Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Terry Reedy
On 4/1/2017 12:00 PM, Steve D'Aprano wrote: example of the Ugly American. As an American I resent your promotion and perpetuation of an ugly ethno-centric stereotype. -- Terry Jan Reedy -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Steve D'Aprano
On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 12:42 pm, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 9:18:14 PM UTC-5, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > [...] >> Even India has a literacy rate of 74%, which is not far off >> the functional literacy rate in the US of 86%. >> >> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/06/illiterac

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Michael Torrie
On 04/01/2017 08:18 PM, Steve D'Aprano wrote: >> And yet America continues to be emulated by 100% of the world. > > Well, at least 100% of the world that you know of. Which isn't saying much. I plonked RR a long time ago, but this little doozie requires a reply! Having just traveled half way acro

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Rick Johnson
On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 9:18:14 PM UTC-5, Steve D'Aprano wrote: [...] > Even India has a literacy rate of 74%, which is not far off > the functional literacy rate in the US of 86%. > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/06/illiteracy-rate_n_3880355.html And your source is the HuffPo? Seri

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread MRAB
On 2017-04-02 02:38, Rick Johnson wrote: On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 3:08:20 PM UTC-5, Mikhail V wrote: On 1 April 2017 at 06:38, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 9:14:54 AM UTC-5, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > > - and making band names look ǨØØĻ and annoy old fuddy- > > duddie

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Steve D'Aprano
On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 09:11 am, Rick Johnson wrote: > The majority of the populations you reference are > illiterate. /face-palm The majority of Chinese and Japanese are illiterate. Really? Even India has a literacy rate of 74%, which is not far off the functional literacy rate in the US of 86%.

Re: Temporary variables in list comprehensions

2017-04-01 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > Robert, I've asked you once to stop posting anti-Semitic signatures in your > posts. You've now posted four times, and each one has included racist > material in the signature. > > You are welcome to participate here if you discuss Python, o

Re: Temporary variables in list comprehensions

2017-04-01 Thread Steve D'Aprano
Robert, I've asked you once to stop posting anti-Semitic signatures in your posts. You've now posted four times, and each one has included racist material in the signature. You are welcome to participate here if you discuss Python, or even to discuss general programming techniques, but if you cont

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Rick Johnson
On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 3:08:20 PM UTC-5, Mikhail V wrote: > On 1 April 2017 at 06:38, Rick Johnson wrote: > > On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 9:14:54 AM UTC-5, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > > > > - and making band names look ǨØØĻ and annoy old fuddy- > > > duddies. > > > > So now we've even includ

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Mikhail V
On 2 April 2017 at 02:01, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 9:25 AM, Mikhail V wrote: >> On 2 April 2017 at 00:22, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 8:16 AM, Mikhail V wrote: For multiple-alphabet rendering I will use some custom text format, e.g. with tags

net-snmp-python

2017-04-01 Thread Matt
Does anyone have an example of using netsnmp library to do a snmpset on a snmp v2 device? I have gotten snmpget to work fine with python I just cannot get snmpset to work. I know I have the snmp device configured correctly with read/write access since I can use snmpset on the linux(centos7) comma

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 9:25 AM, Mikhail V wrote: > On 2 April 2017 at 00:22, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 8:16 AM, Mikhail V wrote: >>> For multiple-alphabet rendering I will use some >>> custom text format, e.g. with tags >>> ... , and for latin >>> ... and etc. >>> >>> Simp

Re: VirtualEnvs (venv) and Powershell

2017-04-01 Thread eryk sun
On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Carl Caulkett wrote: > I've just started to investigate VirtualEnvironments as a means of > preventing my 3rd party code becoming chaotic. I've discovered that > venv's can be managed quite effectively using Powershell. When > Activate.ps1 is run, the PowerShell ch

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Mikhail V
On 2 April 2017 at 00:22, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 8:16 AM, Mikhail V wrote: >> For multiple-alphabet rendering I will use some >> custom text format, e.g. with tags >> ... , and for latin >> ... and etc. >> >> Simple and effective. > > For multi-alphabet rendering, I would

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Rick Johnson
On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 11:01:03 AM UTC-5, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 12:17 pm, Rick Johnson wrote: > > > Most people just quietly change the filename and move on > > There are over a billion people in China, almost a billion > more in India, about 140 million people in Russ

Re: VirtualEnvs (venv) and Powershell

2017-04-01 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 31Mar2017 19:03, Carl Caulkett wrote: I've just started to investigate VirtualEnvironments as a means of preventing my 3rd party code becoming chaotic. I've discovered that venv's can be managed quite effectively using Powershell. When Activate.ps1 is run, the PowerShell changes to indicate t

python installs on OSX missing dbm.gnu

2017-04-01 Thread Cameron Simpson
I've got three different installs of Python 3.6.1 on my El Capitan Mac: MacPorts, homebrew and the .pkg from python.org. For reasons I haven't divined, the homebrew and MacPorts ones abort with malloc related errors. So I went to install the distro from python.org, which happily does not. Ho

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 8:16 AM, Mikhail V wrote: > For multiple-alphabet rendering I will use some > custom text format, e.g. with tags > ... , and for latin > ... and etc. > > Simple and effective. For multi-alphabet rendering, I would rather use an even simpler format: Remove the tags and use

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Mikhail V
On 1 April 2017 at 18:00, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 12:17 pm, Rick Johnson wrote: > >> Most people just quietly change the filename and move on > > > There are over a billion people in China, almost a billion more in India, > about 140 million people in Russia, nearly 130 million

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 7:49 AM, Stefan Ram wrote: > Chris Angelico writes: >>Yes it can; however, there is no way within Python to have a string >>that can represent two strings, which is what directory separators do. > > To represent two strings, /internally/ ("within Python"), > a straightf

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 7:35 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Chris Angelico : > >> there is no way within Python to have a string that can represent two >> strings, which is what directory separators do. > > Really? Try: > >>>> repr(("a", "b")) >"('a', 'b')" > > There! A string that represents

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Mikhail V
On 1 April 2017 at 22:57, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 6:07 AM, Mikhail V wrote: >> On 1 April 2017 at 06:38, Rick Johnson wrote: >>> On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 9:14:54 AM UTC-5, Steve D'Aprano wrote: >> - and making band names look ǨØØĻ and annoy old fuddy- duddi

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Chris Angelico : > there is no way within Python to have a string that can represent two > strings, which is what directory separators do. Really? Try: >>> repr(("a", "b")) "('a', 'b')" There! A string that represents two strings. Note, however, that Python programs generally don't restr

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 7:06 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Chris Angelico : > >> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >>> A far more convenient escaping scheme could have been devised for >>> pathnames. >> >> Definitely. We should treat file names like domain names. "Bücher.ch" >> g

Re: sorting list python

2017-04-01 Thread Robert L.
On 1/18/2017, Peter Otten wrote: > with partite.txt looking like this > > > 74' Kessie' > > 90' + 4' D'alessandro > > 51' Mchedlidze > > 54' Banega > > 56' Icardi > > 65' Icardi > > 14' Sau > > > Assuming you want to perform a numerical sort on the numbers before the ' > you can just apply sor

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Chris Angelico : > On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >> A far more convenient escaping scheme could have been devised for >> pathnames. > > Definitely. We should treat file names like domain names. "Bücher.ch" > gets represented internally as "xn--bcher-kva.ch". That would sol

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > You are stuck with the axiom that pathname and its representation are > one and the same thing. > > URI's make the distinction clear. Say you wanted to express a resource > >päätyö/2 > > as part of a URI. URIs are to contain a subset of A

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 6:07 AM, Mikhail V wrote: > On 1 April 2017 at 06:38, Rick Johnson wrote: >> On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 9:14:54 AM UTC-5, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > >>> - and making band names look ǨØØĻ and annoy old fuddy- >>> duddies. >> >> So now we've even included graffiti artists in

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Steve D'Aprano : > But if I could borrow Guido's time machine, I'd go back and convince > the file system people to use ^ as the record separator, rather than > slash or backslash or colon. Caret is *much* less likely to be useful > in file names than forward slash (often used for dates) or colon,

Re: How to flatten only one sub list of list of lists

2017-04-01 Thread Robert L.
On 3/1/2017, Sayth Renshaw wrote: > How can I flatten just a specific sublist of each list in a list of lists? > > So if I had this data > > > [ ['46295', 'Montauk', '3', '60', '85', ['19', '5', '1', '0 $277790.00']], > ['46295', 'Dark Eyes', '5', '59', '83', ['6', '4', '1', '0 $105625.00

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Mikhail V
On 1 April 2017 at 06:38, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 9:14:54 AM UTC-5, Steve D'Aprano wrote: >> - and making band names look ǨØØĻ and annoy old fuddy- >> duddies. > > So now we've even included graffiti artists in our little > "inclusivity project". My, my... we are so _

Re: Spam user

2017-04-01 Thread Mario R. Osorio
I'm not in the business of starting an argument about best/worse newsreader, Ammammata, but could you please recommend a few? TIA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread MRAB
On 2017-04-01 17:43, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: Steve D'Aprano : Open your eyes, there is a whole world past the borders of your insular, close-minded little country. 95% of the world is not American, and there are millions of Americans who want to use non-ASCII characters in their file names, even

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread eryk sun
On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > Or, for Windows, I suppose a dozen or so more characters: > > https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Invalid-characters-in-file-or-folder-names-or-invalid- > file-types-in-OneDrive-for-Business-64883A5D-228E-48F5-B3D2-EB39E07630FA It's mor

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Tim Chase
On 2017-04-01 19:43, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > It would be nice to be able to use a / in my file names. Funny > enough, I'm allowed to use a zillion unprintable characters in my > file names but no slashes allowed. > > Example: > >results-Q2/2017.json You can: $ touch $(/usr/bin/printf "res

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Tim Chase
On 2017-04-02 03:09, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > *Whatever* record separator you choose to use, whether it is > slash / or backslash \ or colon : or Ctrl-^ RS or U+113A HANGUL > CHOSEONG SIOS-PHIEUPH, you can't *also* use it as a non-record > separator. Well, one could use 0x1C (FS=File Separator) whi

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Steve D'Aprano
On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 03:18 am, Alain Ketterlin wrote: > Marko Rauhamaa writes: > >> It would be nice to be able to use a / in my file names. Funny enough, >> I'm allowed to use a zillion unprintable characters in my file names but >> no slashes allowed. >> >> Example: >> >>results-Q2/2017.json

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Steve D'Aprano
On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 03:08 am, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Chris Angelico : > >> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 2:43 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >>> It would be nice to be able to use a / in my file names. Funny >>> enough, I'm allowed to use a zillion unprintable characters in my >>> file names but no slashes

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Alain Ketterlin
Marko Rauhamaa writes: > It would be nice to be able to use a / in my file names. Funny enough, > I'm allowed to use a zillion unprintable characters in my file names but > no slashes allowed. > > Example: > >results-Q2/2017.json Use U+2215 (DIVISION SLASH). I have tried this once. "Next ti

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread eryk sun
On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 2:43 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >> Steve D'Aprano : >> >>> Open your eyes, there is a whole world past the borders of your insular, >>> close-minded little country. 95% of the world is not American, and there >>> are mi

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Chris Angelico : > On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 2:43 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >> It would be nice to be able to use a / in my file names. Funny >> enough, I'm allowed to use a zillion unprintable characters in my >> file names but no slashes allowed. >> >> Example: >> >>results-Q2/2017.json > > Bu

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Steve D'Aprano
On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 02:43 am, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Steve D'Aprano : > >> Open your eyes, there is a whole world past the borders of your insular, >> close-minded little country. 95% of the world is not American, and there >> are millions of Americans who want to use non-ASCII characters in thei

Re: Moderator please remove [Re: Better way to do this dict comprehesion]

2017-04-01 Thread Skip Montanaro
Passed along to postmas...@python.org, who generally takes care of this sort of thing. Skip On Apr 1, 2017 11:19 AM, "Steve D'Aprano" wrote: > Can one of the mailing list moderators please remove this person's post for > including a link to an anti-Semitic video by David Duke? > > > > On Sat, 1

django add images to models.py from views.py

2017-04-01 Thread Xristos Xristoou
I create a simple Django authentication app and work fine. now I want to add a python script where to can do some simple image processing. my python script for processing work fine and I put in the views.py. my question is the new image created from the script how to can add back to image from m

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 2:43 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Steve D'Aprano : > >> Open your eyes, there is a whole world past the borders of your insular, >> close-minded little country. 95% of the world is not American, and there >> are millions of Americans who want to use non-ASCII characters in th

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Steve D'Aprano : > Open your eyes, there is a whole world past the borders of your insular, > close-minded little country. 95% of the world is not American, and there > are millions of Americans who want to use non-ASCII characters in their > file names, even non-Latin characters. It would be nic

Moderator please remove [Re: Better way to do this dict comprehesion]

2017-04-01 Thread Steve D'Aprano
Can one of the mailing list moderators please remove this person's post for including a link to an anti-Semitic video by David Duke? On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 07:13 pm, Robert L. wrote: Goyim were born [...] web.archive.org/web/20101020044210/http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld[...] archive.org/download/

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Steve D'Aprano
On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 12:17 pm, Rick Johnson wrote: > Most people just quietly change the filename and move on There are over a billion people in China, almost a billion more in India, about 140 million people in Russia, nearly 130 million people in Japan, 250 million in Indonesia, about 290 millio

Re: Read JSON file correctly

2017-04-01 Thread Peter Otten
Umar Yusuf wrote: > How do I read this json file correctly? Details at: > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/43152368/python-unicodedecodeerror-charmap-codec-cant-decode-byte-0x81-in-position Should you ever come back please take the time to post the "details" here. Also, provide the tracebac

Read JSON file correctly

2017-04-01 Thread Umar Yusuf
How do I read this json file correctly? Details at: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/43152368/python-unicodedecodeerror-charmap-codec-cant-decode-byte-0x81-in-position -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Thread within for loop

2017-04-01 Thread Iranna Mathapati
Hi , How to fix it and now i got below error for same script *runtimeerror threads can only be started once then* *Thanks,* On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 1:15 PM, dieter wrote: > Iranna Mathapati writes: > > ... > > Exception in thread Thread-5: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > ... > >

Re: Better way to do this dict comprehesion

2017-04-01 Thread Robert L.
On 3/7/2017, Sayth Renshaw wrote: > I have got this dictionary comprehension and it > works but how can I do it better? > > from collections import Counter > > def find_it(seq): > counts = dict(Counter(seq)) > a = [(k, v) for k,v in counts.items() if v % 3 == 0] > return a[0][0] >

Re: Thread within for loop

2017-04-01 Thread dieter
Iranna Mathapati writes: > ... > Exception in thread Thread-5: > Traceback (most recent call last): > ... > File > "/auto/n3k-qa/CODC/ianandan/pyATS2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pexpect/__init__.py", > line 1466, in expect_list > timeout, searchwindowsize) > File > "/auto/n3k-qa/CODC/ian

Re: Developing a Python JIT and have trouble

2017-04-01 Thread dieter
Yuheng Zou writes: > ... > I built a C++ library which contains EvalFrame function, and then use dlopen > and dlsym to use it. It looks like this: > > extern "C" PyObject *EvalFrame(PyFrameObject *f, int throwflag) { > return _PyEval_EvalFrameDefault(f, throwflag); > } > I added following cod

Thread within for loop

2017-04-01 Thread Iranna Mathapati
Hi team, I tried to run fallowing run, *jobs = []* *sniffer1 = threading.Thread(target=validate_traffic_stats_dy,args= (FT_item_dy,RT_item_dy,forward_path_list_dy,return_path_list_dy,nat_type_list_dy,pkt_dy_1,))* *jobs.append(sniffer1)* *sniffer2 = threading.Thr