Hi John,
John Nagle animats.com> writes:
> All attempts to make the dialect defined by CPython significantly
> faster have failed. PyPy did not achieve much of a speed
> improvement over CPython, and is sometimes slower.
This is not true. While PyPy is indeed sometimes slower than CPython
==
Birmingham (UK) EuroPython PyPy Sprints 28-29 June/ 3-4 July 2009
==
The PyPy team is sprinting at EuroPython again. This year there are
`sprint days`_ before (28-29
lue what sort of solutions for
backward compatibility we will have.
Note also that the 1.0 release is sort of oldish already (but no new
release has been made). Most people just use SVN head, which is quite
stable.
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=
PyPy Berlin Sprint (17-22nd May 2008)
=
The next PyPy sprint will be in the crashed `c-base space station`_,
Berlin, Germany, Earth, Solar System. Thi
tation/API: http://codespeak.net/py/0.9.1/index.html
Work on the py lib has been partially funded by the European Union IST
programme and by http://merlinux.de within the PyPy project.
best, have fun and let us know what you think!
holger krekel, Maciej Fijalkowski,
Carl Friedrich Bolz, Gui
formation.
>>>> dir(dir)
['__call__', '__class__', '__delattr__', '__dict__', '__doc__',
'__getattribute__', '__hash__', '__init__', '__module__', '__name__',
'__new__', '__reduce__', '__reduce_ex__', '__repr__', '__self__',
'__setattr__', '__setstate__', '__str__', '__weakref__', 'func_closure',
'func_code', 'func_defaults', 'func_dict', 'func_doc', 'func_globals',
'func_name']
>>>> dir.func_code
>>>> dir.func_name
'dir'
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s hardly interesting.
> However it seems it still has a way to go to be fully operational!
> Still looks like the future to me.
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Hi Luis,
Luis M. Gonzalez wrote:
> Well, lets suppose that being faster than C is the real goal...
How about we call it a very long-term dream?
> Are you confident that it will be reached?
We have ideas how to get there, but it is really rather long-term. There
will be a lot of research needed
et the joke though...).
>>
>
> 'c' is also the speed of light. And since nothing can travel faster than
> light...
nice theory, but wrong: The PyPy home page uses a capital letter C:
http://codespeak.net/pypy/dist/pypy/doc/home.html
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=
PyPy Leysin Winter Sprint (12-19th January 2008)
=
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The next PyPy sprint will be in
Jim Vickroy wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I'm a first time user of py.tests.
>
> My setup is:
> * py.test v0.9.0
> * Python 2.5 (r25:51908, Sep 19 2006, 09:52:17) [MSC v.1310 32 bit
> (Intel)] on win32
> * Microsoft Windows XP Pro (service pack 2)
>
> The attached file (py-test-generator-trial.py) de
pecializing JIT compiler. Psyco in particular
would not benefit from type hints at all (even if you changed Psyco take
them into account) and would give you exactly the same speed as without
them.
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's bytecode, so the
example works just fine.
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ding extremely good big integer
arithmetic, so if you have extreme needs, you shouldn't use the builtin
longs.
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Duncan Booth wrote:
> Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I am hugely encouraged by this
>>
>> C:\Python\devel\pypy-1.0.0>\python24\python \python\lib\test
> \pystone.py
>> Pystone(1.1) time for 5 passes = 1.49586
>> This machine benchmarks at 33425.6 pystones/second
>>
>> C:\Python\d
ou using a custom
class that looks mostly like an int and generate assembly optimized for
this situation.
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y on the module once again?
> And are there any chances/intends for PyPy to be included into Python
> core?
PyPy contains a full Python interpreter (which can include a JIT
compiler) and thus replaces the "Python core". PyPy can never really be
integrated into CPyth
Hi Christian!
Christian Tismer wrote:
> On 28.03.2007, at 10:38, Carl Friedrich Bolz wrote:
>
>> Brain error on our side: the gc_pypy.dll is the dll of the Boehm
>> garbage
>> collector, which you would need to compile yourself (which makes
>> precompiled bi
Hi Luis!
Luis M. González wrote:
> Carl Friedrich Bolz wrote:
>> ==
>> PyPy 1.0: JIT compilers for free and more
>> ==
[snip]
>
>
> Congratulations!
Thanks :-)
>
ntributions - and we hope you appreciate PyPy 1.0 as an
interesting basis for greater things to come, as much as we do
ourselves!
have fun,
the PyPy release team,
Samuele Pedroni, Armin Rigo, Holger Krekel, Michael Hudson,
Carl Friedrich Bolz, Antonio Cuni, Anders Chrigstroem, Guido
e fun,
the PyPy team,
Samuele Pedroni, Carl Friedrich Bolz, Armin Rigo, Michael Hudson,
Maciej Fijalkowski, Anders Chrigstroem, Holger Krekel,
Guido Wesdorp
and many others:
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What is
Ramon Diaz-Uriarte wrote:
>> In England the corresponding expression is "Counting Angels on a
>> Pinhead"
>> http://dannyayers.com/2001/misc/angels.htm
>>
>
> Thanks, that is neat. I find the discussion on the sex of the angels,
> well, sexier. But we are probably a few hundred years late to
C is slow because if you use CINT, a C
interpreter ( http://root.cern.ch/root/Cint.html ) to execute it, it is
slow.
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=
PyPy Leysin Winter Sports Sprint (8-14th January 2007)
=
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The next PyPy sprint will
any way by this list!
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Are there any IDEs that will actually work with
> an external instance of Emacs (either by firing it up or by using a remote
> connection program like gnuclient)?
I have never actually used it, but this project seems to integrate Vi
and other external editors:
http://pida.berlios.de/
Cheers
the address, which would keep the object alive.
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available to Python.
> Take a look at the root manual for examples, it also contains a section
> describing the use of PyRoot.
I can definitively second that. ROOT is a bit hard to learn but very,
very powerful and PyRoot is really a pleasure to work with.
Cheers,
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Paul Rubin wrote:
> http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~mpj/timbot/index.html
How said it's another one? Maybe our timbot grew a body.
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not). The whole
implementation took roughly 100 lines of code, of which 65 are in a
separate file not touching anything else, the rest being minimally
invasive changes. We also implemented a similar optimization for string
slicing (only if the slice has a substantial length and a step of 1).
Cheers
Carl Friedrich Bolz wrote:
> Robin Becker wrote:
>> Larry Hastings wrote:
>> __
>>> THE PATCH
>>>
>>> The core concept: adding two strings together no longer returns a pure
>>> "string" object. Instead, it returns a "string c
Robin Becker wrote:
> Larry Hastings wrote:
> __
>> THE PATCH
>>
>> The core concept: adding two strings together no longer returns a pure
>> "string" object. Instead, it returns a "string concatenation" object
>> which holds references to the two strings but does not actually
>> concatenate
>
Robin Becker wrote:
> Larry Hastings wrote:
> __
>> THE PATCH
>>
>> The core concept: adding two strings together no longer returns a pure
>> "string" object. Instead, it returns a "string concatenation" object
>> which holds references to the two strings but does not actually
>> concatenate
>
Robin Becker wrote:
> Larry Hastings wrote:
> __
>> THE PATCH
>>
>> The core concept: adding two strings together no longer returns a pure
>> "string" object. Instead, it returns a "string concatenation" object
>> which holds references to the two strings but does not actually
>> concatenate
>
from users and discuss interesting new
features.
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listinfo/pypy-sprint
.. _`people`:
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arted into the world of PyPy see
here:
http://codespeak.net/pypy/dist/pypy/doc/getting-started.html
Sorry for the fuss and cheers,
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ing it gives you a number of
very interesting features: like having the resulting program been
enhanced to not use the C stack (for deeply recursive code), using
different garbage collection strategies...
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Edward Elliott wrote:
> Peter Otten wrote:
[snip]
>
> Now that is absolutely lovely. Looks like it's time to join the ranks of
> Perl and C with an Obfuscated Python Contest. ;)
>
yes, please! and you get special points for programs that seem to do one
thing but do something totally entirely
apsed = 0
self.accel = -9.8
velocity = property(lambda self: self.accel * self.elapsed)
pos = property(lambda self: self.startpos + self.accel *
(self.elapsed ** 2) / 2)
rock = FallingRock(100)
print rock.accel, rock.velocity, rock.pos
# -9.8, 0, 100
rock.elapsed = 1
print rock.accel, rock.velocity, rock.pos
# -9.8, -9.8, 95.1
rock.elapsed = 8
print rock.accel, rock.velocity, rock.pos
# -9.8, -78.4, -213.6
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>>> t.celsius = -32
>>> t.fahrenheit
-25.601
>>> t = Temperature(100)
>>> t.fahrenheit
212.0
no metaclass hacking necessary. Works also if you want to allow setting
the property.
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Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> Martin P. Hellwig a écrit :
>>I created a class which creates a relative unique id string, now my
>>program just works fine and as expected but somehow I get the feeling
>>that I misused the __repr__ since I guess people expect to 'execute' a
>>function in an instanc
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> Martin P. Hellwig a écrit :
>>I created a class which creates a relative unique id string, now my
>>program just works fine and as expected but somehow I get the feeling
>>that I misused the __repr__ since I guess people expect to 'execute' a
>>function in an instanc
ou don't know what you want to use
>>it for, learning it might be a waste of time, as you won't
>>know what to look for if you don't have a specific project in
>>mind.
>
> Geeze, when I think of all the things I've "wasted my time"
> l
xact plans are) also look into the type
inference part of PyPy:
http://codespeak.net/pypy/dist/pypy/doc/translation.html#the-annotation-pass
Feel free to also contact the PyPy mailing list (pypy-dev@codespeak.net)
if you have PyPy-specific questions.
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Tokyo PyPy Sprint: 23rd - 29th April 2006
The next PyPy sprint is scheduled to take place 23rd- 29th April 2006
(Sunday-Saturday) in Akihabara, Tokyo, Japan. We will together with
FSIJ (Free Software Initiative of Japan) aim to promote
ck (most recent call last):
> File "", line 1, in ?
> NameError: name 'x' is not defined
>
you can use the standard-library code module for that: instead of
magic_breakpoint() just call code.interact(local=locals()). The
magic_resume() would be a regular Ctrl-D (or
Robert Boyd wrote:
> On 2/22/06, Magnus Lycka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>jkn wrote:
>>
>>>Hi all
>>
>>Hi!
>>
>>
>>>I'm considering having a go at replacing the wooden door step to
>>>our back door. The original is loose and rotting.
>>
>>Aha, like old perl scripts.
>>
>>
>>>I'm sure some o
Paul Rubin wrote:
> "Kay Schluehr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>I talked to Richard Emslie recently and he told me that the PyPy team
>>works on a mechanism to create CPython-extension modules written in
>>RPython i.e. a statically translateable subset of Python. So even
>>without dynamic code
y application). Should
be fairly easy to turn into a Python extension module to monitor X activity.
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def test_fail():
a = 1
b = 2
assert a == b
would result in the following failure:
def test_fail():
a = 1
b = 2
E assert a == b
> assert 1 == 2
This has the drawback that your expressions need to be side-effect free
(because they will be
gt;
There is also the wonderful C interpreter cint:
http://root.cern.ch/root/Cint.html
so obviously C must be an interpreted language :-)
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Torsten Bronger wrote:
> Well, I think that it's fair to say that there are by principle deep
> run time differences between CPython and, say, a typical
> C++-compiled program. Your definition would not reproduce that. I
> think it's also fair to say that these differences should be known
> if so
Hi!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Problem:
>
> You have a list of unknown length, such as this: list =
> [X,X,X,O,O,O,O]. You want to extract all and only the X's. You know
> the X's are all up front and you know that the item after the last X is
> an O, or that the list ends with an X. There are
huge, O(N) might be OK, and is, of course, way simpler
> to code!-)
>
The code would look something like this:
low = 0
high = len(L)
while low < high:
mid = (low + high) // 2
if L[mid] == 0:
high = mid
else:
low = mid + 1
list_of_X = L[:low]
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Brian Blais wrote:
> I was wondering if there is a way to, within a script, jump into the
> interpreter.
> What I mean is something like the "keyboard" command in Matlab, where the
> script
> pauses and you get an interpreter prompt, where you can look at variables,
> change
> their values, etc.
ncil/
At least until a while ago it was using Tkinter, the website talks about
a port to GTK, though.
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s as well, like
mark-and-sweep, a copying collector or some sort of sophisticated
generational collector.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Carl Friedrich Bolz wrote:
>
>>I cannot really say much about how easy it would be to just write a
>>preprocessor. However, I think what you are trying to do could be done
>>reasonably easy with the PyPy project:
>>
>>http:
new syntax (especially if the new constructs can be mapped to standard
python). Feel free to ask question on the pypy developer mailing list:
http://codespeak.net/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
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Scott David Daniels wrote:
> bblais wrote:
>
>>How do experienced python programmers usually do it? Is there a
>>"usually" about it, or is it up to personal taste? Are there any
>>convenient ways of doing these things?
>
> There are a lot of us who use a test-first process:
> Write a unit t
quot;I'd even look into PyPy sprint options at Maastricht, so you'd get
> extra value for your money"
We are always looking for places to do sprints, so if you know any venue
where holding such an event is possible we would be glad if you
contacted us. Organizing a sprint in your home town is always a
possibility to have free accomodation at a sprint :-).
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to do that since quite some time
now (it is even part an issue in our tracker) but we currently don't
have the resources to actually do so. Contributions are of course
welcome ;-)
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st you
can use a script called utestconvert.py which converts the unittest
syntax over to py.test syntax. It can be found in the tool directory of
the py-lib.
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he internal representation is surprising). Basically it
gives the implementor of a Python interpreter the freedom to choose the
internal representation that he deems to be the most fitting. If
implementation details leaked outside that wouldn't be possible anymore.
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p://stackless.com/spcpaper.htm), but the
> index itself always yields a 502 gateway error.
I see the same problem. I asked Christian Tismer (author of stackless)
to check whether the server has a problem.
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():
... w = Target()
... w = None
... print ref()
...
>>> g()
Segmentation fault
There are dozends of segfaults in Python indeed.
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its input (which is the
interpreter), thus giving you a new specializer which can specialize
only the interpreter for a later given user program -- a very
specialized specializer indeed. This can then be called a just-in-time
compiler. (Note that this is not quite how JIT of PyPy will look like
e that translated to C and then use this in your pure python
code. Actually, one of our current rather wild ideas (which might not be
followed) is to be able to even use RPython to write extension modules
for CPython.
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Hi!
Luis M. González wrote:
> Thanks Carl for your explanation!
> I just have one doubt regarding the way Pypy is supposed to work when
> its finished:
>
> We know that for translating the rpython interpreter to C, the pypy
> team developed a tool that relies heavily on static type inference.
>
o
the necessary staticness conditions.
This fact could be used nicely: If someone writes, say, a Ruby or Perl
interpreter in RPython he will get all the benefits of PyPy for free:
different target platforms, different garbage collectors, stacklessness,
maybe a JIT (which is still unclear at the moment).
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as part of the translation process. But
this is at the moment still quite unclear, in heavy flux and nowhere
near finished yet.
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Palma de Mallorca PyPy Sprint II: 23rd - 29th January 2006
The next PyPy sprint is scheduled to be in January 2006 in Palma De
Mallorca, Balearic Isles, Spain. We'll give newcomer-friendly
introductions. Its focus will mainly be on the
in an implementation using a
different GC :-)
Although on the other hand a short poll revealed that the reference
manual was not considered to be the most useful source among the PyPy
developpers :-)
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ing like:
dcop konqueror- konqueror-mainwindow#1 openURL "http://google.net";
this command can easily be executed with os.system.
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to have an interpreter that supports very deeply
recursive algorithms, if that is needed.
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Hi!
Kinsley Turner wrote:
[snip]
>
> def teaDecipher(input,key):
> y = input[0]
> z = input[1]
> n = 32
> sum = 0xC6EF3720
> delta=0x9E3779B9
>
> while (n > 0):
> n -= 1
> z -= (y << 4 ^ y >> 5) + y ^ sum + key[sum>>11 & 3];
> sum -= delta;
>
er+arrow%22&rnum=2&hl=en#736fac8c33e84d0c
> , it seems that Michael Spalinski suggests of
> reinstalling Python.
>
> Any easier way to achieve this feature?
>
> Thanks.
You are probably missing the readline module. What operating
system/python version are you using?
Cheers
>> import time
>>> def f():
... time.sleep(1)
...
>>> lsprof.profile(f).pprint()
CallCountRecursiveTotal(ms) Inline(ms) module:lineno(function)
10999.0380999.0380 <>:1(f)
(profiling time.sleep directly does not work, but I gue
something is exceptional (not necessarily wrong) is, well,
an exception.
Anyway, one way to solve this is the following:
def foo(input_val):
try:
iterator = iter(input_val)
except TypeError:
# do non-iterable stuff
else:
for val in iterator:
Gothenburg PyPy Sprint II: 7th - 11th December 2005
==
(NOTE: internal EU-only sprint starts on the 5th!)
The next PyPy sprint is scheduled to be in December 2005 in Gothenborg,
Sweden. Its main focus is heading towards phase 2, which means JIT
se that intentionally mixes names and
strings that are used for something in the application there are also
quite often legitimate use cases for this sort of behaviour. Duck typing
is basically based on this.
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for loop:
for x in range(2000):
if x % 100 == 0:
do_something()
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http://codespeak.net/pypy/dist/pypy/doc/contact.html
have fun,
the pypy team, (Armin Rigo, Samuele Pedroni,
Holger Krekel, Christian Tismer,
Carl Friedrich Bolz, Michael Hudson,
and many others:
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PyPy development an
u could use the csv module:
http://python.org/doc/2.4.2/lib/module-csv.html
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0], [0, 1]]
if n % 2 == 0:
r = expo(m, n//2)
return mul(r, r)
else:
return mul(m, expo(m, n - 1))
def fib(n):
return expo([[1, 1], [1, 0]], n)[0][0]
With this you can calculate really big fibonacci numbers without
increasing the recursion depth, even though the exp
n looks indeed quite impressive. If you are interested in
discussing static translation of subsets of Python a bit or are even
interested in getting to know PyPy a bit better feel free to contact us
(http://codespeak.net/pypy/dist/pypy/doc/contact.html).
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Hi Paul!
Paul Boddie wrote:
> Carl Friedrich Bolz wrote:
>>>. there is no reason why the pypy project can't have a .NET architecture
>>>instead of the java-like arrangement I assume it has now
>>Sorry, I can't really follow you here. In what way does PyPy h
l target platforms
> to develope a highly optimized
> ( llvm -> native code)-compiler
> -- assuming also, that there is available
> a highly optimized ( c++ -> llvm bytecode )-compiler .
there is. look at the LLVM page for details: www.llvm.org
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e:
>
> raise 'option has to be either 1 or 2'
>
[snip]
One further note: string exceptions are being phased out. It is
discouraged to use them. See
http://docs.python.org/lib/module-exceptions.html
http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0290.html
for details.
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time option although it is not really clear yet how
that will work in detail :-). Right now you can translate with a GIL or
with no thread-support at all.
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Michael Hudson wrote:
[snip
>>Obviously therefore anyone seeking to translate their existing code from
>>python to an executable directly using pypy would not be doing it for
>>performance reasons (again, something I'm aware of watching the
>>updates come out and having run svn checkouts at previo
,
the pypy team, of which here is a partial snapshot
of mainly involved persons:
Armin Rigo, Samuele Pedroni,
Holger Krekel, Christian Tismer,
Carl Friedrich Bolz, Michael Hudson,
Eric van Riet Paap, Richard Emslie,
Anders Chrigstroem, Anders Lehmann,
Ludovic Aubry
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[snip Python port announcement]
> No reptiles were harmed in the making of these crafts.
+1 QOTW
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John Machin wrote:
>>Of course, if you *don't* use 'self', you should expect an angly mob
>>with pitchforks and torches outside your castle.
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> Wouldn't an angly mob be carrying fishing rods?
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Well, I thought they would be carrying pitchfolks and tolches.
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ionel wrote:
> so what could this PyPy do in the future ? .. concretely ...
> hope this is not a stupid question
>
Maybe the description from the homepage says it best:
The PyPy project aims at producing a flexible and fast Python
implementation. The guiding idea is to translate a Python-level
Kay Schluehr wrote:
>>Speed isn't even the biggest problem when running PyPy on itself.
>>PyPy still 'fakes' some objects, e.g. borrows them from the underlying
>>Python.
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> Does it mean You create an RPython object that runs on top of CPython,
> but is just an RPython facade wrapped around a
Rocco Moretti wrote:
> Alex Stapleton wrote:
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>>The question still remains, can it run it's self? ;)
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This allready worked in the past, though it doesn't at the moment.
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> I think they try, every once in a while, to self host. The only problem
> at this stage of the game is the ~2000x s
Hi!
Ville Vainio wrote:
>>"Torsten" == Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> Torsten> What's supposed to be compiled? Only PyPy itself or also
> Torsten> the programs it's "interpreting"?
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> PyPy is written in python, if it can be compiled then the programs can
> be as
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