On Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 9:17:48 AM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 9:11 PM, zipher wrote:
> > I know. That's because most people have fallen off the path
> > (http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?OneTruePath).
>
> You wrote that, didn't you? I recognize that combination of delusional
> n
On Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 11:47:19 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> >> Yep. I'd also use clear function/procedure names to make it more
> >> visible, and probably tie this in with loops to show how you can print
> >> more than one thing
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
>> Yep. I'd also use clear function/procedure names to make it more
>> visible, and probably tie this in with loops to show how you can print
>> more than one thing but can only return one. (Generators are a more
>> advanced topic.)
>
> [Structur
On Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 10:25:18 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 May 2015 02:05 am, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >
> >> So if you're writing a library function, it probably shouldn't use
> >> print()... but your applicati
"Jia CHEN" writes:
> I have the error below when trying to download the html content of a webpage.
> I can open this webpage in a browser without any problem.
"Connection reset by peer" means that the other side (the HTTP server
in your case) has closed the connection.
It may have looked at th
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Wed, 13 May 2015 03:26 am, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> back when MicroPython was debating the implementation of Unicode
>> strings, there was a lengthy discussion on python-dev about whether
>> it's okay for string subscripting to be O(n
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Wed, 13 May 2015 02:05 am, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> So if you're writing a library function, it probably shouldn't use
>> print()... but your application is most welcome to. You usually know
>> which one you're writing at any given ti
On Wednesday 13 May 2015 02:22, Skip Montanaro wrote:
> I did find this interesting blog post about encapsulation and
> test-driven development:
>
> https://jasonmbaker.wordpress.com/2009/01/08/enemies-of-test-driven-
development-part-i-encapsulation/
>
> I found the author's perspective interes
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 9:11 PM, zipher wrote:
> I know. That's because most people have fallen off the path
> (http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?OneTruePath).
You wrote that, didn't you? I recognize that combination of delusional
narcissism and curious obsession with Turing machines.
> You haven't done
On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 10:43:44 AM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:34 AM, zipher wrote:
> > Name one "significant and important" use case for shadowing built-in types.
> > Functions, I don't have a problem with, but types are more fundamental
> > than functions.
>
On Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 8:00:50 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Why can't a language be designed with a *practical and concrete* need in
> mind? As far as I know, only one language designed from theoretical first
> principles has had any measure of mainstream success, Lisp, and that was
On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 9:30:50 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Wed, 13 May 2015 08:00 am, zipher wrote:
>
> > Everyone gets it wrong and now we have a plethora of languages which all
> > do the same thing, without really knowing what they want as an overarching
> > design or purpose.
>
On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 5:24:34 PM UTC-5, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> zipher :
>
> > That is why you have very high-level languages that allow you to
> > rapidly prototype ideas, test them, and then, depending all the other
> > constraints, move them to lower-level language implementations.
>
> F
On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 1:22:55 PM UTC-5, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 12/05/2015 18:35, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 8:48:13 PM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
> >>
> >> I/O is an essential part of computing in the West. (I'll leave Symbolics
> >> out of of that category.) It sta
On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 8:15:07 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Wed, 13 May 2015 02:05 am, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> > So if you're writing a library function, it probably shouldn't use
> > print()... but your application is most welcome to. You usually know
> > which one you're writing
Steven D'Aprano writes:
> As far as I know, only one language designed from theoretical first
> principles has had any measure of mainstream success, Lisp,
APL was cool back in the day too.
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On Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 7:47:03 AM UTC+5:30, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Rustom Mody writes:
> > You made TRUE into FALSE!!
>
> The answer is: yes! Haskell can do that.
>
>Prelude> let 2+2=5 in 2+2
>5
:-)
And we come back to the OP.
It *looks* like this is some profound question about O
On Wed, 13 May 2015 08:00 am, zipher wrote:
> Everyone gets it wrong and now we have a plethora of languages which all
> do the same thing, without really knowing what they want as an overarching
> design or purpose.
Why must a language be designed with some "overarching design or purpose"?
Why
On Wed, 13 May 2015 04:18 am, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 2:03:04 PM UTC-4, Rob Gaddi wrote:
[...]
>> B) If I can't manage that, what's the etiquette behind having later
>> versions of a module break compatibility with older versions of Python.
>> I've avoided using feature
Rustom Mody writes:
> You made TRUE into FALSE!!
The answer is: yes! Haskell can do that.
Prelude> let 2+2=5 in 2+2
5
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On Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 6:45:07 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Wed, 13 May 2015 02:05 am, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> > So if you're writing a library function, it probably shouldn't use
> > print()... but your application is most welcome to. You usually know
> > which one you're wri
On Wed, 13 May 2015 03:26 am, Chris Angelico wrote:
> back when MicroPython was debating the implementation of Unicode
> strings, there was a lengthy discussion on python-dev about whether
> it's okay for string subscripting to be O(n) instead of O(1), and the
> final decision was that yes, that's
On Wed, 13 May 2015 02:05 am, Chris Angelico wrote:
> So if you're writing a library function, it probably shouldn't use
> print()... but your application is most welcome to. You usually know
> which one you're writing at any given time.
You might be, but beginners are not.
I'm not sure I accept
On Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 6:17:41 AM UTC+5:30, John Ladasky wrote:
> On Monday, May 11, 2015 at 3:16:16 AM UTC-7, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
> > Try overriding None, True or False in python3 and see what happens.
>
> Much fun was able to be had in Python 2, though:
>
> Python 2.7.6 (default,
On Monday, May 11, 2015 at 3:16:16 AM UTC-7, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Try overriding None, True or False in python3 and see what happens.
Much fun was able to be had in Python 2, though:
Python 2.7.6 (default, Mar 22 2014, 22:59:56)
[GCC 4.8.2] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "cre
Antoon Pardon wrote:
But that doesn't answer the question why the developers chose "True" to be a
keyword and "int" to be a looked-up name.
Probably because True, False and None are very frequently
used constants. Making them keywords means that things
like 'while True:' don't incur the overhea
Rob Gaddi writes:
> On Wed, 13 May 2015 08:35:02 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
>
> > Rob Gaddi writes:
> >
> >> B) If I can't manage that, what's the etiquette behind having later
> >> versions of a module break compatibility with older versions of
> >> Python.
> >
> > Consult your user community,
On Wed, 13 May 2015 08:35:02 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
> Rob Gaddi writes:
>
>> B) If I can't manage that, what's the etiquette behind having later
>> versions of a module break compatibility with older versions of Python.
>
> Consult your user community, tell them the issue (maintaining obsolet
On 2015-05-12 23:43, Sayth Renshaw wrote:
why can't I filter a list based on an itertools condition using dropwhile?
This is the docs and the example.
https://docs.python.org/3/library/itertools.html#itertools.dropwhile
def less_than_10(x):
return x < 10
itertools.takewhile(less_than_10,
why can't I filter a list based on an itertools condition using dropwhile?
This is the docs and the example.
https://docs.python.org/3/library/itertools.html#itertools.dropwhile
def less_than_10(x):
return x < 10
itertools.takewhile(less_than_10, itertools.count()) =>
0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6,
Rob Gaddi writes:
> A) Is there any easy way to test against an older version of Python?
The convention today is to use Tox for testing one code base using
multiple Python impleemntations, in a single test run.
https://pypi.python.org/pypi/tox>
> Preferably without trying to install entire
zipher :
> That is why you have very high-level languages that allow you to
> rapidly prototype ideas, test them, and then, depending all the other
> constraints, move them to lower-level language implementations.
Finally an argument to tackle. That rapid prototyping role is often
mentioned as a
On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 12:57:48 PM UTC-5, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 10:45:39 PM UTC+5:30, Stefan Ram wrote:
> > Rob Gaddi writes:
> > >Is that a true array or a linked list? "It's a high level language,
> > >that's just an implementation detail." Yes, but it's an imple
On 12/05/2015 22:56, Grant Murphy wrote:
Please don't top post here it's extremely irritating.
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Ok so.. no PEP needed then..alright then... my plan now goes something
like this:
0. Send this email.
1. Unsubscribe from the python-list. (I don't enjoy the company of trolls).
2. Actually fix the problem and submit a PR.
3. Go have a beer.
Apologies for the multiple emails. I can see how Mark
On 5/12/2015 3:49 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 3:13:32 PM UTC-4, zljubi...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, I have python file with the following structure:
import...
A = configparser.get(...)
B = configparser.get(...)
Command line parameters parsing [they can change variable A o
On 12/05/2015 22:17, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 12/05/2015 20:46, Grant Murphy wrote:
Hi,
When pulling in a dependency via pip it is currently difficult to
reason about
whether there are any vulnerabilities associated with the package
version you
are using. I think the Python package management
On 12/05/2015 20:46, Grant Murphy wrote:
Hi,
When pulling in a dependency via pip it is currently difficult to reason about
whether there are any vulnerabilities associated with the package version you
are using. I think the Python package management infrastructure could be
extended to facilitat
On 05/12/2015 03:58 PM, zljubisic...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 9:49:20 PM UTC+2, Ned Batchelder wrote:
If you need to use globals, assign them inside a parse_arguments
function that has a "global" statement in it.
This advice is consistent with Chris' "define things before
Grant,
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Grant Murphy wrote:
> Hi,
>
> When pulling in a dependency via pip it is currently difficult to reason about
> whether there are any vulnerabilities associated with the package version you
> are using. I think the Python package management infrastructure co
On 5/12/2015 9:56 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
The consensus among the core developers is:
* in general, the harm and inconvenience from accidentally
shadowing built-ins is not great, and it usually easy to
spot, debug and prevent;
* when it comes to built-in functions (e.g. sum, map, pow)
Hi,
When pulling in a dependency via pip it is currently difficult to reason about
whether there are any vulnerabilities associated with the package version you
are using. I think the Python package management infrastructure could be
extended to facilitate this capability reasonably easily. PyPI a
Hi,
When pulling in a dependency via pip it is currently difficult to reason about
whether there are any vulnerabilities associated with the package version you
are using. I think the Python package management infrastructure could be
extended to facilitate this capability reasonably easily. PyPI a
Hi,
When pulling in a dependency via pip it is currently difficult to reason about
whether there are any vulnerabilities associated with the package version you
are using. I think the Python package management infrastructure could be
extended to facilitate this capability reasonably easily. PyPI a
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On 05/11/2015 07:46 AM, Skybuck Flying wrote:
Hello,
Sometimes it can be handy to "interrupt/reset/reposition" a running
script.
For example something externally goes badly wrong.
"
os.kill()
then
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:54 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> Also, I like to put command-line parsing inside the main function and
> make that its *only* responsibility. The main function then calls the
> real entry point of my script, which will be something more
> specifically named. This also has the ad
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:49 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> I would put all of the code into a function some place. Don't have
> anything at the top level of the file except imports, function (and
> class) definitions, and an "if __name__." clause at the bottom.
>
> If you need to use globals, a
On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 9:49:20 PM UTC+2, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 3:13:32 PM UTC-4, zljubi...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Hi, I have python file with the following structure:
> >
> > import...
> >
> > A = configparser.get(...)
> > B = configparser.get(...)
> >
> > Comma
Chris Angelico :
> That's as may be, but I would still not recommend [C] as a first
> language.
I think the field can be approached from many angles successfully. And
any approach will fail many students.
The nice thing about C is that your feet are firmly on the ground.
There's little magic. Yo
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:13 AM, wrote:
>> If I find an error in command line parameters section I cannot call function
>> usage() because it is not defined yet.
>>
>> I have few options here:
>> 1. Put definition of usage function b
On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 3:13:32 PM UTC-4, zljubi...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi, I have python file with the following structure:
>
> import...
>
> A = configparser.get(...)
> B = configparser.get(...)
>
> Command line parameters parsing [they can change variable A or B]
>
> Def usage()
>
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:13 AM, wrote:
> import...
>
> A = configparser.get(...)
> B = configparser.get(...)
>
> Command line parameters parsing [they can change variable A or B]
>
> Def usage()
> Print how to use script parameters
>
> def main():
> ...
>
> if __name__ == "__main
Hi, I have python file with the following structure:
import...
A = configparser.get(...)
B = configparser.get(...)
Command line parameters parsing [they can change variable A or B]
Def usage()
Print how to use script parameters
def main():
...
if __name__ == "__main__":
m
I would say so as well.
Thanks to everyone who helped.
Regards and best wishes.
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On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 2:41:51 PM UTC-4, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote:
> -
> On Tue, May 12, 2015 8:01 PM CEST Rob Gaddi wrote:
>
> >So I've got a package I put up on PyPi a while back (ctypes-bitfield, if
> >it matters). For version 0.2.6 I had access to some older v
-
On Tue, May 12, 2015 8:01 PM CEST Rob Gaddi wrote:
>So I've got a package I put up on PyPi a while back (ctypes-bitfield, if
>it matters). For version 0.2.6 I had access to some older versions of
>Python and was able to run my test suite on Python 2.6 and 3.0.
>
>
On 12/05/2015 18:35, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 8:48:13 PM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
I/O is an essential part of computing in the West. (I'll leave Symbolics out
of of that category.) It started with switches and lights, so what kind of
bullshit is saying that you should g
On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 2:03:04 PM UTC-4, Rob Gaddi wrote:
> So I've got a package I put up on PyPi a while back (ctypes-bitfield, if
> it matters). For version 0.2.6 I had access to some older versions of
> Python and was able to run my test suite on Python 2.6 and 3.0.
>
> Well, I don't h
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 9:34 AM, zipher wrote:
>> * when it comes to built-in functions (e.g. sum, map, pow)
>> and types (e.g. int, str, list) there are significant and
>> important use-cases for allowing shadowing;
>
> Name one "significant and important" use case for shadowing built-in type
So I've got a package I put up on PyPi a while back (ctypes-bitfield, if
it matters). For version 0.2.6 I had access to some older versions of
Python and was able to run my test suite on Python 2.6 and 3.0.
Well, I don't have them anymore. I've got no access right now to
anything older than 2
On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 10:45:39 PM UTC+5:30, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Rob Gaddi writes:
> >Is that a true array or a linked list? "It's a high level language,
> >that's just an implementation detail." Yes, but it's an implementation
> >detail that determines whether even the simple act of lookin
On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 8:48:13 PM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 4:16:31 AM UTC-5, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 12:27:44 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > > > And related to that (and o
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 3:15 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Rob Gaddi writes:
>>Is that a true array or a linked list? "It's a high level language,
>>that's just an implementation detail." Yes, but it's an implementation
>>detail that determines whether even the simple act of looking up element
>>n is
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 3:03 AM, Rob Gaddi
wrote:
> A firm grasp of C will make you a better programmer in any language, even
> if you haven't written a line of it in 20 years. It's the ability to
> read a map. A lack of C is the person blindly following their GPS and
> hoping for the best.
Tha
On Tue, 12 May 2015 08:11:25 -0700, zipher wrote:
> On Monday, May 11, 2015 at 9:04:24 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 May 2015 05:01 am, beliav...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> > Yale has taken the unusual step of outsourcing its introductory CS
>> > class to Harvard, which uses C as the m
On 11 May 2015 at 16:22, Tommy C wrote:
> Thanks for your help.
>
> I have updated the code as follows, there are no more errors but the images
> will not move at all, as all the images are staying at the upper left corner.
> Please advice, thanks.
>
>
> import sys, pygame
>
> pygame.init()
>
>
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:34 AM, zipher wrote:
>> The general principle here is of consenting adults: Python allows you to
>> shadow built-ins because sometimes it is useful, and the good outweighs the
>> potential harm.
>
> I think you'll have to give examples, either from the developer communit
On 12/05/2015 16:43, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:34 AM, zipher wrote:
On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 8:56:32 AM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
* when it comes to built-in functions (e.g. sum, map, pow)
and types (e.g. int, str, list) there are significant and
important us
On 05/12/2015 04:55 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
Op 11-05-15 om 16:13 schreef Chris Angelico:
Why does Python have most built-ins as simply looked-up names that can
be overridden? Because otherwise, there would be a veritable ton of
keywords:
But that doesn't answer the question why the developers
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:53 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
> zipher writes:
>>so what kind of bullshit is saying that you should get rid of PRINT?
>
> What might be reasonable is to be able to dissect a program
> into functions, and have no effects in functions that are
> there to calculate some va
On 12/05/2015 07:42, Rustom Mody wrote:
And related to that (and one reason a pure functional language is good for
pedagogy): NO PRINT statement
It may seem trivial but beginning students have a real hard writing clean
structured code. Tabooing prints helps get there faster
And working in the i
On 5/11/2015 8:42 PM, zipher wrote:
On Monday, May 11, 2015 at 7:25:09 PM UTC-5, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Mon, 11 May 2015 08:33:56 -0700 (PDT), zipher
declaimed the following:
You are making a error that few in the programming community have caught up to. OOP
design for *data abstraction
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:34 AM, zipher wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 8:56:32 AM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> * when it comes to built-in functions (e.g. sum, map, pow)
>> and types (e.g. int, str, list) there are significant and
>> important use-cases for allowing shadowing;
>
> Na
Hi,
I'm using the os.walk function for parsing files from an external mass-storage
such as usbkey.
When i try the following code, i have an error:
from __future__ import unicode_literals
import sys
reload(sys)
sys.setdefaultencoding('utf_8')
for dirname, dirnames, filenames in os.walk(os.path
On 2015-05-12, alex23 wrote:
> On 12/05/2015 1:39 AM, zipher wrote:
>> On Monday, May 11, 2015 at 10:34:24 AM UTC-5, Grant Edwards wrote:
>>> That Python, like COBOL, is an eminently practical language.
>>
>> LOL! Good one.
>
> I would make an incredibly substantial wager that you've never develo
On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 8:56:32 AM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> The consensus among the core developers is:
> * in general, the harm and inconvenience from accidentally
> shadowing built-ins is not great, and it usually easy to
> spot, debug and prevent;
Where is that the consensus? Pl
On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 4:16:31 AM UTC-5, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 12:27:44 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > > And related to that (and one reason a pure functional language is good for
> > > pedagogy): NO PR
On Monday, May 11, 2015 at 9:04:24 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Tue, 12 May 2015 05:01 am, beliav...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Yale has taken the unusual step of outsourcing its introductory CS class
> > to Harvard, which uses C as the main language in its CS50 class.
>
> And another generati
On Tue, 12 May 2015 09:55 pm, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Op 11-05-15 om 16:13 schreef Chris Angelico:
>
>> Why does Python have most built-ins as simply looked-up names that can
>> be overridden? Because otherwise, there would be a veritable ton of
>> keywords:
>
> But that doesn't answer the questi
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tunnel. Here is what i have so far. Not sure where to go from here though.
import paramiko
from sqlalchemy import create_engine
ssh = p
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 4:33 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> $ echo "min_power" | sudo tee
> /sys/class/scsi_host/host*/link_power_management_policy
>
> makes the fan slow/stop.
>
> But I am not sure what it does!!
My guess is it lowers the clock speed. To bring this into the realm of
Python, here's so
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Op 11-05-15 om 17:44 schreef Steven D'Aprano:
> On Mon, 11 May 2015 11:27 pm, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
>> The point is that all too often someone wants to defend a specific choice
>> the developers have made and cites some general rule or principle in
>> support, ignoring the fact that python breaks
On 5/12/15, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 6:31 AM, Fetchinson .
> wrote:
>> I'm looking into a robust solution for web application testing. While
>> selenium is great for the actual testing, I'm thinking of a scheduler
>> as the final piece in the pipeline. Let's say I have 4 we
On 12/05/2015 06:02, alex23 wrote:
On 12/05/2015 1:39 AM, zipher wrote:
On Monday, May 11, 2015 at 10:34:24 AM UTC-5, Grant Edwards wrote:
That Python, like COBOL, is an eminently practical language.
LOL! Good one.
I would make an incredibly substantial wager that you've never developed
an
Op 11-05-15 om 16:13 schreef Chris Angelico:
> Why does Python have most built-ins as simply looked-up names that can
> be overridden? Because otherwise, there would be a veritable ton of
> keywords:
But that doesn't answer the question why the developers chose "True" to be a
keyword and "int" to
Op 11-05-15 om 16:03 schreef Marko Rauhamaa:
> Antoon Pardon :
>
>> The point is that all too often someone wants to defend a specific
>> choice the developers have made and cites some general rule or
>> principle in support, ignoring the fact that python breaks that
>> rule/principle in other are
On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 3:03:53 PM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote:
> For some reason my Dell laptop runs hot and noisy in linux but cool and
> silent in Windows-8
>
> Running
>
> $ echo "min_power" | sudo tee
> /sys/class/scsi_host/host*/link_power_management_policy
>
> makes the fan slow/stop
For some reason my Dell laptop runs hot and noisy in linux but cool and
silent in Windows-8
Running
$ echo "min_power" | sudo tee
/sys/class/scsi_host/host*/link_power_management_policy
makes the fan slow/stop.
But I am not sure what it does!!
[I dont want my laptop fried and its rather HOT ou
On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 12:27:44 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > And related to that (and one reason a pure functional language is good for
> > pedagogy): NO PRINT statement
> > It may seem trivial but beginning students have a real
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 6:31 AM, Fetchinson . wrote:
> I'm looking into a robust solution for web application testing. While
> selenium is great for the actual testing, I'm thinking of a scheduler
> as the final piece in the pipeline. Let's say I have 4 websites that I
> need to test periodically,
I'm looking into a robust solution for web application testing. While
selenium is great for the actual testing, I'm thinking of a scheduler
as the final piece in the pipeline. Let's say I have 4 websites that I
need to test periodically, A, B, C, D. I'd like to be able to define
things like "run th
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