Hello,
I have 64 bit python on my windows 10 machine. Install contains 32 bit python
libs in path and I would like to remove them.
I do
imprt sys
sys.path.remove("C:\\Users\\me\\AppData\\Local\\Programs\\Python\\Python36-32")
It works for current python instance, but paths appears in new one.
On Thursday, 7 September 2017 07:14:57 UTC+1, Andrej Viktorovich wrote:
> Sometimes I find code with strange print function usage. String is passed
> without brackets.
>
> #!/usr/bin/python
> list = ['physics', 'chemistry', 1997, 2000];
> print "Value available at index 2 : "
> print list[2]
> l
On 7 Sep 2017, at 8:14, Andrej Viktorovich wrote:
If I use command print "aaa" in console I get error. So, why this is
allowed in sample?
You're probably using Python 2 for the listed script and Python 3 when
you try in the console.
= jem
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Hello,
Sometimes I find code with strange print function usage. String is passed
without brackets.
#!/usr/bin/python
list = ['physics', 'chemistry', 1997, 2000];
print "Value available at index 2 : "
print list[2]
list[2] = 2001;
print "New value available at index 2 : "
print list[2]
If I use
> On Sep 6, 2017, at 9:14 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
>
> I can run this (your code) without an error here (Python 3.6.0),
> from a file named "Scraper1.py":
I'll check tomorrow. I recently switched from 3.5.x to 3.6.1 in the PyCharm
IDE. It's probably FUBAR in some obscure way.
Thanks,
Chris R.
On 9/6/2017 7:41 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
The following code runs here:
Your code runs but that's not how I have mine code set up. Here's the
revised code:
class Requestor(object):
def __init__(self, user_id, user_name ):
self._page_start = -1
@property
def page_start(sel
Just released https://github.com/ofek/hatch#060
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Greetings,
My web scraper program has a top-level class for managing the other
classes. I went to set up a property for the top-level class that
changes the corresponding property in a different class.
class Scraper(object):
def __init__(self, user_id, user_name):
self.requestor
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Steve D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 03:56 am, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 3:53 AM, Rhodri James wrote:
>>> On 06/09/17 18:16, Stefan Ram wrote:
> [...]
Whenever someone yells at me, »HTML is not a programming language!«,
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 03:56 am, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 3:53 AM, Rhodri James wrote:
>> On 06/09/17 18:16, Stefan Ram wrote:
[...]
>>>Whenever someone yells at me, »HTML is not a programming language!«,
>>>I show them the interactive tic-tac-toe by Flo Kreidler, writte
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 01:31 am, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:37 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>>
>> Which reminds me of this puzzle I saw a couple of days ago:
>>
>>1 + 4 = 5
>>2 + 5 = 12
>>3 + 6 = 21
>>8 + 11 = ?
>>
>> A mathematician immediately comes up with a "wrong" a
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 12:11 am, Antoon Pardon wrote:
[...]
> No it would not translate to the above diagram. It would translate to my
> diagram. All variables in pascal refer to some object (in memory), they don't
> refer to other variables. If you have a pointer variable, you have a variable
> that
On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 11:08 pm, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 5:59:17 PM UTC+5:30, nopsidy wrote:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= [...]
>> Thank you,
>> -Alex Goretoy
>> [...]
Please don't quote nopsidy's spam.
He is spamming the list with multiple links to the same v
On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 11:02 pm, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Chris Angelico writes:
>>The 'is' operator tests if two things are the same thing.
>
> »Roughly speaking, to say of two things that they are
> identical is nonsense, and to say of one thing that it
> is identical with itself is t
On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 10:11 pm, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 5:08:20 PM UTC+5:30, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 07:13 pm, Rustom Mody wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Can you explain what "id" and "is" without talking of memory?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> id() returns an abstract
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On 9/6/2017 12:30 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 2:17 AM, MRAB wrote:
On 2017-09-06 14:00, Chris Angelico wrote:
I'm not 100% sure, but I think that having two different versions of
CPython X.Y isn't supported on Windows.
I have both 64-bit and 32-bit Python 3.6 installed
Rustom Mody writes:
> I posted it because I genuinely thought I had missed some obvious way
> of splitting a set into an (arbitrary) element and a rest without
> jumping through hoops. Evidently not
Curious, because I posted because I thought you had. Anyway, for speed
you probably just want
On 06.09.2017 10:55, Thomas Jollans wrote:
On 2017-09-06 10:14, Friedrich Rentsch wrote:
Hi, I am setting up Python 2.7 after an upgrade to Ubuntu 16.04, a
thorough one, leaving no survivors. Everything is fine, IDLE opens,
ready to go. Alas, execfile and import commands don't do my bidding, b
Gregory Ewing writes:
> Seems to me you're making life difficult for yourself (and
> very inefficient) by insisting on doing the whole computation
> with sets. If you want a set as a result, it's easy enough
> to construct one from the list at the end.
Yes, but my intent was to show that the pat
On 05/09/17 17:14, Andrej Viktorovich wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I suppose I can run python module by passing module as param for executable:
>
> python.exe myscr.py
>
> But how to run script when I'm inside of console and have python prompt:
>
The runpy module can help you do this.
https://docs.python.o
On 05/09/2017 00:02, Irmen de Jong wrote:
https://github.com/irmen/bouldercaves
> There's just two things missing I think:
> - high score table
> - being able to play multiple sounds simultaneously, as the amoeba and
> magic wall sounds are lacking at the moment.
In version 1.2 sound mixing is i
On Saturday, June 1, 2013 at 9:14:36 PM UTC+5:30, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote:
> /home/nikos/public_html/cgi-bin/metrites.py in ()
> 217 template = htmldata + counter
> 218 elif page.endswith('.py'):
> => 219 htmldata = subprocess.check_output(
> '/home/n
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 3:53 AM, Rhodri James wrote:
> On 06/09/17 18:16, Stefan Ram wrote:
>>
>> Dennis Lee Bieber writes:
>>>
>>> Not to mention there are four rotations of the board, along with
>>> reflections... One could, internally, keep track of the rotation needed
>>> to
>>> normal
On 06/09/17 18:16, Stefan Ram wrote:
Dennis Lee Bieber writes:
Not to mention there are four rotations of the board, along with
reflections... One could, internally, keep track of the rotation needed to
normalize the first moves (eg: if a corner was the first move, rotate the
board as n
On 06/09/17 16:31, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:37 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> Which reminds me of this puzzle I saw a couple of days ago:
>>
>>1 + 4 = 5
>>2 + 5 = 12
>>3 + 6 = 21
>>8 + 11 = ?
>>
>> A mathematician immediately comes up with a "wrong" answer.
> There
On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 1:12:22 PM UTC+1, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 5:08:20 PM UTC+5:30, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
> > On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 07:13 pm, Rustom Mody wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Can you explain what "id" and "is" without talking of memory?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Ian Kelly writes:
>>Usually I've seen Tic Tac Toe implemented using the Minimax algorithm
>>since the decision tree for Tic Tac Toe is quite shallow.
>
> This thread made me want to write a tic-tac-toe game.
>
> I am naïve in this field. I d
On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 2:42:06 PM UTC+1, Andrej Viktorovich wrote:
> Found that pythons have different paths. It might be related?
Definitely :)
>
> 64 bit
>
> C:\Users\me\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python36-32
> C:\Users\me\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python36-32\DLLs
> C:\Use
On 06-09-17 15:14, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Steve D'Aprano writes:
>> or any of the other things we can do in a language with references-as-values,
>> like C or Pascal.
>
> I have always taken the stance that one has to use the words
> as the language specification of the language one talks
> ab
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 2:17 AM, MRAB wrote:
> On 2017-09-06 14:00, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Andrej Viktorovich
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have 32Bit and 64Bit installations on my Windows 10 machine. I do
>>> import importlib in both of them.
>>>
>>> 32b
On 2017-09-06 14:00, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Andrej Viktorovich
wrote:
Hello,
I have 32Bit and 64Bit installations on my Windows 10 machine. I do import
importlib in both of them.
32bit works fine while 64bit prints error:
import importlib
Traceback (most re
Is there any project in Python about tool interface?
In Java, it gets JVMTI which allows users easily build tools upon it. For
example, for an APM framework, it allows you use Java agent to dynamically
trace functions in your application. And you don't have to modify or restart
your application
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Andrej Viktorovich
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have 32Bit and 64Bit installations on my Windows 10 machine. I do import
> importlib in both of them.
>
> 32bit works fine while 64bit prints error:
>
import importlib
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "",
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:37 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>
> Which reminds me of this puzzle I saw a couple of days ago:
>
>1 + 4 = 5
>2 + 5 = 12
>3 + 6 = 21
>8 + 11 = ?
>
> A mathematician immediately comes up with a "wrong" answer.
There are no "wrong" answers with these kinds of p
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Hi folks,
I'm trying to install a binary package (tensorflow) which contains
some binary C extensions. Now my system glibc is 2.15 but the binaries
in the C extensions were created (apparently) with glibc 2.17. So I
thought no problemo I installed glibc 2.17 to a custom location, built
python2.7 f
Op 06-09-17 om 14:58 schreef Steve D'Aprano:
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 05:12 pm, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
> [...]
>>> I'm not saying that we should never use this model. Its a good model. But we
>>> should be clear that it is a model of the implementation, and it describes
>>> entities which are not part
On 06/09/17 14:02, Stefan Ram wrote:
Chris Angelico writes:
The 'is' operator tests if two things are the same thing.
»Roughly speaking, to say of two things that they are
identical is nonsense, and to say of one thing that it
is identical with itself is to say nothing at
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Chris Angelico writes:
>>The 'is' operator tests if two things are the same thing.
>
> »Roughly speaking, to say of two things that they are
> identical is nonsense, and to say of one thing that it
> is identical with itself i
Found that pythons have different paths. It might be related?
64 bit
C:\Users\me\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python36-32
C:\Users\me\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python36-32\DLLs
C:\Users\me\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python36-32\Lib
C:\Program Files\Python36\python36.zip
C:\Program Files\P
On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 5:59:17 PM UTC+5:30, nopsidy wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNe1wWeaHOU&list=PLYI8318YYdkCsZ7dsYV01n6TZhXA6Wf9i&index=1
> Thank you,
> -Alex Goretoy
> http://launchpad.net/~a1g
You (Alex) are top-posting. I am not fussy. But others here can be
In any ca
On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 05:12 pm, Antoon Pardon wrote:
[...]
>> I'm not saying that we should never use this model. Its a good model. But we
>> should be clear that it is a model of the implementation, and it describes
>> entities which are not part of the Python language. We cannot do this:
>>
>>
>>
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 10:44 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 5:48:48 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
>> a = (1,2)
>> b = (1,2)
>> a is b
>> > False
>> x = 1
>> y = 1
>> x is y
>> >
Hello,
I have 32Bit and 64Bit installations on my Windows 10 machine. I do import
importlib in both of them.
32bit works fine while 64bit prints error:
>>> import importlib
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
File
"C:\Users\me\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python36-32\
On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 5:48:48 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 5:08:20 PM UTC+5:30, Steve D'Aprano
> > wrote:
> >> On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 07:13 pm, Rustom Mody wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> > Can you e
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNe1wWeaHOU&list=PLYI8318YYdkCsZ7dsYV01n6TZhXA6Wf9i&index=1
Thank you,
-Alex Goretoy
http://launchpad.net/~a1g
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Steve D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 07:30 pm, Kryptxy wrote:
>
>> I am working on a (cross-platform) project. On l
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNe1wWeaHOU&list=PLYI8318YYdkCsZ7dsYV01n6TZhXA6Wf9i&index=1
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 6:57 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Friedrich Rentsch writes:
>>ready to go. Alas, execfile and import commands don't do my bidding, but
>>hang IDLE. All I can do is kill the process name
On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 4:03:40 PM UTC+5:30, ROGER GRAYDON CHRISTMAN
wrote:
> On 5 Sep 2017 14:28:44, (Dennis Lee Bier) wrote:
> > On 5 Sep 2017 17:57:18 GMT,
> >> But what does "a C++ reference" refer to?
> >>
>
> > Per Stroustrup (The C++ Programming Language 4th Ed, page 189)
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNe1wWeaHOU&list=PLYI8318YYdkCsZ7dsYV01n6TZhXA6Wf9i&index=1
Thank you,
-Alex Goretoy
http://launchpad.net/~a1g
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 7:18 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 5:08:2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNe1wWeaHOU&list=PLYI8318YYdkCsZ7dsYV01n6TZhXA6Wf9i&index=1
Thank you,
-Alex Goretoy
http://launchpad.net/~a1g
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Rustom Mody writes:
>>Because the abstract idea of a permutation is a list (sequence)
>
> Traditio
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 5:08:20 PM UTC+5:30, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 07:13 pm, Rustom Mody wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Can you explain what "id" and "is" without talking of memory?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> id() returns an abstract
On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 5:08:20 PM UTC+5:30, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 07:13 pm, Rustom Mody wrote:
>
>
> > Can you explain what "id" and "is" without talking of memory?
>
> Yes.
>
> id() returns an abstract ID number which is guaranteed to be an integer, and
> guara
On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 4:29:56 PM UTC+5:30, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Seems to me you're making life difficult for yourself (and
> very inefficient) by insisting on doing the whole computation
> with sets. If you want a set as a result, it's easy enough
> to construct one from the list at
Friedrich Rentsch wrote:
>
>
> On 06.09.2017 10:52, Peter Otten wrote:
>> Friedrich Rentsch wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, I am setting up Python 2.7 after an upgrade to Ubuntu 16.04, a
>>> thorough one, leaving no survivors. Everything is fine, IDLE opens,
>>> ready to go. Alas, execfile and import commands
On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 07:30 pm, Kryptxy wrote:
> I am working on a (cross-platform) project. On linux system, the imprts work
> fine, but in windows I get imort error (I have no idea why. I tried searching
> everywhere, but couldn't get it to work). Anyways, the issue seem to be
> resolved by adding
On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 07:13 pm, Rustom Mody wrote:
> Can you explain what "id" and "is" without talking of memory?
Yes.
id() returns an abstract ID number which is guaranteed to be an integer, and
guaranteed to be distinct for all objects which exist at the same time. When an
object ceases to exis
Seems to me you're making life difficult for yourself (and
very inefficient) by insisting on doing the whole computation
with sets. If you want a set as a result, it's easy enough
to construct one from the list at the end.
--
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Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Not in standard Pascal, but most actual Pascal compilers let you perform
pointer arithmetic.
Well, sort of. In the ones I've seen, it's more like
being able to cast a pointer to an integer, do arithmetic
on that and then cast it back. The results are about
as implementati
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
But many (perhaps even most) people have no problem dealing with location
as a metaphor, where being in two places (metaphorically) is no problem
at all:
- I am in love, in trouble and in denial all at once.
Sometimes the word "in" implies physical location, sometimes
On 05/09/17 23:29, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2017-09-05, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Pointer arithmetics is not an essential part of C. One could argue that
it was a mistake to include it in the language.
One may argue that it was a mistake, but I remember at least one
implementation where pointer ar
On 5 Sep 2017 14:28:44, wlfr...@ix.netcom.com (Dennis Lee Bier) wrote:
> On 5 Sep 2017 17:57:18 GMT, https://webmail.psu.edu/webmail/retrieve.cgi?mailbox=inbox&start_num=14200&limit=50&sort=0&display=4×tamp=20170906045729&mid=mailman%2e%2e1504662834%2e2732%2epython%2dlist%40python%2eorg#";>r.
On 06.09.2017 10:52, Peter Otten wrote:
Friedrich Rentsch wrote:
Hi, I am setting up Python 2.7 after an upgrade to Ubuntu 16.04, a
thorough one, leaving no survivors. Everything is fine, IDLE opens,
ready to go. Alas, execfile and import commands don't do my bidding, but
hang IDLE. All I can
On 2017-09-06 10:14, Friedrich Rentsch wrote:
> Hi, I am setting up Python 2.7 after an upgrade to Ubuntu 16.04, a
> thorough one, leaving no survivors. Everything is fine, IDLE opens,
> ready to go. Alas, execfile and import commands don't do my bidding, but
> hang IDLE. All I can do is kill the p
I am working on a (cross-platform) project. On linux system, the imprts work
fine, but in windows I get imort error (I have no idea why. I tried searching
everywhere, but couldn't get it to work).
Anyways, the issue seem to be resolved by adding project directory to
sys.path().
I wanted to know
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 12:51:25 PM UTC+5:30, Gregory Ewing wrote:
>> Rustom Mody wrote:
>> > 2. is — machine representation, too fine to be useful
>>
>> Disagree - "is" in Python has an abstract definition that
>> doesn't depend on m
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 7:01 PM, Gregory Ewing
wrote:
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> You can't do this with Python, since pointer arithmetic fundamentally
>> doesn't exist.
>
>
> Pointer arithmetic doesn't exist in Pascal either, yet
> Pascal most definitely has pointers as a distinct data
> type.
>
On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 12:51:25 PM UTC+5:30, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Rustom Mody wrote:
> > 2. is — machine representation, too fine to be useful
>
> Disagree - "is" in Python has an abstract definition that
> doesn't depend on machine representation.
>
> --
> Greg
There is this (AFA
Andrej Viktorovich wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have Python package tst in my workspace.
>
> tst has files:
> __init__.py
> tst.py
>
>
> content of __init__.py:
> print("importing Tst")
>
>
> content of tst.py:
> class Tst:
> def __init__(self):
> print("init Tst")
>
>
> I run python
Chris Angelico wrote:
You can't do this with Python, since pointer arithmetic fundamentally
doesn't exist.
Pointer arithmetic doesn't exist in Pascal either, yet
Pascal most definitely has pointers as a distinct data
type.
Insisting that only pointer arithmetic counts as
"manipulating" pointer
Steve D'Aprano wrote:
No, they aren't first-class.
Maybe not fully, but you can do a lot more with them
than you can in Pascal or Modula-2.
- Containers of references are not allowed.
You can't have arrays of references, but struct and class
members can be references, so you can certainly b
Friedrich Rentsch wrote:
> Hi, I am setting up Python 2.7 after an upgrade to Ubuntu 16.04, a
> thorough one, leaving no survivors. Everything is fine, IDLE opens,
> ready to go. Alas, execfile and import commands don't do my bidding, but
> hang IDLE. All I can do is kill the process named "python
Hello,
I have Python package tst in my workspace.
tst has files:
__init__.py
tst.py
content of __init__.py:
print("importing Tst")
content of tst.py:
class Tst:
def __init__(self):
print("init Tst")
I run python console in workspace directory. I do
>>>import tst
Run without erro
Hi, I am setting up Python 2.7 after an upgrade to Ubuntu 16.04, a
thorough one, leaving no survivors. Everything is fine, IDLE opens,
ready to go. Alas, execfile and import commands don't do my bidding, but
hang IDLE. All I can do is kill the process named "python" from a bash
terminal. IDLE t
Ben Finney :
> r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes:
>
>> In mathematics, every author is free to give his own definitions to
>> concepts and create his own notation.
>
> [...]
>
> For established terms in the field, an author has freedom to redefine
> those terms only to the extent tha
Rustom Mody wrote:
2. is — machine representation, too fine to be useful
Disagree - "is" in Python has an abstract definition that
doesn't depend on machine representation.
--
Greg
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Op 04-09-17 om 17:43 schreef Steve D'Aprano:
> On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 01:17 am, Rustom Mody wrote:
>
>> Anton gave a picture explaining why/how references are needed and to be
>> understood
> Antoon gave a picture demonstrating one model of Python's semantics.
>
> It's a nice model that has a lot going
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