On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:42:59 -0300 Gerhard Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
#> On 2006-08-04 12:12:44, Antoon Pardon wrote: #> #> >>> You can hardly claim that what gets printed is the "id" of the variable c. #> >>> (Well, you can claim, but few C programmers would follow you.) #> >> #> >> That's possible. I wouldn't expect too many C programmers to have any #> >> notion of "id of a variable". I, for example, never thought about such #> >> thing before this thread. #> > #> > But even in Python we don't speak of "id of a variable". It is not the #> > variable that has an id. It is the object that is currently attached to #> > the variable that has an id. Yes we can use "id of a variable" as a #> > shortcut for the correct formulation as long as you keep in mind that it #> > is not the variable itself that has an id. #> #> This sounds a bit like saying "yes we can use the term 'variable' as a #> shortcut for the correct formulation (object associated to a name) as long #> as we keep in mind that it is not actually a variable" :) No it doesn't. Anyway, where did the idea that "id(a)" is an "id of a variable a" come from, anyway? Since Python doesn't (supposedly) have variables, it couldn't have come from Python. Since C doesn't have id(), it couldn't have come from C... So? Obviously, if we use pythonic terminology of "binding", a statement would be that id(a) "is an id of a binding", which doesn't make much sense. Antoon is right, id(a) is an identifier _of an object bound to a_. Which translates into C++ as "an object pointed to by a", IMHO. -- Best wishes, Slawomir Nowaczyk ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list