
>> Ctl-C
> [ ... ]
>> X actually has several clipboard buffers and it can be tricky to get this
>> going.
On 10/28/2018 02:08 PM, Akkana Peck wrote:
> Tim Daneliuk writes:
>> However, the highlighted text must be copied explicitly:
>>
>> Highlight
>> Ctl-C
> [ ... ]
>> X actually has several clipboard buffers and it can be tricky to get this
>> going.
On 10/27/2018 08:17 AM, Musatov wrote:
> I am wondering if Python could be used to write a program that allows:
>
> 1. Highlight some text
> 2. Ctl+HOTKEY1 stores the string of text somewhere as COPIEDTEXT1
> 3. Highlight another string of text
> 4. Ctl+HOTKEY1 stores another string of text somewh
On 10/12/2018 11:43 AM, Skip Montanaro wrote:
> I sort of skimmed ESR's post, and sort of skimmed this thread, so
> obviously I'm totally qualified to offer my observations on the post
> and follow ups. :-)
Skip -
In the 15-ish years I've been reading this group, this has NEVER been
an obstacle f
On 10/11/2018 12:15 AM, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Paul Rubin wrote [concerning GIL removal]:
>> It's weird that Python's designers were willing to mess up the user
>> language in the 2-to-3 transition but felt that the C API had to be kept
>> sarcosanct. Huge opportunities were blown at multiple leve
On 07/14/2018 07:40 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> You'd better avoid most of JavaScript, C++, and most other languages,
> then. Every language feeps a little, and Python is definitely not as
> bad as some.
Point Of Order: C++ is one gigantic feep to be avoided at all costs... :)
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On 07/14/2018 04:09 AM, Christian Gollwitzer wrote:
> I agree with this observation and it feels quite strange to me. I regularly
> use three languages (C++, Python and Tcl), all three are under active
> development, and IMHO all of them have flaws, there are is always something
> which is elega
On 07/14/2018 10:16 AM, Skip Montanaro wrote:
>> Is it irrational to wonder whether projects should be looking to migrate to
>> new languages? This kind of announcement makes me worry for the future.
>
> Umm, yeah. The language is stable, widely used packages are stable.
> Guido actually has littl
On 07/02/2018 06:22 PM, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> A
> truly good programmer will be able to learn about the language
> being used on the job.
Except that the current attempt is to use techniques like agile,
scrum, pair programming, and so forth to turn programming into
a factory activity. High degre
On 07/01/2018 12:17 PM, MRAB wrote:
> On 2018-07-01 18:06, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
>> was viewing pep526, so, finally, python cannot do without hinting the type
>> as other languages?
>> will python finally move to
>> int x = 3 where int is a pre annotation?
>>
>> i am not arguing it's usef
On 03/19/2018 02:05 PM, bartc wrote:
> I've often wondered what the guys who invented C (around 1970) must have been
> smoking to have come up with some of those ideas.
I dunno, but I do know that - if they were smoking something - it was
rolled in greenbar paper ...
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On 12/17/2017 12:41 AM, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Can somebody point out to me some py-based template languages interpreters
> resources?
>
> Thank you !
>
http://jinja.pocoo.org/
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On 09/16/2017 09:59 AM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> On 09/16/2017 12:38 AM, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
>> /rant on
>>
>> So apparently everyone who disagrees that Python should be more like
>> Javascript
>> is an old greybeard fuddy-duddy yelling "Get off my lawn!&
On 09/16/2017 12:38 AM, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
> /rant on
>
> So apparently everyone who disagrees that Python should be more like
> Javascript
> is an old greybeard fuddy-duddy yelling "Get off my lawn!" to the cool kids --
> and is also too stupid to know how dumb they are.
>
> "Hi, I've been p
On 09/16/2017 12:38 AM, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
> /rant on
>
> So apparently everyone who disagrees that Python should be more like
> Javascript
> is an old greybeard fuddy-duddy yelling "Get off my lawn!" to the cool kids --
> and is also too stupid to know how dumb they are.
>
> "Hi, I've been p
On 08/10/2017 09:28 AM, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
> Every few years, the following syntax comes up for discussion, with some
> people
> saying it isn't obvious what it would do, and others disagreeing and saying
> that it is obvious. So I thought I'd do an informal survey.
>
> What would you expect t
On 08/05/2017 05:36 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> On 8/5/17 5:41 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>> On 08/05/2017 11:16 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
>>> It uses
>>> reference counting, so most objects are reclaimed immediately when their
>>> reference count goes to zero
On 08/05/2017 05:36 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> On 8/5/17 5:41 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>> On 08/05/2017 11:16 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
>>> It uses
>>> reference counting, so most objects are reclaimed immediately when their
>>> reference count goes to zero
On 08/05/2017 05:58 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 7:32 AM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>> On 08/05/2017 03:21 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> After a 'with' block,
>>> the object *still exists*, but it has been "exited" in some way
On 08/05/2017 05:58 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 7:32 AM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>> On 08/05/2017 03:21 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> After a 'with' block,
>>> the object *still exists*, but it has been "exited" in some way
On 08/05/2017 11:16 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> It uses
> reference counting, so most objects are reclaimed immediately when their
> reference count goes to zero, such as at the end of local scopes.
Given this code:
class SomeObject:
.
for foo in somelist:
a = SomeObject(foo)
b
On 08/05/2017 03:21 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> After a 'with' block,
> the object *still exists*, but it has been "exited" in some way
> (usually by closing/releasing an underlying resource).
The containing object exists, but the things that the closing
logic explicitly released do not. In some
On 08/04/2017 07:00 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> Again, don't stress about exactly when objects get
> disposed of; it doesn't matter.
Respectfully, I disagree strongly. Objects get build on the heap and
persist even when they go out of scope until such time garbage
collection takes place. This i
On 08/04/2017 01:52 AM, Peter Otten wrote:
> It looks like Python is fairly competetive:
>
> $ wc -l hugequote.txt
> 100 hugequote.txt612250
> $ cat unquote.py
> import csv
>
> with open("hugequote.txt") as instream:
> for field, in csv.reader(instream):
> print(field)
>
> $
On 08/02/2017 10:05 AM, Daiyue Weng wrote:
> Hi, I am trying to removing extra quotes from a large set of strings (a
> list of strings), so for each original string, it looks like,
>
> """str_value1"",""str_value2"",""str_value3"",1,""str_value4"""
>
>
> I like to remove the start and end quotes
On 06/29/2017 09:03 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> I've forked a copy of https://github.com/Roguelazer/muttdown and have
> been adding a few features and fixing a few bugs. It's meant to be
When doing this sort of thing, I find 'pew' virtual environments immensely
helpful. They allow you to control
On 06/29/2017 09:03 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> I've forked a copy of https://github.com/Roguelazer/muttdown and have
> been adding a few features and fixing a few bugs. It's meant to be
When doing this sort of thing, I find 'pew' virtual environments immensely
helpful. They allow you to control
On 01/23/2017 02:19 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 6:59 AM, Grant Edwards
> wrote:
>> On 2017-01-23, breamore...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> The article is here http://lenkaspace.net/index.php/blog/show/111
>>
>> I don't really think any of his points are valid, but one way that
On 01/23/2017 11:24 AM, breamore...@gmail.com wrote:
> The article is here http://lenkaspace.net/index.php/blog/show/111
>
> Kindest regards.
>
> Mark Lawrence.
>
Beyond silly. Languages - like all tools - can be used properly or badly.
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On 01/08/2017 06:18 PM, Deborah Swanson wrote:
> (haha, unless
> you ask)
C'mon, go for it ... there hasn't been a good rant here in
4 or 5 minutes ...
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On 11/13/2015 05:14 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 10:04 AM, fl wrote:
>> I read the following code snippet. A question is here about '@'.
>> I don't find the answer online yet.
>>
>> What function is it here?
>>
>>
>> @pymc.deterministic
>> def theta(a=alpha, b=beta):
>>
On 11/13/2015 01:56 PM, Laura Creighton wrote:
> In a message of Fri, 13 Nov 2015 13:14:08 -0600, Tim Daneliuk writes:
>> On 11/13/2015 12:32 AM, Christian Gollwitzer wrote:
>>> Apfelkiste:Sources chris$
>>
>> Well, I get window and when I do this:
>>
>>
On 11/13/2015 03:30 PM, Christian Gollwitzer wrote:
> Am 13.11.15 um 20:14 schrieb Tim Daneliuk:
>> On 11/13/2015 12:32 AM, Christian Gollwitzer wrote:
>>> Apfelkiste:Sources chris$
>>
>> Well, I get window and when I do this:
>>
>> pack [button .b -text
On 11/13/2015 01:58 PM, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 11/13/2015 12:14 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>> On 11/13/2015 12:32 AM, Christian Gollwitzer wrote:
>>> Apfelkiste:Sources chris$
>>
>> Well, I get window and when I do this:
>>
>> pack [button .b -text
On 11/13/2015 12:32 AM, Christian Gollwitzer wrote:
> Apfelkiste:Sources chris$
Well, I get window and when I do this:
pack [button .b -text Hello -command exit]
Nothing appears.
tkinter appears borked
I have reinstalled once already, will try again
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On 11/12/2015 10:46 PM, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 11/12/2015 05:25 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>> On 11/11/2015 08:25 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Tim Daneliuk
>>> wrote:
>>>> I am the author of twander (https://www.tundrawar
On 11/11/2015 08:12 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Tim Daneliuk writes:
>> Some months ago, I put it on a couple of VPS servers (FreeBSD
>> and Linux) and BOOM, it doesn't run. I asked around here and got some
>> suggestions and then did some homework.
>
> I'd e
On 11/11/2015 08:25 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Tim Daneliuk
> wrote:
>> I am the author of twander (https://www.tundraware.com/Software/twander).
>> This code has run flawlessly for years on FreeBSD, Linux, MacOS and
>> Windows. Some m
I am the author of twander (https://www.tundraware.com/Software/twander).
This code has run flawlessly for years on FreeBSD, Linux, MacOS and
Windows. Some months ago, I put it on a couple of VPS servers (FreeBSD
and Linux) and BOOM, it doesn't run. I asked around here and got some
suggestions an
On 09/27/2015 06:32 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 9/27/2015 5:31 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>
>>> Of late, I am seeing core dumps of this program (which has been
>>> stable/mature for some
>>> years) but only on VPS servers, both FreeBSD 10 and CentOS 6/7.
>
>
On 09/27/2015 05:29 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Tim Daneliuk writes:
>> this is somehow VPS related but not sure where to start.
>
> How are you expecting tkinter to work on a vps, when there is no window
> system? It wouldn't surprise me if tk is crashing.
>
You may h
On 09/27/2015 04:20 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> I am the author of https://www.tundraware.com/Software/twander, a cross
> platform, macro-
> programmable file manager written in python/tkinter.
>
> Of late, I am seeing core dumps of this program (which has been stable/mature
>
I am the author of https://www.tundraware.com/Software/twander, a cross
platform, macro-
programmable file manager written in python/tkinter.
Of late, I am seeing core dumps of this program (which has been stable/mature
for some
years) but only on VPS servers, both FreeBSD 10 and CentOS 6/7.
Is
On 09/22/2015 04:43 PM, Chris Roberts wrote:
>
> (How do I make it into an index? )
> Preferably something fairly easy to understand as I am new at this.
>
> results = 134523 #(Integer)
>
> Desired:
> results = [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 2, 3] #(INDEX)
>
> Somehow I see ways to convert index to l
On 08/16/2015 02:40 PM, John McKenzie wrote:
>
> Hello, all. I am hoping some people here are familiar with the RPi.GPIO
> python module for the Raspberry Pi.
I am not familiar with the module, but I am quite familiar with dealing
with hardware interfacing, mostly in assembler.
One thing you
CAs to make that
problem go away. See:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/11/certificate-authority-encrypt-entire-web
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piece of metadata
is left around to misuse.
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On 05/22/2015 08:54 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 5/22/2015 5:40 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>
>> Lo these many years ago, I argued that Python is a whole lot more than
>> a programming language:
>>
>> https://www.tundraware.com/TechnicalNotes/Python-Is-Middlew
On 05/22/2015 11:11 PM, amber wrote:
> «»
>
> On 22/05/2015 21:40, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>>https://www.tundraware.com/TechnicalNotes/Python-Is-Middleware/
> Quoting that article
> «And no, you couldn't get a C based OS to do what TPF does even if you
> did have a c
ed a certain operating system, which shall remain
> nameless.
>
>
> /Grrr
>
CP/M ?
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uite a few),
> or "bytes in whatever codepage your system was set to" (anything that
> hasn't cared)?
>
> ChrisA
>
Lo these many years ago, I argued that Python is a whole lot more than
a programming language:
https://www.tundraware.com/TechnicalNotes/Python-Is-Mid
On 01/23/2015 04:57 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>> On 01/21/2015 05:55 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Tim Daneliuk
>>> wrote:
>>>> I find these kinds of discussions s
On 01/21/2015 05:55 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>> I find these kinds of discussions sort of silly. Once there is a critical
>> mass of installed base, no language EVER dies.
>
> Not sure about that. Back in the 1990
es/How-To-Pick-A-Programming-Language
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ssh-agent and key searching were still being used.
- Fixed error reporting blowout when key-exchange auth fails.
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On 11/26/2014 10:45 AM, alister wrote:
On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 10:02:57 -0600, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
On 11/26/2014 10:00 AM, random...@fastmail.us wrote:
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014, at 10:55, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
Nope. Password only exist in memory locally.
How does it send it to the remote sudo
On 11/26/2014 10:16 AM, random...@fastmail.us wrote:
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014, at 11:02, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
On 11/26/2014 10:00 AM, random...@fastmail.us wrote:
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014, at 10:55, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
Nope. Password only exist in memory locally.
How does it send it to the remote
On 11/26/2014 10:00 AM, random...@fastmail.us wrote:
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014, at 10:55, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
Nope. Password only exist in memory locally.
How does it send it to the remote sudo?
Over paramiko transport (ssh) and then only if it sees a custom
string coming back from sudo asking
On 11/26/2014 09:48 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 2:36 AM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
The more I think about this, the more I think I am just going to look for
the
string 'sudo' anywhere in the argument. This merely will force the user to
enter their sudo password i
the argument. This merely will force the user to
enter their sudo password if detected. If it turns out to be a false positive,
no harm will be done and the password will just go unused.
Thanks for the feedback.
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On 11/26/2014 08:12 AM, random...@fastmail.us wrote:
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014, at 01:04, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
In this case, I am not trying to write a fullblown language or recover
from syntax errors. Here's a usecase - I want to know whether I need
to use a sudo password when the user pas
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On 11/26/2014 06:56 AM, Tim Chase wrote:
On 2014-11-26 00:04, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
someprog.py uname && sudo cat /etc/sudoers
vs.
someprog.py uname && echo "sudo cat /etc/suoders"
In the first instance, I need the sudo passoword, in the second I
don't.
This
On 11/25/2014 07:54 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
Tim Daneliuk writes:
Here's the problem: Determine is the string S appears *outside* or
*inside* any such quotation.
This is a problem for parsing text. There is no general, simple
solution.
If someone tries to convince you they have one, be h
On 11/25/2014 07:44 PM, Tim Chase wrote:
On 2014-11-25 19:20, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
hen you find any opener, you seek its
corresponding closer, and then special-case /* to count any
additional /* and look for a */ for each one */ .
That's more or less where I was headed. I just w
On 11/25/2014 07:32 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
And what should happen with mismatched quotes?
do("th/*is", "and", "th*/at")
Match pairs as usual, and let the remaining unterminated quote run on.
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