Re: Make Python Compilable, convert to Python source to Go

2014-05-25 Thread Devin Jeanpierre
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 3:24 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 25/05/2014 09:17, bookaa bookaa wrote: >> >> Maybe I will work on Python 3 later. >> > > That's good to know, it'll save me wasting my time looking at it now. This seems like an unnecessarily harsh way of putting it, Mark. Could you be le

Re: win32serviceutil: ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found

2014-05-25 Thread Nagy László Zsolt
2014.05.25. 23:49 keltezéssel, Terry Reedy írta: On 5/25/2014 1:40 PM, Nagy László Zsolt wrote: >>> import win32service Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found I have no problem loading the same module wi

Re: Standard Delay Format (SDF) Parsing

2014-05-25 Thread garg . pankaj83
Hi Steven, did you get the module to parse the sdf file? regards, pankaj -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: os.stat and time zones

2014-05-25 Thread Ben Finney
Nagy László Zsolt writes: > This might be a silly question. Documentation of os.stat: > > > The exact meaning and resolution of the st_atime, st_mtime, and > > st_ctime attributes depend on the operating system and the file > > system. For example, on Windows systems using the FAT or FAT32 file >

Re: Make Python Compilable, convert to Python source to Go

2014-05-25 Thread Ben Finney
bookaa bookaa writes: > Generally, people consider Python as a script language. Count me as one who does not. Python is a general-purpose language. > It has high development efficiency True. > but run too slowly Which Python implementation are you talking about? Run time is not a property of

Build tools, and Python 3 dependencies (was: How keep Python 3 moving forward)

2014-05-25 Thread Ben Finney
Roy Smith writes: > Stefan Behnel wrote: > > > And I don't really see why you would consider fabric a dependency > > that keeps you from switching to Py3. In many cases, you can just > > keep running it in Py2 as you did before. > > In theory, that's possible. In practice, it would mean having t

Re: os.stat and time zones

2014-05-25 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 25May2014 13:47, Nagy László Zsolt wrote: This might be a silly question. Documentation of os.stat: The exact meaning and resolution of the st_atime, st_mtime, and st_ctime attributes depend on the operating system and the file system. For example, on Windows systems using the FAT or FAT32

Re: confused about the different built-in functions in Python

2014-05-25 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 25May2014 15:55, Deb Wyatt wrote: I am confused about how various built-in functions are called. Some are called with dot notation each_item.isalpha() and some are called like 'normal' sum(numlist) How do you know/remember which way to call them? Documentation. However, some context:

Re: Loop thru the dictionary with tuples

2014-05-25 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 5/25/14 10:09 PM, Dave Angel wrote: Ned Batchelder Wrote in message: On 5/25/14 8:55 AM, Igor Korot wrote: Hi, ALL, I have a following data structure: my_dict[(var1,var2,var3)] = None my_dict[(var4,var5,var6)] = 'abc' What I'm trying to do is this: for (key,value) in my_dict: #Do s

Re: confused about the different built-in functions in Python

2014-05-25 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 5/25/14 7:55 PM, Deb Wyatt wrote: I am confused about how various built-in functions are called. Some are called with dot notation each_item.isalpha() and some are called like 'normal' sum(numlist) How do you know/remember which way to call them? TIA, Deb in WA, USA It can be confusing

Re: Loop thru the dictionary with tuples

2014-05-25 Thread Dave Angel
Ned Batchelder Wrote in message: > On 5/25/14 8:55 AM, Igor Korot wrote: >> Hi, ALL, >> I have a following data structure: >> >> my_dict[(var1,var2,var3)] = None >> my_dict[(var4,var5,var6)] = 'abc' >> >> What I'm trying to do is this: >> >> for (key,value) in my_dict: >> #Do some stuff >> >>

Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward

2014-05-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 25 May 2014 18:22:11 Dennis Lee Bieber did opine And Gene did reply: > On Sun, 25 May 2014 11:34:59 -0700, Ethan Furman > > declaimed the following: > >On 05/25/2014 10:38 AM, Rustom Mody wrote: > >> Your unicode is mojibaked Ethan! Voilï؟½. > >> You are hereby banished to a lonely isl

confused about the different built-in functions in Python

2014-05-25 Thread Deb Wyatt
I am confused about how various built-in functions are called.  Some are called with dot notationeach_item.isalpha()and some are called like 'normal'sum(numlist)How do you know/remember which way to call them?TIA,Deb in WA, USA Free Online Photosharing - Share your photos online with your frie

Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward

2014-05-25 Thread Terry Reedy
On 5/25/2014 6:20 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: the mailing list and gmane group may have some spam filters in place but no real moderation. They *do* have spam, structure, and source filters. Please do not mis-inform people that they post most anything to python-list without consequence. --

Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward

2014-05-25 Thread Ethan Furman
On 05/25/2014 03:22 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Sun, 25 May 2014 11:34:59 -0700, Ethan Furman declaimed the following: On 05/25/2014 10:38 AM, Rustom Mody wrote: Your unicode is mojibaked Ethan! Voilà. You are hereby banished to a lonely island with python 1.5 and jmf for company :D

Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward

2014-05-25 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Sun, 25 May 2014 11:34:59 -0700, Ethan Furman > declaimed the following: > >>On 05/25/2014 10:38 AM, Rustom Mody wrote: >>> >>> Your unicode is mojibaked Ethan! Voil�. >>> You are hereby banished to a lonely island with python 1.5

Re: Shared web hosting where python is *not* a second class citizen

2014-05-25 Thread memilanuk
On 05/25/2014 10:29 AM, Tim Golden wrote: On 25/05/2014 18:25, memilanuk wrote: So I'm left wondering if there is someplace that people here would recommend (for this kind of plan or others) where python isn't a second class citizen. Really not interested (for my current uses) in a VPS. I just

Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward

2014-05-25 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 25/05/2014 23:22, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Sun, 25 May 2014 11:34:59 -0700, Ethan Furman declaimed the following: On 05/25/2014 10:38 AM, Rustom Mody wrote: Your unicode is mojibaked Ethan! Voil�. You are hereby banished to a lonely island with python 1.5 and jmf for company :D 1

Re: win32serviceutil: ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found

2014-05-25 Thread Terry Reedy
On 5/25/2014 1:40 PM, Nagy László Zsolt wrote: >>> import win32service Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found I have no problem loading the same module with Python 2.7. So the above is with ??? Strange

Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward

2014-05-25 Thread Ethan Furman
On 05/25/2014 11:56 AM, Tim Chase wrote: Thunderbird does offer the ability to change default character encodings (Edit -> Preferences -> Display -> Formatting tab -> Advanced...) for sending and receiving, but you have to go out of your way to change them to something like UTF-8. On the same p

Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward

2014-05-25 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 25/05/2014 19:34, Ethan Furman wrote: On 05/25/2014 10:38 AM, Rustom Mody wrote: Your unicode is mojibaked Ethan! Voil�. You are hereby banished to a lonely island with python 1.5 and jmf for company :D 1.5 I could live with. :( Surely the company would count as cruel and unusual puni

Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward

2014-05-25 Thread Ethan Furman
On 05/25/2014 10:38 AM, Rustom Mody wrote: Your unicode is mojibaked Ethan! Voil�. You are hereby banished to a lonely island with python 1.5 and jmf for company :D 1.5 I could live with. :( Surely the company would count as cruel and unusual punishment? -- ~Ethan~ -- https://mail.pyt

Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward

2014-05-25 Thread Tim Chase
On 2014-05-25 18:17, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sun, 25 May 2014 10:38:42 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote: > > Your unicode is mojibaked Ethan! Voil�. You are hereby > > banished to a lonely island with python 1.5 and jmf for company :D > > Nope, it's you. Ethan's post is fine. He correctly quotes JM

Re: WSGI

2014-05-25 Thread Chris
On 05/25/2014 12:04 PM, alister wrote: > is your apache server running as root? > if so it probably should be corrected One is running as chris, the others as apache: [root@t-centos1 ~]# ps -ef|grep httpd root 1199 1 0 08:47 ?00:00:01 /usr/sbin/httpd chris 1293 1199 0 09:4

Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward

2014-05-25 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 25 May 2014 10:38:42 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote: > On Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:51:18 PM UTC+5:30, Ethan Furman wrote: >> On 05/24/2014 11:43 PM, jmf wrote: >> > >> > Python and unicode: a buggy hobbyist toy. Voil�. Nothing either >> > good or bad. >> >> >> I thought this was a moderated li

Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward

2014-05-25 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Stefan Behnel wrote: > Ubuntu provides a (partial) Py3 port of boto. As long as the part that's ported includes all the bits of boto we currently need, plus all the bits of boto we haven't yet discovered we need, but will sometime in the future, we're good :-) > And I don't real

win32serviceutil: ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found

2014-05-25 Thread Nagy László Zsolt
>>> import win32service Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found I have no problem loading the same module with Python 2.7. Strange thing is that win32serviceutil.py is part of the pywin32 distribution, so I

Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward

2014-05-25 Thread Rustom Mody
On Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:51:18 PM UTC+5:30, Ethan Furman wrote: > On 05/24/2014 11:43 PM, jmf wrote: > > > > Python and unicode: a buggy hobbyist toy. > > Voil�. Nothing either good or bad. > > > I thought this was a moderated list. What exactly are the moderators doing? Your unicode is moj

Re: Shared web hosting where python is *not* a second class citizen

2014-05-25 Thread Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 7:25 PM, memilanuk wrote: > Right now we have a fairly basic shared hosting plan via bluehost.com, > running WordPress for a club web site. I've looked at setting up python > on this account, but the default is the version of python that comes > with the OS (CentOS 5.x cur

Re: Shared web hosting where python is *not* a second class citizen

2014-05-25 Thread Tim Golden
On 25/05/2014 18:25, memilanuk wrote: Right now we have a fairly basic shared hosting plan via bluehost.com, running WordPress for a club web site. I've looked at setting up python on this account, but the default is the version of python that comes with the OS (CentOS 5.x currently). There are

Shared web hosting where python is *not* a second class citizen

2014-05-25 Thread memilanuk
Right now we have a fairly basic shared hosting plan via bluehost.com, running WordPress for a club web site. I've looked at setting up python on this account, but the default is the version of python that comes with the OS (CentOS 5.x currently). There are some basic instructions on upgrading

Re: How to pass variable through scipts

2014-05-25 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 2:01 AM, wrote: > i want to pass the variables xx and yy to a different script called > application. This script by calling it with import, automatically pop up a > window. I need by clicking the button that is linked with OnB definition to > pop up the window from the

testfixtures 3.1.0 Released!

2014-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Hi All, I'm pleased to announce the release of testfixtures 3.1.0. This is a new feature and bug fix release featuring the following changes: - New RoundComparison object for comparing numbers to a given precision - New 'unless' parameter to ShouldRaise, for situations where an exception is

Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward

2014-05-25 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 25/05/2014 16:21, Ethan Furman wrote: On 05/24/2014 11:43 PM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Python and unicode: a buggy hobbyist toy. Voilà. Nothing either good or bad. I thought this was a moderated list. What exactly are the moderators doing? -- ~Ethan~ I don't think the list is modera

How to pass variable through scipts

2014-05-25 Thread dimmaim
My code has this structure: class Example(wx.Frame,listmix.ColumnSorterMixin): def __init__(self,parent): wx.Frame.__init__(self,parent) self.InitUI() def InitUI(self): . some other functions and other stuff when a button is clicked this function is called and i take

Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward

2014-05-25 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 1:21 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: > On 05/24/2014 11:43 PM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> Python and unicode: a buggy hobbyist toy. >> Voilà. Nothing either good or bad. > > > I thought this was a moderated list. What exactly are the moderators doing? It's not a moderate

Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward

2014-05-25 Thread Ethan Furman
On 05/24/2014 11:43 PM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Python and unicode: a buggy hobbyist toy. Voilà. Nothing either good or bad. I thought this was a moderated list. What exactly are the moderators doing? -- ~Ethan~ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Numpy Array of Sets

2014-05-25 Thread LJ
Thank you very much! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Numpy Array of Sets

2014-05-25 Thread Peter Otten
LJ wrote: > Thank you for the reply. > > So, as long as I access and modify the elements of, for example, > > A=array([[set([])]*4]*3) > > > as (for example): > > a[0][1] = a[0][1] | set([1,2]) > > or: > > a[0][1]=set([1,2]) > > then I should have no problems? As long as you set (i. e. re

RE: compiled cx_freeze

2014-05-25 Thread Joseph L. Casale
> Unfortunately, this is buggy too. Here is a test output from a compiled > console exe created with the above version of cx freeze: Let Christoph know, he is very responsive and extremely helpful. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Numpy Array of Sets

2014-05-25 Thread LJ
Thank you for the reply. So, as long as I access and modify the elements of, for example, A=array([[set([])]*4]*3) as (for example): a[0][1] = a[0][1] | set([1,2]) or: a[0][1]=set([1,2]) then I should have no problems? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Loop thru the dictionary with tuples

2014-05-25 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Roy Smith wrote: > Hint: in this case, > it will happen on the assignment line, so, your next step is to print > everything out and see what's going on: > > for thing in my_dict: > print thing > (key, value) = thing Aside: I know that you (Roy) are still

Re: Loop thru the dictionary with tuples

2014-05-25 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 5/25/14 8:55 AM, Igor Korot wrote: Hi, ALL, I have a following data structure: my_dict[(var1,var2,var3)] = None my_dict[(var4,var5,var6)] = 'abc' What I'm trying to do is this: for (key,value) in my_dict: #Do some stuff but I'm getting an error "Too many values to unpack". What am I

Re: compiled cx_freeze

2014-05-25 Thread Nagy László Zsolt
Anyone knows where to get a compiled cx_freeze that has already has this patch? http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/#cx_freeze Unfortunately, this is buggy too. Here is a test output from a compiled console exe created with the above version of cx freeze: Traceback (most recent call

Re: Numpy Array of Sets

2014-05-25 Thread Peter Otten
LJ wrote: > Wolfgang, thank you very much for your reply. > > Following the example in the link, the problem appears: > A = [[0]*2]*3 You can see this as a shortcut for value = 0 inner = [value, value] A = [inner, inner, inner] When the value is mutable (like your original set) a modific

Re: Loop thru the dictionary with tuples

2014-05-25 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Igor Korot wrote: > for (key,value) in my_dict: > #Do some stuff > > but I'm getting an error "Too many values to unpack". Several people have already given you the right answer, so I'll just suggest a general debugging technique. Break this down into the smallest possible

Re: Loop thru the dictionary with tuples

2014-05-25 Thread Tim Chase
On 2014-05-25 05:59, Paul Rubin wrote: > Igor Korot writes: > > for (key,value) in my_dict: > > #Do some stuff > > > > but I'm getting an error "Too many values to unpack". > > Use > for (key,value) in mydict.iteritems(): ... You can even use for ((k1,k2,k3), value) in mydict.iterite

Re: Loop thru the dictionary with tuples

2014-05-25 Thread Paul Rubin
Igor Korot writes: > for (key,value) in my_dict: > #Do some stuff > > but I'm getting an error "Too many values to unpack". Use for (key,value) in mydict.iteritems(): ... otherwise you loop through just the keys, whicn in your dictionary happens to be 3-tuples. So you try to unpack a 3

RE: compiled cx_freeze

2014-05-25 Thread Joseph L. Casale
> Anyone knows where to get a compiled cx_freeze that has already has this > patch? http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/#cx_freeze -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Loop thru the dictionary with tuples

2014-05-25 Thread Igor Korot
Hi, ALL, I have a following data structure: my_dict[(var1,var2,var3)] = None my_dict[(var4,var5,var6)] = 'abc' What I'm trying to do is this: for (key,value) in my_dict: #Do some stuff but I'm getting an error "Too many values to unpack". What am I doing wrong? Thank you. -- https://mail

Re: Numpy Array of Sets

2014-05-25 Thread LJ
Wolfgang, thank you very much for your reply. Following the example in the link, the problem appears: >>> A = [[0]*2]*3 >>> A [[0, 0], [0, 0], [0, 0]] >>> A[0][0] = 5 >>> A [[5, 0], [5, 0], [5, 0]] Now, if I use a numpy array: >>> d=array([[0]*2]*3) >>> d array([[0, 0], [0, 0], [0

os.stat and time zones

2014-05-25 Thread Nagy László Zsolt
This might be a silly question. Documentation of os.stat: The exact meaning and resolution of the st_atime, st_mtime, and st_ctime attributes depend on the operating system and the file system. For example, on Windows systems using the FAT or FAT32 file systems, st_mtime has 2-second resolutio

Re: Make Python Compilable, convert to Python source to Go

2014-05-25 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 25/05/2014 12:02, mm0fmf wrote: On 25/05/2014 11:24, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 25/05/2014 09:17, bookaa bookaa wrote: Maybe I will work on Python 3 later. That's good to know, it'll save me wasting my time looking at it now. OT: Mark, you've been pro-Python3 enough in your recent postings

Re: Make Python Compilable, convert to Python source to Go

2014-05-25 Thread mm0fmf
On 25/05/2014 11:24, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 25/05/2014 09:17, bookaa bookaa wrote: Maybe I will work on Python 3 later. That's good to know, it'll save me wasting my time looking at it now. OT: Mark, you've been pro-Python3 enough in your recent postings you have forced me to act. I've ju

Re: Make Python Compilable, convert to Python source to Go

2014-05-25 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 25/05/2014 09:17, bookaa bookaa wrote: Maybe I will work on Python 3 later. That's good to know, it'll save me wasting my time looking at it now. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is fr

Re: compiled cx_freeze

2014-05-25 Thread Никола Вукосављевић
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25.5.2014 10:11, Nagy László Zsolt wrote: > Anyone knows where to get a compiled cx_freeze that has already has > this patch? > > http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/7d20e30bd540 > https://bitbucket.org/anthony_tuininga/cx_freeze/issue/81/python-34-v

Re: WSGI (was: Re: Python CGI)

2014-05-25 Thread alister
On Sun, 25 May 2014 09:06:18 +0200, Chris wrote: > On 05/20/2014 03:52 AM, Tim Chase wrote: >> While Burak addressed your (Fast-)CGI issues, once you have a >> test-script successfully giving you output, you can use the >> standard-library's getpass.getuser() function to tell who your script >> is

Re: Make Python Compilable, convert to Python source to Go

2014-05-25 Thread Stefan Behnel
bookaa bookaa, 25.05.2014 10:17: > I think the significance of Python to Go, is it give us opportunity to > make Python project run fast. You shouldn't make that your only goal, because you'll have a really hard time achieving it (to put it mildly). Stefan -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/l

Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward

2014-05-25 Thread Stefan Behnel
Roy Smith, 24.05.2014 01:57: > I installed and ran caniusepython3. It tells me: > >> Finding and checking dependencies ... >> [WARNING] rpclib not found >> >> You need 19 projects to transition to Python 3. >> Of those 19 projects, 17 have no direct dependencies blocking their >> transition: >>

Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward - suds & Python 3

2014-05-25 Thread Jurko Gospodnetić
Hi Roy. On 24.5.2014. 1:57, Roy Smith wrote: You need 19 projects to transition to Python 3. Of those 19 projects, 17 have no direct dependencies blocking their transition: [...snipped...] suds That's a big list. A few of those we could probably work around or replace with a different m

Re: Make Python Compilable, convert to Python source to Go

2014-05-25 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 6:17 PM, bookaa bookaa wrote: >> 1) How compatible is your Python-to-Golang converter with all the >> nuances of Python code? Does it work perfectly on any arbitrary Python >> script? And, what version of Python is it aimed at? > > I try to support all Python syntax, any ar

compiled cx_freeze

2014-05-25 Thread Nagy László Zsolt
Anyone knows where to get a compiled cx_freeze that has already has this patch? http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/7d20e30bd540 https://bitbucket.org/anthony_tuininga/cx_freeze/issue/81/python-34-venv-importlib-attributeerror The installer on the sourceforge site still has this bug. :-( I don't

Re: Make Python Compilable, convert to Python source to Go

2014-05-25 Thread bookaa bookaa
On Sunday, May 25, 2014 12:47:27 PM UTC+8, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 1:06 PM, bookaa wrote: > > > This tool can be called 'Python to GoLang', which translate Python source > > to Golang source. And then you can compile the Go files to executable > > binary. (btw: Go is a ne

WSGI (was: Re: Python CGI)

2014-05-25 Thread Chris
On 05/20/2014 03:52 AM, Tim Chase wrote: > While Burak addressed your (Fast-)CGI issues, once you have a > test-script successfully giving you output, you can use the > standard-library's getpass.getuser() function to tell who your script > is running as. LoadModule wsgi_module modules/mod_wsgi.so

Re: Make Python Compilable, convert to Python source to Go

2014-05-25 Thread wxjmfauth
My opinions about Go. i) go build XXX that creates an exe, one can put on a usb stick and run (distribute) it, is a feature hard to beat. I do not know, if it will be rendered correctly. D:\jm\jmgo>hello3.exe ASCII abcde xyz Germanäöü ÄÖÜ ß Polishąęźżńł Russian абвгдеж эюя CJK

WSGI (was: Re: Python CGI)

2014-05-25 Thread Christian
On 05/20/2014 03:52 AM, Tim Chase wrote: > While Burak addressed your (Fast-)CGI issues, once you have a > test-script successfully giving you output, you can use the > standard-library's getpass.getuser() function to tell who your script > is running as. LoadModule wsgi_module modules/mod_wsgi.so