Re: On-topic: alternate Python implementations

2012-08-04 Thread Temia Eszteri
On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 19:24:12 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: >On 04/08/2012 11:59, Stefan Behnel wrote: >> Mark Lawrence, 04.08.2012 12:05: >>> I agree so it's off topic and can't be discussed here. Isn't that right, >>> Stefan? >> >> Hmm, in case you are referring to a recent friendly and diplomati

Re: Eclipse and the Python plugin

2012-08-03 Thread Temia Eszteri
On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 06:54:04 -0700 (PDT), rusi wrote: >On Aug 3, 4:34 pm, lipska the kat wrote: >> A while ago someone asked me what I thought of the Eclipse plugin for >> python, well I just downloaded and installed the latest version of >> Eclipse for Java (Juno) followed by the Python plugin.

Re: ANN: dbf.py 0.94

2012-07-20 Thread Temia Eszteri
On 21 Jul 2012 03:34:44 GMT, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >tl;dr Easy there, tiger. No need to get riled up over a single nitpick over phrasing. ~Temia -- Invective! Verb your expletive nouns! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: ANN: dbf.py 0.94

2012-07-20 Thread Temia Eszteri
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 13:02:55 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: >On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Temia Eszteri >wrote: >> On 21 Jul 2012 00:50:13 GMT, Steven D'Aprano >> wrote: >> >>>> Latest version has a simpler, cleaner API, and works on PyPy (and &g

Re: ANN: dbf.py 0.94

2012-07-20 Thread Temia Eszteri
On 21 Jul 2012 00:50:13 GMT, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> Latest version has a simpler, cleaner API, and works on PyPy (and >> hopefully the other implementations as well ;), as well as CPython. >> >> Get your copy at http://python.org/pypi/dbf. > >I don't generally click on arbitrary links to find

Writing a wrapper - any tips?

2012-07-12 Thread Temia Eszteri
I'm going to be looking into writing a wrapper for the Allegro 5 game development libraries, either with ctypes or Cython. They technically have a basic 1:1 ctypes wrapper currently, but I wanted to make something more pythonic, because it'd be next to impossible to deal with the memory management

Re: Question:Programming a game grid ...

2012-06-27 Thread Temia Eszteri
On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 19:43:07 -0700 (PDT), alex23 wrote: >There are two ways to help people: by trying to understand what >they're doing, or by submitting them to endless pedantry. Only one of >those is actually helpful. Is it alright if I use that as a quote? Properly attributed, of course. --

Re: PySerial could not open port COM4: [Error 5] Access is denied - please help

2012-06-27 Thread Temia Eszteri
On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 22:18:59 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: >> Can you post a small example showing what you're doing? > >The best way to get help is to write as small a program as possible >that demonstrates the problem, and post it. I'll help you get >started... > >Does this program work? >

Re: XPlatform ToolKit

2012-06-27 Thread Temia Eszteri
On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:14:13 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: >On 27/06/2012 20:12, php...@gmail.com wrote: >> EnTK (batteries included) http://stk.phpyjs.com/ntk.zip >> EsTK (pilas incluidas) http://stk.phpyjs.com/stk.zip >> >> Reverse Engineer This >> > >sihT No no no, clearly it's sihT reenignE.

Re: cmd i/o stream module

2012-06-27 Thread Temia Eszteri
[Default] On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 18:37:52 +0530, prakash jp wrote: >Hi All, > >I am interested to interact with the command prompt, is there a module to >control the input/output stream. Thanks in advance for the pointers > >Thanks >Prakash Well, from the start, the sys module gives access to the s

Re: Strange threading behaviour

2012-06-21 Thread Temia Eszteri
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:12:07 -0700, Temia Eszteri wrote: > >Try appending the dump command with f.flush() and os.fsync(). > >~Temia Actually, wait, no. The behavior you're describing is indicating that the thread in question isn't even getting a chance to execute at all. I&

Re: Strange threading behaviour

2012-06-21 Thread Temia Eszteri
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 16:19:41 +0100, Rotwang wrote: >Hi all, I'm using Python 2.7.2 on Windows 7 and a module I've written is >acting strangely. I can reproduce the behaviour in question with the >following: > >--- begin bugtest.py --- > >import threading, Tkinter, os, pickle > >class savethread

Re: Career related question

2012-06-07 Thread Temia Eszteri
On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 22:23:47 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: >On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Stanley Lee wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> Can I only post jobs on Python's official website, or can I also >> direct the message to the appropriate mailing list in http://mail.python.org/ >> ? Btw, do I have to

Re: CPython 2.7: Weakset data changing size during internal iteration

2012-06-03 Thread Temia Eszteri
On 03 Jun 2012 16:20:11 GMT, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >And should I have known this from your initial post? I did discuss the matter with Terry Reedy, actually, but I guess since the newsgroup-to-mailing list mirror is one-way, there's no actual way you could've known. :/ Sigh, another problem out

Re: CPython 2.7: Weakset data changing size during internal iteration

2012-06-01 Thread Temia Eszteri
On 02 Jun 2012 03:05:01 GMT, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >I doubt that very much. If you are using threads, it is more likely your >code has a race condition where you are modifying a weak set at the same >time another thread is trying to iterate over it (in this case, to >determine it's length), a

Re: CPython 2.7: Weakset data changing size during internal iteration

2012-06-01 Thread Temia Eszteri
On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 18:42:22 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote: >I gather that the .references attribute is sometimes/always a weakset. >To determine its boolean value, it computes its length. For regular >sets, this is sensible as .__len__() returns a pre-computed value. Indeed. Back when I was using

CPython 2.7: Weakset data changing size during internal iteration

2012-06-01 Thread Temia Eszteri
I've got a bit of a problem - my project uses weak sets in multiple areas, the problem case in particular being to indicate what objects are using a particular texture, if any, so that its priority in OpenGL can be adjusted to match at the same time as it being (de)referenced by any explicit calls.

Re: python for android anyone?

2012-05-28 Thread Temia Eszteri
On Mon, 28 May 2012 08:56:51 -0700 (PDT), rusi wrote: >Ive been wanting to try the sl4a for a new android phone Ive got hold >of as spelt out at >http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/10940 > >Has anyone any experience/dos/donts for this? > >I am writing this while the update of the android sdk is

Re: usenet reading

2012-05-26 Thread Temia Eszteri
On Fri, 25 May 2012 23:30:24 -0600, Jason Earl wrote: >On Fri, May 25 2012, Jon Clements wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Normally use Google Groups but it's becoming absolutely frustrating - >> not only has the interface changed to be frankly impractical, the >> posts are somewhat random of what appear

Re: usenet reading

2012-05-25 Thread Temia Eszteri
[Default] On Fri, 25 May 2012 23:30:24 -0600, Jason Earl wrote: >On Fri, May 25 2012, Jon Clements wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Normally use Google Groups but it's becoming absolutely frustrating - >> not only has the interface changed to be frankly impractical, the >> posts are somewhat random of w

Re: Namespace hack

2012-05-24 Thread Temia Eszteri
[Default] On 25 May 2012 02:47:11 GMT, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >Do you object to the ability to write standard Python modules? > ># module.py >def spam(obj, n): >return len(obj) + n > >def ham(obj): >return spam(obj, 23) > > >By your apparent misunderstanding of the Zen, you think that thi

Re: Open Source: you're doing it wrong - the Pyjamas hijack

2012-05-09 Thread Temia Eszteri
If the support you have from the other contributors is anywhere near what you claim it is, I may as well be kissing Pyjamas goodbye. Doubt it, though - this whole post reeks of vagueities and doublespeak garbage. Too many undefined "whos". I'll wait until Leighton gets the reins back. And you kno

Re: syntax for code blocks

2012-05-04 Thread Temia Eszteri
You know what I find rich about all of this? >>>[ ... ]> I'd like to change the syntax of my module 'codeblocks' to make it >>>more >>>[ ... ]> pythonic. Kiuhnm posted a thread to the group asking us to help him make it more Pythonic, but he has steadfastly refused every single piece of help he

Re: syntax for code blocks

2012-05-03 Thread Temia Eszteri
> if only Python wasn't so rigid. what. You realize you'd have a little more luck with Python if you weren't wielding it like a cudgel in the examples you've posted here, right? Because it looks like you're treating the language as everything it isn't and nothing it is this whole time. No wonder

Re: pyjamas / pyjs

2012-05-03 Thread Temia Eszteri
>Anyone else following the apparent hijack of the pyjs project from its >lead developer? Not beyond what the lead developer has been posting on the newsgroup, no. Still a damn shame, though. What happens when you have an unresolvable ideological seperation like that is you branch, not take over.

Re: John Carmack glorifying functional programing in 3k words

2012-05-02 Thread Temia Eszteri
>On 27/04/12 03:11, Xah Lee wrote: >> John Carmack glorifying functional programing in 3k words >> >> http://www.altdevblogaday.com/2012/04/26/functional-programming-in-c/ >> >> where was he ten years ago? >> >> O, and btw, i heard that Common Lispers don't do functional >> programing, is that righ

Re: linux

2012-05-02 Thread Temia Eszteri
>can anyone say me how to subscribe linux mailing list like 'python >mailing list'. Actually i want to post question there. It'd probably be best to visit the mailing list (if any) for the distribution that you're using in particular. Odds are any such mailing list would be available on the distro

Re: syntax for code blocks

2012-05-01 Thread Temia Eszteri
Holy crap. Easy there, tiger. I understand you're frustrated, but the people here are trying to help, even if they've decided the means of helping is trying to explain why they feel your style of development isn't the best way to do things. You're going to wear out your welcome and not get any h

Re: Installing pygame on MacOS-X Lion with Python 3.3

2012-05-01 Thread Temia Eszteri
>I can't get it working : "No pygame module"... >Tried without success : >pygame-1.9.2pre-py2.7-macosx10.7.mpkg.zip >pygame-1.9.1release-python.org-32bit-py2.7-macosx10.3.dmg > >I am using Python 3 last version on MacOS-X Lion. > >Where is a step-by-step installation procedure ? > >Thanks, > >

Re: Trouble splitting strings with consecutive delimiters

2012-05-01 Thread Temia Eszteri
>> re.split(':|;|px', "width:150px;height:50px;float:right") > >You could recognize that the delimiter you want to strip is in fact px; >and not px in and of itself. > >So, try: > >re.split(':|px;', "width:150px;height:50px;float:right") > >Emile That won't work at all outside of the example case

Re: Learn Technical Writing from Unix Man in 10 Days

2012-04-29 Thread Temia Eszteri
>On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Xah Lee wrote: >> jason, are you trolling me, or me you? > >Am I Turing dreaming I am a machine, or a machine dreaming I am Turing? > >Personally, I've never Turred. > >ChrisA Turing got a pretty shit deal for all the great things he did - odds are a machine woul

Re: Learn Technical Writing from Unix Man in 10 Days

2012-04-29 Thread Temia Eszteri
>jason, are you trolling me, or me you? > >? > > Xah Depends on what you classify as "trolling" these days. In all honesty, the original concept of trolling seems to have become a lost art, with only a few people even knowing what the act actually was anymore, and in its absence everyone seems to

Re: syntax for code blocks

2012-04-29 Thread Temia Eszteri
>> Current Syntax: >> >> with res << func(arg1) << 'x, y': >> print(x, y) >> >> with res << func(arg1) << block_name << 'x, y': >> print(x, y) >> >> New Syntax: >> >> with res == func(arg1) .taking_block (x, y): >> print(x, y) >> >> with res == func(ar

Re: Learn Technical Writing from Unix Man in 10 Days

2012-04-28 Thread Temia Eszteri
>On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Temia Eszteri wrote: >> And what does this have to do with a multiplatform language like >> Python? :P > >Nothing. Xah Lee is a professional troll. You can save yourself some >trouble by ignoring his posts altogether. > >ChrisA

Re: Learn Technical Writing from Unix Man in 10 Days

2012-04-28 Thread Temia Eszteri
And what does this have to do with a multiplatform language like Python? :P ~Temia -- When on earth, do as the earthlings do. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: confusing doc: mutable and hashable

2012-04-28 Thread Temia Eszteri
>Yes, you're right. Being mutable and hashable are orthogonal properties. >The implication > mutable => non hashable >is just a design choice. > >The reason for such a choice is the following. If a key-element pair K:X >is added to a container C and then K is changed by some external Python >

Re: Python id() does not return an address [was Re: why () is () and [] is [] work in other way?]

2012-04-27 Thread Temia Eszteri
Steven, your posts are leaking out of their respective thread(s). Is this intentional? ~Temia -- When on earth, do as the earthlings do. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: generate random numbers in a deterministic way

2012-04-24 Thread Temia Eszteri
Assuming you're using the Python's random module, which works based on the Mersenne Twister, you can preset the seed with random.seed(hashable). More details here: http://docs.python.org/library/random.html#random.seed ~Temia On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 07:51:18 +0200, you wrote: >Hi, > >I'm working wi

Re: how many days in one year ?

2012-04-22 Thread Temia Eszteri
Better yet, write them out as constants if they're referenced more than once. In that case, if the planet gets knocked into a new orbital and rotational pattern, you can update accordingly if you, civilization, and Python all still exist. ~Temia On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 13:44:15 +0400, you wrote: >im

Re: pygame: output to file?

2012-04-17 Thread Temia Eszteri
Oh, forgot to mention some things. Also poorly phrased other things. Let me try that again. >* ImageMagick (http://www.imagemagick.org/) as Ian suggested - the >ctypes binding I found for this was too immature to use, and the other >option will require compiling, The 'other option' I meant here w

Re: pygame: output to file?

2012-04-17 Thread Temia Eszteri
Okay, superpollo. I'm looking at a few possible ways to do this (the Zen of Python hates me, even though I'm dutch-blooded!), and I'd like to ask a couple more questions before I dive into writing up a solution. First, are you simply trying to capture the framebuffer of a Pygame-made game in realt

Re: pygame: output to file?

2012-04-16 Thread Temia Eszteri
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:48:37 -0400, you wrote: >On 4/16/2012 8:37 AM, superpollo wrote: >> alex23 ha scritto: >>> On Apr 16, 7:34 pm, superpollo wrote: is there a way to convert the graphical output of a pygame application to a mpeg file or better an animated gif? i mean, not using an e

Re: Newbie python questions...

2012-04-14 Thread Temia Eszteri
>3) When ever I cllick on *.py file, >it runs by so fast that I can't see what's going on. > ?Is there a way to keep the pyconsole open 'til i decide to close >it? >Thanks...Vernon This one's answered easily enough - just open a command prompt window at that directory (shift-right click the folder