On Sun, Apr 17, 2016, at 01:01, eryk sun wrote:
> It doesn't support fonts that mix half-width and full-width glyphs.
This is the most baffling bit to me. I mean, it _has_ to, for Chinese,
Japanese, and Korean users. This support obviously exists in the code.
Why not extend it to everyone, inste
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Tim Chase
wrote:
> On 2016-04-16 19:39, eryk sun wrote:
>> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Tim Chase wrote:
>> > I also do some editing/diffing within a cmd.exe window on Windows
>> > which is limited to 80 characters unless you do some hijinks in
>> > the setting
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Jurell wrote:
> I installed the Python program version 3.5.1 32 bit and the IDE I am going
> to use is Wing IDE 101. The problem when I tried installing the python
> program was as follows: "The program can`t start because
> api-ms-win-crt-runtime-l1-1-0.dll is m
On 4/16/2016 9:31 PM, blueridicul...@gmail.com wrote:
So I was reading https://wiki.python.org/moin/TkInter for help.
> I got to step 3 under "Checking your Tkinter support."
> Nothing happens when I do steps 1 or 2, and when I do step 3,
> I get this error:
Traceback (most recent call last):
Mel: Portuguese for honey
Drosis: from Greek hidrōs; to sweat
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On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 11:48:11 +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 09:35 am, Dan Sommers wrote:
>
>> We (this mailing list, or maybe it was the python-ideas mailing list)
>> just had a thread about non-ASCII characters in identifiers. One of
>> the main argument against is the conf
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 1:44 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> Thats a strange self-contradiction. I wrote this:
> http://blog.languager.org/2012/10/layout-imperative-in-functional.html
> to make the case against PEP8 style line length strictures.
> Which has the SAME code formatted in two styles:
>
> --
On Saturday, April 16, 2016 at 10:22:10 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Larry Martell :
>
> > I have worked for many companies where you are required to get a clean
> > run of pep8 on your code before your pull request will even be
> > considered for approval. I don't agree with this at all,
I'm pleased to announce a new standard library module for Python 3.6 and
better, to aid in generating secure tokens for authentication and other
secrets.
Last year, the founder of OpenBSD Theo de Raadt contacted Guido van Rossum
with concerns that the Python standard library made it too easy for p
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016, at 21:30, Tim Chase wrote:
> On 2016-04-16 19:39, eryk sun wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Tim Chase wrote:
> > > I also do some editing/diffing within a cmd.exe window on Windows
> > > which is limited to 80 characters unless you do some hijinks in
> > > the setti
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 09:35 am, Dan Sommers wrote:
> We (this mailing list, or maybe it was the python-ideas mailing list)
> just had a thread about non-ASCII characters in identifiers. One of the
> main argument against is the confusables (A vs Α vs А). Sufficient
> tooling, however, could render
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 06:44 am, Random832 wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016, at 16:21, Ben Finney wrote:
>> * Oh, come on, no-one would use U+000C FORM FEED in source code.
>
> Some text editors have shortcuts to navigate to the previous/next line
> that begins with a form feed.
Are you saying that's
So I was reading https://wiki.python.org/moin/TkInter for help. I got to step 3
under "Checking your Tkinter support." Nothing happens when I do steps 1 or 2,
and when I do step 3, I get this error:
"
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 301, in runcode
File "", line 1, in
Fil
On 2016-04-16 19:39, eryk sun wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Tim Chase wrote:
> > I also do some editing/diffing within a cmd.exe window on Windows
> > which is limited to 80 characters unless you do some hijinks in
> > the settings to expand it.
>
> Try `mode con cols=120 lines=30`.
Y
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 03:12 am, Mel Drosis wrote:
>
> My phone my accounts my home network have all been affected because of
> someone using coding from Python and Linux and GitHub and json. I don't
> even know what this stuff is but how do I get rid of it all. It's ruined
> my life. Sent from my i
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 02:09 am, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> VMS had a whole slew of "no error" status values (essentially all
> positive odd integers were "success", but different values carried
> additional information.
1 = success
3 = success against all odds
5 = success but at great cost
7 = su
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016, at 20:20, Joel Goldstick wrote:
> As it turns out, the OP hasn't engaged in any further back and forth,
> which to me enforces my original post.
It's entirely possible he's not subscribed to the mailing list.
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Chris Angelico writes:
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>> Dennis Lee Bieber writes:
>>
>>> I still miss the Amiga -- in which one could /push/ a window to the
>>> back of the stack while still retaining input focus! Made it nice for
>>> transcribing stuff from a v
On 2016-04-17 00:11, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber
wrote:
I still miss the Amiga -- in which one could /push/ a window to the
back of the stack while still retaining input focus! Made it nice for
transcribing stuff from a visible window to a te
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 7:49 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 16 April 2016 18:02:50 Joel Goldstick wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Chris Angelico
> wrote:
>> > On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 3:12 AM, Mel Drosis via Python-list
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >> My phone my accounts my home netwo
On 2016-04-16 19:02, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> I still miss the Amiga -- in which one could /push/ a
> window to the back of the stack while still retaining input focus!
> Made it nice for transcribing stuff from a visible window to a text
> input region while it was obscured.
What OS (or i
On Saturday 16 April 2016 18:02:50 Joel Goldstick wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Chris Angelico
wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 3:12 AM, Mel Drosis via Python-list
> >
> > wrote:
> >> My phone my accounts my home network have all been affected because
> >> of someone using coding
The 80 column limit probably helps protect us from the singularity. Once
the robots take over we will have code with a digestible amount of logic
per line and can fix what we have caused. In other words, Java is only
armoring the robots against us for the inevitable battle.
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 07:34:20 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 7:22 AM, Dan Sommers wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 16:44:30 -0400, Random832 wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016, at 16:21, Ben Finney wrote:
* Oh, come on, no-one would use U+000C FORM FEED in source code.
>>
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> Dennis Lee Bieber writes:
>
>> I still miss the Amiga -- in which one could /push/ a window to the
>> back of the stack while still retaining input focus! Made it nice for
>> transcribing stuff from a visible window to a text input re
Dennis Lee Bieber writes:
> I still miss the Amiga -- in which one could /push/ a window to the
> back of the stack while still retaining input focus! Made it nice for
> transcribing stuff from a visible window to a text input region while it
> was obscured.
That was commonly available on
On 2016-04-16, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> I still miss the Amiga -- in which one could /push/ a window to the
> back of the stack while still retaining input focus! Made it nice for
> transcribing stuff from a visible window to a text input region while it
> was obscured.
I do that all the time
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber
wrote:
> I still miss the Amiga -- in which one could /push/ a window to the
> back of the stack while still retaining input focus! Made it nice for
> transcribing stuff from a visible window to a text input region while it
> was obscured.
Dear Sir/Madam
I installed the Python program version 3.5.1 32 bit and the IDE I am going
to use is Wing IDE 101. The problem when I tried installing the python
program was as follows: "The program can`t start because
api-ms-win-crt-runtime-l1-1-0.dll is missing from your computer. Try
reinstal
On Friday, April 15, 2016 at 3:04:09 PM UTC-4, Pierre Quentel wrote:
> Le jeudi 14 avril 2016 22:50:33 UTC+2, wrh...@gmail.com a écrit :
> > On Thursday, April 14, 2016 at 2:23:36 PM UTC-4, Andrew Farrell wrote:
> > > What happens when you type
> > >
> > > http://localhost:8000
> > >
> > > Into t
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Erik wrote:
> On 16/04/16 23:02, Joel Goldstick wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 3:12 AM, Mel Drosis via Python-list
>>> wrote:
My phone my accounts my home network have all been affected because of
someone using coding from Python and Li
Tim Delaney :
> Personally, I've given up on 80 characters (or even 120 in rare cases)
> for Java code (esp method declarations), where just specifying the
> generics can often take almost that much.
Java generics ruined a perfectly good language. I mean:
Map> customersOfAccountManager =
On 04/16/2016 04:21 PM, Erik wrote:
> On 16/04/16 23:02, Joel Goldstick wrote:
>>> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 3:12 AM, Mel Drosis via Python-list
>>> wrote:
My phone my accounts my home network have all been affected because of
someone using coding from Python and Linux and GitHub and
On 16/04/16 23:02, Joel Goldstick wrote:
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 3:12 AM, Mel Drosis via Python-list
wrote:
My phone my accounts my home network have all been affected because of someone
using coding from Python and Linux and GitHub and json. I don't even know what
this stuff is but how do I
On 17 April 2016 at 07:50, Tim Chase wrote:
> On 2016-04-17 06:08, Ben Finney wrote:
> > Larry Martell writes:
> > > if we still had 1970's 80 character TTYs that would matter but on
> > > my 29" 1920x1080 screen it doesn't.
> >
> > Larry, you've been around long enough to know that's not an arg
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 3:12 AM, Mel Drosis via Python-list
> wrote:
>>
>> My phone my accounts my home network have all been affected because of
>> someone using coding from Python and Linux and GitHub and json. I don't even
>> know what
I failed to install the package of scipy on Python2.7(win64).
1. I tried the direct way that use cmd--pip install scripy. The result shows
that it failed with error code 1 in
c:\tyk\appdata\local\temp\pip-build-an9fye\scipy\.
2. I tried to install in another way. I download the
scipy-0.17.0-cp
On 2016-04-17 06:08, Ben Finney wrote:
> Larry Martell writes:
> > if we still had 1970's 80 character TTYs that would matter but on
> > my 29" 1920x1080 screen it doesn't.
>
> Larry, you've been around long enough to know that's not an argument
> against a limited line length for code. It is not
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 7:22 AM, Dan Sommers wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 16:44:30 -0400, Random832 wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016, at 16:21, Ben Finney wrote:
>>> * Oh, come on, no-one would use U+000C FORM FEED in source code.
>>
>> Some text editors have shortcuts to navigate to the previous/
On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 16:44:30 -0400, Random832 wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016, at 16:21, Ben Finney wrote:
>> * Oh, come on, no-one would use U+000C FORM FEED in source code.
>
> Some text editors have shortcuts to navigate to the previous/next line
> that begins with a form feed.
Add these to the
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 3:12 AM, Mel Drosis via Python-list
wrote:
>
> My phone my accounts my home network have all been affected because of
> someone using coding from Python and Linux and GitHub and json. I don't even
> know what this stuff is but how do I get rid of it all. It's ruined my li
My phone my accounts my home network have all been affected because of someone
using coding from Python and Linux and GitHub and json. I don't even know what
this stuff is but how do I get rid of it all. It's ruined my life.
Sent from my iPhone
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On Sat, Apr 16, 2016, at 16:21, Ben Finney wrote:
> * Oh, come on, no-one would use U+000C FORM FEED in source code.
Some text editors have shortcuts to navigate to the previous/next line
that begins with a form feed.
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Op 15-04-16 om 18:47 schreef Steven D'Aprano:
> On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 10:48 pm, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
>> Starting from this:
>>
>> class Test_AVLTree(unittest.TestCase):
>>
>> def test_empty_tree_is_false(self):
>> instance = avltree()
>> self.assertFalse(insta
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 6:21 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
> Great suggestion. (Do you have a blog on which you could post an article
> like this?)
I do. I'll let people contribute for a while, and then I'll post it on
rosuav.blogspot.com.
Thanks for the additions!
ChrisA
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Dennis Lee Bieber writes:
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 16:56:10 +1000, Ben Finney
> declaimed the following:
>
> >It seems strange that even the constant for “no error” exit status
> >should be defined only for Unix :-/
>
> VMS had a whole slew of "no error" status values
That's fine; those valu
Chris Angelico writes:
> Maybe we need a blog post "Falsehoods Programmers Believe About PEP
> 8", along the lines of the ones about time and names.
Great suggestion. (Do you have a blog on which you could post an article
like this?)
> Remember, every one of these is false.
>
> * All Python cod
Larry Martell writes:
> if we still had 1970's 80 character TTYs that would matter but on my
> 29" 1920x1080 screen it doesn't.
Larry, you've been around long enough to know that's not an argument
against a limited line length for code. It is not about the technology
of your terminal. It's about
We employ a pretty hard limit of 100. This way I can reliably have 1
module split vertically with a test or configuration file open or 3
separate modules, etc. I find 80 to be a bit strict, although in the past
I've been in unfortunate environments where it was helpful. The rest of
PEP8 is large
On 04/16/2016 10:25 AM, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 4/16/2016 12:58 PM, Larry Martell wrote:
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Larry Martell wrote:
I have worked for many companies where you are required to get a clean
run of pep8 on your code before your pull request will
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 2:18 PM, BartC wrote:
> On 16/04/2016 17:58, Larry Martell wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>>>
>>> Larry Martell :
>>>
I have worked for many companies where you are required to get a clean
run of pep8 on your code before your
Terry Reedy :
> On 4/16/2016 12:58 PM, Larry Martell wrote:
>> if we still had 1970's 80 character TTYs that would matter but on my
>> 29" 1920x1080 screen it doesn't.
>
> It depends on whether one prefers to use the extra width to have long
> lines or side-by-side windows. I prefer the latter.
On 16/04/2016 17:58, Larry Martell wrote:
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Larry Martell :
I have worked for many companies where you are required to get a clean
run of pep8 on your code before your pull request will even be
considered for approval. I don't agree with t
On 4/16/2016 12:58 PM, Larry Martell wrote:
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Larry Martell :
I have worked for many companies where you are required to get a clean
run of pep8 on your code before your pull request will even be
considered for approval. I don't agree with
On 4/16/2016 3:35 AM, durgadevi1 wrote:
what does dynamic inputs mean and how is it implemented in python programming?
'dynamic input' is new to me. I would take it to mean input that is not
available until the program is running. Inputs from people and sensors
would qualify. But maybe wh
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Larry Martell :
>
>> I have worked for many companies where you are required to get a clean
>> run of pep8 on your code before your pull request will even be
>> considered for approval. I don't agree with this at all, as I think it
>> makes
Larry Martell :
> I have worked for many companies where you are required to get a clean
> run of pep8 on your code before your pull request will even be
> considered for approval. I don't agree with this at all, as I think it
> makes the code very ugly, especially enforcing the max line length.
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016, at 03:48 PM, a3a95797 wrote:
>
> Sirs(s)
>
> I wish to have python 2.7 on a computer. I have not been able to get a
> working copy to work on my machine. I am prepared to follow instructions
> or to pay someone to install Python on my computer. Either the Debian or
> the
I tried to install pip following the instructions here:
https://pip.pypa.io/en/stable/installing/
but whenever I tried to run the installer, I got an error. If I ran as a
regular user:
python2.7 get-pip.py
I'd get a permission denied error (as expected) trying to write to the
site-packages dire
We are happy to announce the schedule for EuroPython 2016 in
Bilbao. The program WG has been working hard trying to fit all the
sessions in the last few weeks.
With over 180 sessions, over 150 speakers, one day for workshops, 5
days of talks, training, keynotes, lightning talks and open spaces,
fo
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Stephen Hansen wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016, at 01:51 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> Chris Angelico :
>>
>> > On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> >> It doesn't really matter one way or another. The true WTF is that it's
>> >> been changed.
>>
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016, at 01:51 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Chris Angelico :
>
> > On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> >> It doesn't really matter one way or another. The true WTF is that it's
> >> been changed.
> >
> > Why? Was PEP 8 inscribed on stone tablets carried down fr
On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 06:51 pm, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Chris Angelico :
>
>> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>>> It doesn't really matter one way or another. The true WTF is that it's
>>> been changed.
>>
>> Why? Was PEP 8 inscribed on stone tablets carried down from a moun
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016, 10:56 AM Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Chris Angelico :
>
> > On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Marko Rauhamaa
> wrote:
> >> It doesn't really matter one way or another. The true WTF is that it's
> >> been changed.
> >
> > Why? Was PEP 8 inscribed on stone tablets carried down fro
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016, 9:41 AM durgadevi1 <
srirajarajeswaridevikr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> what does dynamic inputs mean and how is it implemented in python
> programming?
>
In what context did you hear or read the phrase "dynamic inputs"?
>
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On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Chris Angelico :
>
>> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>>> It doesn't really matter one way or another. The true WTF is that it's
>>> been changed.
>>
>> Why? Was PEP 8 inscribed on stone tablets carried down from a mo
list_append = []
with open('filename') as f:
for line in f:
t_line = line.split(' ')
if (t_line[0] == 'ABC'):
print(t_line[1])
list_append.append(t_line[1])
-Original Message-
From: Python-list
[mailto:python-list-bounces+joaquin.alzola=lebara@python.org] On Behalf Of
durgadevi1
Se
Chris Angelico :
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> It doesn't really matter one way or another. The true WTF is that it's
>> been changed.
>
> Why? Was PEP 8 inscribed on stone tablets carried down from a mountain?
In a way, yes.
I don't follow PEP 8 to the tee; probab
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> It doesn't really matter one way or another. The true WTF is that it's
> been changed.
Why? Was PEP 8 inscribed on stone tablets carried down from a mountain?
ChrisA
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Bob Martin :
> in 758117 20160416 053809 Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>Until now, PEP 8 has recommended that multi-line expressions should
>>break *after* infix operators:
>>
>>
>>result = (this_value *
>>some_value +
>>another_value -
>>excess
Hi guys,
what does dynamic inputs mean and how is it implemented in python programming?
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On Friday, April 15, 2016 at 8:13:17 PM UTC+8, durgadevi1 wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I have another homework problem.
>
> I have a textfile. It contains lines of string.
>
> I am required to only print out a certain part of the string.
>
> For example the textfile contain:
>
> ABC X N
> B
in 758117 20160416 053809 Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>Until now, PEP 8 has recommended that multi-line expressions should break
>*after* infix operators:
>
>
>result = (this_value *
>some_value +
>another_value -
>excess_value or
>default_value
>)
>
>
&g
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> Stephen Hansen writes:
>
>> > * You can use named constants from ‘os’ for the purpose of specifying
>> > exit status numbers.
>>
>> Only on *nix.
>
> Hmm, I didn't see that. It seems strange that even the constant for “no
> error” exit status
Stephen Hansen writes:
> > * You can use named constants from ‘os’ for the purpose of specifying
> > exit status numbers.
>
> Only on *nix.
Hmm, I didn't see that. It seems strange that even the constant for “no
error” exit status should be defined only for Unix :-/
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