Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-26 Thread Mithrandir
On 07/18/2010 03:58 PM, Edward A. Falk wrote: In article<334170d5-a336-4506-bda1-279b40908...@k1g2000prl.googlegroups.com>, be.krul wrote: why is this group being spammed? They're *all* being spammed. Why? Because they can, and because Google doesn't care. Not only does Google not care,

Personal archive tool, looking for suggestions on improving the code

2010-07-26 Thread mo reina
0 down vote favorite i've written a tool in python where you enter a title, content, then tags, and the entry is then saved in a pickle file. it was mainly designed for copy-paste functionality (you spot a piece of code you like on the net, copy it, and paste it into the program), not really f

Re: Why are String Formatted Queries Considered So Magical?

2010-07-26 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: How to capture all the environment variables from shell?

2010-07-26 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:26:27 -0400, Steven W. Orr wrote: > Please! Never export anything from your .bashrc unless you really know > what you're doing. Almost all exports should be done in your > .bash_profile Would you like to explain why, or should we just trust you? -- Steven -- http://mail

Re: How to capture all the environment variables from shell?

2010-07-26 Thread Tim Chase
On 07/26/10 21:26, Steven W. Orr wrote: Please! Never export anything from your .bashrc unless you really know what you're doing. Almost all exports should be done in your .bash_profile Could you elaborate on your reasoning why (or why-not)? I've found that my .bash_profile doesn't get evalua

Python 2.7 for Windows: Same version of MS VC runtime as Python 2.6?

2010-07-26 Thread python
Python 2.7 for Windows: Does Python 2.7 for Windows use the same version of the MS VC runtime as Python 2.6? Thank you, Malcolm -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python styles: why Use spaces around arithmetic operators?

2010-07-26 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 7/26/10 3:20 PM, Peng Yu wrote: > This webpage http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/ recommends the > following. It looks to me that both styles are fine. Could anybody let > me know what the rationale is behind this recommendation? PEP8 is a style guide. Parts of style guides are rational j

Re: How to capture all the environment variables from shell?

2010-07-26 Thread Steven W. Orr
On 07/26/10 20:02, quoth Chris Rebert: > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Peng Yu wrote: > > You need to "export R_HOME" in bash (probably in your .bashrc or > .bash_profile). See > http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-bash.html#N10074 Please! Never export anything from your .bashrc unles

Re: python styles: why Use spaces around arithmetic operators?

2010-07-26 Thread geremy condra
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:20:09 -0500, Peng Yu wrote: > >> This webpage http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/ recommends the >> following. It looks to me that both styles are fine. Could anybody let >> me know what the rationale is behind t

Re: Builtn super() function. How to use it with multiple inheritance? And why should I use it at all?

2010-07-26 Thread Raymond Hettinger
[Ethan Furman] > Speaking of new-style classes only, don't they all end in object?  And > if the MRO is only known at run-time, how is one to know at code-time > whether your (new-style) class is at the end of the line? That is a bit of a PITA. One way of handling it is to design your diamond so

Re: python terminology on classes

2010-07-26 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 01:15:08 +0200, Thomas Jollans wrote: > http://docs.python.org/py3k/reference/datamodel.html should answer all > your questions. It should, but as far as I can tell it doesn't. If it defines "attribute" or "method", I can't find it. -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/ma

Re: How to capture all the environment variables from shell?

2010-07-26 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 26Jul2010 18:36, Peng Yu wrote: | R_HOME is set in my shell (bash). But os.environ doesn't have it. I'm | not sure what it does when os module is imported. But it seems that | os.environ doesn't capture all the environment variable from the | shell. Could anybody let me know what is the correct

Re: python terminology on classes

2010-07-26 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:52:06 -0500, Peng Yu wrote: > Could you please let me know what the equivalent terms for the following > C++ terms? > > constructor > destructor > member function > member variable > virtual member function > function (1) Python new-style classes have a constructor __new_

Re: How to capture all the environment variables from shell?

2010-07-26 Thread Rhodri James
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:36:12 +0100, Peng Yu wrote: R_HOME is set in my shell (bash). But os.environ doesn't have it. I'm not sure what it does when os module is imported. But it seems that os.environ doesn't capture all the environment variable from the shell. Could anybody let me know what is

Re: How to capture all the environment variables from shell?

2010-07-26 Thread Chris Rebert
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Peng Yu wrote: > Hi, > > R_HOME is set in my shell (bash). But os.environ doesn't have it. I'm > not sure what it does when os module is imported. But it seems that > os.environ doesn't capture all the environment variable from the > shell. Could anybody let me kno

How to capture all the environment variables from shell?

2010-07-26 Thread Peng Yu
Hi, R_HOME is set in my shell (bash). But os.environ doesn't have it. I'm not sure what it does when os module is imported. But it seems that os.environ doesn't capture all the environment variable from the shell. Could anybody let me know what is the correct way to inherent all the environment va

Re: python styles: why Use spaces around arithmetic operators?

2010-07-26 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:20:09 -0500, Peng Yu wrote: > This webpage http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/ recommends the > following. It looks to me that both styles are fine. Could anybody let > me know what the rationale is behind this recommendation? > > - Use spaces around arithmetic ope

Re: python terminology on classes

2010-07-26 Thread Tim Chase
On 07/26/10 18:15, Thomas Jollans wrote: destructor http://docs.python.org/py3k/reference/datamodel.html#object.__del__ One small caveat -- IIRC, in Java/C++ the destructor is guaranteed to be called with a certain amount of context. I find Python's __del__ almost useless since things it m

Re: python terminology on classes

2010-07-26 Thread Rhodri James
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:52:06 +0100, Peng Yu wrote: Hi I'm still kind of confused about the terminology on classes in python. Could you please let me know what the equivalent terms for the following C++ terms? Seriously, we can't keep doing your thinking for you. The answers to all your que

Re: python styles: why Use spaces around arithmetic operators?

2010-07-26 Thread rantingrick
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Re: Why are String Formatted Queries Considered So Magical?

2010-07-26 Thread Justin Smith
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Re: python styles: why Use spaces around arithmetic operators?

2010-07-26 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
On 07/27/10 00:06, rantingrick wrote: On Jul 26, 5:20 pm, Peng Yu wrote: This webpagehttp://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/recommends the following. It looks to me that both styles are fine. Could anybody let me know what the rationale is behind this recommendation? The rational is simple.

Re: python terminology on classes

2010-07-26 Thread Thomas Jollans
On 07/26/2010 11:52 PM, Peng Yu wrote: > Hi > > I'm still kind of confused about the terminology on classes in python. > > Could you please let me know what the equivalent terms for the > following C++ terms? > > constructor constructor. This consists of the class constructor method, __new__,

Re: python styles: why Use spaces around arithmetic operators?

2010-07-26 Thread rantingrick
On Jul 26, 5:20 pm, Peng Yu wrote: > This webpagehttp://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/recommends the > following. It looks to me that both styles are fine. Could anybody let > me know what the rationale is behind this recommendation? The rational is simple. Guido is God and if you don't follow

Re: python styles: why Use spaces around arithmetic operators?

2010-07-26 Thread Thomas Jollans
On 07/27/2010 12:20 AM, Peng Yu wrote: > This webpage http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/ recommends the > following. It looks to me that both styles are fine. Could anybody let > me know what the rationale is behind this recommendation? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, even when we call

Re: Updating path.py

2010-07-26 Thread Robert Kern
On 7/26/10 5:16 PM, Michael Hoffman wrote: I have been using Jason Orendorff's path.py module for a long time. It is very useful. The only problem is that Python 2.6 deprecates the md5 module it imports, so I (and others using my software) now get this warning whenever they start, which is a litt

python styles: why Use spaces around arithmetic operators?

2010-07-26 Thread Peng Yu
This webpage http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/ recommends the following. It looks to me that both styles are fine. Could anybody let me know what the rationale is behind this recommendation? - Use spaces around arithmetic operators: Yes: i = i + 1 submitted +

Updating path.py

2010-07-26 Thread Michael Hoffman
I have been using Jason Orendorff's path.py module for a long time. It is very useful. The only problem is that Python 2.6 deprecates the md5 module it imports, so I (and others using my software) now get this warning whenever they start, which is a little annoying. /homes/hoffman/arch/Linux-x

python terminology on classes

2010-07-26 Thread Peng Yu
Hi I'm still kind of confused about the terminology on classes in python. Could you please let me know what the equivalent terms for the following C++ terms? constructor destructor member function member variable virtual member function function I think that C++ "function" is equivalent to pyth

Re: Binary compatibility across Python versions?

2010-07-26 Thread Ned Deily
In article , Christian Heimes wrote: > [Philip Semanchuk wrote:] > > Specifically, I'm concerned with binaries created by SWIG for a C++ > > library that our project uses. We'd like to ship precompiled binaries > > for Linux, OS X and Windows for Python 2.5 and 2.6. I'm hoping that it > > i

Re: Accumulate function in python

2010-07-26 Thread dhruvbird
On Jul 21, 8:17 pm, John Nagle wrote: > On 7/19/2010 9:56 AM, dhruvbird wrote: > > > On Jul 19, 9:12 pm, Brian Victor  wrote: > >> dhruvbird wrote: > >> Having offered this, I don't recall ever seeing reduce used in real > >> python code, and explicit iteration is almost always preferred. > > > Ye

Re: Binary compatibility across Python versions?

2010-07-26 Thread Robert Kern
On 7/26/10 2:40 PM, MRAB wrote: Philip Semanchuk wrote: Hi all, Does Python guarantee binary compatibility across major, minor and/or micro versions? I looked through the docs and even with Google's help I wasn't able to find any official statements on this subject. Specifically, I'm concerned

Re: Binary compatibility across Python versions?

2010-07-26 Thread Christian Heimes
> Specifically, I'm concerned with binaries created by SWIG for a C++ > library that our project uses. We'd like to ship precompiled binaries > for Linux, OS X and Windows for Python 2.5 and 2.6. I'm hoping that it > is sufficient to create binaries for each Python for each platform (3 > *

Re: Binary compatibility across Python versions?

2010-07-26 Thread MRAB
Philip Semanchuk wrote: Hi all, Does Python guarantee binary compatibility across major, minor and/or micro versions? I looked through the docs and even with Google's help I wasn't able to find any official statements on this subject. Specifically, I'm concerned with binaries created by SWIG

Binary compatibility across Python versions?

2010-07-26 Thread Philip Semanchuk
Hi all, Does Python guarantee binary compatibility across major, minor and/or micro versions? I looked through the docs and even with Google's help I wasn't able to find any official statements on this subject. Specifically, I'm concerned with binaries created by SWIG for a C++ library th

Re: distutils question - building universal modules on OS X?

2010-07-26 Thread Robert Kern
On 7/26/10 1:36 PM, Louis Theran wrote: Is there a standard recipe for getting distutils to built universal .so files for modules that have C/C++ source? If your Python was built to be Universal, it will automatically use the same architecture flags to build the extension modules Universal.

distutils question - building universal modules on OS X?

2010-07-26 Thread Louis Theran
Is there a standard recipe for getting distutils to built universal .so files for modules that have C/C++ source? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What does the output of return os.lstat(logFile)[ST_CTIME] mean?

2010-07-26 Thread Thomas Jollans
On 07/26/2010 07:24 PM, alberttresens wrote: > > Hi, thanks for the reply. Alas, you didn't actually read it: > > But what i am more concerned about, as I am trying to correlate logs, is > what is the timestamp: > 1279620166 mean? > Is it seconds since the epoch or the ISO time in seconds? > >

Re: Multiple versions of Python coexisting in the same OS

2010-07-26 Thread Thomas Jollans
On 07/26/2010 06:36 AM, Edward Diener wrote: > On 7/25/2010 10:42 PM, David Robinow wrote: >> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Edward Diener >> wrote: >>> On 7/25/2010 5:57 PM, Thomas Jollans wrote: >>> So if a standard library module ( or distributed library ) executes a >>> call >>> internally

Re: What does the output of return os.lstat(logFile)[ST_CTIME] mean?

2010-07-26 Thread alberttresens
Hi, thanks for the reply. But what i am more concerned about, as I am trying to correlate logs, is what is the timestamp: 1279620166 mean? Is it seconds since the epoch or the ISO time in seconds? Any idea? Thanks a lot!! Steven D'Aprano-7 wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:54:23 -0700, alber

Re: What does the output of return os.lstat(logFile)[ST_CTIME] mean?

2010-07-26 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:54:23 -0700, alberttresens wrote: > Hi, > I am trying to get the creation time of a file to be able to correlate > it's content timestamps with other log files. In order to get the > creation time of the file one a Linux machine i used: You're out of luck. Neither Unix nor

Re: Compare two nested dictionaries

2010-07-26 Thread John Nagle
On 7/25/2010 8:03 AM, targetsmart wrote: Hi, I am trying to compare two nested dictionaries, I want to know what is the exact difference between them. d1 = {'a' : 1, 'b' : 2, 'c': 3 } d2 = {'a' : 1, 'b' : 3, 'd': 4 } diff = dict(set(d1.items()) - set(d2.items())) print (diff) {'c': 3, '

What does the output of return os.lstat(logFile)[ST_CTIME] mean?

2010-07-26 Thread alberttresens
Hi, I am trying to get the creation time of a file to be able to correlate it's content timestamps with other log files. In order to get the creation time of the file one a Linux machine i used: return os.lstat(logFile)[ST_CTIME] That returns to me something like: 1279620166 I would like to kno

Re: hasattr + __getattr__: I think this is Python bug

2010-07-26 Thread Ethan Furman
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: Duncan Booth a écrit : Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: If you don't want to create as many Whatever instances as MyClass instances, you can create a single Whatever instance before defining your class: DEFAULT_WHATEVER = Whathever() class MyClass(object): def __

Re: Builtn super() function. How to use it with multiple inheritance? And why should I use it at all?

2010-07-26 Thread Ethan Furman
Gregory Ewing wrote: Raymond Hettinger wrote: Every class in the MRO implementing the target method *must* call super() to give the next class in the MRO a chance to run. EXCEPT for the last one, which must NOT call super! The posted example happens to work because object has a default __init

Re: Download Microsoft C/C++ compiler for use with Python 2.6/2.7 ASAP

2010-07-26 Thread Robin Becker
On 26/07/2010 16:47, Burton Samograd wrote: Grant Edwards writes: On 2010-07-24, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: In message, Robert Kern wrote: There are also utilities for mounting ISOs directly without burning them to a physical disk. You need special utilities to do this?? Not if the OS

Re: Download Microsoft C/C++ compiler for use with Python 2.6/2.7 ASAP

2010-07-26 Thread Burton Samograd
Grant Edwards writes: > On 2010-07-24, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> In message , Robert Kern >> wrote: >> >>> There are also utilities for mounting ISOs directly without burning >>> them to a physical disk. >> >> You need special utilities to do this?? > > Not if the OS and VFS are competently

I GOT $2,000 FROM ' PAYPAL'

2010-07-26 Thread paypal
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Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-26 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
be.krul a écrit : Why not moderate this group? This is a hi-traffic group, so it would require a huge team of moderators. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: hasattr + __getattr__: I think this is Python bug

2010-07-26 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Duncan Booth a écrit : Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: If you don't want to create as many Whatever instances as MyClass instances, you can create a single Whatever instance before defining your class: DEFAULT_WHATEVER = Whathever() class MyClass(object): def __init__(self, x, y):

Re: Multiprocessing zombie processes

2010-07-26 Thread Michele Simionato
On Jul 25, 1:11 am, Navkirat Singh wrote: > OK I wanted zombie processes and have been able to regenerate them with > multiprocessing. Now lets see how I can handle them. The multiprocessing docs say: """ Joining zombie processes On Unix when a process finishes but has not been joined it becom

Re: ValueError: invalid literal for int():

2010-07-26 Thread lee
On Jul 26, 4:30 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 04:12:33 -0700, Chris Rebert wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:03 AM, Sunny chilgod > > wrote: > >> Hi Chris, > >> Thanks for your help. but i need to to convert the whole string to int. > >> heres my full code, > >> ptid = 'item

Re: ValueError: invalid literal for int():

2010-07-26 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 04:12:33 -0700, Chris Rebert wrote: > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:03 AM, Sunny chilgod > wrote: >> Hi Chris, >> Thanks for your help. but i need to to convert the whole string to int. >> heres my full code, >> ptid = 'item_01bom' >> so item_01bom is a field name in form, so i ge

Re: ValueError: invalid literal for int():

2010-07-26 Thread Chris Rebert
> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Chris Rebert wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:25 AM, lee wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I have a value, >> > >> > partintid = int(Screw plugg  (91_10 -> untitled)) >> > >> > but i get ValueError: invalid literal for int(): Screw plugg  (91_10 - >> >> untitled) >>

Re: ValueError: invalid literal for int():

2010-07-26 Thread Sunny chilgod
Hi Chris, Thanks for your help. but i need to to convert the whole string to int. heres my full code, ptid = 'item_01bom' so item_01bom is a field name in form, so i get its value, partintid = int(form[ptid]). # the value of form[ptid] is 'Screw plugg (91_10 - untitled)' Hence i get the error

Re: hasattr + __getattr__: I think this is Python bug

2010-07-26 Thread Duncan Booth
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > If you don't want to create as many Whatever instances as MyClass > instances, you can create a single Whatever instance before defining > your class: > > DEFAULT_WHATEVER = Whathever() > > class MyClass(object): > def __init__(self, x, y): > self.x

Re: ValueError: invalid literal for int():

2010-07-26 Thread Chris Rebert
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:25 AM, lee wrote: > Hi, > > I have a value, > > partintid = int(Screw plugg  (91_10 -> untitled)) > > but i get ValueError: invalid literal for int(): Screw plugg  (91_10 - >> untitled) > any help? That is most certainly not your actual exact code, since it has a few Syn

Re: Multiprocessing zombie processes

2010-07-26 Thread Chris Rebert
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > In message , Chris > Rebert wrote: > >> "Paging Dr. Frankenstein. Dr. Frankenstein to the lab. Paging Dr. >> Frankenstein." >> >> Most people try to /avoid/ making zombies. > > Is there some connection between Frankenstein and zombies?

Re: Multiprocessing zombie processes

2010-07-26 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message , Chris Rebert wrote: > "Paging Dr. Frankenstein. Dr. Frankenstein to the lab. Paging Dr. > Frankenstein." > > Most people try to /avoid/ making zombies. Is there some connection between Frankenstein and zombies? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

ValueError: invalid literal for int():

2010-07-26 Thread lee
Hi, I have a value, partintid = int(Screw plugg (91_10 -> untitled)) but i get ValueError: invalid literal for int(): Screw plugg (91_10 - > untitled) any help? - Sunny -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: hasattr + __getattr__: I think this is Python bug

2010-07-26 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
dmitrey a écrit : (snip) This doesn't stack with the following issue: sometimes user can write in code "myObject.size = (some integer value)" and then it will be involved in future calculations as ordinary fixed value; if user doesn't supply it, but myObject.size is involved in calculations, the

Re: non-blocking IO EAGAIN on write

2010-07-26 Thread Thomas Guettler
John Nagle wrote: > On 7/23/2010 1:45 AM, Thomas Guettler wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I use non-blocking io to check for timeouts. Sometimes I get EAGAIN >> (Resource temporarily unavailable) >> on write(). My working code looks like this. But I am unsure how many >> bytes have been written to the >> pipe

Re: Multiple versions of Python coexisting in the same OS

2010-07-26 Thread Gelonida
On 07/26/2010 06:36 AM, Edward Diener wrote: > > I start a Python script for version X by going to X's root directory and > invoking 'python someScript.py' from the command line. Does that not > sound reasonable ? Do you have an example of two (not self written) applications requiring to change t

Re: Multiple versions of Python coexisting in the same OS

2010-07-26 Thread Gelonida
On 07/25/2010 10:39 PM, MRAB wrote: > News123 wrote: >> Thus my idea of having a pystarter with a config file >> mentioning which directories (tools) should use which python executable >> > I think that's the wrong way round. A pystarter should ask the _tool_ > which version of Python it needs.

Re: Multiple versions of Python coexisting in the same OS

2010-07-26 Thread Gelonida
>> >> Thus my idea of having a pystarter with a config file >> mentioning which directories (tools) should use which python executable > > Well, good luck ! I don;t know how this is resolved for you when some > scripts executes 'python xxx yyy' or 'someScript.py yyy'. both could be resolved with