Aw: Re: Best way to check if there is internet?

> Or the internet acquires a new protocol that's designed > for very-long-latency connections. That's being worked on already https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_Deep_Space_Network Karsten -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Best way to check if there is internet?

On Tue, 8 Feb 2022 at 12:20, Ethan Furman wrote: > > On 2/7/22 4:27 PM, Greg Ewing wrote: > > On 8/02/22 8:51 am, Chris Angelico wrote: > > >> Some day, we'll have people on Mars. They won't have TCP connections - > >> at least, not unless servers start supporting connection timeouts > >> meas

Re: Best way to check if there is internet?

On 2/7/22 12:51, Chris Angelico wrote: > Some day, we'll have people on Mars. They won't have TCP connections - > at least, not unless servers start supporting connection timeouts > measured in minutes or hours - but it wouldn't surprise me if some > sort of caching proxy system is deployed. > > O

Re: Best way to check if there is internet?

On 2/7/22 4:27 PM, Greg Ewing wrote: > On 8/02/22 8:51 am, Chris Angelico wrote: >> Some day, we'll have people on Mars. They won't have TCP connections - >> at least, not unless servers start supporting connection timeouts >> measured in minutes or hours - but it wouldn't surprise me if some >>

Re: Best way to check if there is internet?

On 8/02/22 8:51 am, Chris Angelico wrote: Some day, we'll have people on Mars. They won't have TCP connections - at least, not unless servers start supporting connection timeouts measured in minutes or hours - but it wouldn't surprise me if some sort of caching proxy system is deployed. Or the

Re: Logging user activity

On 06Feb2022 23:30, blessy carol wrote: >I have this task where I have to create log files to record user >activity whenever they make an entry or view something. Also, I have to >create Database log file whenever someone accessed or manipulated the >data in the database. The code is written py

Re: Best way to check if there is internet?

On Tue, 8 Feb 2022 at 09:31, <2qdxy4rzwzuui...@potatochowder.com> wrote: > > On 2022-02-08 at 06:51:20 +1100, > Chris Angelico wrote: > > > Either way, though: would a person on Mars "have the internet"? Yes, > > but not the internet as we know it... > > By current definition, they *can't* have th

Re: Best way to check if there is internet?

On 2022-02-08 at 06:51:20 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > Either way, though: would a person on Mars "have the internet"? Yes, > but not the internet as we know it... By current definition, they *can't* have the internet as we know it. Wikipedia,¹ Mirrian-Webster,² and TechTerms.com³ (the first

Re: Logging user activity

On 2022-02-06 23:30:41 -0800, blessy carol wrote: > I have this task where I have to create log files to record user > activity whenever they make an entry or view something. Also, I have > to create Database log file whenever someone accessed or manipulated > the data in the database. The code is

Re: Best way to check if there is internet?

On Tue, 8 Feb 2022 at 08:30, Cameron Simpson wrote: > > On 08Feb2022 06:51, Chris Angelico wrote: > >Some day, we'll have people on Mars. They won't have TCP connections - > >at least, not unless servers start supporting connection timeouts > >measured in minutes or hours - but it wouldn't surpri

Re: Best way to check if there is internet?

On 08Feb2022 06:51, Chris Angelico wrote: >Some day, we'll have people on Mars. They won't have TCP connections - >at least, not unless servers start supporting connection timeouts >measured in minutes or hours - but it wouldn't surprise me if some >sort of caching proxy system is deployed. The T

Re: Best way to check if there is internet?

On 07Feb2022 11:40, Grant Edwards wrote: >Ah, c'mon... Every geek worth his salt knows a few real world IP >addresses without relying on DNS. If you want to "ping Google", it's > $ ping 8.8.8.8 > $ ping 8.8.4.4 And Cloudflare is 1.1.1.1. Speaking as someone who's seen his upstream provider have

Re: Best way to check if there is internet?

On 2022-02-07, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Mon, 07 Feb 2022 11:40:24 -0800 (PST), Grant Edwards > declaimed the following: > >>On 2022-02-07, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: >> >>> Also, for a machine freshly booted, with no cache, even pinging >>> Google first requires making contact with a DNS serve

Re: Best way to check if there is internet?

On Mon, 07 Feb 2022 11:40:24 -0800 (PST), Grant Edwards declaimed the following: >On 2022-02-07, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > >> Also, for a machine freshly booted, with no cache, even pinging >> Google first requires making contact with a DNS server to ask for >> Google's IP address. With no netw

Re: Best way to check if there is internet?

On Tue, 8 Feb 2022 at 06:41, Grant Edwards wrote: > But, as has been pointed out previously "if there is internet" is too > vague a question to have an answer. > > If all you have is proxied access to outside HTTPS servers, then I > would consider the answer to be "no", but most people would say "

Re: Openning Python program

On Tue, 8 Feb 2022 at 06:51, Cecil Westerhof via Python-list wrote: > > Chris Angelico writes: > > >> > How difficult would it be to get people to read those lines, though? > >> > >> That does remind me about a system administrator who wanted to make a > >> point. He changed something on the serv

Re: Openning Python program

Chris Angelico writes: >> > How difficult would it be to get people to read those lines, though? >> >> That does remind me about a system administrator who wanted to make a >> point. He changed something on the server so all the Windows computers >> started up and gave a message: >> If yo

Re: Best way to check if there is internet?

On 2022-02-07, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > Also, for a machine freshly booted, with no cache, even pinging > Google first requires making contact with a DNS server to ask for > Google's IP address. With no network, the DNS look-up will fail > before ping even tries to hit Google. Ah, c'mon... Eve

Correct way to setup a package with both compiled C code and Python code?

Hi all, we've developed a Python pacakge which consists of both a compiled extension module and some helper functions in Python. Is there a tutorial on how to package such an extension? Most resources I found for distutils describe either building an extension or pure python modules. Current

Re: Openning Python program

On Tue, 8 Feb 2022 at 04:30, Cecil Westerhof via Python-list wrote: > > Chris Angelico writes: > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2022 at 02:53, Grant Edwards > > wrote: > >> > >> On 2022-02-06, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > >> > On Sun, 6 Feb 2022 13:44:07 +0530, "createkmontalb...@gmail.com" > >> > declaimed

Re: Best way to check if there is internet?

On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 13:33:54 +0400, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer declaimed the following: >Popular browsers tell: No internet connection detected. A function that >goes in the same sense. Unless they too are pinging Google.com to check ... > Ah, but WHEN do those browsers report that? When at

Logging user activity

Hi, I have this task where I have to create log files to record user activity whenever they make an entry or view something. Also, I have to create Database log file whenever someone accessed or manipulated the data in the database. The code is written python and used django framework. I've con

Re: Openning Python program

Chris Angelico writes: > On Tue, 8 Feb 2022 at 02:53, Grant Edwards wrote: >> >> On 2022-02-06, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: >> > On Sun, 6 Feb 2022 13:44:07 +0530, "createkmontalb...@gmail.com" >> > declaimed the following: >> > >> >> I cannot open python after downloading it keeps going to >>

Re: Openning Python program

On 2022-02-07, Barry wrote: >> On 7 Feb 2022, at 15:55, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2022-02-06, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: >>> On Sun, 6 Feb 2022 13:44:07 +0530, "createkmontalb...@gmail.com" >>> declaimed the following: >>> I cannot open python after downloading it keeps going to modify/u

Re: Openning Python program

On 2022-02-07, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, 8 Feb 2022 at 02:53, Grant Edwards wrote: >> >>On 2022-02-06, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: >>> On Sun, 6 Feb 2022 13:44:07 +0530, "createkmontalb...@gmail.com" >>> declaimed the following: >>> I cannot open python after downloading it keeps going

Re: Openning Python program

> On 7 Feb 2022, at 15:55, Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2022-02-06, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: >> On Sun, 6 Feb 2022 13:44:07 +0530, "createkmontalb...@gmail.com" >> declaimed the following: >> >>> I cannot open python after downloading it keeps going to modify/uninstall >>> ?? please help >

Re: Openning Python program

On Tue, 8 Feb 2022 at 02:53, Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2022-02-06, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > > On Sun, 6 Feb 2022 13:44:07 +0530, "createkmontalb...@gmail.com" > > declaimed the following: > > > >> I cannot open python after downloading it keeps going to modify/uninstall > >> ?? please hel

Re: Openning Python program

On 2022-02-06, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Sun, 6 Feb 2022 13:44:07 +0530, "createkmontalb...@gmail.com" > declaimed the following: > >> I cannot open python after downloading it keeps going to modify/uninstall >> ?? please help > > Stop clicking on the INSTALLER. What you downloaded is just

Re: Best way to check if there is internet?

On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 at 23:48, Lars Liedtke wrote: > > Each Browser is doing it differently and even Windows or > Linux-Desktopmanagers (NetworkManager). > > I have had cases, where one tool told me I had Internet and another one > I hadn't. Not at all surprised :) Though that situation would proba

Re: Best way to check if there is internet?

P.S.: for ping a startingpoint can be icmplib, for dns dnspython and for http requests. But consider as well if you want to check for IPv4 and/or IPv6 Connectivity. Am 07.02.22 um 13:47 schrieb Lars Liedtke: Each Browser is doing it differently and even Windows or Linux-Desktopmanagers (Networ

Re: Best way to check if there is internet?

Each Browser is doing it differently and even Windows or Linux-Desktopmanagers (NetworkManager). I have had cases, where one tool told me I had Internet and another one I hadn't. So What Chris Angelico wrote is propably the best way, ping e.g. Google, do a DNS lookup and try http for Status

Re: Best way to check if there is internet?

Popular browsers tell: No internet connection detected. A function that goes in the same sense. Unless they too are pinging Google.com to check ... Kind Regards, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer about | blog github

Re: Best way to check if there is internet?

On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 at 20:18, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > > Greetings, > > Using the standard library or 3rd party libraries, what's the > best way to check if there is internet? Checking if google.com > is reachable is good but I wonder if there is a more native, > protocol-oriented > way of

Best way to check if there is internet?

Greetings, Using the standard library or 3rd party libraries, what's the best way to check if there is internet? Checking if google.com is reachable is good but I wonder if there is a more native, protocol-oriented way of knowing? Even this URL recommends checking if a domain is up as a way to ch