Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Neil Hodgson wrote: > Chris Angelico: > > >> I'd be curious to know the sorts of characters used. Given that it's >> probably a narrow-vs-wide Python difference we're talking here, the >> actual distribution of codepoints may well make a difference. > > >I was g

Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

Chris Angelico: I'd be curious to know the sorts of characters used. Given that it's probably a narrow-vs-wide Python difference we're talking here, the actual distribution of codepoints may well make a difference. I was going to upload it but then I thought of potential client -confidenti

Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

Terry Jan Reedy: What system *and* what compiler and compiler options. Unless 3.2 and 3.3 are both compiler with the same compiler and settings, we do not know the source of the difference. The version signatures are: 3.2.3 (default, Apr 11 2012, 07:15:24) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] 3.3.

Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:31:03 +1100, Neil Hodgson wrote: > >> Sorting a million string list (all the file paths on a particular >> computer) went from 0.4 seconds with Python 3.2 to 0.78 with 3.3 so >> we're out of the 'not noticeable by

Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Neil Hodgson wrote: > rusi wrote: >"Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those programs > which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can." In my personal experience, it's calculators. I put command-line calculators into *everything*..

Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On 4/3/2013 1:32 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:31:03 +1100, Neil Hodgson wrote: Sorting a million string list (all the file paths on a particular computer) went from 0.4 seconds with Python 3.2 to 0.78 with 3.3 so we're out of the 'not noticeable by humans' range. Perha

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Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:31:03 +1100, Neil Hodgson wrote: > Sorting a million string list (all the file paths on a particular > computer) went from 0.4 seconds with Python 3.2 to 0.78 with 3.3 so > we're out of the 'not noticeable by humans' range. Perhaps this is still > a 'micro-benchmark' - I

Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On Apr 3, 9:03 am, Neil Hodgson wrote: > rusi wrote: > > ... > >> a 'micro-benchmark' - I'd just like to avoid adding email access to get > >> this over the threshold. > > > What does that last statement mean? > >     Its a reference to a comment by Jamie Zawinski (relatively famous > developer of

Re: Decorating functions without losing their signatures

On 03.04.2013 04:05, Rotwang wrote: Hi all, Here's a Python problem I've come up against and my crappy solution. Hopefully someone here can suggest something better. I want to decorate a bunch of functions with different signatures; for example, I might want to add some keyword-only arguments to

Re: Decorating functions without losing their signatures

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 02:05:31 +0100, Rotwang wrote: > Hi all, > > Here's a Python problem I've come up against and my crappy solution. > Hopefully someone here can suggest something better. I want to decorate > a bunch of functions with different signatures; [...] > After thinking about it for a w

Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

In article <5f8ed721-7c89-4ffd-8f2b-21979cc33...@kk11g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>, rusi wrote: > On Apr 3, 8:31 am, Neil Hodgson wrote: > > >     Sorting a million string list (all the file paths on a particular > > computer) went from 0.4 seconds with Python 3.2 to 0.78 with 3.3 so > > we're o

Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

rusi wrote: ... a 'micro-benchmark' - I'd just like to avoid adding email access to get this over the threshold. What does that last statement mean? Its a reference to a comment by Jamie Zawinski (relatively famous developer of Netscape Navigator and other things): "Every program at

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Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On Apr 3, 8:31 am, Neil Hodgson wrote: >     Sorting a million string list (all the file paths on a particular > computer) went from 0.4 seconds with Python 3.2 to 0.78 with 3.3 so > we're out of the 'not noticeable by humans' range. Perhaps this is still > a 'micro-benchmark' - I'd just like to

Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

Ian Kelly: Micro-benchmarks like the ones you have been reporting are *useful* when it comes to determining what operations can be better optimized, but they are not *important* in and of themselves. What is important is that actual, real-world programs are not significantly slowed by these kin

Re: OSError: [Errno 127] Value too large to be stored in data type

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Decorating functions without losing their signatures

Hi all, Here's a Python problem I've come up against and my crappy solution. Hopefully someone here can suggest something better. I want to decorate a bunch of functions with different signatures; for example, I might want to add some keyword-only arguments to all functions that return instan

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Re: Help

On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 02:02:58 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 02/04/2013 00:56, Walter Hurry wrote: >> On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 15:12:20 -0700, khaosyt wrote: >> >> >> >> Sigh. Another one for the bozo bin. >> >> > I say old chap you're setting yourself up for attacks from the Python > Mailing List Po

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Re: distutils without a compiler

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In article , Jason Swails wrote: > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 6:22 AM, kramer65 wrote: > > > Hello people, > > > > > > I installed python 2.7 on Mac OSX 10.6.8 with no problems and it is > > working fine. When I try to install Kivy however (www.kivy.org), I get an > > error saying: > > > > How

Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

jmfauth writes: > Now replace i by a char, a representent of each "subset" > of the FSR, select a method where this FST behave badly > and take a look of what happen. You insist in cherry-picking a single "method where this FST behave badly", even when it is so obviously a corner case (IMHO it i

Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

The initial post posited: "The Python 3 merge of int and long has effectively penalized small-number arithmetic by removing an optimization. As we've seen from PEP 393 strings (jmf aside), there can be huge benefits from having a single type with multiple representations internally. Is there value

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Re: Fwd: Python subdomains https

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Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On 4/2/2013 11:12 AM, jmfauth wrote: On 2 avr, 16:03, Steven D'Aprano wrote: I'm sure you didn't intend to be insulting, but some of us *have* taken JMF seriously, at least at first. His repeated overblown claims of how Python is destroying Unicode ... ... = 'usability in Python" or some va

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Re: Help installing latest PyQT

Τη Τρίτη, 2 Απριλίου 2013 10:44:43 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Sibylle Koczian έγραψε: > Am 02.04.2013 18:10, schrieb David Robinow: > > > > > > 3)Downloaded and installed "PyQt4-4.10-gpl-Py3.3-Qt5.0.1-x64-2.exe" > > > from http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/software/pyqt/download , > > >

Re: Help installing latest PyQT

I had also installed in the past python 2.7 . Now when im trying to run a .py, interpreter 2.7 is always being called.. (also when im right clicking and sellecting to run in IDLE, 2.7 is agai n starting instead of 3.3) so PyQt4 is crashing. Any tip to make 3.3 the default interpreter plz? -- ht

Re: Help installing latest PyQT

Τη Τρίτη, 2 Απριλίου 2013 6:39:07 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης D. Xenakis έγραψε: > Hi there im trying to install PyQT (version > PyQt4-4.10-gpl-Py3.3-Qt5.0.1-x64-2.exe) but i dont know how to make sure i > have installed everything correctly. I tried to find documentation about this > but most links w

Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:20 AM, jmfauth wrote: > It is somehow funny to see, the FSR "fails" precisely > on problems Unicode will solve/handle, eg normalization or > sorting [3]. Neither of these problems have anything to do with the FSR. Can you give us an example of normalization or sorting wh

Re: Help installing latest PyQT

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Re: Python install Win 7 Problem

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Joe Hill wrote: > On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 11:44:55 -0400, David Robinow > >Download the Windows executables. > > > >3.3.0 is the current version > > Is "numpy" an option that is needed (guess for math?)? > No, it's not needed to run Python. It can be useful. I only me

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Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On Apr 2, 11:22 pm, jmfauth wrote: > On 2 avr, 18:57, rusi wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 2, 8:17 pm, Ethan Furman wrote: > > > > Simmons (too many Steves!), I know you're new so don't have all the > > > history with jmf that many > > > of us do, but consider that the original post was abo

HTTP GET REQUEST WITH PARAMETERS

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Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On 2 avr, 18:57, rusi wrote: > On Apr 2, 8:17 pm, Ethan Furman wrote: > > > Simmons (too many Steves!), I know you're new so don't have all the history > > with jmf that many > > of us do, but consider that the original post was about numbers, had > > nothing to do with > > characters or unicod

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Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On Apr 2, 8:12 pm, jmfauth wrote: > > Sorrry I never claimed this, I'm just seeing on how Python is becoming > less Unicode friendly. jmf: I suggest you try to use less emotionally loaded and more precise language if you want people to pay heed to your technical observations/ contributions. In pa

Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On Apr 2, 8:17 pm, Ethan Furman wrote: > Simmons (too many Steves!), I know you're new so don't have all the history > with jmf that many > of us do, but consider that the original post was about numbers, had nothing > to do with > characters or unicode *in any way*, and yet jmf still felt the

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Re: Tkinter

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Re: Python install Win 7 Problem

On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Joe Hill wrote: > ... > > In a Windows 7 environment (even a 64-bit Windows 7 environment), you > must install the 32-bit version of Python 3. The 64-bit version will not > work with NumPy 1.6. > 1.7 is the current version. I use 32-bit Python myself. > Fu

Re: Help installing latest PyQT

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:39 AM, D. Xenakis wrote: > Hi there im trying to install PyQT (version > PyQt4-4.10-gpl-Py3.3-Qt5.0.1-x64-2.exe) but i dont know how to make sure i > have installed everything correctly. I tried to find documentation about > this but most links were very dead.. > > So fa

Re: OSError: [Errno 127] Value too large to be stored in data type

On Tuesday, April 2, 2013 9:52:14 AM UTC-4, Chris Hulan wrote: > Running Python 2.3.2 on AIX > > getting "OSError: [Errno 127] Value too large to be stored in data type" > > when executing: > > > > os.listdir('/some/NFS/dir') > > > > The error only happens on NFS mounted dirs > > Anyone e

Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On 04/02/2013 07:39 AM, Steve Simmons wrote: On 02/04/2013 15:03, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 11:58:11 +0100, Steve Simmons wrote: It seems to me that jmf *might* be moving towards a vindicated position. There is some interest now in duplicating, understanding and (hopefully!

Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On 02/04/2013 16:12, jmfauth wrote: Sorrry I never claimed this, I'm just seeing on how Python is becoming less Unicode friendly. Please explain this. I see no justification for this comment. How can an implementation that fixes bugs be less Unicode friendly than its earlier, buggier equiv

Help installing latest PyQT

Hi there im trying to install PyQT (version PyQt4-4.10-gpl-Py3.3-Qt5.0.1-x64-2.exe) but i dont know how to make sure i have installed everything correctly. I tried to find documentation about this but most links were very dead.. So far so good.. i have: 1)Downloaded and installed "Python 3.3.0

Re: Tkinter

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Re: extending class static members and inheritance

On 2 April 2013 14:27, Fabian PyDEV wrote: > Hi All, > > I have a question. > > Let says I have the following two classes: > > class Base(object): > __mylist__ = ["value1", "value2"] > > def somemethod(self): > pass > > > class Derived(Base): > __mylist__ =

Re: Tkinter

On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Renato Barbosa Pim Pereira < renato.barbosa.pim.pere...@gmail.com> wrote: > I need to create a button and a text box follows the text box to enter a > number, and this number is expected to create the same screen text boxes, and > these text boxes need to be referen

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Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On 04/02/2013 08:03 AM, Steve Simmons wrote: On 02/04/2013 15:12, Mark Lawrence wrote: I've already raised an issue about performance and Neil Hodgson has raised a new one. Recognised in a separate post To balance this out perhaps we should have counter issues asking for the amount of memor

Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On 2 avr, 16:03, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 11:58:11 +0100, Steve Simmons wrote: > > I'm sure you didn't intend to be insulting, but some of us *have* taken > JMF seriously, at least at first. His repeated overblown claims of how > Python is destroying Unicode ... Sorrry I neve

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If I wanted to get the sum of some numbers (for example: 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 = 15) from the attached program what do I do? Keep in mind that the print statement prints the integers individually. integer = 0 denom = 10 again = "y" #sentinel: while again == "y" or again == "Y": integer = in

Tkinter

I need to create a button and a text box follows the text box to enter a number, and this number is expected to create the same screen text boxes, and these text boxes need to be referenced, ie if I enter 30 in the first text box and click the button to be created 30 text boxes so that I can then "

Help

If I wanted to get the sum of some numbers (for example: 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 = 15) from the attached program what do I do? Keep in mind that the print statement prints the integers individually. integer = 0 denom = 10 again = "y" #sentinel: while again == "y" or again == "Y": integer = input("

Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On 02/04/2013 15:12, Mark Lawrence wrote: I've already raised an issue about performance and Neil Hodgson has raised a new one. Recognised in a separate post To balance this out perhaps we should have counter issues asking for the amount of memory being used to be increased to old levels and

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Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On 02/04/2013 15:39, Steve Simmons wrote: My post was primarily aimed at recognising the work that people like Mark, Neil and others have done to move the problem forward and was intended to help shift the focus to a more productive approach. Again, my apologies if it was ill timed or ill-direct

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Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On 02/04/2013 15:03, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 11:58:11 +0100, Steve Simmons wrote: It seems to me that jmf *might* be moving towards a vindicated position. There is some interest now in duplicating, understanding and (hopefully!) extending his test results, which can only b

Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On 02/04/2013 11:58, Steve Simmons wrote: On 02/04/2013 10:43, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 02/04/2013 10:24, jmfauth wrote: On 2 avr, 10:35, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 19:03:17 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: So what? Who cares if it takes 0.2 second to insert a character inste

Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 11:58:11 +0100, Steve Simmons wrote: > It seems to me that jmf *might* be moving towards a vindicated position. > There is some interest now in duplicating, understanding and > (hopefully!) extending his test results, which can only be a Good Thing > - whatever the outcome and

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Re: Installation on Mac OSX 10.6.8 doesn't create the folder: /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 6:22 AM, kramer65 wrote: > Hello people, > > > I installed python 2.7 on Mac OSX 10.6.8 with no problems and it is > working fine. When I try to install Kivy however (www.kivy.org), I get an > error saying: > How did you install Python 2.7? How did you install Kivy? Not

Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On Apr 2, 3:58 pm, Steve Simmons wrote: > On 02/04/2013 10:43, Mark Lawrence wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 02/04/2013 10:24, jmfauth wrote: > >> On 2 avr, 10:35, Steven D'Aprano >> +comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote: > >>> On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 19:03:17 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > > >>> So wha

Re: extending class static members and inheritance

On 04/02/2013 09:27 AM, Fabian PyDEV wrote: Hi All, I have a question. Let says I have the following two classes: class Base(object): __mylist__ = ["value1", "value2"] def somemethod(self): pass class Derived(Base): __mylist__ = ["value3", "value4"]

extending class static members and inheritance

Hi All, I have a question. Let says I have the following two classes: class Base(object): __mylist__ = ["value1", "value2"] def somemethod(self): pass class Derived(Base): __mylist__ = ["value3", "value4"] def anothermethod(self):

Re: Why does 1**2**3**4**5 raise a MemoryError?

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Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On 02/04/2013 10:43, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 02/04/2013 10:24, jmfauth wrote: On 2 avr, 10:35, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 19:03:17 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: So what? Who cares if it takes 0.2 second to insert a character instead of 0.1 second? That's still a hundre

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Is there a neat way to get distutils to report compiler absence? Most windows users don't have a compiler so building extensions usually doesn't work. However, python's builtin batteries would allow pre-built pyds to be downloaded in lieu of an actual build. Has anyone created a fallback down

Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On 02/04/2013 10:24, jmfauth wrote: On 2 avr, 10:35, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 19:03:17 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: So what? Who cares if it takes 0.2 second to insert a character instead of 0.1 second? That's still a hundred times faster than you can type.

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Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

jmfauth: 3.2.3 (default, Apr 11 2012, 07:15:24) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] [0.8343414906182101, 0.8336184057396241, 0.8330473419738562] 3.3.0 (v3.3.0:bd8afb90ebf2, Sep 29 2012, 10:55:48) [MSC v.1600 32 bit [1.3840254166697845, 1.3933888932429768, 1.391664674507438] That's a larger performa

Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On 2 avr, 10:03, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 6:24 PM, jmfauth wrote: > > An editor may reflect very well the example a gave. You enter > > thousand ascii chars, then - boum - as you enter a non ascii > > char, your editor (assuming is uses a mechanism like the FSR), > > has to

Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On 2 avr, 10:35, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 19:03:17 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > > So what? Who cares if it takes 0.2 second to insert a character > instead of 0.1 second? That's still a hundred times faster than you > can type. > - This not the problem. The i

Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 19:03:17 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 6:24 PM, jmfauth wrote: >> An editor may reflect very well the example a gave. You enter thousand >> ascii chars, then - boum - as you enter a non ascii char, your editor >> (assuming is uses a mechanism like the F

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Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 6:24 PM, jmfauth wrote: > An editor may reflect very well the example a gave. You enter > thousand ascii chars, then - boum - as you enter a non ascii > char, your editor (assuming is uses a mechanism like the FSR), > has to internally reencode everything! That assumes that

Re: Why does 1**2**3**4**5 raise a MemoryError?

On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 00:39:56 +, Alex wrote: > Given that > > 3 > 5 > 4 > > (i.e.: 4**5**3) is transitive, I think you meant "associative", and exponentiation isn't associative, i.e. (x**y)**z is not, in general, equal to x**(y**z). In fact, (x**y)**z is equal to x**(y*z). Conventional m

Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3

On 2 avr, 01:43, Neil Hodgson wrote: > Mark Lawrence: > > > You've given many examples of the same type of micro benchmark, not many > > examples of different types of benchmark. > >     Trying to work out what jmfauth is on about I found what appears to > be a performance regression with '<' stri