On Tuesday, 29 December 2015 01:09:30 UTC+9, Adam M wrote:
> On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 10:35:41 AM UTC-5, Brian Simms wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I have done a lot of looking around online to find out how to convert
> > Python files to .exe and .dmg files, but I am confused. Could someone
On 31Dec2015 18:38, MRAB wrote:
On 2015-12-31 18:18, otaksoftspamt...@gmail.com wrote:
I need to check a string over which I have no control for the first 2 non-white
space characters (which should be '[{').
The string would ideally be: '[{...' but could also be something like
' [ { '.
Please provide a few more clues about the problem. What is the problem?
On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 1:05 PM, ebuka ogbonnaya
wrote:
> I use window 7 (32-bit). so i dont know what else to do. please i need a
> solution to that
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On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 12:06 pm, Igor Korot wrote:
> Happy New Year to everybody on those lists. Let this year brings us a
> lot of happiness and joy.
> Lets keep the train rolling and make the upcoming year better.
Thanks Igor!
To lurkers and contributors, newbies and experts, and even the more
e
otaksoftspamt...@gmail.com writes:
> I need to check a string over which I have no control for the first 2
> non-white space characters (which should be '[{').
>
> The string would ideally be: '[{...' but could also be something like
> ' [ { '.
>
> Best to use re and how? Something else?
I
On 31/12/2015 16:12, Mark Lawrence wrote:
"Or, how the Kübler-Ross model aptly applies to Python 3".
http://www.snarky.ca/the-stages-of-the-python-3-transition
I thought I had a need for asyncio and that means Python3. So I started
converting some web facing apps to Python3 for practice and
On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 05:18 am, otaksoftspamt...@gmail.com wrote:
> I need to check a string over which I have no control for the first 2
> non-white space characters (which should be '[{').
>
> The string would ideally be: '[{...' but could also be something like
> ' [ { '.
>
> Best to use
On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 10:25 am, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> Congratulations for writing up one of the most overengineered pile of
> cobblers I've ever seen.
You should get out more.
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Ben Finney :
> Chris Angelico writes:
>> What Steven's actually advocating is removing a difference between
>> Python code and native code.
>
> Sure, but his proposal is to move in the direction of *less* debugging
> information.
>
> If I could have the traceback continue into the C code and tell
On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 31/12/2015 23:27, Ben Finney wrote:
>>
>> Chris Angelico writes:
>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Ben Finney
>>> wrote:
Given how very often such decisions make my debugging tasks
needlessly difficult, I'm not seeing
On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
> Chris Angelico writes:
>
>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Ben Finney
>> wrote:
>> > Given how very often such decisions make my debugging tasks
>> > needlessly difficult, I'm not seeing how that's a desirable feature.
>>
>> What Steven's ac
On 31/12/2015 23:27, Ben Finney wrote:
Chris Angelico writes:
On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
Given how very often such decisions make my debugging tasks
needlessly difficult, I'm not seeing how that's a desirable feature.
What Steven's actually advocating is removing a d
Chris Angelico writes:
> On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
> > Given how very often such decisions make my debugging tasks
> > needlessly difficult, I'm not seeing how that's a desirable feature.
>
> What Steven's actually advocating is removing a difference between
> Python code
On 31/12/2015 18:54, Karim wrote:
On 31/12/2015 19:18, otaksoftspamt...@gmail.com wrote:
I need to check a string over which I have no control for the first 2
non-white space characters (which should be '[{').
The string would ideally be: '[{...' but could also be something like
' [ {
On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
> Oscar Benjamin writes:
>
>> Exactly. The critical technique is looking at the traceback and
>> splitting it between what's your code and what's someone else's.
>> Hopefully you don't need to look at steves_library.py to figure out
>> what you di
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 10:18:52 -0800, otaksoftspamtrap wrote:
> Best to use re and how? Something else?
Split the string on the space character and check the first two non blank
elements of the resulting list?
Maybe something similar to the following:
if [x for x in s.split(' ') if x != ''][0:3]
Steven D'Aprano writes:
> On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 03:12 am, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>
> > http://www.snarky.ca/the-stages-of-the-python-3-transition
>
> Nice link Mark, thanks.
People sometimes ask me how much Python 2 code I'll be maintaining by
the time official Python 2 support ends.
I tell them I c
I use window 7 (32-bit). so i dont know what else to do. please i need a
solution to that
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Oscar Benjamin writes:
> Exactly. The critical technique is looking at the traceback and
> splitting it between what's your code and what's someone else's.
> Hopefully you don't need to look at steves_library.py to figure out
> what you did wrong. However if you do need to look at Steve's code
>
On 12/31/2015 11:24 AM, ebuka ogbonnaya wrote:
my name is Ebuka Egbunine, from Nigeria.I studied Geology and
mining.Actually i downloaded python3.5(32-bit) successfully on my laptop
which operates on 32-bit memory, but the application is not opening, it
displays the message " the program can't st
I would personally use re here.
test_string = ' [{blah blah blah'
matches = re.findall(r'[^\s]', t)
result = ''.join(matches)[:2]
>> '[{'
On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 10:18 AM, wrote:
> I need to check a string over which I have no control for the first 2
> non-white space characters (which should
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 08:24:15 -0800, ebuka ogbonnaya wrote:
> my name is Ebuka Egbunine, from Nigeria.I studied Geology and
> mining.Actually i downloaded python3.5(32-bit) successfully on my laptop
> which operates on 32-bit memory, but the application is not opening, it
> displays the message " t
Thanks much to both of you!
On Thursday, December 31, 2015 at 11:05:26 AM UTC-8, Karim wrote:
> On 31/12/2015 19:54, Karim wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 31/12/2015 19:18, snailp...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> I need to check a string over which I have no control for the first 2
> >> non-white space characters
On 31/12/2015 19:54, Karim wrote:
On 31/12/2015 19:18, otaksoftspamt...@gmail.com wrote:
I need to check a string over which I have no control for the first 2
non-white space characters (which should be '[{').
The string would ideally be: '[{...' but could also be something like
' [ { .
On 31/12/2015 16:24, ebuka ogbonnaya wrote:
my name is Ebuka Egbunine, from Nigeria.I studied Geology and
mining.Actually i downloaded python3.5(32-bit) successfully on my laptop
which operates on 32-bit memory, but the application is not opening, it
displays the message " the program can't start
On 12/31/2015 11:24 AM, ebuka ogbonnaya wrote:
my name is Ebuka Egbunine, from Nigeria.I studied Geology and
mining.Actually i downloaded python3.5(32-bit) successfully on my laptop
which operates on 32-bit memory, but the application is not opening, it
displays the message " the program can't st
On 31/12/2015 19:18, otaksoftspamt...@gmail.com wrote:
I need to check a string over which I have no control for the first 2 non-white
space characters (which should be '[{').
The string would ideally be: '[{...' but could also be something like
' [ { '.
Best to use re and how? Someth
On 2015-12-31 18:18, otaksoftspamt...@gmail.com wrote:
I need to check a string over which I have no control for the first 2 non-white
space characters (which should be '[{').
The string would ideally be: '[{...' but could also be something like
' [ { '.
Best to use re and how? Somethin
I need to check a string over which I have no control for the first 2 non-white
space characters (which should be '[{').
The string would ideally be: '[{...' but could also be something like
' [ { '.
Best to use re and how? Something else?
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my name is Ebuka Egbunine, from Nigeria.I studied Geology and
mining.Actually i downloaded python3.5(32-bit) successfully on my laptop
which operates on 32-bit memory, but the application is not opening, it
displays the message " the program can't start because api-ms-crt
runtime-l1-1-0.dll is miss
On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 03:46 am, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
[...]
> Exactly. The critical technique is looking at the traceback and splitting
> it between what's your code and what's someone else's. Hopefully you don't
> need to look at steves_library.py to figure out what you did wrong.
> However if you d
Hi there,
>>> At worst it actively misleads the user into thinking that there
>>> is a bug in _validate.
Is this "user" a software user or another programmer?
If a software user, then some hint about why the _validate found
unacceptable data might benefit the user's ability to adjust inputs
I'm looking for some advice on handling data collection/analysis in
Python. I do a lot of big, time consuming experiments in which I run a
long data collection (a day or a weekend) in which I sweep a bunch of
variables, then come back offline and try to cut the data into something
that makes sense
On 2015-12-25, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Grant Edwards wrote:
>> And don't get me started on those people who use those "integrated
>> circuits" instead of transistors, relays, and tubes...
>
> Transistors? You don't know how good you had it.
> In my day we had to poke the dopant atoms into
> the sil
On 31 Dec 2015 15:54, "Chris Angelico" wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 2:35 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> >> If the user
> >> can see the stack trace and work back to the point where they passed
> >> something in to your function then how does the extra level hurt?
> >
> > It hurts precisely bec
On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 03:12 am, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> "Or, how the Kübler-Ross model aptly applies to Python 3".
>
> http://www.snarky.ca/the-stages-of-the-python-3-transition
Nice link Mark, thanks.
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On 31.12.2015 01:09, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Obviously this doesn't work now, since raise None is an error, but if it did
> work, what do you think?
I really like the idea. I've approached a similar problem with a similar
solution (also experimented with decorators), but the tracebacks really
ar
"Or, how the Kübler-Ross model aptly applies to Python 3".
http://www.snarky.ca/the-stages-of-the-python-3-transition
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On 31/12/2015 00:09, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I have a lot of functions that perform the same argument checking each time:
def spam(a, b):
if condition(a) or condition(b): raise TypeError
if other_condition(a) or something_else(b): raise ValueError
if whatever(a): raise SomethingErr
On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 2:35 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> If the user
>> can see the stack trace and work back to the point where they passed
>> something in to your function then how does the extra level hurt?
>
> It hurts precisely because it is one extra level. I acknowledge that it is
> *only*
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 11:19 pm, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
> On 31 December 2015 at 04:07, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
[...]
>> As an implementation detail, exposing it to the user (in the form of a
>> line in the stacktrace) doesn't help debugging. At best it is neutral
>> (the user reads the error message
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 10:30 pm, Charles T. Smith wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 11:21:59 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
>
>> Steven D'Aprano writes:
>>
>>> On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 10:13 am, Ben Finney wrote:
>>>
>>> > You may be familiar with other languages where the distinction
>>> > between “attribute of
Hmmm, you seem to be pasting in text from multiple messages, and jumping
around in time ("Ian had said, to which I answered") which may get a bit
confusing. Hopefully I can answer without getting lost :-)
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 10:17 pm, Charles T. Smith wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 10:50:53 +1100,
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 12:12:43 +, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
> When you write x.attr the name 'attr' is looked up on the object x. This
> calls x.__getattribute__('attr'). In turn this checks the dict
> associated with the object x i.e. x.__dict__['attr']. This in turn calls
> x.__dict__.__getitem__
On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 17:31:11 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote:
>> In any case, I thought that class attributes were, in fact, items of
>> __dict__?
>
> That's correct, but as I said in my previous message, self.attrs and
> self.attrs.__dict__ are two different dicts, and you're confusing one
> for the othe
On 31 December 2015 at 04:07, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 12:44 pm, Ben Finney wrote:
>
>> Steven D'Aprano writes:
>>
>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>> File "spam", line 19, in this
>>> File "spam", line 29, in that
>>> File "spam", line 39, in other
>>> File "sp
On 31 December 2015 at 11:30, Charles T. Smith
wrote:
>>> Obviously there is a syntax difference between x.attr and x['key']
>>
>> Not merely syntax; the attributes of an object are not generally
>> available as items of the container.
>
>
> What are the set of ways that an attribute is accessible
"Charles T. Smith" writes:
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 11:21:59 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
>
> > Tersely: the relationship between an object and its attributes, is
> > not the same as the relationship between a dictionary and its items.
>
> I understand this to mean that the relationship between a dictio
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 11:21:59 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano writes:
>
>> On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 10:13 am, Ben Finney wrote:
>>
>> > You may be familiar with other languages where the distinction
>> > between “attribute of an object” is not distinct from “item in a
>> > dictionary”. Pyth
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 10:50:53 +1100, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> I'm not sure what distinction you're referring to, can you explain?
Ian Kelly had said:
>> How precisely are you trying to store these: as an attribute, or as a
>> dict item? If it's supposed to be in the dict, then why is your
>> __ge
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 10:58:17 +1100, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
(some very good information)
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hi team,
I am not sure that disconnect_all() works correctly for task marked as
@parallel
Following is code snippet -
@parallel
def diagnoseTransaction():
with hide('stdout', 'stderr'):
output = run(command)
main.py:
execute(diagnoseTransaction,hosts=hosts_transaction)
disconnect_a
Hi,
Thanks for the reply! I do see different revisions of PEAK-Rules listed on
- http://peak.telecommunity.com/snapshots/.
However, earlier as part our product installation
PEAK-Rules>=0.5a1.dev-r2600 dependency was being fulfilled using
easy_install default behavior. So, I think
https://pypi.pyt
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