)
http://www.softwareverify.com/python/memory/index.html
The website provides 30 day evaluation versions of the software as well
as full product versions of the software. The evaluation versions are
fully functional with only the 30 day limit on usage.
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language.
Appears to use whitespace indentation for grouping.
http://fullpliant.org/pliant/language/parser/default_syntax.html
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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Carl
Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Stephen Kellett wrote:
>I don't really understand how a closing brace helps here. Care to
>explain why it helps you?
>(Deeply nested long functions are evil anyways. If you have such a
I didn&#
good.
Just found this on c.l.ruby. Seems kind of relevant.
My apologies if someone has posted this already -- I just received it:
http://www.americanscientist.org/template/AssetDetail/assetid/51982
The Semicolon Wars
Every programmer knows there is one true programming language.
A new one every
world anyway.
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23 years you know what I
>mean.
If you mean, should code be well written, thought about, well formatted,
sensible class/variable names, redesigned if you find a better way, sure
no problem with that.
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of indentation
Python fails compared to languages that use braces or END or end; etc.
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ed to document their code because its self
documenting - no hire. I've been writing and selling software for 23
years now and I still keep hearing this bull about self documenting
code. Sigh.
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of that type that
>didn't exist on iteration N-1 but exist on iteration N
And this, but for garbage collection generations.
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for flow
tracing, memory analysis and thread deadlock monitoring.
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Software Verification run with Python 2.2 upwards - no need to modify
the python source or binary.
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ing Python
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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Frank
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>> You could then also categorize this by type, e.g.
If you want a nice GUI and no requirement to modify your code Python
Memory Validator could be useful. http://www.softwareverify.com
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>Is there any memory profiler for Python programs? I
Python Memory Validator
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u want callstacks for all objects created and stats for
the memory allocated at these locations, no problem. If you want stats
for each generation of objects (a generation being the group allocated
between GC invocations), no problem. Plus a whole load of analysis and
query functions to allow you to
hat function node in the tree.
http://www.softwareverify.com
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Memory
Validator would have helped you identify that bug. Its in beta at the
moment if you want to try it.
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Windo
ver for the server part of AJAX.
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people. They do exist, but they
are rare.
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ed 2.0 and altering
>some code
I don't know if you have a Windows version of this software but if you
do you may find Python Memory Validator useful.
http://www.softwareverify.com/pythonMemoryValidator/index.html
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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
>I am having trouble identifying the source of a memory leak in a
>Windows Python program. The basic gist is as follows:
Perhaps Python Memory Validator can help you?
http://www.softwareverify.com/beta.php
Stephen
>how
>many times it has to access the symbol table to
>retrieve a specific item, and things like that.
Python Coverage Validator will help you there.
Python Performance Validator will help you there.
http://www.softwareverify.com
Windows NT/2000/XP/and above(vista, etc)
Steph
Validator may fit the bill. No
data on the website, just go straight to the beta page and select the
product. Windows NT/W2K/XP/etc..
http://www.softwareverify.com
http://www.softwareverify.com/beta.php?product=PMVB000
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parameters and return values. Python Bug Validator.
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things up
>implementing some of the functions in C. So I need profiling.
You haven't said which platform you are on. If you are on Windows you
may want to try Python Performance Validator.
http://www.softwareverify.com
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>wanna stop by my homemade glory hole?
I don't think anyone on this group will be interested in trying their
Python with that. Take it somewhere else.
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>T can be silent in England too ..
>
>frui'
>cricke'
Both of those words (fruit and cricket) have the letter T sounded.
Stephen (Nationality: English).
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st factor in at a fraction of 1% of productivity. I
don't really class improvements at that level as much to be shouted
about :-)
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from refactoring
tools are the least of your worries. Hiring good staff that know how to
write, test and debug software is very much more important than the
amount of time a refactoring tool will save.
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increases in software productivity they are hiring the
wrong people.
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to identify such people and steer clear of them (they generally do not
infect all companies).
All the best.
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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stephen Kellett
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Following my posting with the solution for anyone else that wants to
know the answer.
The solution appears to be not to use:
>module = PyImport_AddModule("gc");
But to use
module =
ct_GetItemString(dict, "collect");
}
}
Hopefully someone can shed some light on why this doesn't work, or
explain what the correct method should be if I am doing the wrong thing.
Answers as descriptions, Python or C most welcome.
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lease mode?
I've tried looking at the C API documentation but couldn't find anything
useful there.
We are using versions of Python from 2.2 upwards.
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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Will McGugan
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Please implement this as a Python module. I would like to compress my
mp3 collection to single bits.
Just think you could have better than broadband download speeds, on your
old 300bps modem!
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Stephen Kellett wrote:
[...]
Who's Guido?
Guido is the one, who should care by time about the status of the
python-community.
Who is care by time?
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people are just poking you with a stick to
> watch you jump?
jump:
[EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler
Essence:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/5ba2a0ba55d4c102
Lol, this guy is hopeless :-)
Who's Guido?
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on my hands
I'd try to write an IlliasBot to see how far I got before I was found
out. But I'm way too busy, so someone else will have to do it. I just
hope they do it in Python or Ruby so that these languages get more
publicity.
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le as his network news postings. One of the first things
I did was check out his website. I didn't gain a lot as it is written in
his typical automaton style. It actively discourages you from engaging.
Thats quite an achievement for a static piece of text.
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ing code that interacts with the library to see how best to use it.
I think its a bit like going back to a book after a few years. Its worth
returning because you will have forgotten some of what was so good first
time around.
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ates your arrogance, selfishness
and utter contempt for those replying to you.
And then you have the gall to blame your failure on others...
Next you'll be telling me the world is flat and held up by an infinite
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MinGW compatibility is not [only] my need.
It is an community need [at least partially]
Clearly not. If it was, using your logic, it would already exist.
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ill don't get it*.
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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Horsley
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Stephen Kellett wrote:
Who's "Guido"?
LOL Falling off my chair!!
I think the expression you are looking for is ROFL!
:-) Yes, but with that I could've been standing up before ending u
to tell
you).
Of course, based on your behaviour here (and currently in comp.lang.ruby
where you are spinning a nice yarn in not bothering to read up on the
answers people give you, even when their answers are detailed), I have
not much hope of you taking the above approach.
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x27;t correctly follow
this at the moment, IIRC).
Lots of points from Tony stating a different point of view. I'll assume
you are correct. However, surely if you Python 2.4 installed they'll
have this DLL anyway, so the point is moot, unless of course, Python 2.4
is in breach as well.
n't even start work without them, so I had them "taken for
granted" in my thoughts. I can see your problem :-) but I have no easy
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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Pat
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if I have both versions of Python installed - 2.3.5 and 2.4? Is there
an easy way to detect this and switch between the two dlls?
Eas
ed elsewhere, I'd love a link to
that resource, if you have it.
I'm probably not the best person to answer such a question. I'm mainly a
C/C++ (with Java under protest) person dabbling in Python/Ruby.
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hrough a bunch of configuration hassle that scares me away from
What configuration hassle? Can't be any harder than specifying a
different CRT surely?
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x27;m not sure I'm the person you are addressing (until
I saw the above, now I'm confused).
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its
obvious you have put some effort in before making your comments. In
other words I am not behaving in a contradictory way to what I specified
above.
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Studio Express (downloadable from the Microsoft's website). This DLL is
(to my understanding) part of Visual Studio 7.1 and Visual Studio
Express.
My mistake. Visual Studio Express is going to be part of
pect them to purchase a .NET compiler or go through a
See above.
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Hi Robert,
Weird, you hit "reply" and the newsreader does a "post". C'est la vie.
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Ruby. It was less time than he has spent complaining - and
that included rebuilding Python/Ruby, inspecting the source for what I
needed and performing many experiments before I succeeded.
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And yet there is not one company that has someone devoted full-time
to developing Python. Not even Guido.
Who's "Guido"?
LOL Falling off my chair!!
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crowd almost seemed incendiary - pretty much accused them of having a
lame language.
Most newcomers do not carry around a sense of entitlement that could
flatten a small village.
That has to rate as one of the funniest things I've read on usenet in
years.
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ou go. Failed the test. He is an AI. A human wouldn't make this
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Use Google or a different search engine to find the obvious website.
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d similar threads in comp.lang.ruby and
comp.lang.java.*.
You are a troll.
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best if it would be graphical like performance analysis from DevPartner
for Visual C++?
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ad assumed
Python would call for simplicity). Hence the differing results.
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n the lead, oh look! The Ferrari has blue
screened. The new regulations to reduce speeds in F1 are working, that
has really slowed him down...
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due to power management.
Try running multiple apps at the same time you are doing your
measurement, each of which has a variable loading. Each of these apps is
contributing to the count returned by RDTSC. That is what I was
referring to.
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otally accurate (multiple execution pipelines,
plus multithreading considerations).
You have to choose the system that works best for you. In many cases
RDTSC works OK.
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ht all the same. Either launch Python from VM
Validator, or inject VM Validator into your running Python.exe process.
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think). Or what about D?
Digital Mars have a D compiler.
http://www.digitalmars.com
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Still, Java feels like C++ done right, while being more wrong >:-[
Couldn't disagree more. Just about anything you want to do that is
low-level, is impossible in Java. Anyway this is off-topic.
es shows the implementation, plus the code
for this is well documented.
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it. Linux is not my main thing
these days (it was in '94 :-).
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However, I would like to understand first if pure python can leak
without the reference count increasing?
How are you determining that used memory is increasing?
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Tool is now in beta.
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mate. Don't think all snakes are slow - they aren't.
BTW. The suggestions - I like them, for what little that is worth.
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understood, and there are plenty of systems that do it. I just haven't
been able to find one for Python.
There is one at http://www.softwareverify.com as I mentioned in a
previous posting.
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