On 3/18/2013 9:52 PM, Yves S. Garret wrote:
Ok, it now seems to work. Weird. I had tk-dev installed (it seems)
and then after I re-compiled my interpreter just now, it's working.
If your previous compilation was before tk-dev was installed, it will
not have compiled _tkinter properly. On PC
From: Mark Janssen
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 4:41 PM
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Andrew Barnert
> wrote:
>> Have you even looked at a message-passing language?
>>
>> A Smalltalk "message" is a selector and a sequence of arguments.
> That's what you send around. Newer dynamic-typ
On 3/18/2013 8:55 AM, John Rowland wrote:
For just today, the book "Learn Python Quickly" is free to download
from Amazon. Also, go to www.learnpythonquickly.com for more
information.
I just 'bought' this to see if it is something I would recommend. I
turned first to the IDLE section. A couple
On 3/18/2013 5:17 PM, Peng Yu wrote:
Hi,
I don't quite understand how -m option is used. And it is difficult to
search for -m in google. Could anybody provide me with an example on
how to use this option?
python -m test
at a command line runs the regression tests in the test package
python -m
On Mar 19, 11:57 am, NZach wrote:
> The problem is that i am executing the main() function in lines 83 and 90,
> but
> i do not receive the same result, although the random seed is used in the G
> class.
>
> Any idea please, how can i solve it ?
The seed is used to create a Random instance at
Hi,
By default, setup.py will install everything in the source directory.
I want mask some directories so that they will not be installed. Is
there a way to do so in setup.py?
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On Monday, March 18, 2013 6:57:30 PM UTC-7, NZach wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> i am using the MMK.py example from a SimPy tutorial, which can be found here:
> http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/156/PLN/DESimIntro.pdf
>
>
>
> I have made very little changes to the code and i have uplo
Hello everyone,
i am using the MMK.py example from a SimPy tutorial, which can be found here:
http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/156/PLN/DESimIntro.pdf
I have made very little changes to the code and i have upload it here:
http://codeviewer.org/view/code:30d3
The problem is that i am execut
On Monday, March 18, 2013 2:39:57 PM UTC-4, Lele Gaifax wrote:
> "Yves S. Garret" writes:
>
> > I have. This is what I did and the result that I'm seeing.
> >
> > $ sudo apt-get install python3-tk
>
> You installed a "custom" python 3.3, didn't you? So it does not help
> installing Ubuntu's pyt
On Mar 18, 12:33 pm, Roy Smith wrote:
> Google's motto may be "don't be evil", but they get to define what evil
> is. Apparently working and playing well with mailing list technology
> which has worked just fine for literally decades isn't part of the
> definition.
Their decision to scrap Reader
On 18/03/2013 23:51, eli m wrote:
Any other ideas?
How about coming up with a new message passing syntax for objects? I
understand from recent postings that this should be fairly easy :)
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On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Andrew Barnert wrote:
> Have you even looked at a message-passing language?
>
> A Smalltalk "message" is a selector and a sequence of arguments. That's what
> you send around. Newer dynamic-typed message-passing OO and actor languages
> are basically the same as
On Monday, March 18, 2013 3:24:57 PM UTC-5, Alex Gardner wrote:
> On Saturday, March 2, 2013 7:56:31 PM UTC-6, Alex Gardner wrote:
>
> > I am in the process of making a pong game in python using the pygame
> > library. My current problem is that when I move the mouse, it turns off as
> > soon a
>> Hi,
>>
>> I don't quite understand how -m option is used. And it is difficult to
>> search for -m in google. Could anybody provide me with an example on
>> how to use this option? Thanks!
>>
>>-m module-name
>> Searches sys.path for the named module and runs the
>> correspo
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Peng Yu wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I don't quite understand how -m option is used. And it is difficult to
> search for -m in google. Could anybody provide me with an example on
> how to use this option? Thanks!
>
>-m module-name
> Searches sys.path for
Hi,
I don't quite understand how -m option is used. And it is difficult to
search for -m in google. Could anybody provide me with an example on
how to use this option? Thanks!
-m module-name
Searches sys.path for the named module and runs the
corresponding .py file as a scrip
HI,
NB: I've posted this question on Reddit as well (but didn't get many responses
from Pythonistas) - hope it's ok if I post here as well.
We currently use a collection of custom Python scripts to validate various
things in our production environment/configuration.
Many of these are simple XM
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Mark Janssen wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Georg Brandl wrote:
>> Am 18.03.2013 05:26, schrieb Mark Janssen:
>>> Continuing on this thread, there would be a new bunch of behaviors to
>>> be defined. Since "everything is an object", there can now be a
On Saturday, March 2, 2013 7:56:31 PM UTC-6, Alex Gardner wrote:
> I am in the process of making a pong game in python using the pygame library.
> My current problem is that when I move the mouse, it turns off as soon as
> the mouse stops moving. The way I am doing this is by making the default
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Georg Brandl wrote:
> Am 18.03.2013 05:26, schrieb Mark Janssen:
>> Continuing on this thread, there would be a new bunch of behaviors to
>> be defined. Since "everything is an object", there can now be a
>> standard way to define the *next* common abstraction of
8 Dihedral writes:
> zipher於 2013年3月19日星期二UTC+8上午1時04分36秒寫道：
>> the key conceptual shift is that by enforcing a syntax that moves
>> away from invoking methods and move to message passing between
>> objects, you're automatically enforcing a more modular approach.
>
> Please check object pasca
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Yves S. Garret
wrote:
> *facepalm*
>
> Yep, I see it :) . Thanks for your help.
Glad to be of service. Welcome to a life of programming, where the
palm meets the face on a regular basis... more frequently if you use
Microsoft Windows, tar, non-eight-bit-clean tra
Am 18.03.13 20:00, schrieb Ana Dionísio:
But I still get the error and I use Excel 2010.
I'm trying to export data in a list to Excel
Unless you tell *how exactly* do you export the data into excel format,
we probably can't help you. You could try to write a .csv ASCII file,
for instance.
Am 18.03.2013 16:28, schrieb Ana Dionísio:
Is there some way to go around this limit? I need to import data from python to
excel and I need 1440 columns for that.
There are many versions of Excel. The recent ones can handle more than
256 columns. If your version doesn't, then Python won't help
But I still get the error and I use Excel 2010.
I'm trying to export data in a list to Excel
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"Yves S. Garret" writes:
> I have. This is what I did and the result that I'm seeing.
>
> $ sudo apt-get install python3-tk
You installed a "custom" python 3.3, didn't you? So it does not help
installing Ubuntu's python3-tk: your python3.3 interpreter won't even
look into "system" packages.
Mo
I have. This is what I did and the result that I'm seeing.
$ sudo apt-get install python3-tk
[sudo] password for ysg:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
python3-tk is already the newest version.
python3-tk set to manually installed.
0 upgraded
> You're dreaming of a utopia where computers just read our minds and
> know what we're thinking. So what if I can pass 42 into an object.
> What do I intend to happen with that 42? Do I want to add the element
> to a list? Access the 42nd element? Delete the 42nd element? Let the
> object pick a b
zipher於 2013年3月19日星期二UTC+8上午1時04分36秒寫道：
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 11:46 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
> > I am very interested in this as a concept, although I must admit I'm not
>
> > entirely sure what you mean by it. I've read your comment on the link above,
>
> > and subsequent emails in thi
Seems tkinter is missing in standard installation in ubuntu. Try:
sudo apt-get install python3-tk
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Yves S. Garret
wrote:
> Hi. I'm having a problem trying to get this to work well. Basically,
> whenever I try to
> import tkinter, this is the issue that I have:
>
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:50:21 +0100, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 08:28:46 -0700, Ana Dionísio wrote:
Is there some way to go around this limit? I need to import data from
python to excel and I need 1440 columns for that.
That's an Excel question, it has nothing to do with Py
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Mark Janssen
wrote:
>> Ian Cordasco wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Mark Janssen
>>> wrote:
>>>
Hello,
I just posted an answers on quora.com about OOP (http://qr.ae/TM1Vb)
and wanted to engage the python community on the subje
> Ian Cordasco wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Mark Janssen
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I just posted an answers on quora.com about OOP (http://qr.ae/TM1Vb)
>>> and wanted to engage the python community on the subject.
>
>
> My answer to that question would be that it *did*
> ca
Hi. I'm having a problem trying to get this to work well. Basically,
whenever I try to
import tkinter, this is the issue that I have:
>>> import tkinter
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.3/tkinter/__init__.py", line 40, in
import _tkint
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 11:46 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> I am very interested in this as a concept, although I must admit I'm not
> entirely sure what you mean by it. I've read your comment on the link above,
> and subsequent emails in this thread, and I'm afraid I don't understand what
> you me
On 2013-03-18, Dave Angel wrote:
> On 03/18/2013 11:28 AM, Ana Dion?sio wrote:
>
>> Is there some way to go around this limit? I need to import data from
>> python to excel and I need 1440 columns for that.
>
> Doesn't sound like a Python question. But one answer is Libre Office
> Calc, which se
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 08:28:46 -0700, Ana Dionísio wrote:
> Is there some way to go around this limit? I need to import data from
> python to excel and I need 1440 columns for that.
That's an Excel question, it has nothing to do with Python.
Have you considered using something other than Excel? As
On 03/18/2013 11:28 AM, Ana Dionísio wrote:
Is there some way to go around this limit? I need to import data from python to
excel and I need 1440 columns for that.
Doesn't sound like a Python question. But one answer is Libre Office
Calc, which seems to have a 1024 column limit.
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On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> A third weakness is that you can't allow for arrivals more than 12 hours
> early or late.
Oh, but that'll NEVER happen.
Oh wait, I've been on a service that was 12 hours late.
Is there any chance that you could do your times of arrival a
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:26:16 +0530, Santosh Kumar wrote:
> This simple script is about a public transport, here is the code:
>
> def report_status(should_be_on, came_on):
> if should_be_on < 0.0 or should_be_on > 24.0 or came_on < 0.0 or
> came_on > 24.0:
> return 'time not in range'
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:32:03 +0100, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote:
> You can remove the 'if' line, report_status asks for hours, the caller
> is supposed to provide valid hours. What if the caller gives you
> strings, integer, floats ? This is a never ending story.
I see you haven't been a program
Duncan Booth writes:
> Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
>
> >> Any tips are welcome.
> >
> > A double tip:
> >
> > if (not (0.0 <= should_be_on <= 24.0) or
> > not (0.0 <= came_on <= 24.0)):
> >...
> >
> Or even:
>
> if not (0.0 <= should_be_on <= 24.0 and 0.0 <= came_on <= 24.0):
>
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 1:23 AM, Mark Shroyer wrote:
> I realize this isn't yet precisely what you're asking for, but look at the
> inspect and ast modules:
>
> import ast, inspect
>
> def indent_level():
> lineno = inspect.currentframe().f_back.f_lineno
>
> with open(__fi
Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
>> Any tips are welcome.
>
> A double tip:
>
> if (not (0.0 <= should_be_on <= 24.0) or
> not (0.0 <= came_on <= 24.0)):
>...
>
Or even:
if not (0.0 <= should_be_on <= 24.0 and 0.0 <= came_on <= 24.0):
...
> You might want to raise an exception fr
Thank you Chris, Michel and Steven for your feedback.
Steven, yes I realised that the examples are faulty. I intended to use
variables instead of string literals. I will be careful next time.
On 3/18/13, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:00:15 +0530, Laxmikant Chitare wrote:
>
>> H
On Monday, March 18, 2013 9:56:16 AM UTC-4, Santosh Kumar wrote:
> This simple script is about a public transport, here is the code:
>
>
>
> def report_status(should_be_on, came_on):
>
> if should_be_on < 0.0 or should_be_on > 24.0 or came_on < 0.0 or
>
> came_on > 24.0:
>
> retur
- Original Message -
> This simple script is about a public transport, here is the code:
>
> def report_status(should_be_on, came_on):
> if should_be_on < 0.0 or should_be_on > 24.0 or came_on < 0.0 or
> came_on > 24.0:
> return 'time not in range'
> elif should_be_on == ca
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:00:15 +0530, Laxmikant Chitare wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a program that picks module and method name from a configuration
> file and executes the method. I have found two ways to achieve this.
>
> Apporach 1:
> ---
> moduleName = 'mymodule'#These
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:28:37 +0530, Laxmikant Chitare wrote:
> Aha, that was smart Chris. Thank you.
>
> But this raises another question in my mind. What is the use case for
> operator.methodcaller ?
The use-case is mostly to allow people to write code in a functional
style, if they so choose
What about this one:
if 0.0 < should_be_on > 24.0 or 0.0 < came_on > 24.0:
Regards,
Laxmikant
On 3/18/13, Santosh Kumar wrote:
> This simple script is about a public transport, here is the code:
>
> def report_status(should_be_on, came_on):
> if should_be_on < 0.0 or should_be_on > 24.0 or c
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Santosh Kumar wrote:
> This simple script is about a public transport, here is the code:
>
> def report_status(should_be_on, came_on):
> if should_be_on < 0.0 or should_be_on > 24.0 or came_on < 0.0 or
> came_on > 24.0:
> return 'time not in range'
>
Santosh Kumar writes:
> This simple script is about a public transport, here is the code:
>
> def report_status(should_be_on, came_on):
> if should_be_on < 0.0 or should_be_on > 24.0 or came_on < 0.0 or
> came_on > 24.0:
> return 'time not in range'
> elif should_be_on == came_on
Am 17.03.2013 16:50, schrieb rusi:
About your python I cant say, but your English looks/sounds as good as
a native's.
So dont waste your time getting that right; its good enough!
Thank you. Flowers go to Dorothy L. Sayers, most of them. As far as Dabo
is concerned, at the moment I just have to
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:58 AM, Laxmikant Chitare
wrote:
> Aha, that was smart Chris. Thank you.
>
> But this raises another question in my mind. What is the use case for
> operator.methodcaller ?
Most of the operator module is functional versions of what can be done
elsewhere with operators. T
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:58 AM, Jean-Michel Pichavant
wrote:
> myFunc = getattr(myModule, methodName)
Doh! Thanks. I knew there was a shorter way of spelling it, rather
than digging with dunder methods. That's the way I would recommend -
slight tweak from the __getattribute__ version.
ChrisA
-
- Original Message -
> Hi,
>
> I have a program that picks module and method name from a
> configuration file and executes the method. I have found two ways to
> achieve this.
>
> Apporach 1:
> ---
> moduleName = 'mymodule'#These two variables are read from con
Aha, that was smart Chris. Thank you.
But this raises another question in my mind. What is the use case for
operator.methodcaller ?
On 3/18/13, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:30 AM, Laxmikant Chitare
> wrote:
>> moduleName = 'mymodule'#These two variables are read from c
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:56:07 -0500, Peng Yu wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> man python says "If a script argument is given, the directory
>> containing the script is inserted in the path in front of $PYTHONPATH.
>> The search path can be manipula
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:30 AM, Laxmikant Chitare
wrote:
> moduleName = 'mymodule'#These two variables are read from conf file.
> methodName = 'mymethod'
>
> import operator
> myModule = __import__('mymodule')
> myMethod = operator.methodcaller('mymethod')
> val = myMethod(myModule)
> print
Hi,
I have a program that picks module and method name from a
configuration file and executes the method. I have found two ways to
achieve this.
Apporach 1:
---
moduleName = 'mymodule'#These two variables are read from conf file.
methodName = 'mymethod'
import operato
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On 03/17/2013 10:14 PM, Yves S. Garret wrote:
I don't get why it's posting what I said twice...
Because you're using googlegroups, and haven't unchecked some poorly
defined default setting. You're posting both to python-list and to
comp.lang.python, each of which is mirrored to the other.
On 03/17/2013 11:56 PM, Peng Yu wrote:
Hi,
man python says "If a script argument is given, the directory
containing the script is inserted in the path in front of $PYTHONPATH.
The search path can be manipulated from within a Python program as
the variable sys.path." Instead I want to have t
moonhkt wrote:
> How to display
> e4b8ad for 中 in python ?
Python 2
>>> print u"中".encode("utf-8").encode("hex")
e4b8ad
Python 3
>>> print(binascii.b2a_hex("中".encode("utf-8")).decode("ascii"))
e4b8ad
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File have China Made
中國 製
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/4e2d/index.htm
UTF-16 (hex)0x4E2D (4e2d)
UTF-8 (hex) 0xE4 0xB8 0xAD (e4b8ad)
Read by od -cx utf_a.text
000 中 ** ** 國 ** ** 製 ** ** \n
e4b8ade59c8be8a3bd0a
012
Read by py
So, by introducing this collaboration mechanism with a syntax that defines it
as sending and receiving things that are *not* arbitrary objects, the language
would naturally reinforce a more thoroughly decoupled architecture?
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 17, 2013, at 8:53 PM, Mark Janssen wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:31:33 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Frank Millman
> wrote:
>> Hi all
>>
>> I know that you cannot rely on the order of keys in a dictionary, and I
>> am not attempting to do so.
>>
>> Nevertheless, the following surprised me. A program crea
Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Frank Millman wrote:
>> Hi all
>>
>> I know that you cannot rely on the order of keys in a dictionary, and I
>> am not attempting to do so.
>>
>> Nevertheless, the following surprised me. A program creates a dictionary
>> with a known set o
On 18/03/2013 09:31, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Frank Millman wrote:
Hi all
I know that you cannot rely on the order of keys in a dictionary, and I am
not attempting to do so.
Nevertheless, the following surprised me. A program creates a dictionary
with a known set
On Mar 18, 8:56 am, Peng Yu wrote:
> Hi,
>
> man python says "If a script argument is given, the directory
> containing the script is inserted in the path in front of $PYTHONPATH.
> The search path can be manipulated from within a Python program as
> the variable sys.path." Instead I want to
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Frank Millman wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I know that you cannot rely on the order of keys in a dictionary, and I am
> not attempting to do so.
>
> Nevertheless, the following surprised me. A program creates a dictionary
> with a known set of keys. I would have thought tha
Hi all
I know that you cannot rely on the order of keys in a dictionary, and I
am not attempting to do so.
Nevertheless, the following surprised me. A program creates a dictionary
with a known set of keys. I would have thought that multiple runs of the
program would return the keys in the sa
On 2013-03-18, Mark Janssen wrote:
> Alan Kay's idea of message-passing in Smalltalk are interesting, and
> like the questioner says, never took off. My answer was that Alan
> Kay's abstraction of "Everything is an object" fails because you can't
> have message-passing, an I/O task, working in th
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