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unlock the file? It is annoying for me because I
often execfile various temporary files and it is a nuisance not to be
able to delete them.
I have tested with Python 2.5 on Windows... do other versions of Python
behave this way as well?
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about peer review in the education
community, where you could get students to verify one another's
programs... But this can sometimes be tricky.
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lculations()
if it:
use(it)
five (or even ten) times in a medium sized project than to have to
figure out what "aif" means. If the idiom is used 100 times, then
something is wrong: either system should be redesigned or introducing
"aif" is a good idea (but then Pyt
it requires me to define function useit instead of embedding the
code in aif call, but that has never been a problem for me: in reality,
the code I would want to execute would be complex enough to warrant it's
own function anyway. Of course, YMMV.
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t; Two questions: do you really voluntarily use libraries from crappy
#> developers?
Voluntarily as in "in my work place"? I mean, I *am* voluntarily staying
employed, if you wish look at it this way...
#> Second, you think a language can stop people from writing bad code?
N
ets out of sync with
semantics?
#> In Python, you group in your mind, and press indentation keys to make
#> it happen in your editor.
In Lisp, you group in your mind, and press parentheses keys to make it
happen in your editor.
#> The editor cannot help that much, because it cannot read
isp, why is Lisp a
#> > fringe language?
#> Because shifting to lisp somewhere in the middle of
#> your project or carear is VERY EXPENSIVE STEP.
Doesn't that say something about Lisp? Switching to most other useful
languages is a nice experience.
Luckily, that claim is obviously fals
wins. Including
#> automatic indentation. :)
Automatic indentation? Wow, that's cool... we in Python need to press
RET and sometimes even use this ugly ":" or "" key to get proper
indentation.
Oh, wait, you mean you need to type "(" and ")" in Lisp?
- to find the matching
#> paren and select everything contained between the two.
Oh, you mean you have never seen a Python environment which could mark
the current block of code?
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e taken before or
#> after a superclass's method, rather than over-riding that method
#> entirely? Sure, one can over-ride the method and then call it within
#> one's own code, but that obscures the meaning of what one's doing.
You can easily create a decorator which will do
example to 12 different control codes.
What you say is right, but only for bad Python code. Want to bet I can
write bad Lisp which will be just as unmaintainable?
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is take a block from one branch of "if" statement
and put it somewhere else (in a for loop, for example).
Sure, this requires you indent the block properly, although I am 100%
sure that I could teach emacs to adjust indentation automatically has I
needed to. I just never felt the need.
-
gt; primitiveness of Python makes editing easier.
#>
#> Why do you say that? Wouldn't a block in python be a "meaningful
#> textual entity" in the same way a lisp form would be?
No, it wouldn't, because that would make the argument false ;)
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er, I don't want to give up
#> the text editing power of Emacs to get it.
I don't know... I have never, personally, used Eclipse, so I cannot
comment on that. It is highly dependent on what you are working on, I
presume.
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S
es pretty well with Emacs,
and I suppose vi integrates pretty well with vi... Or do you mean
something else by "IDE"?
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effective and alway
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:35:37 -0700
enigmadude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
#> Slawomir Nowaczyk wrote:
#> > On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:35:27 -0700
#> > enigmadude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
#> >
#> > #> 2. I've never done this, but you might be able to enc
On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 15:11:16 -0300
Gerhard Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
#> On 2006-08-09 07:54:21, Slawomir Nowaczyk wrote:
#>
#> > Nope. Equivalence table can look like this:
#> >
#> >Python C
#> > variable
t point. Something about having fewer "code paths" to test or
#> something.
Number of return statements has absolutely *nothing* to do with number
of code paths to test.
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ort hook" is, it actually
needs to know the way to *decrypt* the module (secret key or
whatever). It means that if somebody decompiles the importing code, he
can just as well decompile the "hidden" one.
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Children are na
if not data:
#> break
#> print >> out, data + "?\n",
#>
#> print out.getvalue()
This looks slightly nicer, but still, I wish there was some kind of
StringIO.isEOF() to put in while condition.
Don't take me wrong, I love "while True" stuff, bu
is *will* be a real ValueError for negative integers ;-) ;-) ;-)
But no, I am not suggesting that... especially since "-0" is valid.
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On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 01:23:14 +0800
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#> Slawomir Nowaczyk wrote:
#> > Hello,
#> >
#> > Let's say I have a module "emacs", defining function eexecfile(file):
#> >
#> > def eexecfile(file):
#&
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f pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
#> I have kind of an interesting string, it looks like a couple hundred
#> letters bunched together with no spaces. Anyway, i'm trying to put a
#> "?" and a (\n) newline after every 100th character of the string and
#> the
goals was to provide a replacement for
file storage. There is python binding http://pysqlite.org which is,
IIRC, supposed to be in stdlib for Python 2.5
That said, if your disk and/or OS is lying about the fact whether it
has actually wrote the data or not, there is not much you can do.
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I lost the test in the
#> original if statement.
#>
#> So my question is, can I still retain this second structure and
#> still test for > 0, but not have any extra nesting?
How about
try:
if int(text) > 0:
return True
except ValueError:
pass
self.error_messag
fragment of my python-mode.el:
Please note that this comment doesn't say anything about automatically
inserting newlines, only about indenting (actually, dedenting) as
needed.
Anyway, this is probably becoming off-topic here.
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C
o other stuff
execfile(file, __main__.__dict__)
# do other stuff
seems to work, but it gives me a slightly uneasy feeling. Is this the
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moo
On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 07:33:41 -0700
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#> Slawomir Nowaczyk wrote:
#>
#> > Really, typing brace after function/if/etc should add newlines and
#> > indent code as required -- automatically. Actually, for me, it is even
#> > *less* typ
ode in any language. We
should focus on making it easier to write good code, not to make
writing bad code difficult.
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#> Slawomir Nowaczyk wrote:
#> >
#> > I must admit I do not get this "indicate intentions twice" argument,
#> > even though I heard it a number of times now... It&#
al is like optimisation. There are two rules:
Rule 1: Do not use it.
Rule 2 (for experts only): Do not use it (yet).
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On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 11:37:46 -0300
Gerhard Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
#> On 2006-08-06 06:41:27, Slawomir Nowaczyk wrote:
#>
#> > Since Python doesn't (supposedly) have variables, it couldn't have come
#> > from Python.
#>
#> The idea (of
No I did not. At least not intentionally.
#> > I just noticed that part of our disagreement comes from the fact that
#> > I am talking about C variables as they look at runtime, while you seem
#> > to also consider the source code to be relevant. Am I correct?
#>
#> You're correct in that I considered the source. But that's not really
#> important. I could leave the C source and go to the C runtime.
I think it would be easier to talk this way... After all, "int a=1"
and "int b=1" are *exactly* equivalent in C, while "a=1" and "b=1" are
not quite as equivalent in Python (consider if next line of program
contains stuff like input() )
#> However, then we don't really have anymore a C variable 'a', we
#> only have a memory location.
I tend to disagree -- I would say that the term "variable" has meaning
also at runtime.
#> That's probably one more inconsistency in the analogy.
Not really, that's exactly what makes the analogy work.
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with
dictionary literals. Hmmm.
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t; gives different result:
>>> [x for x in range(10) if x in a]
[0, 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 9]
#> Your proposal adds nothing.
Well, I am not sure how useful the proposal really is, but it seems to
add *something* if it would allow for things like:
[x for x in range(10) while x in a]
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id(), it
couldn't have come from C... So?
Obviously, if we use pythonic terminology of "binding", a statement
would be that id(a) "is an id of a binding", which doesn't make much
sense.
Antoon is right, id(a) is an identifier _of an object bound to a_.
Which translates into C++ as "an object pointed to by a", IMHO.
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#> Premature optimisation
#>
#> #>>> test('bcd')
#> True
#> #>>>
Oooops... You are right. Should be
format, index = 'abcd', -1
of course. Thanks.
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Bill Pursell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
#> Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
#> > There's no Python equivalent to "int*p=345; *p++;".
#>
#> Sure there is:
#>
#> os.kill(os.getpid(), signal.SIGSEGV)
LOL... that's a good
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:10:45 -0300
Gerhard Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
#> On 2006-08-04 07:36:25, Slawomir Nowaczyk wrote:
#>
#> > #> The address operator is probably for a C programmer the closest to
#> > #> what the id() function is to a Python program
at was made a dictionary or if one wanted
to compare characters directly. Writing (and profiling) left as an
exercise for a reader.
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sentation (i.e. what
you type, like "a") is in Python. Equivalent of id() is a dereference
operator.
Of course, there are probably other ways to look at this. But I still
do not see why people claim that there is a significant difference
between what variables are in Python and in C++
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#>I like the class idea, however I realize that the class object itself
#> has to be global.
But no more global than your original set_bit was...
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ble b to change with a simple
#> assignment from a C/C++ point of view.
That depends on your definition of "identity", of course.
#> You also don't expect the "identity" of a and b to be the same
#> after assigning one to the other.
Don't I?
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#> Actually having mailing lists send you mail is insane.
Just curious: what's insane about it?
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cii', when it needs to
#> decode the data in 'port' to Unicode. Some of the data in that
#> object makes no sense in the 'ascii' encoding, so it barfs.
In other words, this works for me:
>>> soup.feed( unicode(port,"iso-8859-1") )
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wrapped if they extend beyond
| `fill-column'. The soft newlines used for line wrapping will not
| show up when the text is yanked or saved to disk.
`-
I do not use it, personally, but it does exist.
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Emacs anyway. We no longer feel the need to
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rdly a substitute for PythonWin,
though: the learning curve is quite steep.
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are extremely curious to know if there's extra-terrestrial
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t;, I have in mind what
happens with files... and I to me semantics of []*3 is more like
symbolic linking, not copying. While I, personally, understand the
sentence in question "The result of S*n or n*S is the concatenation of
n copies of S" correctly, I *do* see how it might be misunder
but then, I am not sure as I do not understand what his
requirements actually are (they seem to make some sense for immutable
objects, but how should they generalise to mutable stuff I have no
idea).
PS. Thanks for explanation about Bank of America: I had no clue how it
works in realty, it just had
ions" mean? In particular, what should be the
results of each of the following three comparisons:
x, y, z = [1],[1],[1]
a, b = [x,y], [y,z]
c, d = [[1],[1]], [[1],[1]]
a == b
c == d
a[0].remove(1)
b[0].remove(1)
a == b
So, do I understand correctly that you would like first comparison
(a==b)
t (modifiable) objects can ever be
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