Re: [Offtopic] Line fitting [was Re: Numpy outlier removal]

2013-01-08 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 07:14:51 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > Three types of lies. Oh, surely more than that. White lies. Regular or garden variety lies. Malicious lies. Accidental or innocent lies. FUD -- "fear, uncertainty, doubt". Half-truths. Lying by omission. Exaggeration and underst

Re: ANN: PyDTLS

2013-01-08 Thread rbit
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > But don't you have to deal with that when doing synchronous I/O as > well? It's a datagram protocol after all. No: when dealing with blocking sockets, the OpenSSL library activates its own retransmission timers, and the application never b

Re: ANN: PyDTLS

2013-01-08 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:39 PM, rbit wrote: > Thank you. I will gladly port to Python 3 if there is interest from > the community. Python 3 is where it's at! :-) > Regarding PEP 3156: asynchronous use of unreliable network protocols > makes for an interesting use case. In particular, it forces >

Re: ANN: PyDTLS

2013-01-08 Thread rbit
Thank you. I will gladly port to Python 3 if there is interest from the community. Regarding PEP 3156: asynchronous use of unreliable network protocols makes for an interesting use case. In particular, it forces applications to deal with packet loss under some circumstances. One such situation occ

Re: How to implement mouse gesture by python or pyqt ?

2013-01-08 Thread iMath
在 2013年1月8日星期二UTC+8上午8时44分20秒,iMath写道: > It would be better to give me some examples .thanks in advance ! > > > > P.S. which module or lib are needed ? what I wanna perhaps like this: when a right mouse button is pressed and we go down and right with a cursor. As in letter 'L'. Our mouse gestu

Re: How to get the selected text of the webpage in chrome through python ?

2013-01-08 Thread iMath
在 2013年1月8日星期二UTC+8下午9时11分30秒,Dave Angel写道: > On 01/08/2013 07:38 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > > > On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 20:20:28 -0800 (PST), iMath > > > declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: > > > > > >> How to get the selected text of the webpage in chrome through python ? >

Re: How to get the selected text of the webpage in chrome through python ?

2013-01-08 Thread iMath
在 2013年1月8日星期二UTC+8下午9时19分51秒,Bruno Dupuis写道: > On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 08:20:28PM -0800, iMath wrote: > > > How to get the selected text of the webpage in chrome through python ? > > > > What you need is a way to get selected text from wherever it comes. The > > way to do this depends on your

Re: [Offtopic] Line fitting [was Re: Numpy outlier removal]

2013-01-08 Thread Jason Friedman
> Statistical analysis is a huge science. So is lying. And I'm not sure > most people can pick one from the other. Chris, your sentence causes me to think of Mr. Twain's sentence, or at least the one he popularized: http://www.twainquotes.com/Statistics.html. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/lis

Re: [Offtopic] Line fitting [was Re: Numpy outlier removal]

2013-01-08 Thread Jason Friedman
> Statistical analysis is a huge science. So is lying. And I'm not sure > most people can pick one from the other. Chris, your sentence causes me to think of Mr. Twain's sentence, or at least the one he popularized: http://www.twainquotes.com/Statistics.html. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/lis

Re: Best way to do this? List loop (matrix?) iteration

2013-01-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:19 AM, wrote: >stn_count = len(stn_list_short) >for rowcount in range (0, stn_count): > for colcount in range (0, stn_count): > print stn_list_long[rowcount] stn_list_long[colcount] First off, you can iterate over the list directly: for row in st

Re: Specifying two log files with one configuration file

2013-01-08 Thread Vinay Sajip
Peter Steele gmail.com> writes: > I have been unable to get this to work. My current conf file looks like this: Try with the following changes: [logger_test] level: DEBUG handlers: test propagate: 0 qualname: test The qualname: test is what identifies the logger as the logger named 'test', and

Re: Best way to do this? List loop (matrix?) iteration

2013-01-08 Thread Mitya Sirenef
On Tue 08 Jan 2013 07:19:59 PM EST, andydtay...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I might be missing the obvious, or I may have found something more complicated than the VBA I am used to. Could it be I need to use a maths library? For a given list of k items I'd like to turn it into an k*k matrix of item

Re: [Offtopic] Line fitting [was Re: Numpy outlier removal]

2013-01-08 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 04:07:08 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote: >> But that is not fitting a line by eye, which is what I am talking >> about. > > With the line constrained to go through 0,0 a line eyeballed with a > clear ruler could easily be better than either regression line, as a > human will tend t

Best way to do this? List loop (matrix?) iteration

2013-01-08 Thread andydtaylor
Hi! I might be missing the obvious, or I may have found something more complicated than the VBA I am used to. Could it be I need to use a maths library? For a given list of k items I'd like to turn it into an k*k matrix of item pairs. List_sample = ['a', 'b', 'c'] Output: aa ab ac ba bb bc c

Re: Searching through two logfiles in parallel?

2013-01-08 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On 8 January 2013 19:16, darnold wrote: > i don't think in iterators (yet), so this is a bit wordy. > same basic idea, though: for each message (set of parameters), build a > list of transactions consisting of matching send/receive times. The advantage of an iterator based solution is that we can

Re: [Offtopic] Line fitting [was Re: Numpy outlier removal]

2013-01-08 Thread Robert Kern
On 08/01/2013 20:14, Chris Angelico wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Robert Kern wrote: On 08/01/2013 06:35, Chris Angelico wrote: ... it looks quite significant to show a line going from the bottom of the graph to the top, but sounds a lot less noteworthy when you see it as a half-degre

Re: How to tell how many weeks apart two datetimes are?

2013-01-08 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On 8 January 2013 22:50, MRAB wrote: > On 2013-01-08 21:22, Roy Smith wrote: >> >> How do you tell how many weeks apart two datetimes (t1 and t2) are? >> The "obvious" solution would be: >> >> weeks = (t2 - t1) / timedelta(days=7) >> >> but that doesn't appear to be allowed. Is there some fundame

Re: How to tell how many weeks apart two datetimes are?

2013-01-08 Thread MRAB
On 2013-01-08 21:22, Roy Smith wrote: How do you tell how many weeks apart two datetimes (t1 and t2) are? The "obvious" solution would be: weeks = (t2 - t1) / timedelta(days=7) but that doesn't appear to be allowed. Is there some fundamental reason why timedelta division not supported? Try t

Re: How to tell how many weeks apart two datetimes are?

2013-01-08 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Roy Smith wrote: >> How do you tell how many weeks apart two datetimes (t1 and t2) are? >> The "obvious" solution would be: >> >> weeks = (t2 - t1) / timedelta(days=7) >> >> but that doesn't appear to be allowed.

Re: How to tell how many weeks apart two datetimes are?

2013-01-08 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Roy Smith wrote: > How do you tell how many weeks apart two datetimes (t1 and t2) are? > The "obvious" solution would be: > > weeks = (t2 - t1) / timedelta(days=7) > > but that doesn't appear to be allowed. Is there some fundamental > reason why timedelta division

Re: How to tell how many weeks apart two datetimes are?

2013-01-08 Thread marduk
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013, at 04:22 PM, Roy Smith wrote: > How do you tell how many weeks apart two datetimes (t1 and t2) are? > The "obvious" solution would be: > > weeks = (t2 - t1) / timedelta(days=7) > > but that doesn't appear to be allowed. Is there some fundamental > reason why timedelta divi

How to tell how many weeks apart two datetimes are?

2013-01-08 Thread Roy Smith
How do you tell how many weeks apart two datetimes (t1 and t2) are? The "obvious" solution would be: weeks = (t2 - t1) / timedelta(days=7) but that doesn't appear to be allowed. Is there some fundamental reason why timedelta division not supported? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyt

New version of PyGreSQL 4.1.1 - bug fixes

2013-01-08 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
- Release of PyGreSQL version 4.1.1 - A few problems showed up with the 4.1 release so we are releasing a quick bugfix version. It is available at: http://pygresql.org/files/PyGreSQL-4.1.1.tgz. If you are running NetBSD, look in the

Re: [Offtopic] Line fitting [was Re: Numpy outlier removal]

2013-01-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Robert Kern wrote: > On 08/01/2013 06:35, Chris Angelico wrote: >> ... it looks >> quite significant to show a line going from the bottom of the graph to >> the top, but sounds a lot less noteworthy when you see it as a >> half-degree increase on about (I think?) 30

Re: ANNOUNCE: Thesaurus - a recursive dictionary subclass using attributes

2013-01-08 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Neal Becker wrote: > Did you intend to give anyone permission to use the code? I see only a > copyright notice, but no permissions. It also says "Licence: python, Copyright notice may not be altered." Which suggests to me that the intent is that it be licensed u

Re: License status of pycollada?

2013-01-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 08 January 2013 14:09:55 Jeff Terrace did opine: Message additions Copyright Tuesday 08 January 2013 by Gene Heskett > Hi Gene, > > I'm the maintainer of pycollada. No such paywall exists, and a login is > not required. I'm not sure how you came across that. > Google search. > As Chr

Re: Searching through two logfiles in parallel?

2013-01-08 Thread darnold
i don't think in iterators (yet), so this is a bit wordy. same basic idea, though: for each message (set of parameters), build a list of transactions consisting of matching send/receive times. mildly tested: from datetime import datetime, timedelta sendData = '''\ 05:00:06 Message sent - Va

Re: ANNOUNCE: Thesaurus - a recursive dictionary subclass using attributes

2013-01-08 Thread Neal Becker
Did you intend to give anyone permission to use the code? I see only a copyright notice, but no permissions. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: License status of pycollada?

2013-01-08 Thread Jeff Terrace
Hi Gene, I'm the maintainer of pycollada. No such paywall exists, and a login is not required. I'm not sure how you came across that. As Chris said, it's a standard BSD license. I'd be happy to help with packaging, so feel free to contact me. Jeff -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyth

ANNOUNCE: Thesaurus - a recursive dictionary subclass using attributes

2013-01-08 Thread Dave Cinege
Thesaurus: A different way to call a dictionary. Thesaurus is a new a dictionary subclass which allows calling keys as if they are class attributes and will search through nested objects recursively when __getitem__ is called. You will notice that the code is disgusting simple. However I have fou

Re: [Offtopic] Line fitting [was Re: Numpy outlier removal]

2013-01-08 Thread Maarten
On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 10:07:08 AM UTC+1, Terry Reedy wrote: > With the line constrained to go through 0,0, a line eyeballed with a > clear ruler could easily be better than either regression line, as a > human will tend to minimize the deviations *perpendicular to the line*, > which is t

Re: Calculate Big Number

2013-01-08 Thread casevh
On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 2:06:09 AM UTC-8, Gisle Vanem wrote: > "Steven D'Aprano" wrote: > > > py> from timeit import Timer > > py> t1 = Timer("(a**b)*(c**d)", setup="a,b,c,d = 10, 25, 2, 50") > > py> min(t1.repeat(repeat=5, number=10)) > > 0.5256571769714355 > > > > So that's about 5 mic

Re: How to modify this script?

2013-01-08 Thread Gertjan Klein
Thomas Rachel wrote: Am 07.01.2013 18:56 schrieb Gertjan Klein: (Watch out for line wraps! I don't know how to stop Thunderbird from inserting them.) Do "insert as quotation" (in German Thunderbird: "Als Zitat einfügen"), or Strg-Shift-O. Then it gets inserted with a ">" before and in blue.

Re: [Offtopic] Line fitting [was Re: Numpy outlier removal]

2013-01-08 Thread Robert Kern
On 08/01/2013 06:35, Chris Angelico wrote: On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: given that weather patterns have been known to follow cycles at least that long. That is not a given. "Weather patterns" don't last for thirty years. Perhaps you are talking about climate pattern

Re: How to modify this script?

2013-01-08 Thread chaouche yacine
Well tell me how do you use this script in gedit, are you using it as a plugin ? are you putting this code somewhere ? I'll try to do the same on my side and try to understand how it works. From: Kurt Hansen To: python-list@python.org Sent: Monday, Januar

Re: how to download internet files by python ?

2013-01-08 Thread MRAB
On 2013-01-08 05:00, Rodrick Brown wrote: On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:19 PM, iMath mailto:redstone-c...@163.com>> wrote: for example ,if I want to download this file ,how to implement the download functionality by python ? http://down.51voa.com/201208/se-ed-foreign-students-friends-16

Re: ANN: PyDTLS

2013-01-08 Thread Guido van Rossum
This sounds exciting. Are you considering a Python 3 port? It might make a nice demo of PEP 3156. On Monday, January 7, 2013, rbit wrote: > I would like to announce Datagram Transport Layer Security for > Python. From the top of the project README: > > PyDTLS brings Datagram Transport Layer Secur

Re: How to modify this script?

2013-01-08 Thread Thomas Rachel
Am 07.01.2013 18:56 schrieb Gertjan Klein: (Watch out for line wraps! I don't know how to stop Thunderbird from inserting them.) Do "insert as quotation" (in German Thunderbird: "Als Zitat einfügen"), or Strg-Shift-O. Then it gets inserted with a ">" before and in blue. Just remove the > an

Re: How to modify this script?

2013-01-08 Thread Thomas Rachel
Am 06.01.2013 15:30 schrieb Kurt Hansen: Den 06/01/13 15.20, Chris Angelico wrote: On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Kurt Hansen wrote: I'm sorry to bother you, Chris, but applying the snippet with your code in Gedit still just deletes the marked, tab-separated text in the editor. Ah, whoops.

Re: How to get the selected text of the webpage in chrome through python ?

2013-01-08 Thread Miki Tebeka
On Monday, January 7, 2013 8:20:28 PM UTC-8, iMath wrote: > How to get the selected text of the webpage in chrome through python ? You can probably use selenium to do that. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [Offtopic] Line fitting [was Re: Numpy outlier removal]

2013-01-08 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On 8 January 2013 01:23, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:32:54 +, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > > [...] >> I also think it would >> be highly foolish to go so far with refusing to eyeball data that you >> would accept the output of some regression algorithm even when it >> clearly lo

Re: How to get the selected text of the webpage in chrome through python ?

2013-01-08 Thread Bruno Dupuis
On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 08:20:28PM -0800, iMath wrote: > How to get the selected text of the webpage in chrome through python ? What you need is a way to get selected text from wherever it comes. The way to do this depends on your graphical environment. If you use X, i'd make a a quick and dirty c

Re: How to get the selected text of the webpage in chrome through python ?

2013-01-08 Thread Dave Angel
On 01/08/2013 07:38 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 20:20:28 -0800 (PST), iMath > declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: > >> How to get the selected text of the webpage in chrome through python ? > Chrome is a browser, is it not... If you want to get the tex

Re: what’s the difference between socket.send() and socket.sendall() ?

2013-01-08 Thread Philipp Hagemeister
socket.socket.send is a low-level method and basically just the C/syscall method send(3) / send(2). It can send less bytes than you requested. socket.socket.sendall is a high-level Python-only method that sends the entire buffer you pass or throws an exception. It does that by calling send until e

Newbe accessing MySQL, need something like perl's prepare_cached

2013-01-08 Thread Morten Guldager
'Aloha Friends! Still quite new to python I'm trying to access a MySQL database. Being a former perl programmer I recognize much of the semantics going on. Create a database handle, compile a piece of SQL and put it into a cursor, run the query and use the result. exactly the same flow as I am us

Re: How to get the selected text of the webpage in chrome through python ?

2013-01-08 Thread iMath
在 2013年1月8日星期二UTC+8下午12时20分28秒,iMath写道: > How to get the selected text of the webpage in chrome through python ? I need the code ,cuz I am only familiar with Python ,so it would be better to give me the code written in Python . You can also give me the code in other programming language ,thank

How to call ltm function using rpy package in python

2013-01-08 Thread Mohit Khanna
I am trying the following code-- from rpy import * r.library("ltm") dat= #some data frame or matrix r.ltm(r('dat~z1')) error coming is--- RPy_RException: Error in eval(expr, envir, enclos) : object 'dat' not found Please tell me the right way to call ltm function using rpy library -- http://ma

Re: Calculate Big Number

2013-01-08 Thread Gisle Vanem
"Steven D'Aprano" wrote: py> from timeit import Timer py> t1 = Timer("(a**b)*(c**d)", setup="a,b,c,d = 10, 25, 2, 50") py> min(t1.repeat(repeat=5, number=10)) 0.5256571769714355 So that's about 5 microseconds on my (slow) computer. That's pretty fast. So is there still a need for a GMP p

Re: [Offtopic] Line fitting [was Re: Numpy outlier removal]

2013-01-08 Thread Terry Reedy
On 1/7/2013 8:23 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:32:54 +, Oscar Benjamin wrote: An example: Earlier today I was looking at some experimental data. A simple model of the process underlying the experiment suggests that two variables x and y will vary in direct proportion to

Re: test failed: test_urlwithfrag

2013-01-08 Thread Terry Reedy
On 1/7/2013 1:26 PM, Elli Lola wrote: $ ./python -m test -v test_urlwithfrag == CPython 3.3.0 (default, Jan 4 2013, 23:08:00) [GCC 4.6.3] == Linux-3.2.0-35-generic-pae-i686-with-debian-wheezy-sid little-endian == /home/me/Programme/Python/Python-3.3.0/build/test_python_30744 Testing with fl

Re: Problem with Unicode char in Python 3.3.0

2013-01-08 Thread Terry Reedy
On 1/7/2013 8:12 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 1/7/2013 7:57 AM, Franck Ditter wrote: <<< print('\U0001d11e') Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in print('\U0001d11e') UnicodeEncodeError: 'UCS-2' codec can't encode character '\U0001d11e' in position 0: Non-BMP character no

Re: Vigil, the eternal morally vigilant programming language

2013-01-08 Thread Terry Reedy
On 1/7/2013 11:01 AM, Alain Ketterlin wrote: I just came across Vigil, an extension to python for serious software engineers, I hope that last part comes from a sense of humor. at https://github.com/munificent/vigil and thought everybody in this group would be interested (sorry if it has bee