Fwd: Mailing list erraticness

2013-12-30 Thread Ethan Furman
Accidental off-list reply. :) On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: On 12/30/2013 08:25 PM, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: Wow -- another steaming pile! Mark, are you going for a record? ;) Indeed. Every post that disagree

Re: Blog "about python 3"

2013-12-30 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 31/12/2013 01:09, Chris Angelico wrote: On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: On 12/30/2013 01:29 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 30/12/2013 20:49, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 19:41:44 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: http://alexgaynor.net/2013/dec/30/about-python-

Re: Blog "about python 3"

2013-12-30 Thread Ethan Furman
On 12/30/2013 08:25 PM, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: Wow -- another steaming pile! Mark, are you going for a record? ;) Indeed. Every post that disagrees with my opinion and understanding of the situation is complete BS and a conspiracy to spr

Re: Blog "about python 3"

2013-12-30 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > You never know, we might even end up with a thread whereby the discussion is > Python, the whole Python and nothing but the Python. What, on python-list??! [1] That would be a silly idea. We should avoid such theories with all vigor. ChrisA

Re: Blog "about python 3"

2013-12-30 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 30/12/2013 22:38, Ethan Furman wrote: On 12/30/2013 01:29 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 30/12/2013 20:49, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 19:41:44 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: http://alexgaynor.net/2013/dec/30/about-python-3/ may be of interest to some of you. I don't know whethe

Re: Python 3.3.2 Shell Message

2013-12-30 Thread Stan Ward
Thanks Ned. That did the trick! Jason Briggs, author of Python of Kids, gave me the same answer. Happy to be over this hurdle. Thanks! Happy New Year!! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 2.x and 3.x usage survey

2013-12-30 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 30Dec2013 19:16, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 16:14:53 -0600, Andrew Berg > declaimed the following: > > >On 2013.12.30 15:56, Dan Stromberg wrote: > >> I keep hearing naysayers, nay saying about Python 3.x. > >> > >> Here's a 9 question, multiple choice survey I put togeth

Re: Blog "about python 3"

2013-12-30 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: > On 12/30/2013 01:29 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> >> On 30/12/2013 20:49, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 19:41:44 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: >>> http://alexgaynor.net/2013/dec/30/about-python-3/ may be of interest to >>

Re: Python 2.x and 3.x usage survey

2013-12-30 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Dan Stromberg wrote: > I keep hearing naysayers, nay saying about Python 3.x. > > Here's a 9 question, multiple choice survey I put together about > Python 2.x use vs Python 3.x use. > > I'd be very pleased if you could take 5 or 10 minutes to fill it out. > > Here

Re: Blog "about python 3"

2013-12-30 Thread Ethan Furman
On 12/30/2013 01:29 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 30/12/2013 20:49, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 19:41:44 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: http://alexgaynor.net/2013/dec/30/about-python-3/ may be of interest to some of you. I don't know whether to thank you for the link, or shout at y

Re: Python 2.x and 3.x usage survey

2013-12-30 Thread Andrew Berg
On 2013.12.30 15:56, Dan Stromberg wrote: > I keep hearing naysayers, nay saying about Python 3.x. > > Here's a 9 question, multiple choice survey I put together about > Python 2.x use vs Python 3.x use. > > I'd be very pleased if you could take 5 or 10 minutes to fill it out. > > Here's the URL

Python 2.x and 3.x usage survey

2013-12-30 Thread Dan Stromberg
I keep hearing naysayers, nay saying about Python 3.x. Here's a 9 question, multiple choice survey I put together about Python 2.x use vs Python 3.x use. I'd be very pleased if you could take 5 or 10 minutes to fill it out. Here's the URL: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/N5N5PG2 -- https://mail.

Re: Blog "about python 3"

2013-12-30 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 30/12/2013 20:49, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 19:41:44 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: http://alexgaynor.net/2013/dec/30/about-python-3/ may be of interest to some of you. I don't know whether to thank you for the link, or shout at you for sending eyeballs to look at such a pile

Re: Idle Problems

2013-12-30 Thread bob gailer
On 12/30/2013 1:43 PM, rpuc...@cox.net wrote: Hi I just joined this list and have a question.I have python 3.3.3 and running it on a windows 7 computer.Python has been running good until recently.I can bring up python shell,but when I go to run a recently loaded program,the code comes up briefl

Re: Idle Problems

2013-12-30 Thread Tim Golden
On 30/12/2013 18:43, rpuc...@cox.net wrote: Hi I just joined this list and have a question.I have python 3.3.3 and running it on a windows 7 computer.Python has been running good until recently.I can bring up python shell,but when I go to run a recently loaded program,the code comes up briefly on

Re: Blog "about python 3"

2013-12-30 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 19:41:44 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: > http://alexgaynor.net/2013/dec/30/about-python-3/ may be of interest to > some of you. I don't know whether to thank you for the link, or shout at you for sending eyeballs to look at such a pile of steaming bullshit. I'd like to know wh

Idle Problems

2013-12-30 Thread rpucci2
Hi I just joined this list and have a question.I have python 3.3.3 and running it on a windows 7 computer.Python has been running good until recently.I can bring up python shell,but when I go to run a recently loaded program,the code comes up briefly on the screen and then disappears.Python just

Blog "about python 3"

2013-12-30 Thread Mark Lawrence
http://alexgaynor.net/2013/dec/30/about-python-3/ may be of interest to some of you. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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2013-12-30 Thread Mark Lawrence
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Re: Dictionary

2013-12-30 Thread Walter Hurry
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 18:38:20 +, Bischoop wrote: > I have a txt file with some words, and need simply program that will > print me words containing provided letters. > > For example: > Type the letters: > (I type: g,m,o) > open the dictionary.txt > check words containing:g,m,o in dictio

Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond

2013-12-30 Thread Steven D'Aprano
Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 30/12/2013 17:07, Cousin Stanley wrote: [...] >>> Would you please read and action this >>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython >>> to prevent us seeing the double line spacing above, thanks. >> >> You might consider either turning off an option >> in your ne

Dictionary

2013-12-30 Thread Bischoop
I have a txt file with some words, and need simply program that will print me words containing provided letters. For example: Type the letters: (I type: g,m,o) open the dictionary.txt check words containing:g,m,o in dictionary.txt if there are words containing: ["g", "m", "o" ]

Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond

2013-12-30 Thread Cousin Stanley
>> You might consider either turning off an option >> in your news client for including message in reply >> and/or snipping all but a few lines for context >> to prevent us from seeing the double line spacing >> all over again :-) > Great idea, but one slight snag is > the poster then does

Re: cascading python executions only if return code is 0

2013-12-30 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-12-27, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Ethan Furman wrote: > >> Mostly I don't want newbies thinking "Hey! I can use assertions for all my >> confidence testing!" > > How about this one, that I wrote yesterday; > > assert second >= self.current_second, "time went backwards" >

Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond

2013-12-30 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 30/12/2013 17:07, Cousin Stanley wrote: On 30/12/2013 12:16, matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote: thanks a bunch. the "%.6f" was the cure. can you please point me to the doc for formatting time? Thanks! Would you please read and action this https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsP

Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond

2013-12-30 Thread Cousin Stanley
>> On 30/12/2013 12:16, matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> thanks a bunch. the "%.6f" was the cure. >> can you please point me to the doc for formatting time? >> Thanks! >> > Would you please read and action this > https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython > to prevent

Re: PyDev 3.2.0 Released

2013-12-30 Thread Roy Smith
On Monday, December 30, 2013 8:16:03 AM UTC-5, Fabio Zadrozny wrote: > [lots of stuff] > What is PyDev? > --- > > PyDev is a plugin that enables users to use Eclipse for Python... A suggestion for announcements of this type. Put the "What is X" part up front, so people c

Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond

2013-12-30 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Ned Batchelder wrote: > A float's str() includes two decimal points of precision It's actually weirder than that. What str() appears to do is print some variable number of digits after the decimal place, depending on the magnitude of the number, and then flips over to exponentia

PyDev 3.2.0 Released

2013-12-30 Thread Fabio Zadrozny
Hi All, PyDev 3.2.0 has been released Details on PyDev: http://pydev.org Details on its development: http://pydev.blogspot.com LiClipse (PyDev standalone with goodies such as support for Django Templates, Mako Templates, Html, Javascript, etc): http://brainwy.github.io/liclipse/ Release Highl

Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond

2013-12-30 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 30/12/2013 12:16, matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, December 27, 2013 1:49:54 PM UTC-5, Ned Batchelder wrote: On 12/27/13 1:09 PM, matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, December 27, 2013 11:27:58 AM UTC-5, Roy Smith wrote: In article <0c33b7e4-edc9-4e1e-b919-fec210c92..

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Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond

2013-12-30 Thread matt . doolittle33
On Monday, December 30, 2013 8:01:21 AM UTC-5, Ned Batchelder wrote: > On 12/30/13 7:50 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote: > > > BTW, I said something very similar in this thread 2.5 days ago: > > > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2013-December/663454.html > > > I get the feeling not all me

Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond

2013-12-30 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 12/30/13 7:50 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote: BTW, I said something very similar in this thread 2.5 days ago: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2013-December/663454.html I get the feeling not all messages are flowing to all places. Oops, and now Matt's reply to that message has just ar

Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond

2013-12-30 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 12/29/13 9:44 PM, matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, December 27, 2013 7:25:42 PM UTC-5, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 27Dec2013 07:40, matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote: I am on Ubuntu 12.10. I am still working with the 2 decimal places. Sometime ago i had this issue and I forg

Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond

2013-12-30 Thread matt . doolittle33
On Friday, December 27, 2013 1:49:54 PM UTC-5, Ned Batchelder wrote: > On 12/27/13 1:09 PM, matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Friday, December 27, 2013 11:27:58 AM UTC-5, Roy Smith wrote: > > >> In article <0c33b7e4-edc9-4e1e-b919-fec210c92...@googlegroups.com>, > > >> > > >> matt.do

Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond

2013-12-30 Thread matt . doolittle33
On Friday, December 27, 2013 7:25:42 PM UTC-5, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 27Dec2013 07:40, matt.doolittl...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > I am on Ubuntu 12.10. I am still working with the 2 decimal > > > places. Sometime ago i had this issue and I forget how i solved it. > > > maybe i used datet