Re: Some posts do not show up in Google Groups

2012-04-29 Thread Benjamin Kaplan
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Frank Millman wrote: > > Hi all > > For a while now I have been using Google Groups to read this group, but on > the odd occasion when I want to post a message, I use Outlook Express, as I > know that some people reject all messages from Google Groups due to the hi

Re: help

2012-04-29 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:43 AM, viral shah wrote: > I want to print below matrix. > > can any one suggest me the method for the same > > 1 2   3 > 4 5   6 > 7 8   9 > In general, for homework questions, you should present your attempt at a solutio

Some posts do not show up in Google Groups

2012-04-29 Thread Frank Millman
Hi all For a while now I have been using Google Groups to read this group, but on the odd occasion when I want to post a message, I use Outlook Express, as I know that some people reject all messages from Google Groups due to the high spam ratio (which seems to have improved recently, BTW). >F

help

2012-04-29 Thread viral shah
I want to print below matrix. can any one suggest me the method for the same 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Thanks -- Viral Shah IT Department, E-mail : shahviral...@gmail.com Mobile : (+91) 9722312220 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-

Re: Learn Technical Writing from Unix Man in 10 Days

2012-04-29 Thread Temia Eszteri
>On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Xah Lee wrote: >> jason, are you trolling me, or me you? > >Am I Turing dreaming I am a machine, or a machine dreaming I am Turing? > >Personally, I've never Turred. > >ChrisA Turing got a pretty shit deal for all the great things he did - odds are a machine woul

RE: Learn Technical Writing from Unix Man in 10 Days

2012-04-29 Thread Neru Yume
I did not sign up for this. ;_; -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Learn Technical Writing from Unix Man in 10 Days

2012-04-29 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Xah Lee wrote: > jason, are you trolling me, or me you? Am I Turing dreaming I am a machine, or a machine dreaming I am Turing? Personally, I've never Turred. ChrisA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Learn Technical Writing from Unix Man in 10 Days

2012-04-29 Thread Temia Eszteri
>jason, are you trolling me, or me you? > >? > > Xah Depends on what you classify as "trolling" these days. In all honesty, the original concept of trolling seems to have become a lost art, with only a few people even knowing what the act actually was anymore, and in its absence everyone seems to

Re: Learn Technical Writing from Unix Man in 10 Days

2012-04-29 Thread Xah Lee
On Apr 29, 7:43 pm, Jason Earl wrote: > On Sat, Apr 28 2012, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:55:42 -0700, Xah Lee wrote: > > >> Learn Technical Writing from Unix Man in 10 Days > > >> Quote from man apt-get: > > >>     remove > >>         remove is identical to install except tha

Re: Learn Technical Writing from Unix Man in 10 Days

2012-04-29 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Jason Earl wrote: > It is considerably worse than that.  If you look at what the > documentation for apt-get actually says, instead of just the badly > mangled version that Xah shares you would realize that the post was > basically a bald-face troll. Not only tha

Re: syntax for code blocks

2012-04-29 Thread Ben Finney
Peter Pearson writes: > On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:24:35 +0200, Kiuhnm wrote: > > I'd like to change the syntax of my module 'codeblocks' to make it > > more pythonic. The “chained callable” style isn't very Pythonic, IMO. Even worse is the penchant for ‘foo .bar()’, the space obscures the fact th

Re: syntax for code blocks

2012-04-29 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
29.04.12 19:05, Peter Pearson написав(ла): Hey, guys, am I the only one here who can't even guess what this code does? When did Python become so obscure? This isn't Python at all. It's Ruby. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Learn Technical Writing from Unix Man in 10 Days

2012-04-29 Thread Jason Earl
On Sat, Apr 28 2012, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:55:42 -0700, Xah Lee wrote: > >> Learn Technical Writing from Unix Man in 10 Days >> >> Quote from man apt-get: >> >> remove >> remove is identical to install except that packages are >> removed >> instead o

Re: numpy (matrix solver) - python vs. matlab

2012-04-29 Thread Nasser M. Abbasi
On 04/29/2012 07:17 PM, someone wrote: Ok. When do you define it to be singular, btw? There are things you can see right away about a matrix A being singular without doing any computation. By just looking at it. For example, If you see a column (or row) being a linear combination of other

Re: numpy (matrix solver) - python vs. matlab

2012-04-29 Thread Nasser M. Abbasi
On 04/29/2012 07:59 PM, someone wrote: Also, as was said, do not use INV(A) directly to solve equations. In Matlab I used x=A\b. good. I used inv(A) in python. Should I use some kind of pseudo-inverse or what do you suggest? I do not use python much myself, but a quick google showed

Re: numpy (matrix solver) - python vs. matlab

2012-04-29 Thread someone
On 04/30/2012 02:38 AM, Nasser M. Abbasi wrote: On 04/29/2012 05:17 PM, someone wrote: I would also kindly ask about how to avoid this problem in the future, I mean, this maybe means that I have to check the condition number at all times before doing anything at all ? How to do that? I hope

Re: numpy (matrix solver) - python vs. matlab

2012-04-29 Thread Paul Rubin
someone writes: >> A is not just close to singular: it's singular! > Ok. When do you define it to be singular, btw? Singular means the determinant is zero, i.e. the rows or columns are not linearly independent. Let's give names to the three rows: a = [1 2 3]; b = [11 12 13]; c = [21 22 23].

Re: numpy (matrix solver) - python vs. matlab

2012-04-29 Thread Nasser M. Abbasi
On 04/29/2012 05:17 PM, someone wrote: I would also kindly ask about how to avoid this problem in the future, I mean, this maybe means that I have to check the condition number at all times before doing anything at all ? How to do that? I hope you'll check the condition number all the time.

Re: numpy (matrix solver) - python vs. matlab

2012-04-29 Thread someone
On 04/30/2012 12:39 AM, Kiuhnm wrote: So Matlab at least warns about "Matrix is close to singular or badly scaled", which python (and I guess most other languages) does not... A is not just close to singular: it's singular! Ok. When do you define it to be singular, btw? Which is the most a

Re: Communication between C++ server and Python app

2012-04-29 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 29Apr2012 21:08, Chris Angelico wrote: | On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: | > On 29Apr2012 11:42, Chris Angelico wrote: | > | Personally, I would recommend a TCP socket, because that allows the | > | flexibility of splitting across multiple computers. | > | > And the pa

Re: numpy (matrix solver) - python vs. matlab

2012-04-29 Thread Kiuhnm
On 4/30/2012 0:17, someone wrote: Hi, Notice cross-post, I hope you bear over with me for doing that (and I imagine that some of you also like python in the matlab-group like myself)... -- Python vs. Matlab: -- Pyt

numpy (matrix solver) - python vs. matlab

2012-04-29 Thread someone
Hi, Notice cross-post, I hope you bear over with me for doing that (and I imagine that some of you also like python in the matlab-group like myself)... -- Python vs. Matlab: -- Python: from numpy import

Re: why () is () and [] is [] work in other way?

2012-04-29 Thread John Nagle
On 4/28/2012 4:47 AM, Kiuhnm wrote: On 4/27/2012 17:39, Adam Skutt wrote: On Apr 27, 8:07 am, Kiuhnm wrote: Useful... maybe, conceptually sound... no. Conceptually, NaN is the class of all elements which are not numbers, therefore NaN = NaN. NaN isn't really the class of all elements which ar

Re: Communication between C++ server and Python app

2012-04-29 Thread Marcin Maksymiuk
Failr point - I should do that in original question. The C++ server runs on Unix (Mac OS X as a matter of fact) and, as I'm the one who develops it, can use whthever technology is suitable. Currently it uses STL, Boost and Qt libraries. The server is responsible for providing connectivity to s

Re: CPython thread starvation

2012-04-29 Thread Roy Smith
In article <7xipgj8vxh@ruckus.brouhaha.com>, Paul Rubin wrote: > Roy Smith writes: > > I agree that application-level name cacheing is "wrong", but sometimes > > doing it the wrong way just makes sense. I could whip up a simple > > cacheing wrapper around getaddrinfo() in 5 minutes. Dep

Re: convert integer to string

2012-04-29 Thread Chris Rebert
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Andres Soto wrote: > I have already import string from string import * > but I can not still convert an integer to string There is no need to import the `string` module to do that. Most of the `string` module is deprecated. `str` is the *built-in* type

Re: convert integer to string

2012-04-29 Thread MRAB
On 29/04/2012 18:18, Andres Soto wrote: I have already >> import string >> from string import * but I can not still convert an integer to string >> str(42) Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in str(42) TypeError: 'module' object is not callable >> What is it wrong? At so

Re: CPython thread starvation

2012-04-29 Thread John Nagle
On 4/28/2012 1:04 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: Roy Smith writes: I agree that application-level name cacheing is "wrong", but sometimes doing it the wrong way just makes sense. I could whip up a simple cacheing wrapper around getaddrinfo() in 5 minutes. Depending on the environment (both technology

Re: algorithm does python use to compare two strings

2012-04-29 Thread Robert Kern
On 4/29/12 5:34 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 4/29/2012 6:05 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 4/29/2012 3:59 AM, J. Mwebaze wrote: I am just wondering which specific algorithm does python use to compare two strings. 'Python' does not use algorithms, implementations do. CPython may check id and or hash b

convert integer to string

2012-04-29 Thread Andres Soto
I have already >>> import string >>> from string import * but I can not still convert an integer to string >>> str(42) Traceback (most recent call last):   File "", line 1, in     str(42) TypeError: 'module' object is not callable >>>  What is it wrong? Thank you   Prof. Dr. Andrés Soto DES DACI

Re: Python interface of Stanford Parser

2012-04-29 Thread ac27037
Dear Stefan, Because I am a very new beginner of python, even I don't know how to install the package. I just copied the whole directory to the Lib dictionary. I need steps to follow. Could you please help me? My system is Windows xp, thank you! Sincerely, Vinco -- View this message in context:

Re: algorithm does python use to compare two strings

2012-04-29 Thread Terry Reedy
On 4/29/2012 6:05 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 4/29/2012 3:59 AM, J. Mwebaze wrote: I am just wondering which specific algorithm does python use to compare two strings. 'Python' does not use algorithms, implementations do. CPython may check id and or hash before doing a character-by-char comparis

Re: syntax for code blocks

2012-04-29 Thread Temia Eszteri
>> Current Syntax: >> >> with res << func(arg1) << 'x, y': >> print(x, y) >> >> with res << func(arg1) << block_name << 'x, y': >> print(x, y) >> >> New Syntax: >> >> with res == func(arg1) .taking_block (x, y): >> print(x, y) >> >> with res == func(ar

Re: syntax for code blocks

2012-04-29 Thread Peter Pearson
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:24:35 +0200, Kiuhnm wrote: > I'd like to change the syntax of my module 'codeblocks' to make it more > pythonic. > > Current Syntax: > > with res << func(arg1) << 'x, y': > print(x, y) > > with res << func(arg1) << block_name << 'x, y': > print(x

Re: Help with how to combine two csv files

2012-04-29 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: >        What do you want done if one file has fewer records than the other? The OP did state that the files had the same number of rows. I'd say this issue is outside the scope of the question. ChrisA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/l

Help with how to combine two csv files

2012-04-29 Thread Sammy Danso
Hello Experts, I am new to python and I have been trying to merge two csv files, and upon several hours of unsuccessful attempts, I have decided to seek for help.   the format of the file is as follows. file A has  columns a, b, c and values 1,2,3 for several rows. File B also has columns d,

Re: Learn Technical Writing from Unix Man in 10 Days

2012-04-29 Thread Kiuhnm
On 4/28/2012 23:55, Xah Lee wrote: Learn Technical Writing from Unix Man in 10 Days Quote from man apt-get: remove remove is identical to install except that packages are removed instead of installed. Translation: kicking kicking is identical to kissing ex

Re: why () is () and [] is [] work in other way?

2012-04-29 Thread Kiuhnm
On 4/28/2012 16:18, Adam Skutt wrote: On Apr 28, 7:26 am, Kiuhnm wrote: On 4/27/2012 19:15, Adam Skutt wrote: On Apr 27, 11:01 am, Kiuhnmwrote: The abstraction is this: - There are primitives and objects. - Primitives are not objects. The converse is also true. - Primitives can become obj

Re: Communication between C++ server and Python app

2012-04-29 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 29Apr2012 11:42, Chris Angelico wrote: > | Personally, I would recommend a TCP socket, because that allows the > | flexibility of splitting across multiple computers. > > And the pain of ensuring security, if you're in an open network.

Re: Communication between C++ server and Python app

2012-04-29 Thread Tamer Higazi
Take the twisted library. I used to write myself a socket server and client. Socket is fast, but you need on the other hand to know how big the dataset might be, that will be serialized and deserialized as well. Tamer Am 29.04.2012 08:24, schrieb Cameron Simpson: > On 29Apr2012 11:42, Chris An

Re: confusing doc: mutable and hashable

2012-04-29 Thread Terry Reedy
On 4/29/2012 3:57 AM, John O'Hagan wrote: How do function objects fit into this scheme? They have __hash__, __eq__, seem to work as dict keys and are mutable. Is it because their hash value doesn't change? I suspect functions use the default equality and hash based on id, which does not chang

Re: algorithm does python use to compare two strings

2012-04-29 Thread Terry Reedy
On 4/29/2012 3:59 AM, J. Mwebaze wrote: I am just wondering which specific algorithm does python use to compare two strings. 'Python' does not use algorithms, implementations do. CPython may check id and or hash before doing a character-by-char comparison (or perhaps multiple chars at a time)

Minor issue with sqlite3 and datetime

2012-04-29 Thread Frank Millman
Hi all I could not find a mailing list for sqlite3 - hope it is ok to post here. My problem actually originates with a different problem relating to MS Sql Server. Python's datetime.datetime object uses a precision of microseconds. Sql Server's DATETIME type only uses a precision of millisecond

Re: Learn Technical Writing from Unix Man in 10 Days

2012-04-29 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Xah. In comp.emacs Xah Lee wrote: > Learn Technical Writing from Unix Man in 10 Days > Quote from man apt-get: >remove >remove is identical to install except that packages are > removed >instead of installed. > Translation: >kicking >kicking is identical

algorithm does python use to compare two strings

2012-04-29 Thread J. Mwebaze
I am just wondering which specific algorithm does python use to compare two strings. Could it be the Longest common subsequence is the most u Regards -- *Mob UG: +256 (0) 70 1735800 | NL +31 (0) 6 852 841 38 | Gtalk: jmwebaze | skype: mwebazej | URL: www.astro.rug.nl/~jmwebaze /* Life runs on

Re: confusing doc: mutable and hashable

2012-04-29 Thread John O'Hagan
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 11:35:12 -0700 Chris Rebert wrote: [...] > Correct. Pedantically, you can define __hash__() on mutable objects; > it's just not very useful or sensible, so people generally don't. As > http://docs.python.org/reference/datamodel.html#object.__hash__ states > [emphasis added]: >

Re: Learn Technical Writing from Unix Man in 10 Days

2012-04-29 Thread John O'Hagan
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Xah Lee wrote: > Learn Technical Writing from Unix Man in 10 Days > > Quote from man apt-get: > > remove > remove is identical to install except that packages are > removed > instead of installed. > > Translation: > > kicking >