On Thu, 25 May 2017 10:59:55 +1200, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> bartc wrote:
>
>> Yet the language will stop you assigning to 672, or "abc".
>>
>> Maybe the language could have been made even smaller if that was not
>> checked; after all the developer ought to be trusted not to assign to
>> them!
>
>
Deborah Swanson wrote:
So now I'm pipless.
You should be able to get it back using
python -m ensurepip
BTW, I don't know why upgrading pip would fail due to lack of
Visual Studio. That shouldn't be able to happen, because pip
is pure Python.
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On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 8:49 PM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 11:47:21 PM UTC-4, bream...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Well that's what is says here https://github.com/ofek/venum so it must be
>> true. Please move over Ethan, your time is up :-)
>>
>> Kindest regards.
>>
>> Mark Lawrence.
>
> He
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Deborah Swanson
wrote:
>> For packages that don't have wheels available on PyPI, you
>> can often find an unofficial build on Christoph Gohlke's site
>> [1]. He still builds and distributes wheels for Python 3.4,
>> but I don't know for how much longer.
>>
>> [1]:
Hi Ian,
yeah. feel free to ask for any relating python.
thanks!
On Thursday, May 25, 2017, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Spaarwiel > wrote:
> >
> > Hi there, i was always interested in coding but never took the time to
> learn it.
> >
> > So at age 34 i'm going to try a
eryk sun wrote, on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 6:32 PM
>
> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:18 AM, Deborah Swanson
> wrote:
> >
> > When I tried to upgrade pip it failed because it could neither find
> > nor install Visual Studio 2015.
>
> Installing and upgrading pip does not require a C compiler.
>
On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 11:47:21 PM UTC-4, bream...@gmail.com wrote:
> Well that's what is says here https://github.com/ofek/venum so it must be
> true. Please move over Ethan, your time is up :-)
>
> Kindest regards.
>
> Mark Lawrence.
Hey I've just run some tests and have updated the doc
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:18 AM, Deborah Swanson
wrote:
>
> When I tried to upgrade pip it failed because it could neither
> find nor install Visual Studio 2015.
Installing and upgrading pip does not require a C compiler.
> So now I'm pipless. Read the thread if you want to know why I don't hav
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 9:34 AM, bartc wrote:
> That was quite likely with older Fortrans, where subroutines only used
> pass-by-reference, but which didn't stop you passing references to constants
> that the subroutine could then modify.
>
> I doubt that's still the case. With C, however, I tried
Paul Moore wrote, on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 5:53 AM
> On Monday, 15 May 2017 22:42:22 UTC+1, Deborah Swanson wrote:
> > MRAB wrote, on Monday, May 15, 2017 12:44 PM
> > >
> > > On 2017-05-15 13:52, eryk sun wrote:
> > > > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:37 AM, Deborah Swanson
> > > > wrote:
> > > >>
Thank you for that write-up! I haven't used type hints, fearing pretty much
the obstacles you ran into.
The only thing I can (partially) offer is a tool, written by Google I believe, that parses and annotates code with the
types the code is /currently/ working with. I say partially because I
Hi Rajat,
On Wed, 24 May 2017 at 20:05 Rajat Sharma wrote:
> Is there a way to log all function calls of a class without changing
> anything in that class.
>
Several... depending on what you want to achieve some may be more suited
than others
> What I mean to say is if I have written a class
This is most likely using class objects instead of instance objects. Not a
normal thing in Python. As stated above, it is difficult, as the responses in
this thread show, to get assistance with some alternate coding style. It is
better to use Python in the way that is intended. Otherwise, yo
On 24/05/2017 23:59, Gregory Ewing wrote:
bartc wrote:
Yet the language will stop you assigning to 672, or "abc".
Maybe the language could have been made even smaller if that was not
checked; after all the developer ought to be trusted not to assign to
them!
I'm told that some Fortran implem
On 2017-05-25 00:02, woo...@gmail.com wrote:
How do you then run the mainloop, i.e. get it to do something?
tkinter.mainloop()
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bartc wrote:
Yet the language will stop you assigning to 672, or "abc".
Maybe the language could have been made even smaller if that was not
checked; after all the developer ought to be trusted not to assign to them!
I'm told that some Fortran implementations experimented with
something akin
bartc wrote:
Anyway, my Python 3.4 comprises 5000 files in around 90MB. Minimalism
hasn't really worked.
Most of that is standard library code, not part of the core
language.
Well, named constants are just such literals, but with a name. The
design of Python however means that that immediatel
Chris Angelico wrote:
So Fred might still think "final is great,
my stuff runs 0.1% faster", but Joe thinks "final is a pain in the
behind".
C# addresses this issue by making final the default. That way,
your behind is so numb from constant pain that you don't really
notice it, and the relief f
Steve D'Aprano wrote:
But I'll note that Python has supported read-only
properties for, oh, a decade or more, and do I hear people complaining
about how much libraries and applications over-use and abuse properties?
That's not quite the same thing. Python doesn't go out of its
way to support re
Hi,
I wanted to share my experience with adding type hints to one of my projects.
TL;DR: There were some benefits, mypy discovered a couple of bugs, there are a
few
annoyances for me, and I am not really sold on it yet.
Please correct my mistakes or help me solve some problems if possible :)
(
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 4:11 PM, bartc wrote:
> On 24/05/2017 15:31, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
>> If you don't want to assign to a name, then
>> just don't assign to it. No need to build support for constants into the
>> language when you can trust the developer to Don't Do That.
>
> Yet the language
On 24/05/2017 15:31, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
Same as if Python supported constants (names that can only be assigned to
once).
That's not quite the same as my notion of 'named constant' that I expand
below. This suggests that the actual literal bound to the name may not
be known until runtime.
Tim Williams wrote:
> Just as a followup, if I use 'unrepr=True' in my ConfigObj, I don't have
> to convert the strings.
I'd keep it simple and would use JSON...
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On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 2:46:54 PM UTC-4, Tim Williams wrote:
> (Apologies for using Google Groups to post)
>
> I'm trying to use dictConfig to configure logging. I keep running into the
> error that the logging.StreamHandler object is not iterable.
>
> I'm using Python 3.4.3 on a Windows
On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 2:46:54 PM UTC-4, Tim Williams wrote:
> (Apologies for using Google Groups to post)
>
> I'm trying to use dictConfig to configure logging. I keep running into the
> error that the logging.StreamHandler object is not iterable.
>
> I'm using Python 3.4.3 on a Windows
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:31 AM, Steve D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Wed, 24 May 2017 10:07 pm, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> I'm sure it could be done. But would it really benefit anyone
>> anything? Java has "final" classes, which can't be subclassed; and I
>> haven't heard many people saying "I wish you w
Tim Williams wrote:
> (Apologies for using Google Groups to post)
>
> I'm trying to use dictConfig to configure logging. I keep running into the
> error that the logging.StreamHandler object is not iterable.
>
> I'm using Python 3.4.3 on a Windows 7 box.
>
> C:\Python34\python.exe 3.4.3 (v3.4.3
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:10 AM, Steve D'Aprano
wrote:
> The page says:
>
> venum provides an Enum that is actually just a namedtuple,
No kidding. This is the entirety of the code for it:
from collections import namedtuple
def Enum(*args, **kwargs):
fields, values = zip(*args)
ret
Hi Everyone,
Is there a way to log all function calls of a class without changing anything
in that class.
What I mean to say is if I have written a class previously and I want to enable
logging in that then I would probably need to write the following before my
function calls-
logger.debug('
(Apologies for using Google Groups to post)
I'm trying to use dictConfig to configure logging. I keep running into the
error that the logging.StreamHandler object is not iterable.
I'm using Python 3.4.3 on a Windows 7 box.
C:\Python34\python.exe 3.4.3 (v3.4.3:9b73f1c3e601, Feb 24 2015, 22:44:40
bartc wrote:
> On 24/05/2017 16:41, Peter Otten wrote:
>> Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 23 May 2017 21:42:45 +0100, bartc declaimed the
>>> following:
>>>
Is it necessary to sort them? If XXX is known, then presumably the
first file will be called XXX_chunk_0, the next XXX_chu
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Spaarwiel wrote:
>
> Hi there, i was always interested in coding but never took the time to
learn it.
>
> So at age 34 i'm going to try and see if i can win this.
>
> Saw on a website this is good group page to come for help so i will def.
be asking alot of questi
Hi there, i was always interested in coding but never took the time to learn it.
So at age 34 i'm going to try and see if i can win this.
Saw on a website this is good group page to come for help so i will def. be
asking alot of questions here :)
B.t.w i have no knowledge of coding whatsoever s
On 24/05/2017 16:41, Peter Otten wrote:
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Tue, 23 May 2017 21:42:45 +0100, bartc declaimed the
following:
Is it necessary to sort them? If XXX is known, then presumably the first
file will be called XXX_chunk_0, the next XXX_chunk_1 and so on.
XXX_chunk_1
XXX_chu
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Tue, 23 May 2017 21:42:45 +0100, bartc declaimed the
> following:
>
>>Is it necessary to sort them? If XXX is known, then presumably the first
>>file will be called XXX_chunk_0, the next XXX_chunk_1 and so on.
>>
>
> XXX_chunk_1
> XXX_chunk_10
> XXX_chunk_2
This i
On 05/24/2017 07:31 AM, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 10:07 pm, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
Although I wonder:
- maybe the enumeration (the class ContentTypes) could have a nicer repr
than
- maybe you could add functionality to
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On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 2:14:15 AM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote:
> Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards writes:
>
> > On 2017-05-23, Michael Torrie wrote:
> > > Sometimes things get longer than a page (like a class definition).
> >
> > A nice folding mode works nicely for that sort of thing. I norma
On Wed, 24 May 2017 10:07 pm, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Steve D'Aprano
> wrote:
>> Although I wonder:
>>
>> - maybe the enumeration (the class ContentTypes) could have a nicer repr
>> than
>>
>>
>>
>> - maybe you could add functionality to freeze the enumeration so
On 2017-05-23, Ben Finney wrote:
> Grant Edwards writes:
>
>> On 2017-05-23, Michael Torrie wrote:
>> > Sometimes things get longer than a page (like a class definition).
>>
>> A nice folding mode works nicely for that sort of thing. I normally
>> use emacs, but it doesn't seem to have a folding
Le mardi 23 mai 2017 19:10:11 UTC+2, Irmen de Jong a écrit :
> On 23-5-2017 10:19, COPIN Mathieu. wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I want to get a server certificate from the host-name.
> >
> > I know I could do something like :
> >> call(openssl, s_client, -showcerts, -connect, hostname:port)
> >
> >
>
On Monday, 15 May 2017 22:42:22 UTC+1, Deborah Swanson wrote:
> MRAB wrote, on Monday, May 15, 2017 12:44 PM
> >
> > On 2017-05-15 13:52, eryk sun wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:37 AM, Deborah Swanson
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Where did you find recordclass-0.4.3-cp34-cp34m-win32.whl?
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Steve D'Aprano
wrote:
> Although I wonder:
>
> - maybe the enumeration (the class ContentTypes) could have a nicer repr
> than
>
>
>
> - maybe you could add functionality to freeze the enumeration so that new
> members cannot be added?
>
>
> class ContentTypes(Enu
On Wed, 24 May 2017 01:47 pm, breamore...@gmail.com wrote:
> Well that's what is says here https://github.com/ofek/venum so it must be
> true. Please move over Ethan, your time is up :-)
The page says:
venum provides an Enum that is actually just a namedtuple, but
easier to create. Thi
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
As for creating a PDF -- that is described in the about.md file (it
uses "gitbook")
Thanks. Tried Gitbook after downloading it. Yuk!
But I had some success using "sphinx-quickstart --batchfile"
and tweaking the generated source/conf.py file and a
hand-generated
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If I need to isolate some pieces of code inside request handlers, can I use
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If I need semaphore, must I use threading.Semaphore or gevent.lock.Semaphore?
What is the difference between them?
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On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
> On 05/23/2017 08:47 PM, breamore...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Well that's what is says here https://github.com/ofek/venum so it must be
>> true. Please move over Ethan, your time is up :-)
>
>
> No comment.
>
# No longer no comment.
ChrisA
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On 05/23/2017 08:47 PM, breamore...@gmail.com wrote:
Well that's what is says here https://github.com/ofek/venum so it must be true.
Please move over Ethan, your time is up :-)
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